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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Can Moses lead Nigeria to the promised land ?
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    brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    I expect they will be doing that at the airport tomorrow if their Icelandair flights home are late!
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,076
    Húh!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Iceland has a population the same size as Coventry. A staggering proportion of the nation is in Russia at the moment.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    RobD said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_P said:
    It is a great graphic, but doesnt it just show that (apart from the GFC of 2008-9) that we are out of phase with the other G7 countries. We seem to bounce from top to bottom of the group fairly regularly. Not that I think that we will be top for a while.
    Isn't that bounce simply an artefact of the way the data is being treated? You only have one data point for the UK, and it is being compared to the average of 6 over bits of data. So the variability of the UK data point will inevitably be greater.

    But I agree it is a great graph. Not much sign of the supposed poor economic management of the last Labour government incidentally.
    The graph does start in 2008, and the UK was bottom of the pile coming out of the recession.
    That would be Osborne flat-lining the economy perhaps -- remember Ed Balls' hand gestures? Notice also the coalition inherited a rapidly recovering economy.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    With Peru having their first WC win since 1978 time for a few old memories:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X7n2QW8Cw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avDX5falmns
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    RobD said:

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government
    The 90-year strike price might have been the nail in the coffin. Hinkley C only has 35 years.
    The technology is a leading first for Wales with the prospect of considerable interest worldwide and in enormous advances in tidal power. But we are only Wales, very sad and short sighted
    "The technology is a leading first for Wales" I'll translate that for you:
    "This is enormously expensive and an unproven concept that will never recoup its costs"
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    RobD said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_P said:
    It is a great graphic, but doesnt it just show that (apart from the GFC of 2008-9) that we are out of phase with the other G7 countries. We seem to bounce from top to bottom of the group fairly regularly. Not that I think that we will be top for a while.
    Isn't that bounce simply an artefact of the way the data is being treated? You only have one data point for the UK, and it is being compared to the average of 6 over bits of data. So the variability of the UK data point will inevitably be greater.

    But I agree it is a great graph. Not much sign of the supposed poor economic management of the last Labour government incidentally.
    The graph does start in 2008, and the UK was bottom of the pile coming out of the recession.
    That would be Osborne flat-lining the economy perhaps -- remember Ed Balls' hand gestures? Notice also the coalition inherited a rapidly recovering economy.
    How was it rapidly recovering? Rapidly recovering after a recession is normally 3-4% that didn't happen.

    Despite Brown keeping the spending taps on max and running a £175bn deficit the Coalition only inherited an economy growing at ~2% and then kept it about there ever since.

    The only rapid growing in that entire graph is 2014.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    RobD said:

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government
    The 90-year strike price might have been the nail in the coffin. Hinkley C only has 35 years.
    The technology is a leading first for Wales with the prospect of considerable interest worldwide and in enormous advances in tidal power. But we are only Wales, very sad and short sighted
    So what if its leading how does that possibly justify an exhorbitant 90-year strike price?

    The cost of investment for electricity generation is falling year on year not increasing. Solar and wind especially are seeing ever reducing strike prices for a fraction of the time. Why on earth is it appropriate to guarantee today that in the 22nd Century we would still be paying over the odds for this lagoon?

    That's unprecedented and inexcusable, glad its been stopped.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    notme said:

    RobD said:

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government
    The 90-year strike price might have been the nail in the coffin. Hinkley C only has 35 years.
    The technology is a leading first for Wales with the prospect of considerable interest worldwide and in enormous advances in tidal power. But we are only Wales, very sad and short sighted
    "The technology is a leading first for Wales" I'll translate that for you:
    "This is enormously expensive and an unproven concept that will never recoup its costs"
    Oh no those involved absolutely would recoup their costs as they'd have virtually a century at a strike price well over the odds. That's a licence to print money.

    The consumers would suffer though.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    dr_spyn said:
    The grisly embrace continues with no end in sight.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    tlg86 said:

    I think ITV will go for that with their second pick.
    Saturday night prime time, seems nailed on for ITV.
    I'm sure Pepe and Suarez will show the utmost respect for the game
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Argentinian players look like they've got about 50 tonnes on each shoulder.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,481
    Pulpstar said:

    tlg86 said:

    I think ITV will go for that with their second pick.
    Saturday night prime time, seems nailed on for ITV.
    I'm sure Pepe and Suarez will show the utmost respect for the game
    #TheBattleOfTheBastards
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    Oh and for DUP pet projects in NI

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government


    I don't know what Reg Race did to cause that but I doubt it was losing Tony Benn's personal vote because Benn never had one.
    How else do you account for the move from Lab to LD?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,076
    Pulpstar said:

    Iceland has a population the same size as Coventry. A staggering proportion of the nation is in Russia at the moment.

    Is hosting the World Cup just an elaborate distraction burglary so Putin can invade?
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,341

    Pulpstar said:

    Iceland has a population the same size as Coventry. A staggering proportion of the nation is in Russia at the moment.

    Is hosting the World Cup just an elaborate distraction burglary so Putin can invade?
    You can bet they’ve thought about it.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,076
    Liz Truss is giving fireplace man a run for his money.
    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011667579331543042
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    edited June 2018

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    Oh and for DUP pet projects in NI

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government


    I don't know what Reg Race did to cause that but I doubt it was losing Tony Benn's personal vote because Benn never had one.
    How else do you account for the move from Lab to LD?
    You're the local man but the fact is Tony Benn only got 50.8% at Labour's peak in 1997 which was only 4% more than Labour managed at their trough in 1983, lower than in any election between 1959 to 1979 and also 4% less than Tiny Toby received in 2017.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited June 2018

    Liz Truss is giving fireplace man a run for his money.
    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011667579331543042

    By completely disagreeing with him and challenging him you mean?

    Good on Liz Truss.

    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011670141334179840
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Boooooooo....
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Sublime stuff, Messi has finally arrived.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    Oh and for DUP pet projects in NI

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government


    I don't know what Reg Race did to cause that but I doubt it was losing Tony Benn's personal vote because Benn never had one.
    How else do you account for the move from Lab to LD?
    You're the local man but the fact is Tony Benn only got 50.8% at Labour's peak in 1997 which was only 4% more than Labour managed at their trough in 1983, lower than in any election between 1959 to 1979 and also 4% less than Tiny Toby received in 2017.
    He got 26k votes even in 1992

    Reggy baby lost 8000 Labour votes including mine
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Argentina better hope Croatia don't throw their match...
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited June 2018
    Pulpstar said:

    Argentina better hope Croatia don't throw their match...

    Argentina’s defence is so shit, Nigeria not out of it. However, nigeria are incredibly weak team.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Argentina qualify in as it stands table
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    Oh and for DUP pet projects in NI

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government


    I don't know what Reg Race did to cause that but I doubt it was losing Tony Benn's personal vote because Benn never had one.
    How else do you account for the move from Lab to LD?
    You're the local man but the fact is Tony Benn only got 50.8% at Labour's peak in 1997 which was only 4% more than Labour managed at their trough in 1983, lower than in any election between 1959 to 1979 and also 4% less than Tiny Toby received in 2017.
    He got 26k votes even in 1992

    Reggy baby lost 8000 Labour votes including mine
    So what did he do to lose your vote ?
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    Pulpstar said:

    Argentina better hope Croatia don't throw their match...

    Didn't Iceland beat Croatia in qualifying ?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,315
    Blimey - 2019 Champions league qualifiers start tonight
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    ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    As it stands France v Arg on Saturday, and the pundits think we have problems.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited June 2018
    They are saying the Nigerian goalie played for the u17 when he was supposedly 14 and is still just 19 years old...so his real age is probably 34.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873

    Uproar in Welsh Assembly today over the lagoon decision including from the Welsh Conservative leader with a motion tomorrow seeking the abolition of the position of Secretary of State for Wales

    Make no mistake this was a seriously bad decision for Wales and terrible for Welsh conservatives

    There is no MMT for Wales.

    Only for West London new runways and the NHS in England.

    Oh and for DUP pet projects in NI

    You have my sympathy Big G

    Really bad Politics by this Chaotic Government


    I don't know what Reg Race did to cause that but I doubt it was losing Tony Benn's personal vote because Benn never had one.
    How else do you account for the move from Lab to LD?
    You're the local man but the fact is Tony Benn only got 50.8% at Labour's peak in 1997 which was only 4% more than Labour managed at their trough in 1983, lower than in any election between 1959 to 1979 and also 4% less than Tiny Toby received in 2017.
    He got 26k votes even in 1992

    Reggy baby lost 8000 Labour votes including mine
    So what did he do to lose your vote ?
    He had moved on from Socialism by early in the Blair era. By 2001 he was a Blairite Toady.

    TBF other than Benn Labour have generally had right wing Labour Candidates


    As part of Labour First Reg still donates to our current Progress MP (actually to the CLP TBF)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Lol it is free to play too. Can the kids not live without a lollipop instead of a pickaxe ?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Pulpstar said:

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Lol it is free to play too. Can the kids not live without a lollipop instead of a pickaxe ?
    Gotta have that panda onesie outfit or whatever other crap the kids spend their parents money on.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    Pulpstar said:

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Lol it is free to play too. Can the kids not live without a lollipop instead of a pickaxe ?
    Gotta have that panda onesie outfit or whatever other crap the kids spend their parents money on.
    It's actually not a bad game. Quake 3/Counterstrike for 2018.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Fortnite has taken hold in the BJO household.

    My Son in Law spends all day after his nightshift on the bloody thing.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Lol it is free to play too. Can the kids not live without a lollipop instead of a pickaxe ?
    Gotta have that panda onesie outfit or whatever other crap the kids spend their parents money on.
    It's actually not a bad game. Quake 3/Counterstrike for 2018.
    Not for me. I prefer PUBG, but all the cheating and it still been buggy 2 years after release has rather put me off.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Iceland defying the original match odds by outplaying Croatia.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    AndyJS said:

    Iceland defying the original match odds by outplaying Croatia.

    Problem for Nigeria and Argentina is that it is pretty much a friendly for Croatia
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,798

    Fortnite: Battle Royale has brought in more revenue in a single month than any other game of its kind. The free-to-play game hit a new revenue record of $318 million in May, according to SuperData Research.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Crickey. Talk about a licence to print money. And it was a bolted on thing to a game already in development as I understand. With that kind of money possible on such titles I think I'm lucky to get any of the single player games I much prefer.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,798

    Liz Truss is giving fireplace man a run for his money.
    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011667579331543042

    By completely disagreeing with him and challenging him you mean?

    Good on Liz Truss.

    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011670141334179840
    In fairness it is tougher, whether or not it is a good idea in specific departments.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,798
    Charles said:

    Scott_P said:
    Technically the same is true in Westminster. Cabinet Ministers are appointed by the Criwn - the PM can ask them to resign but only the Queen can fire them
    It seems to be rare that you get outright sackings, or even so outright that they can still be called sackings. IIRC Green was 'asked' to resign rather than 'offering' his resignation, and thus was able to be called a sacking.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Had an offer from the Torygraph

    £150 for an Annual Subscription to the Papers

    Of course I filed it in the large black filing cabinet

    Still would be a bargain if it was my kind of thing

    Have the print media really gone this big on discounting. Incredible
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,394

    Liz Truss is giving fireplace man a run for his money.
    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011667579331543042

    By completely disagreeing with him and challenging him you mean?

    Good on Liz Truss.

    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1011670141334179840
    That is a DISGRACE.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    Had an offer from the Torygraph

    £150 for an Annual Subscription to the Papers

    Of course I filed it in the large black filing cabinet

    Still would be a bargain if it was my kind of thing

    Have the print media really gone this big on discounting. Incredible

    Ask for 200
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Pulpstar said:

    Had an offer from the Torygraph

    £150 for an Annual Subscription to the Papers

    Of course I filed it in the large black filing cabinet

    Still would be a bargain if it was my kind of thing

    Have the print media really gone this big on discounting. Incredible

    Ask for 200
    Amazingly I was once a Telegraph subscriber

    Then a Times one.

    Now its just the Radio Times (Done the 10 issues for £1 three times) under my name, Mrs BJOs and Baby BJOs)
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    Iceland defying the original match odds by outplaying Croatia.

    Problem for Nigeria and Argentina is that it is pretty much a friendly for Croatia
    Do you think Croatia are not going 100% for the win?
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,314
    edited June 2018
    .
    HYUFD said:

    Interesting article, in Epping the town council has called a referendum on the neighbourhood plan

    Every neighbourhood plan must be ratified by a local referendum.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Brexit pushes Theresa May into alliance with Hungary's right-wing populists as Tories vote against sanctions

    Hungarian foreign minister comes to UK aid on Brexit hours after Tories side with populists"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-theresa-may-hungary-sanctions-eu-alliance-populism-right-wing-a8417846.html
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,076
    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Dotun Adebayo household errupts
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    The intimidation of the penalty taker is disgraceful.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,315
    Well this is fun
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Come on Nigeria.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,946

    The intimidation of the penalty taker is disgraceful.

    It really was. Nigeria should have been given a second for that!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    AndyJS said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    Iceland defying the original match odds by outplaying Croatia.

    Problem for Nigeria and Argentina is that it is pretty much a friendly for Croatia
    Do you think Croatia are not going 100% for the win?
    No, but there is no consequence to them losing.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    AndyJS said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    Iceland defying the original match odds by outplaying Croatia.

    Problem for Nigeria and Argentina is that it is pretty much a friendly for Croatia
    Do you think Croatia are not going 100% for the win?
    1-0 Croatia
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,969

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    Their previous intervention from them on this matter didn't go down that well, did it?
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,946

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    That quoting is, surprise surprise, somewhat selective. And from early 2017.

    If you haven't watched it, can thoroughly recommend - it was a really good programme, and the US ambassador seems a very interesting chap. So pro business.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Argentina’s defence is never go to keep out the likes of Brazil.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    This could get ugly 35 mins to stay in World Cup
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Pulpstar said:

    Can Moses lead Nigeria to the promised land ?

    Ho ho
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Remember england beat Nigeria easily....just saying like.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,394
    Mortimer said:

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    That quoting is, surprise surprise, somewhat selective. And from early 2017.

    If you haven't watched it, can thoroughly recommend - it was a really good programme, and the US ambassador seems a very interesting chap. So pro business.
    Are you expect quoting *in* context from William?

    There would have been all sorts of similar doomsday analysis in boardrooms all over the past 2 years.

    Far too many well-paid analysts didn’t challenge their underlying modelling assumptions.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    That question was badly timed as it turned out.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    Remember england beat Nigeria easily....just saying like.

    Nigeria look brilliant at times and terrible at others.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited June 2018
    Pulpstar said:

    Remember england beat Nigeria easily....just saying like.

    Nigeria look brilliant at times and terrible at others.
    Same with Argentina, while also looking shocking in defence.
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,857

    Mortimer said:

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    That quoting is, surprise surprise, somewhat selective. And from early 2017.

    If you haven't watched it, can thoroughly recommend - it was a really good programme, and the US ambassador seems a very interesting chap. So pro business.
    Are you expect quoting *in* context from William?

    There would have been all sorts of similar doomsday analysis in boardrooms all over the past 2 years.

    Far too many well-paid analysts didn’t challenge their underlying modelling assumptions.
    Brexit’s favourite economist Patrick Minford is certainly questioning his underlying model. He now concedes Brexit is damaging the economy and agrees he was perhaps a little optimistic.

    It’s only Russian trolls and numpties now pleading the case for Brexit.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    This is like Germany, part of me expects Argentina to find a way
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    This is like Germany, part of me expects Argentina to find a way

    They probably will, but we aren’t seeing the World Cup winners this evening.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,076

    Mortimer said:

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    That quoting is, surprise surprise, somewhat selective. And from early 2017.

    If you haven't watched it, can thoroughly recommend - it was a really good programme, and the US ambassador seems a very interesting chap. So pro business.
    Are you expect quoting *in* context from William?

    There would have been all sorts of similar doomsday analysis in boardrooms all over the past 2 years.

    Far too many well-paid analysts didn’t challenge their underlying modelling assumptions.
    The most pertinent comment was about the political nature of the negotiations - that this isn't a negotiation of equals, but a set of choices for the UK that range from less good to very bad.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190

    This is like Germany, part of me expects Argentina to find a way

    They probably will, but we aren’t seeing the World Cup winners this evening.
    You might be if you have the other game on your laptop. ;)
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190
    Goal for Iceland.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    How did he miss the that.....
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    That dickhead of a referee last night would have given a penalty there
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Iceland equalises
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,481
    Fucking Argies.

    Nigeria sunk like The General Belgrano.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190
    It would be amusing if the final whistle goes in this game only for Iceland to get a late winner.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190

    Fucking Argies.

    Nigeria sunk like The General Belgrano.

    How good would it be for that fat, cheating, cocaine snorting scumbag to have a massive coronary in the stands?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,481
    tlg86 said:

    Fucking Argies.

    Nigeria sunk like The General Belgrano.

    How good would it be for that fat, cheating, cocaine snorting scumbag to have a massive coronary in the stands?
    He broke my heart as a seven year old.

    He’s classy as ever.

    https://twitter.com/deadspin/status/1011697043465785344?s=21
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,873
    Argentina do a Germany
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929

    tlg86 said:

    Fucking Argies.

    Nigeria sunk like The General Belgrano.

    How good would it be for that fat, cheating, cocaine snorting scumbag to have a massive coronary in the stands?
    He broke my heart as a seven year old.

    He’s classy as ever.

    https://twitter.com/deadspin/status/1011697043465785344?s=21
    Going to be a good night for the coke dealers and hookers of St Petersburg
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    Argentina deserved that win just as Germany deserved their's.

    Nigeria, just as Sweden did, went too defensive which is far too risky at this level.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Referee had an excellent game to be fair.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,979
    Bloody lucky Argies. Can see them going far now.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,481
    Labour could slash the number of MPs needed to nominate a successor to Jeremy Corbyn, handing new powers to members and trade unions as part of a slew of party reforms briefed to trade unions.

    Trade union general secretaries were told this week about the changes set to be proposed at the party conference, the Guardian understands. “This virtually guarantees that a left-wing candidate could succeed Corbyn as leader,” a source said.

    The proposals include allowing party members to elect local council leaders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/26/labour-proposals-all-but-guarantee-left-wing-corbyn-successor?CMP=twt_gu
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101

    Had an offer from the Torygraph

    £150 for an Annual Subscription to the Papers

    Of course I filed it in the large black filing cabinet

    Still would be a bargain if it was my kind of thing

    Have the print media really gone this big on discounting. Incredible

    I'm surprised anyone buys the Guardian with it being free online.

    Perhaps being seen to have a print copy brings a certain social cachet in certain circles.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    Would it be one or two teams to go through from the three team groups ?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,798

    Labour could slash the number of MPs needed to nominate a successor to Jeremy Corbyn, handing new powers to members and trade unions as part of a slew of party reforms briefed to trade unions.

    Trade union general secretaries were told this week about the changes set to be proposed at the party conference, the Guardian understands. “This virtually guarantees that a left-wing candidate could succeed Corbyn as leader,” a source said.

    The proposals include allowing party members to elect local council leaders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/26/labour-proposals-all-but-guarantee-left-wing-corbyn-successor?CMP=twt_gu

    Seems a little unnecessary - the membershio's backing of Corbyn shows that if you get onto the ballot a left wing candidate is able to win it, and for all the resignations and problems with his MPs he has had, I should think there are at least 50 plus who would nominated a new Corbyn.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    France vs Argentina. A real alien vs predator situation. :/
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,481

    Would it be one or two teams to go through from the three team groups ?
    Two.

    I'm also worried about the potential for another disgrace of Gijón.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    American Betting News:

    https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/1011640324836478976

    VA-10 was won by 6 points by the Republican candidate in 2016.
    The last time it voted for a Dem CongressPerson was 1978.

    That said it has, in recent times, swung both ways when it comes to Presidential vote -
    Bush by 11 points in 2004
    Obama by 3 points in 2008
    Romney by 1 point in 2012
    Clinton by 10 points in 2016
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    edited June 2018
    Big news this - the second point would be incendiary.
    https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/1011699001211740160
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    kle4 said:

    Labour could slash the number of MPs needed to nominate a successor to Jeremy Corbyn, handing new powers to members and trade unions as part of a slew of party reforms briefed to trade unions.

    Trade union general secretaries were told this week about the changes set to be proposed at the party conference, the Guardian understands. “This virtually guarantees that a left-wing candidate could succeed Corbyn as leader,” a source said.

    The proposals include allowing party members to elect local council leaders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/26/labour-proposals-all-but-guarantee-left-wing-corbyn-successor?CMP=twt_gu

    Seems a little unnecessary - the membershio's backing of Corbyn shows that if you get onto the ballot a left wing candidate is able to win it, and for all the resignations and problems with his MPs he has had, I should think there are at least 50 plus who would nominated a new Corbyn.
    It's the council leader change that would be dynamite. The McDonnell amendment is almost superfluous as things stand.
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    OllyTOllyT Posts: 4,913

    Mortimer said:

    This is the message the US ambassador is being given by his staff about Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1011636382786314240

    That quoting is, surprise surprise, somewhat selective. And from early 2017.

    If you haven't watched it, can thoroughly recommend - it was a really good programme, and the US ambassador seems a very interesting chap. So pro business.
    Are you expect quoting *in* context from William?

    There would have been all sorts of similar doomsday analysis in boardrooms all over the past 2 years.

    Far too many well-paid analysts didn’t challenge their underlying modelling assumptions.
    Brexit’s favourite economist Patrick Minford is certainly questioning his underlying model. He now concedes Brexit is damaging the economy and agrees he was perhaps a little optimistic.

    It’s only Russian trolls and numpties now pleading the case for Brexit.
    Do you have a link?. Genuinely interested to to read what he has to say
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101

    Would it be one or two teams to go through from the three team groups ?
    Two.

    I'm also worried about the potential for another disgrace of Gijón.
    There's a reason that the second phase of three team groups was not continued after 1982.
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,857

    Big news this - the second point would be incendiary.
    https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/1011699001211740160

    Corbyn is intent on making Labour unelectable.
    Having helped bugger the country on Brexit, he’s going to destroy his party as a final act.
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