On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with (if we're lucky!).
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
What I love about BINO is that it satisfies nobody but hardliners will prefer it to Remain and pro-EUers will prefer to the more extreme versions that have been proposed. We will be out of the EU in name , we won't have a say but key sectors of the economy will be largely unaffected.
I wonder if the Eurosceptics will still be able to bang on about Europe? Suspect it will all wear terribly thin with the general population who will regocnise we are no longer members.
As soon as the EU do something that affects us and we can not react the conflict will flare up all over again. Do not say they will be all nice and cuddly, when we were full members they tried to move Euro clearing from the UK. We would last no more than 5 years in BINO.
It takes a lot of bravery to deliberately bring a guillotine down on your head, as the Swiss discovered with their last immigration referendum. Although I agree with you that "BINO" (which is no such thing of course) will be miserable. Unfortunately there are no good Brexit outcomes, but something has to happen.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with.
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Wait until the final withdrawal agreement emerges and it will get a synchronised hammering from the ERG and Remain campaigns.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
It is not taxing out of envy, it is ensuring tax avoidance is reduced and Amazon's competitors can compete with it fairly
Even Trump tweeted "Amazon is doing great damage to tax paying retailers. Towns, cities and states throughout the U.S. are being hurt - many jobs being lost!"
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
It is not taxing out of envy, it is ensuring tax avoidance is reduced and Amazon's competitors can compete with it fairly
Even Trump tweeted "Amazon is doing great damage to tax paying retailers. Towns, cities and states throughout the U.S. are being hurt - many jobs being lost!"
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
What I love about BINO is that it satisfies nobody but hardliners will prefer it to Remain and pro-EUers will prefer to the more extreme versions that have been proposed. We will be out of the EU in name , we won't have a say but key sectors of the economy will be largely unaffected.
I wonder if the Eurosceptics will still be able to bang on about Europe? Suspect it will all wear terribly thin with the general population who will regocnise we are no longer members.
As soon as the EU do something that affects us and we can not react the conflict will flare up all over again. Do not say they will be all nice and cuddly, when we were full members they tried to move Euro clearing from the UK. We would last no more than 5 years in BINO.
It takes a lot of bravery to deliberately bring a guillotine down on your head, as the Swiss discovered with their last immigration referendum. Although I agree with you that "BINO" (which is no such thing of course) will be miserable. Unfortunately there are no good Brexit outcomes, but something has to happen.
The Swiss have just reject the latest talks with the EU to settle the immigration question, or why they will not allow EU posted workers in without Swiss checks not no EU checks.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with.
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Wait until the final withdrawal agreement emerges and it will get a synchronised hammering from the ERG and Remain campaigns.
From the ERG, absolutely it will. That's because they want No Deal. They have no reason, from their point of view, to hold back.
For the Remain or ex-Remain side, it's not quite so clear cut. Of course they will whinge that it's not as good as ignoring the referendum result totally, or ignoring it in practice by staying in an EEA-style deal, but if they vote it down, they will be siding with the ERG to push us into No Deal. Is that going to happen?
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with.
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Wait until the final withdrawal agreement emerges and it will get a synchronised hammering from the ERG and Remain campaigns.
From the ERG, absolutely it will. That's because they want No Deal. They have no reason, from their point of view, to hold back.
For the Remain or ex-Remain side, it's not quite so clear cut. Of course they will whinge that it's not as good as ignoring the referendum result totally, or ignoring it in practice by staying in an EEA-style deal, but if they vote it down, they will be siding with the ERG to push us into No Deal. Is that going to happen?
I think many cross party mps will accept the deal as anything else would cause mayhem
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with.
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Wait until the final withdrawal agreement emerges and it will get a synchronised hammering from the ERG and Remain campaigns.
From the ERG, absolutely it will. That's because they want No Deal. They have no reason, from their point of view, to hold back.
For the Remain or ex-Remain side, it's not quite so clear cut. Of course they will whinge that it's not as good as ignoring the referendum result totally, or ignoring it in practice by staying in an EEA-style deal, but if they vote it down, they will be siding with the ERG to push us into No Deal. Is that going to happen?
I think many cross party mps will accept the deal as anything else would cause mayhem
Exactly, if only by abstention.
Of course, this assumes there's a deal to vote on, which is likely but not a slam dunk.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with.
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
Wait until the final withdrawal agreement emerges and it will get a synchronised hammering from the ERG and Remain campaigns.
From the ERG, absolutely it will. That's because they want No Deal. They have no reason, from their point of view, to hold back.
For the Remain or ex-Remain side, it's not quite so clear cut. Of course they will whinge that it's not as good as ignoring the referendum result totally, or ignoring it in practice by staying in an EEA-style deal, but if they vote it down, they will be siding with the ERG to push us into No Deal. Is that going to happen?
No Deal isn’t going to happen, which is why they can trash the withdrawal agreement all they want.
I seem to recall that the last time this story came up Corbyn professed to have been no more than a witness, rather than a participant. As I may have said before, Corbyn and Trump have a lot in common.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? Wilson, Thatcher, Major and Blair (possibly not Brown though) had all achieved more significant "concessions" from Europe to Britain than Cameron did, with a lot less fanfare.
Honestly I think Remain could've squeaked out a win without the "renegotiation"; that whole charade made swing voters wrongly think "that's the best we can ever expect to gain?!"
Put it this way. Cameron's "renegotiation" would have been miles better than anything we'll get out of Brexit. Anyone who voted Leave out of contempt for that deal is sadly deluded.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
It is not taxing out of envy, it is ensuring tax avoidance is reduced and Amazon's competitors can compete with it fairly
Even Trump tweeted "Amazon is doing great damage to tax paying retailers. Towns, cities and states throughout the U.S. are being hurt - many jobs being lost!"
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with (if we're lucky!).
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
What gets my goat, but I realise it shouldn't, is that every now and again some bright spark Leaver says: "why can't we have X from them, or Y kind of relationship, or not have to do Z with the EU".
When X from them, Y relationship, and not having to do Z of course were integral parts of Dave's deal.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? Wilson, Thatcher, Major and Blair (possibly not Brown though) had all achieved more significant "concessions" from Europe to Britain than Cameron did, with a lot less fanfare.
Honestly I think Remain could've squeaked out a win without the "renegotiation"; that whole charade made swing voters wrongly think "that's the best we can ever expect to gain?!"
Put it this way. Cameron's "renegotiation" would have been miles better than anything we'll get out of Brexit. Anyone who voted Leave out of contempt for that deal is sadly deluded.
At least May's deal ends free movement, unlike Cameron's deal
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
I expect the action will be Europe wide and maybe even the US will join the crackdown given Trump hates Amazon and a Democratic congress in November is unlikely to be sympathetic to them either.
Still, whether an old story or not, it should be deeply shocking.
Before it was "attending", but clearly he's doing a bit more than that.
A bit of a fine distinction, but, hell, who cares - if it helps people who haven't yet noticed wake up to quite how vile he and his entourage are, then that's a good thing.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
I seem to recall that the last time this story came up Corbyn professed to have been no more than a witness, rather than a participant. As I may have said before, Corbyn and Trump have a lot in common.
The question is whether all this baggage, and boy, JC has a bloody cargo plane load, will make any difference on election day.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? ...
Sure, anyone who's read it.
Indeed. But dear god we've been over this before.
It gets even better in retrospect, given the alternative we're likely to end up with (if we're lucky!).
Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
What gets my goat, but I realise it shouldn't, is that every now and again some bright spark Leaver says: "why can't we have X from them, or Y kind of relationship, or not have to do Z with the EU".
When X from them, Y relationship, and not having to do Z of course were integral parts of Dave's deal.
It’s amazing how the Leave campaign managed to make people simultaneously see Dave’s deal as a personal slap in the face to them at the hands of the EU, and to blame Cameron for it. Or perhaps it’s amazing that Cameron didn’t see it coming.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? Wilson, Thatcher, Major and Blair (possibly not Brown though) had all achieved more significant "concessions" from Europe to Britain than Cameron did, with a lot less fanfare.
Honestly I think Remain could've squeaked out a win without the "renegotiation"; that whole charade made swing voters wrongly think "that's the best we can ever expect to gain?!"
Put it this way. Cameron's "renegotiation" would have been miles better than anything we'll get out of Brexit. Anyone who voted Leave out of contempt for that deal is sadly deluded.
At least May's deal ends free movement, unlike Cameron's deal
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
And those employees pay tax on the gains. 21% tax on corp profits or 20% basic rate, 40% and then 40% for higher rate. The Tax revenues are better the way Amaon do their business.
On Cameron's feeble "renegotiation", does anyone (except maybe Richard Nabavi) still think it added up to anything? Wilson, Thatcher, Major and Blair (possibly not Brown though) had all achieved more significant "concessions" from Europe to Britain than Cameron did, with a lot less fanfare.
Honestly I think Remain could've squeaked out a win without the "renegotiation"; that whole charade made swing voters wrongly think "that's the best we can ever expect to gain?!"
Put it this way. Cameron's "renegotiation" would have been miles better than anything we'll get out of Brexit. Anyone who voted Leave out of contempt for that deal is sadly deluded.
At least May's deal ends free movement, unlike Cameron's deal
Except it is as dead as a Monty Python parrot.
Far from it, as I posted earlier the EU is moving towards a deal too building on May's terms
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
And those employees pay tax on the gains. 21% tax on corp profits or 20% basic rate, 40% and then 40% for higher rate. The Tax revenues are better the way Amaon do their business.
Not when they suck the life out of retail competition
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
Why on earth would or should any company pay tax on revenues? What rate did you have in mind?
Turnover tax is in the cross hairs apparently
Surely the best way to 'level' the playing field is to allow a corporate group not to pay VAT (but still to reclaim it) on, say, the first £30,000 of revenue above the threshold. This would act as a small subsify (c. £6k per year) to little retailers (on or off line), without distorting things too much.
Brussels is reportedly set to allow the UK to stay in the single market for goods withut having free movement. This is a departure from its previous position that the four freedoms - goods, services, money and people - cannot be separated, or 'cherry picked'.
What the EU wants in return:
The bloc is insisting that Britain agreed to adopt all future EU environmental and social protections. It is trying to stop the UK breaking away and changing laws to give it a competitive edge. But agreeing to the demand would seriously undermine the UK's ability to strike free trade deals globally on things like agricultural products.'
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
I expect the action will be Europe wide and maybe even the US will join the crackdown given Trump hates Amazon and a Democratic congress in November is unlikely to be sympathetic to them either.
I’m sure they’ll try and do something, but corporate taxation is not an EU competency and Ireland won’t be co-operating. The EU can hardly restrain a company based in one member state from trading with the rest of the EU. In the US Amazon are currently inviting tenders from cities for the location of a new corporate headquarters, basically playing cities off against each other for tax breaks by promising skilled jobs and investment.
People also fail to realise that Amazon’s core online shopping business genuinely makes almost no profit. They’re working on the tiniest of margins and massive economies of scale.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
If it is that easy, and it would be popular, why hasn't it been done before? I smell a complication somewhere.
It is only recently Amazon has got so dominant while using tax loopholes to reduce its bill.
Amazon is now second only to Apple in Wall Street stock market value and just ahead of Alphabet (Google's owner)
If it makes no profit because it is investing in its business the Government gets the tax from the extra employment and profits form the companies that Amazon contract to do the work.
Brussels is reportedly set to allow the UK to stay in the single market for goods withut having free movement. This is a departure from its previous position that the four freedoms - goods, services, money and people - cannot be separated, or 'cherry picked'.
What the EU wants in return:
The bloc is insisting that Britain agreed to adopt all future EU environmental and social protections. It is trying to stop the UK breaking away and changing laws to give it a competitive edge. But agreeing to the demand would seriously undermine the UK's ability to strike free trade deals globally on things like agricultural products.'
Surely the best way to 'level' the playing field is to allow a corporate group not to pay VAT (but still to reclaim it) on, say, the first £30,000 of revenue above the threshold. This would act as a small subsify (c. £6k per year) to little retailers (on or off line), without distorting things too much.
That's a good idea, although it still leaves the problem of larger High St shops being unfairly hit compared with on-line retailers. Business rates are a real killer - the effective percentage tax rate is extremely high, and it's disproportionately piled on to a narrow tax base. And the exemptions are quite arbitrary - my own nicely profitable company pays nothing, but a tiny retailer would pay the full whack if it had the temerity to operate out of two separate premises. How does that make sense? This is one thing that Osborne got wrong.
JRM front page of the online Telegraph supporting Boris leadership. Looks like it maybe game on.
That’s more likely to lose JRM support than it is to shore up Boris.
They’ve got one shot at unseating Mrs May on a VoNC, and they need at least 100 MPs behind them to do it. I’m not sure they have the numbers, they’d be better waiting until it’s absolutely clear the Chequers deal is dead without significant concession. Mrs May, for her part, should make it abundantly clear to the EU side that if they can’t agree the Chequers deal then she’ll be replaced by someone who will move straight to No Deal.
Brussels is reportedly set to allow the UK to stay in the single market for goods withut having free movement. This is a departure from its previous position that the four freedoms - goods, services, money and people - cannot be separated, or 'cherry picked'.
What the EU wants in return:
The bloc is insisting that Britain agreed to adopt all future EU environmental and social protections. It is trying to stop the UK breaking away and changing laws to give it a competitive edge. But agreeing to the demand would seriously undermine the UK's ability to strike free trade deals globally on things like agricultural products.'
JRM front page of the online Telegraph supporting Boris leadership. Looks like it maybe game on.
That’s more likely to lose JRM support than it is to shore up Boris.
They’ve got one shot at unseating Mrs May on a VoNC, and they need at least 100 MPs behind them to do it. I’m not sure they have the numbers, they’d be better waiting until it’s absolutely clear the Chequers deal is dead without significant concession. Mrs May, for her part, should make it abundantly clear to the EU side that if they can’t agree the Chequers deal then she’ll be replaced by someone who will move straight to No Deal.
Yes, but the game on bit, presumably, is Mogg isn't running. Maybe Bozza has offered him Chief Censor of the Plays or something.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
That’s a good point about “experiences”. In my part of the world, and yours, the massive “destination” malls where you can spend the whole day couldn’t be busier, while the smaller and midsize malls are struggling - especially when they lose an anchor tenant.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
JRM front page of the online Telegraph supporting Boris leadership. Looks like it maybe game on.
That’s more likely to lose JRM support than it is to shore up Boris.
They’ve got one shot at unseating Mrs May on a VoNC, and they need at least 100 MPs behind them to do it. I’m not sure they have the numbers, they’d be better waiting until it’s absolutely clear the Chequers deal is dead without significant concession. Mrs May, for her part, should make it abundantly clear to the EU side that if they can’t agree the Chequers deal then she’ll be replaced by someone who will move straight to No Deal.
Yes, but the game on bit, presumably, is Mogg isn't running. Maybe Bozza has offered him Chief Censor of the Plays or something.
JRM knows he can’t go in as PM without extensive ministerial experience, he’s definitely not standing while his party are in government. I think the events of this week have also put a serious dent in Boris’ support in general among the MPs, managing to create a huge row that kept Jeremy and his racist “friends” off the front pages at the point where the story was getting serious for the LotO.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
That’s a good point about “experiences”. In my part of the world, and yours, the massive “destination” malls where you can spend the whole day couldn’t be busier, while the smaller and midsize malls are struggling - especially when they lose an anchor tenant.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
If you have a decent butcher and baker as we still do the High Street is still worth going to and not just to get your hair cut or get a coffee
What I love about BINO is that it satisfies nobody but hardliners will prefer it to Remain and pro-EUers will prefer to the more extreme versions that have been proposed. We will be out of the EU in name , we won't have a say but key sectors of the economy will be largely unaffected.
And let no one dare whisper: "was it worth it?"
I wanted the UK outside the political structures of the EU. As we all know, as God-Emperor and Dictator for Life of Great Britain, what I want is what I should get. Minion #1 (aka Mrs May) is progressing my demands in a satisfactory fashion. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
That’s a good point about “experiences”. In my part of the world, and yours, the massive “destination” malls where you can spend the whole day couldn’t be busier, while the smaller and midsize malls are struggling - especially when they lose an anchor tenant.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
If you have a decent butcher and baker as we still do the High Street is still worth going to and not just to get your hair cut or get a coffee
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
That’s a good point about “experiences”. In my part of the world, and yours, the massive “destination” malls where you can spend the whole day couldn’t be busier, while the smaller and midsize malls are struggling - especially when they lose an anchor tenant.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
If you have a decent butcher and baker as we still do the High Street is still worth going to and not just to get your hair cut or get a coffee
And candlestick maker, right?
With the abundance of candles seen in most post apocalyptic fiction I assume candle makers are booming at all times, so I assume all high streets have them.
What I love about BINO is that it satisfies nobody but hardliners will prefer it to Remain and pro-EUers will prefer to the more extreme versions that have been proposed. We will be out of the EU in name , we won't have a say but key sectors of the economy will be largely unaffected.
And let no one dare whisper: "was it worth it?"
I wanted the UK outside the political structures of the EU. As we all know, as God-Emperor and Dictator for Life of Great Britain, what I want is what I should get. Minion #1 (aka Mrs May) is progressing my demands in a satisfactory fashion. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Not inconvenient to me or you.
Perhaps moreso to those not as comfortable as we are.
JRM front page of the online Telegraph supporting Boris leadership. Looks like it maybe game on.
Entirely unsurprising move from JRM there. How does he explain not moving earlier so Boris has time to actually, you know, do something?
Even less surprising from the Telegraph which has been defending Boris all week. I'm not sure I'd read into the piece that JRM will necessarily support Boris for the leadership when the time comes, which so far it seems not to have done.
Hammond eyes an 'Amazon tax' is really the big story there in policy terms.
That would likely be very popular too as well as giving Amazon's rivals more of a chance to compete it would also ensure Amazon is paying its fair share in tax to the Treasury.
When are we going to be free of these socialists that want to tax business that is successful,
Having identified the problem, a Conservative Chancellor would take a look at high street business rates and see what could be done to make in-person retail more competitive with online retail.
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
Here's the thing: there are two forms of shopping
- as experience - as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
That’s a good point about “experiences”. In my part of the world, and yours, the massive “destination” malls where you can spend the whole day couldn’t be busier, while the smaller and midsize malls are struggling - especially when they lose an anchor tenant.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
The best high street situation I've seen was in Witney (when I was there for the by-election). Lots of old-fashioned shops full of customers.
All good points in the header, and it applies to referenda too. People who had no strong views on Brexit were asked to give an opinion, so they gave one, without feeling that interested, and are in many cases rather appalled at the way the issue has dragged on, as well as concerned (not yet horrified, because they're not sure the alarms are justified) that it's proving so difficult.
Brussels is reportedly set to allow the UK to stay in the single market for goods withut having free movement. This is a departure from its previous position that the four freedoms - goods, services, money and people - cannot be separated, or 'cherry picked'.
What the EU wants in return:
The bloc is insisting that Britain agreed to adopt all future EU environmental and social protections. It is trying to stop the UK breaking away and changing laws to give it a competitive edge. But agreeing to the demand would seriously undermine the UK's ability to strike free trade deals globally on things like agricultural products.'
Her successor would walk away from it though. Our relationship with Brussels will be an ongoing shitfest.
Interesting idea. Gove has said repeatedly that British agriculture will not weaken social or environmental standards for agricultural products, so he might go along with that. I'm not aware of any British politician in any party who has actually said they disagree with that (the NFU agrees too).
Reading them up, the moderates seem to be broadly Cameron Conservatives and the Centre party a bit like the Cleggite/Orange book Lib Dems. Edit: Blimey the 'Liberals' are close to that space as well. You can see why the leader of the moderates has a good shot at being PM whilst they're outsiders for Most seats.
That's right re the Moderates. The Centre Party is liberal but more rural/agrarian than the LibDems. The Liberals are a bit like the German liberals, quite pro-business wile socially liberal. They're all more or less signed up to the Swedish welfare model.
At first glance it appears to be an open-ended bet that Trump will or will not one day win the Nobel Peace Prize, but reading the rules for the bet it relates ONLY to 2018, the decision on which is made by Norwegian MPs next month. The probability that they will award it to Trump next month is, I suggest, precisely zero.
Only a few pounds to win (I've mopped up some of the better odds), but still a 3% return in a onth.
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Mind you, I have to take my hat off to Steve Baker and his fellow plotters. The synchronised trashing of the deal, as laid out in detail in All Out War, was a masterpiece of cynical manipulation. The substance of the deal was of course completely irrelevant, they had their trashing already organised
For the Remain or ex-Remain side, it's not quite so clear cut. Of course they will whinge that it's not as good as ignoring the referendum result totally, or ignoring it in practice by staying in an EEA-style deal, but if they vote it down, they will be siding with the ERG to push us into No Deal. Is that going to happen?
Edit: and of course we already have a turnover tax - VAT.
Of course, this assumes there's a deal to vote on, which is likely but not a slam dunk.
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1028027473798328320
Whatever Hammond decides to do, the most likely immediate action from Amazon will be to relocate warehouses to Ireland with the loss of many jobs and possibly a pile of VAT too.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/28/jeremy-corbyn-criticised-labour-election-candidates-wreath-laying/
Still, whether an old story or not, it should be deeply shocking.
https://news.sky.com/story/amazon-slashes-tax-bill-while-nearly-doubling-operating-profits-11458808
When X from them, Y relationship, and not having to do Z of course were integral parts of Dave's deal.
Looks like it maybe game on.
https://news.sky.com/story/amazon-slashes-tax-bill-while-nearly-doubling-operating-profits-11458808
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6042765/EU-offer-UK-stay-single-market-goods-without-free-movement.html
Her successor would walk away from it though. Our relationship with Brussels will be an ongoing shitfest.
- as experience
- as convenience
Amazon/Ocado/etc *own* as convenience.
So you either need to be an experience (like Westfield) or you will be crushed.
People also fail to realise that Amazon’s core online shopping business genuinely makes almost no profit. They’re working on the tiniest of margins and massive economies of scale.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBCSwithOff?src=hash
Madness.
They’ve got one shot at unseating Mrs May on a VoNC, and they need at least 100 MPs behind them to do it. I’m not sure they have the numbers, they’d be better waiting until it’s absolutely clear the Chequers deal is dead without significant concession. Mrs May, for her part, should make it abundantly clear to the EU side that if they can’t agree the Chequers deal then she’ll be replaced by someone who will move straight to No Deal.
The High Street experience in the UK is generally crap, whether it’s transport, parking, the vagaries of the weather as well as the higher prices and the store closures.
Perhaps moreso to those not as comfortable as we are.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.144636829
At first glance it appears to be an open-ended bet that Trump will or will not one day win the Nobel Peace Prize, but reading the rules for the bet it relates ONLY to 2018, the decision on which is made by Norwegian MPs next month. The probability that they will award it to Trump next month is, I suggest, precisely zero.
Only a few pounds to win (I've mopped up some of the better odds), but still a 3% return in a onth.