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  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,949
    edited July 2018
    Watching Theresa May's car crash interview on Marr.

    Dear oh dear oh dear....
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    WTF.....

    Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue a 'pedo' in baseless attack

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

    He's not tweeted for a few hours...
    OK - He's deleted his tweets now.
    You'd think that Musk'd know that t'Internet never forgets. :)

    In all seriousness, he should do more than just delete them. At the very least an apology, and a sizeable sum to rescue charities that actually know what they're doing might be in order ...
    https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1018543174820794370
    One tweet and one screenshot is all it takes. :wink:
  • archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612

    GIN1138 said:
    I announced a vision.

    It wasn’t a policy.


    Boris, in a nutshell.
    You missed the point entirely. He was saying that he had vision, but that May (who sets policy) couldn't follow it.

    The only point of this article was to make sure people remembered Boris is still around while he works on his resignation speech.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Pulpstar said:

    GIN1138 said:
    Some 'rallying call', it's behind a blimmin' paywall.
    He writes of Liam Fox and his team helping to sell boomerangs to Australia. :bawling:
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469
    O/T McVey is in too much trouble. Telling porkies in the House is decidedly naughty. Doing it once, twice, possibly could be accepted as the usual cut and thrust of politics, to do it a third time, be rebuked by a public letter from the NAO and then after being dragged back to the chamber, gives a half hearted apology. I watched some of the debate on the opposition motion to cut her wages by 1 month. All I got from the government benches was an unwilling and unhappy defence of someone who had been caught bang to rights, and, quite simply should have done the honourable thing, and resigned - not just from the cabinet. TMay should have demanded an immediate resignation, but....
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited July 2018
    Danny565 said:

    Danny565 said:

    Does she specify whether she means an In/Out referendum or Deal/No Deal referendum?
    In her article Ms Greening says that it will be “unacceptable” for MPs to impose a compromise on the electorate.

    The former minister argues that the second referendum should not be a “divisive, binary choice”, proposing that voters are presented with three choices: the prime minister’s negotiated deal; staying in the EU; or a clean break. The voting system should involve first and second preference votes, she says.

    Ms Greening has support of other Remain-backing Tories including Amber Rudd, the former home secretary. Dominic Grieve, the former attorney-general, is expected to lend qualified backing in the coming days.
    It sounds like a horrendous idea, and would probably just result in No Deal winning, for the exact same reasons that Brexit won the first referendum ("No Deal" would be the blank slate of those 3 options, and therefore floating voters could just project whatever they wanted onto it).
    If you offer three options, the one in the middle tends to win (and most especially so if it's conducted under some kind of AV).

    So that would be quite a smart way for Theresa May to get a mandate for her deal, except for the inconvenient fact that there's no time. Even to arrange a referendum would take primary legislation. It ain't gonna happen.
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469

    And the UK press has got it:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-british-diver-vern-unsworth-twitter-pedo-a8448366.html

    Plucky British hero vs arrogant American billionaire....I wonder whose side they'll pick...?

    One interesting thing is that Musk's account of the rescue is very different to other peoples. He says: "Water level was actually very low & still (not flowing) — you could literally have swum to Cave 5 with no gear, which is obv how the kids got in."

    Except the water had gone up since the kids got in, and hence the problem. Whilst some of the way in was dry, diving was still necessary to get them out. Unless I've misunderstood something.

    And on another point:; he wants to risk the lives of other divers by sending his pod in to test it. That's a dickish way to try to prove a point.
    If it was as easy as Musk says, why did a Thai Navy diver die?
    Ex Seal equivalent in the Thai navy, had been retired and was working in Security at a local airport. From reading between the lines, he had not been received requalification on equipment and safety, and that he had been diving without a buddy in a cave system he was not familiar with Sometimes, brave men do incredibly stupid things.
  • PeterMannionPeterMannion Posts: 712
    I'm afraid that's one of the worst pieces I've read on here.

    Truss and McVey?!

    And not understanding why the odds are different on next Tory leader and next PM - REALLY?!?! This is Betting 101 stuff - there's more chance of McVey (say) becoming next Tory leader in either govt or opposition, rather than only in govt.

    Will not read again
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