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A Davidson leader/Javid deputy could - on paper - be an appealing double act. Probably touches more bases overall than Boris. (Still worry that Javid as leader could be terminally dull....)
I’m not entirely persuaded...
I said on here the other day (to widespread mockery) that May has the chance to be remembered as a good PM if she can steer the Good Ship Britain away from the rocks in the face of the Brexiteer wreckers.
Like those other underrated PMs of modern times – Major (NI), and Brown (GFC) – you sometimes just need one key success amid an otherwise deeply mediocre tenure for history to judge you more kindly.
He really has turned 180 degrees, and is going to do Trump as much damage as he is capable of.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/752644694140719104
Theresa May will not fight the next election as PM.
Interesting article on Brexit and financial services.
https://thetradenews.com/financial-firms-searching-control-amid-brexit-chaos/
tl/dr: London will remain the European financial services Capital but will continue to lose business at the margin.
In reality this is a very good poll for May.
Great to see that the odious Boris and the risible Rees are unpopular.
Ironically, if she engineers a half-way decent Brexit outcome then people will want to be the one to replace her. The whole Party has scar-tissue from that 2017 campaign. "Never again...."
It's astonishing, but there you are. He is the most divisive and ineffectual leader of the opposition since Harcourt, so his inabaility to become PM even when he's dealt the political equivalent of five aces should come as no surprise.
"The attorney-client privilege protects most communications between clients and their lawyers. But, according to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to her attorney isn't privileged if she made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud."
That would seem to explain it.
Former Culture Secretary who had cosy little arrangements with the Murdoch press just before half of his key staff were locked up for terminally stupid and dishonest?
TBH I'm surprised he polls as well as he does.
Actually, I could make the same comment for Gove. Did they ask Richard Tyndall and Dominic Cummings multiple times?
After all they didn't take their seats in the Dail for 80 odd years until it was politically convenient...
cf. the Secretary of State for Education.
In this case, it's that whoever succeeds May has a job to do on their personal image. My guess would be that if it's someone like Gove, then his activism will overcome his time at Education (some while ago now), and his on-off Boris leadership bid, and he'll be judged on what he does. Hunt - who comes across more as a generic politician - has more of a problem IMO. Javid just needs to get known.
To me, some key questions (off the top of my head) about whether someone is likely to make a good PM are:
- When times get tough, do they hide or come out fighting?
- Can they work in a team, particularly one in which they don't have absolute discretion to hire and fire?
- Can they do detail? Media and opponents will test them.
- Can they explain detail in ways that are simple?
- Can they explain the big picture in ways that are simple?
- Do they have a human touch?
- Are they willing to take, and defend, tough decisions, or do they dither?
- Do they have an understanding of what they want to achieve for the country as PM?
I'm not going to assess all the potential candidates (or the current leaders of the various parties) against these criteria; suffice to say that the answers are not binary and selecting a leader means inevitably choosing someone who has weak spots as well as strengths.
As said above, a Labour majority of one is enough for Corbyn. Except, unless there is a major clear-out by deselection/resignation, that "Labour" win in seats disguises the reality of at least two parties in a fractious coalition.....
Hmmm. Interesting. I think an abstention is a 10-1 shot, but nevertheless very interesting.
Yorkshire lose by an innings and a lot.
A certain Mr Moeen Ali had second innings figures of 6/49 having scored 219 in Worcestershire's only innings.
I have a feeling I know who's batting number 5 for England at Southampton.
Corbyn's worse.
Coming back to an earlier question of yours, in the event that May can’t get her Withdrawal Agreement through the Commons, these are the options from most to least favourable:
1) Deal/No Deal referendum - closes down the issue, shuts up the zealots on either side and makes the public rather than the Tory Party responsible. No risk of Labour Government.
2) General Election - Brexiteer backbenchers must fall into line due to threat of Corbyn, who in turn has nowhere to hide his opportunistic Brexit stance. Labour will be split wide open on Europe and the media will give them greater scrutiny. Likelihood of a Tory victory, if narrowly.
3) Deal vs Remain - if she attempts this she will be deposed. There is no way this will happen unless Jeremy Corbyn forms a government with or without a General Election. Not sure the Tory rebels would take that chance.
On-topic: this poll is great for May.
It's DISCREET dammit.
(Corbyn was just under 9 points)
Ps I think you mean by ten points not 10%, otherwise that would be Cameron.
... I'll get my coat.
If it's Option 2, Corbyn only has to come off the fence to the extent of promising another referendum, which will put the Tories in a very difficult position - do they match that promise?
Option 3 is the only option that boxes Corbyn into a corner (he'd be forced to support it through gritted teeth, even as it destroys his strategy), could therefore get through parliament, and would be seen as the right thing to do by the country.
That's conjured a mental image I could have done without.
@EuropeElects
UK, ICM Poll:
LAB-S&D: 40%
CON-ECR: 40% (+1)
LDEM-ALDE: 7%
UKIP-EFDD: 6%
Greens-G/EFA: 2% (-1)
Field work: 17/08/18 – 19/08/18
Sample size: 2,021"
Sadly, you've now conjured that image as well...
You are relying on UK figures - and on that basis Labour's vote share in 2017 was 40% compared with 30.4% in 2015 - an increase of 9.6%.In 1997 , Labour's vote share was 43.2% compared with 34.4% in 1992.
Quelle surprise.
"Mexico: able grant asylum?" (needs a 'to' really)
"Multiple administration guilty affirmations"?
Well, there's a free pass for Putin - for anything.
Jeremy Corbyn. Unfit to be PM.
Didn't you notice?
Edit - actually it was 39.99%, which gives a rise of 9.5 against 8.8 in 1997. They seem roughly comparable to me.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oHcxlAbkTJmqfOxYQM22cvjjjRf5pETIF30x7L-qybc/edit#gid=0
Has Corbyn accepted that yet?
As I said - Corbyn is unfit to be PM. I note you don't demur.
This is of course because although he Labour vote went up substantially so did the Tory vote. Until Corbyn finds a way to get direct switchers, he can't win.
On that basis, we can assume that Corbyn is very relaxed about eveything that Donald Trump does or will do? And will never call for sanctions?
Right.
Your party is led by a laughing stock.
But that was achieved when out of UK office. His period of 'leadership', while not even an MP in 1931-2, cannot be considered to have been effective.
Quite the reverse, in fact.
Nor was he so divisive a figure.