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  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    England should have been 2-0 or 3-0 up at half-time.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,013
    Oh well. I hope they give a fair assessment to a team that got much further than they were expected to. I know we dared to dream but they have had a solid tournament.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592
    Disappointing for England to go out to Croatia tonight but still a good achievement for them to reach their first World Cup Semi Final in 28 years and room to build on in the future
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    Told you all that you should keep on laying England.

    But the phrase you’re looking for rhymes with clucking bell.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,367
    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Independence?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592
    Sandpit said:

    We've got the 3rd place final on Saturday

    That sorts out my little local difficulty with the wife’s birthday anyway :)
    Plus whether we have to send a royal or May to the final
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,240
    Death knell for Brexit. Pretty good as silver linings go.

    And G is going to win the Tour.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,428
    tlg86 said:

    Chokers.


    Same old same old.

    At least once a generation we have to go through a World Cup let-down with England. :D
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2018
    edit
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,060
    Pulpstar said:

    Beaten by the better team to be fair

    Indeed but the chances missed in the first half were critical
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208
    Kane and Alli both didn’t turn up today. We were outclassed in midfield and in the end they had far more chances. But it is better than we had any right to expect.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Independence?

    Oh dear...not on the menu....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    Sandpit said:

    Oh well, was good while it lasted. They’re a developing young side, maybe football can come home in Qatar England in 2022?

    Good luck to Croatia against the Frogs on Sunday.

    I reckon we've got a chance with Euro 2020 with both semis and the final to be played at Wembley.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,704
    GIN1138 said:

    We've got the 3rd place final on Saturday

    Who cares.

    Third place is for losers.
    Gin , Belgium will hump them again
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,248
    France will be 4-0 at half time if Croatia have a first half like they had tonight.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592

    Death knell for Brexit. Pretty good as silver linings go.

    And G is going to win the Tour.

    What an absurd statement, England AND Wales voted for Brexit and before this tournament had even begun. The correlation between sport and politics is greatly exaggerated
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,248
    Southgate must go!

    (Just getting ahead of the curve!)
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,331
    Hard luck lads, your team and manager seem ok guys and played some decent football. Croatia are a tough, tough team though.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592
    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Scotland to get to a quarter final of a major tournament maybe, never mind a semi final?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,133

    Death knell for Brexit. Pretty good as silver linings go.

    And G is going to win the Tour.

    Hm, don't you think you are overstating it a touch?
  • LordOfReasonLordOfReason Posts: 457
    England crash out. May’s toast.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    AndyJS said:



    England should have been 2-0 or 3-0 up at half-time.

    Indeed.

    When you're so on top as England were then you have to make it pay.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,258
    Let's be honest, squeaking past Colombia was an achievement. But given the draw, this is about a par performance.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Croatia controlled match from 46th minute. Pickford best England player. Croatian coach deserves credit for unpicking England, and working out how to control the game after a poor first half.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,258

    Things we have learnt? ITV should never, ever host England games, ever again.

    Ever.

    Well they have another one on Saturday.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    Oh well. It was good while it lasted.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Ah well. We were so good in the first half hour, but then we lost our composure and we never found it again. It was good fun though.
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    Waistcoats have just gone out of fashion again.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    Did they publish the white paper during the match?

    Still I am cheering for Croatia and England at the weekend - it's time to give the Eurozone a good thrashing!
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,248
    HYUFD said:

    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Scotland to get to a quarter final of a major tournament maybe, never mind a semi final?
    Scotland to qualify for one?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    malcolmg said:

    GIN1138 said:

    We've got the 3rd place final on Saturday

    Who cares.

    Third place is for losers.
    Gin , Belgium will hump them again
    https://twitter.com/garyhynds/status/1016824883307778048?s=21
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592

    England crash out. May’s toast.

    England 'crash' out at the semi final stage for the first time since 1990, 2 years later the Tories won a historic 4th term against a Labour leader expecting to win on his second attempt. Just sayin'!
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    Croatia have shown some real balls in the knock-outs.

    They conceded the first goal against Denmark, Russia and now England but fought back each time.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,346
    Feeling gutted, completely gutted :(
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,428
    edited July 2018
    tlg86 said:

    Things we have learnt? ITV should never, ever host England games, ever again.

    Ever.

    Well they have another one on Saturday.

    Literally nobody cares about the losers match anyway though. :D
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,346

    Croatia have shown some real balls in the knock-outs.

    They conceded the first goal against Denmark, Russia and now England but fought back each time.

    And they won two shoot-outs in a row.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    No blame game needed, Sterling played a part when England were on top, Rashford was fighting a lone battle when the game was going the other way.

    We went out to a quality team, it happens. Team did amazingly to get this far, it is a very young team they have a chance in future tournaments.

    Gutted to go out but its been a great experience that I didn't expect.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,501
    HYUFD said:

    England crash out. May’s toast.

    England 'crash' out at the semi final stage for the first time since 1990, 2 years later the Tories won a historic 4th term against a Labour leader expecting to win on his second attempt. Just sayin'!
    Like!
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    Isn't that an aspect of Hard Brexit ?
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    No blame game needed, Sterling played a part when England were on top, Rashford was fighting a lone battle when the game was going the other way.

    We went out to a quality team, it happens. Team did amazingly to get this far, it is a very young team they have a chance in future tournaments.

    Gutted to go out but its been a great experience that I didn't expect.

    +1
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,779
    HYUFD said:

    England crash out. May’s toast.

    England 'crash' out at the semi final stage for the first time since 1990, 2 years later the Tories won a historic 4th term against a Labour leader expecting to win on his second attempt. Just sayin'!
    Haha - who says history isn't cyclical?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    I know, but the way some of the more hysterical leavers were going on about betrayal I had hopes.

    There's a reason I'm off to Frankfurt for the 6th time this year next week.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Returning to Brexit (groan) and I know there's a couple of hours left, but what happened to "a resignation a day"?
  • LordOfReasonLordOfReason Posts: 457
    HYUFD said:

    England crash out. May’s toast.

    England 'crash' out at the semi final stage for the first time since 1990, 2 years later the Tories won a historic 4th term against a Labour leader expecting to win on his second attempt. Just sayin'!
    And what happened between the crashing out and election win?

    Just sayin.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    dr_spyn said:

    Croatia controlled match from 46th minute. Pickford best England player. Croatian coach deserves credit for unpicking England, and working out how to control the game after a poor first half.

    He's never managed outside of small teams in the Balkans or the Middle East.

    After the WC he's going to get some very nice offers.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    Isn’t it what they’d prefer anyway?
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,240
    RobD said:

    Death knell for Brexit. Pretty good as silver linings go.

    And G is going to win the Tour.

    Hm, don't you think you are overstating it a touch?
    Oh, absolutely. Froome has a chance too.

    More seriously, I do think a World Cup win, lovely though it might have been, would have revived the sense of English exceptionalism; and that would have inflated people's belief that we could thrive as a buccaneering island nation divorced from the world. Reality always bites in the end.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    7 shots on goal to 1.. You don't win games if you pussyfoot about in midfield/
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,108

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592

    HYUFD said:

    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Scotland to get to a quarter final of a major tournament maybe, never mind a semi final?
    Scotland to qualify for one?
    That would be a start, Wales and NI at least got to the 2016 Euros even if not this World Cup
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518
    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    England only win World Cups under a Labour Government
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited July 2018
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Scotland to get to a quarter final of a major tournament maybe, never mind a semi final?
    Scotland to qualify for one?
    That would be a start, Wales and NI at least got to the 2016 Euros even if not this World Cup
    24 countries will make it out of 55 so there is a good chance. It will be an odd tournament though with no host country - albeit Wembley hosts the final 3 matches. Each of the 12 host nations if they qualify are guaranteed 2 group matches at home.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,346

    England only win World Cups under a Labour Government

    Semi-Finals mostly under the Tories:

    1990 WC
    1996 EC
    2018 WC
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    The saddest £54 I will ever cash out on Betfair
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,060
    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    +1
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,258
    brendan16 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    malcolmg said:

    wonderful , England humped and 3 winning bets , what more can you ask for.

    Scotland to get to a quarter final of a major tournament maybe, never mind a semi final?
    Scotland to qualify for one?
    That would be a start, Wales and NI at least got to the 2016 Euros even if not this World Cup
    24 countries will make it out of 55 so there is a good chance. It will be an odd tournament though with no host country - albeit Wembley hosts the final 3 matches. You could in theory have Russia playing a group match in Glasgow and England one in Azerbaijan?
    No, the cities have been allocated already and any hosts which qualify will automatically be placed in those groups. Wembley and Hampden are in one group, so should England and Scotland qualify, they will be in the same group and will draw lots to see who will be at home when they play each other.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    I agree with most of that but it still hurts that this was our best chance of getting to a world cup final.

    Next time we will have a great french team,Italy back,maybe the netherlands,a improved German side and the two great teams from south america Brazil and Argentina.

    And for the English player in the premier league ,dwindling all the time.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,617
    France should win the final, but they should have beaten Portugal when Ronaldo went off after 5 minutes 2 years ago
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,690
    GIN1138 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Things we have learnt? ITV should never, ever host England games, ever again.

    Ever.

    Well they have another one on Saturday.

    Literally nobody cares about the losers match anyway though. :D
    I can think of twenty-eight countries that would like to be there instead.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    All true.

    But I can't help feeling it will be a while before a tournament opens up for England as this one did.

    That doesn't mean they can't win but its likely to be harder next time.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,108
    edited July 2018

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
    What a zinger; you're on fire.

    Masks to a slight extent your ignorance of the game.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    I know, but the way some of the more hysterical leavers were going on about betrayal I had hopes.

    There's a reason I'm off to Frankfurt for the 6th time this year next week.
    I sat down with our senior management (at my employer not my brother’s firm). They are supremely unfussed by the whole thing.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited July 2018

    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    I agree with most of that but it still hurts that this was our best chance of getting to a world cup final.

    Next time we will have a great french team,Italy back,maybe the netherlands,a improved German side and the two great teams from south america Brazil and Argentina.

    And for the English player in the premier league ,dwindling all the time.
    And a finals held in November and early December - no light sultry evenings sitting outside but huddled together inside the pub in the dark. Whose stupid idea was that!?

    It's going to clash with I'm a celebrity so perhaps ITV won't broadcast it as well as the Xmas party season.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518

    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    All true.

    But I can't help feeling it will be a while before a tournament opens up for England as this one did.

    That doesn't mean they can't win but its likely to be harder next time.
    No. And my words shouldn't be interpreted as anything other than absolutely gutted.
  • The_Mule_The_Mule_ Posts: 30
    Curse of ITV strikes again.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
    What a zinger; you're on fire.

    Masks to a slight extent your ignorance of the game.
    What he knows about football is only matched by his knowledge about the number of generals in the army.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    Isn’t it what they’d prefer anyway?
    They got there in the end.

    It too a while for CfB to wade through the treacle that’s Common Council.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited July 2018
    Pulpstar said:

    France should win the final, but they should have beaten Portugal when Ronaldo went off after 5 minutes 2 years ago

    This time the Mbappe factor comes into it.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    Up to a point. Yes, we were lucky to get this far but tonight we really should have beaten Croatia.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
    What a zinger. You're on fire.

    Masks to a slight extent your ignorance of the game.
    Yet you know I'm right.

    Hopefully your newly discovered interest in football will last longer than this weekend.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    I know, but the way some of the more hysterical leavers were going on about betrayal I had hopes.

    There's a reason I'm off to Frankfurt for the 6th time this year next week.
    I sat down with our senior management (at my employer not my brother’s firm). They are supremely unfussed by the whole thing.
    What do they expect will happen ?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Remainers calling for the semi to be replayed yet ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    So football's not coming home but Trump's arriving tomorrow.

    Joy of joys.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    Pulpstar said:

    France should win the final, but they should have beaten Portugal when Ronaldo went off after 5 minutes 2 years ago

    Portugal managed to win only one game in Euro 2016 within the 90 minutes.

    It was a great achievement by a rather limited team.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,617

    So football's not coming home but Trump's arriving tomorrow.

    Joy of joys.

    Will the French winning it ease your pain
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,759
    So sad. We could have done with some good news after all that Brexit unpleasantness.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,428

    GIN1138 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Things we have learnt? ITV should never, ever host England games, ever again.

    Ever.

    Well they have another one on Saturday.

    Literally nobody cares about the losers match anyway though. :D
    I can think of twenty-eight countries that would like to be there instead.
    Really? Why?

    Nobody remembers the defeated finalist never-mind who came third.

    Third place is for losers.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,108
    edited July 2018

    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
    What a zinger. You're on fire.

    Masks to a slight extent your ignorance of the game.
    Yet you know I'm right.

    Hopefully your newly discovered interest in football will last longer than this weekend.
    Look at the performances today. If anyone deserves comment perhaps it's Kane who seemed to have peaked before the game kicked off and seemed to go missing for the second half. There were misses all over the park. There was too much play in our own half back to Pickford, Lingard should have scored, Trippier's distribution was poor and Sterling didn't get into the game at all..

    But by all means if you want to narrow it down to Sterling vs Rashford because you're arguing with someone on the internet, then knock yourself out.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,428
    TGOHF said:

    Remainers calling for the semi to be replayed yet ?

    :D
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    And today gets even better for me.

    May ditches hopes of keeping City in tight tie-up with EU

    White paper discards ‘mutual recognition’ in favour of looser ties after Brexit.

    https://www.ft.com/content/795f9eae-84f2-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

    The City gave up on that a while ago
    I know, but the way some of the more hysterical leavers were going on about betrayal I had hopes.

    There's a reason I'm off to Frankfurt for the 6th time this year next week.
    I sat down with our senior management (at my employer not my brother’s firm). They are supremely unfussed by the whole thing.
    What do they expect will happen ?
    They’ll likely open a small office in Germany but were going to do that anyway. Less than 2% of revenues at risk from hard BREXIT
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,316
    Pulpstar said:

    So football's not coming home but Trump's arriving tomorrow.

    Joy of joys.

    Will the French winning it ease your pain
    Come on Croatia as they have a Liverpool playing for them.

    Fortunately this is now a profitable world cup for me.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,592
    Matt fresh off the press

    'Mrs May said England got most of what it wanted

    https://mobile.twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1017154882594361344/photo/1
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    RobD said:

    Death knell for Brexit. Pretty good as silver linings go.

    And G is going to win the Tour.

    Hm, don't you think you are overstating it a touch?
    Oh, absolutely. Froome has a chance too.

    More seriously, I do think a World Cup win, lovely though it might have been, would have revived the sense of English exceptionalism; and that would have inflated people's belief that we could thrive as a buccaneering island nation divorced from the world. Reality always bites in the end.
    This "English exceptionalism" bollocks is beautifully self-torpedoing, in that the claim seems to be that we do national exceptionalism better, or at least more, than anyone else does. Do you see any problem with that?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,428

    England only win World Cups under a Labour Government

    Well they did **** all under Blair (although I guess you'd argue that wasn't a REAL Labour government :D )
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,897
    edited July 2018

    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    The big 'what-if' will be what if Rashford had been chosen instead of Sterling.

    Sterling was a lot better than Rashford today.
    Sterling runs about a lot but there's little end product.
    Don't quite understand the game do you.

    No shame in that but stop embarrassing yourself.
    I see you're looking in the mirror again Toppo.
    What a zinger; you're on fire.

    Masks to a slight extent your ignorance of the game.
    What he knows about football is only matched by his knowledge about the number of generals in the army.
    Yes my fault for believing what I read on PB without checking myself.

    Did you bother finding out if the British Army could field a full strength Division for its generals to command or what the ratio of Admirals to warships is in the RN.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518

    dixiedean said:

    If anyone had said we'd lose in extra time in the semi before the comp. They'd have said you needed help.
    Rejoice that for once we over achieved.
    And behaved ourselves. This team is a credit to the nation.
    Not often that can be said.

    I agree with most of that but it still hurts that this was our best chance of getting to a world cup final.

    Next time we will have a great french team,Italy back,maybe the netherlands,a improved German side and the two great teams from south america Brazil and Argentina.

    And for the English player in the premier league ,dwindling all the time.
    Again true. But we are not a great England side either. Just a young and promising one. We can't control how good anyone else is.
    And yes it hurts because it was a chance.
    But we have the nucleus of a good side for the next one. The others have to start finding one.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,759
    GIN1138 said:

    England only win World Cups under a Labour Government

    Well they did **** all under Blair (although I guess you'd argue that wasn't a REAL Labour government :D )
    GIN1138 said:

    England only win World Cups under a Labour Government

    Well they did **** all under Blair (although I guess you'd argue that wasn't a REAL Labour government :D )
    Rugby World Cup.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,617
    Neville not optimistic about Brexit
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,922
    Interesting... China has relaxed their 50% limit on foreign business control to entice Tesla to set up manufacturing:
    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Electric-cars-in-China/Tesla-just-the-start-of-China-s-electric-vehicle-plan
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