Well, after 5 hours solid gardening I am resting my weary feet on the terrace, where there is sunshine, a bit of a breeze, bird song and quiet.
Does life get any more perfect? No.
Anyway, just for @NickPalmer here is dear old Jeremy giving a speech at a rally for Iran praising Iran’s “tolerance and diversity” (tell that to the Bahai’s) in 2015. He does of course mention the human rights abuses under the Shah. But not a word of criticism of the current Iranian regime.
He mentions those Iranians who fled to London after the 1952 coup which overthrew Mossadeq and then goes on to say what a large Iranian community there is on Britain - 300,000 but in a nice piece of sleight of hand fails to mention that that community contains many who fled Iran after the Khomeinist revolution. Perhaps he did not want to upset his hosts? Perhaps he does not know about them? But in a speech devoted to a tour d’horizon of British history in Iran it is odd that he chooses to be economical with an actualite which does not reflect well on the current regime, whose tolerance and diversity he has just praised.
Note also how he pats himself on the back for raising the issue of the chemical gas attack by Saddam Hussein on Halabja and contrast this with his recent reaction to similar attacks by the Syrian leader on his people.
It is very well being in favour of a world without war and weapons and hatred, as Corbyn says in that speech. No-one would disagree with him on that aim. But it does not occur to him that a regime which treats its own people as appallingly as the Iranian regime has is perhaps not necessarily one which will spread peace and goodwill to its neighbours.
No mention of their predilection for throwing gays off roofs then? Strange that.
That contradicts Chris Williamson's tweet which had Labour ahead in Wandsworth
I'll have to check it again. Maybe I've made a mistake somewhere.
Or of course he may have done, or Abbott been doing the arithmetic.
Either way - Curtice said Battersea would have gone blue which suggests Labour may be piling up votes in tooting at the expense of Battersea and Putney. Another tweet on Britain elects puts Labour ahead on overall vote share.
Well, after 5 hours solid gardening I am resting my weary feet on the terrace, where there is sunshine, a bit of a breeze, bird song and quiet.
Does life get any more perfect? No.
Anyway, just for @NickPalmer here is dear old Jeremy giving a speech at a rally for Iran praising Iran’s “tolerance and diversity” (tell that to the Bahai’s) in 2015. He does of course mention the human rights abuses under the Shah. But not a word of criticism of the current Iranian regime.
He mentions those Iranians who fled to London after the 1952 coup which overthrew Mossadeq and then goes on to say what a large Iranian community there is on Britain - 300,000 but in a nice piece of sleight of hand fails to mention that that community contains many who fled Iran after the Khomeinist revolution. Perhaps he did not want to upset his hosts? Perhaps he does not know about them? But in a speech devoted to a tour d’horizon of British history in Iran it is odd that he chooses to be economical with an actualite which does not reflect well on the current regime, whose tolerance and diversity he has just praised.
Note also how he pats himself on the back for raising the issue of the chemical gas attack by Saddam Hussein on Halabja and contrast this with his recent reaction to similar attacks by the Syrian leader on his people.
It is very well being in favour of a world without war and weapons and hatred, as Corbyn says in that speech. No-one would disagree with him on that aim. But it does not occur to him that a regime which treats its own people as appallingly as the Iranian regime has is perhaps not necessarily one which will spread peace and goodwill to its neighbours.
No mention of their predilection for throwing gays off roofs then? Strange that.
Nope - and of course Corbyn fanboy Owen Jones ought to be worried about that - Oxford degrees not what they were
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
I'm prepared to accept we could still get relegated at this point and after some pain numbing G&Ts
Here's what should worry the Tories about that chart. Once the governing party starts to lose ground, they continue to do so until they lose power.
This is a slightly unusual period because they were effectively the ConLib party for 5 years, then the Conservative party for 1, then the Brexit party for 2. Potentially they can reinvent themselves again.
The Tories lost by 7.3% in 1966. Moreover, national vote shares for both the Tories and Labour were then artificially high because circa 250 constituencies had straight fights between them. The Liberals only contested 330 of the 630 seats.
I kind of want West Brom to stay up, for all they have taken points off Liverpool this season. Quite honestly, when I've seen West Brom play they didn't look like relegation contenders, so I feel like they deserve the luck.
A few of us are on them to go down at decent odds.
The morality of your post reminds me of a well known headline after an earthquake in Assam. Every newspaper covered it with touching pictures and reports. The FT headline was:
A few of us are on them to go down at decent odds.
The morality of your post reminds me of a well known headline after an earthquake in Assam. Every newspaper covered it with touching pictures and reports. The FT headline was:
"Earthquake in Assam. Tea shares drop"
Harsh indeed.
We get awfully mercenary on here about some things though
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
I think the Champions League winners qualifies as of right without denying the fourth place team their position in the qualifying round.
If Arsenal had won the Europa Cup and Liverpool the Champions League and finished 5th in the Premiership then England would have had six teams in the next competition.
Edit - Five teams maximum. If above 4th Premiership team drops to the Europa.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
I think the Champions League winners qualifies as of right without denying the fourth place team their position in the qualifying round.
If Arsenal had won the Europa Cup and Liverpool the Champions League and finished 5th in the Premiership then England would have had six teams in the next competition.
Edit - Five teams maximum. If above 4th Premiership team drops to the Europa.
Nah, Spurs lost their Champions League spot in 2012 when Chelsea won the Champions League and finished outside the top 4.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
I think the Champions League winners qualifies as of right without denying the fourth place team their position in the qualifying round.
If Arsenal had won the Europa Cup and Liverpool the Champions League and finished 5th in the Premiership then England would have had six teams in the next competition.
Edit - Five teams maximum. If above 4th Premiership team drops to the Europa.
Nah, Spurs lost their Champions League spot in 2012 when Chelsea won the Champions League and finished outside the top 4.
Lab 122,219 Con 121,295 LD 24,387 Green 12,969 Ind 4,150 Renew 2,474
Highest vote method:
Lab 42,649 Con 42,054 Green 9,502 LD 9,339 Ind 4,150 Renew 2,474
Lets call it gerrymandering. It is Saturday evening. Just up after a nap.
Poor targeting, more likely.
Doesn't even seem like it is easy to gerrymander - local parties, interests groups and residents can all submit proposals to the local government boundary commission, who care about raw numbers most of all and need a lot of reasoning to adjust, and then they can take elements from all the different submissions, and make adjustments themselves, before presenting it to parliament as a fait accompli.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
Hope that you all piled on to West Ham today after my tip this morning. Leicester are abject at present. Puels subs today at the 60th minute were so poor that the crowd booed them and chanted "you don't know what you are doing"., then "You're getting sacked in the morning" at our own manager. At the time we were only 1 nil down. The crowd cheered when we finally had a shot on target at the 86th minute.
Unless Appleton is acting manager for the final match, Spurs are guaranteed 3 points in their final match.
Last year all three teams going down from the Premier League came from Brexitland.
So far Stoke is down from Brexitland. West Brom voted Leave. So too did Southampton and Swansea - just. Huddersfield possibly voted to Remain - again just.
Now work out which teams will join Stoke [ capital of Brexitland ].
Meanwhile all teams at the top are from Remainistan !
Just found out the Lib Dems won 6 council seats in Merton - all in Wimbledon constituency.
Posh white liberal middle class communities who live in 'nice areas' which are less diverse than the wider city or town - essentially the definition of a Lib Dem ward/borough. Outside the very posh north of Southwark by the Thames they barely exist in poorer or average London boroughs.
Exactly - voters who consider themselves too "nice" to vote Conservative but don't want to risk their taxes going up too much!
I kind of want West Brom to stay up, for all they have taken points off Liverpool this season. Quite honestly, when I've seen West Brom play they didn't look like relegation contenders, so I feel like they deserve the luck.
West Brom fight right at the end should teach the people who bank roll this game. Pardew came in, won just one game and pocketed probably more than a million! I am not sure what he has ever actually achieved.
Meanwhile Darren Moore was always there - right there.
The Tottenham choke well and truly on. I won £105 on West Brom today and topped up my Spurs finishinh outside the top 4 position. On for just over £3,500 now. Will get another £100 when Chelsea beat Liverpool tomorrow and will top up some more, if they let me.
did you see my post earlier on similar lines, i won £130 today. Used some to back an inevitable Chelsea win tomorrow and had already bet on losing to Newcastle on Weds...
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
You know what's going to happen don't you.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
I think the Champions League winners qualifies as of right without denying the fourth place team their position in the qualifying round.
If Arsenal had won the Europa Cup and Liverpool the Champions League and finished 5th in the Premiership then England would have had six teams in the next competition.
Edit - Five teams maximum. If above 4th Premiership team drops to the Europa.
Why mention that Owen Jones is 'Oxford educated'? Is it supposed to make us surprised at his stupidity or just add further confirmation of it?
Makes me very proud to have been at the other place.
Cos Diane Abbott is a credit to all her fellow students?
I raise you by a Polly Toynbee.
Nick Griffin is a trump card in this game, right?
Nah, Jeffrey Archer is the the trump card in this game.
Brasenose let in just anybody don't they?
Yeah, some mediocre, indolent posh boy called Cameron. Disappeared without trace after graduation.
Dave would have gone down as our finest PM if he had attended Balliol.
As time goes by, my respect for Dave is actually going up. Reasonably decent person, likes dead pigs and brilliantly executed plans to target Lib Dems to win the 2015 GE.
I kind of want West Brom to stay up, for all they have taken points off Liverpool this season. Quite honestly, when I've seen West Brom play they didn't look like relegation contenders, so I feel like they deserve the luck.
West Brom fight right at the end should teach the people who bank roll this game. Pardew came in, won just one game and pocketed probably more than a million! I am not sure what he has ever actually achieved.
Meanwhile Darren Moore was always there - right there.
Sean Dyche really deserves manager of the season. Guardiola will get it, but Burnley really have no business being as high as they are with what they cost, and with the number of goals they have scored.
Why mention that Owen Jones is 'Oxford educated'? Is it supposed to make us surprised at his stupidity or just add further confirmation of it?
Makes me very proud to have been at the other place.
Cos Diane Abbott is a credit to all her fellow students?
I raise you by a Polly Toynbee.
Nick Griffin is a trump card in this game, right?
Nah, Jeffrey Archer is the the trump card in this game.
Brasenose let in just anybody don't they?
Yeah, some mediocre, indolent posh boy called Cameron. Disappeared without trace after graduation.
Dave would have gone down as our finest PM if he had attended Balliol.
As time goes by, my respect for Dave is actually going up. Reasonably decent person, likes dead pigs and brilliantly executed plans to target Lib Dems to win the 2015 GE.
OK, Osborne and Crosby may have a say in that.
Don't forget the targetting of the Labour seats as well.
Without winning 8 seats from Labour in 2015 Dave wouldn't have had a majority.
Why mention that Owen Jones is 'Oxford educated'? Is it supposed to make us surprised at his stupidity or just add further confirmation of it?
Makes me very proud to have been at the other place.
Cos Diane Abbott is a credit to all her fellow students?
I raise you by a Polly Toynbee.
Nick Griffin is a trump card in this game, right?
Nah, Jeffrey Archer is the the trump card in this game.
Brasenose let in just anybody don't they?
Yeah, some mediocre, indolent posh boy called Cameron. Disappeared without trace after graduation.
Dave would have gone down as our finest PM if he had attended Balliol.
As time goes by, my respect for Dave is actually going up. Reasonably decent person, likes dead pigs and brilliantly executed plans to target Lib Dems to win the 2015 GE.
OK, Osborne and Crosby may have a say in that.
Don't forget the targetting of the Labour seats as well.
Without winning 8 seats from Labour in 2015 Dave wouldn't have had a majority.
Huzzah for Labour complacency in 2015.
Actually, between Labour and Tory, the net win went to Labour, I think. Possibly 1 or 2.
Why mention that Owen Jones is 'Oxford educated'? Is it supposed to make us surprised at his stupidity or just add further confirmation of it?
Makes me very proud to have been at the other place.
Cos Diane Abbott is a credit to all her fellow students?
I raise you by a Polly Toynbee.
Nick Griffin is a trump card in this game, right?
Nah, Jeffrey Archer is the the trump card in this game.
Brasenose let in just anybody don't they?
Yeah, some mediocre, indolent posh boy called Cameron. Disappeared without trace after graduation.
Dave would have gone down as our finest PM if he had attended Balliol.
As time goes by, my respect for Dave is actually going up. Reasonably decent person, likes dead pigs and brilliantly executed plans to target Lib Dems to win the 2015 GE.
OK, Osborne and Crosby may have a say in that.
Don't forget the targetting of the Labour seats as well.
Without winning 8 seats from Labour in 2015 Dave wouldn't have had a majority.
Huzzah for Labour complacency in 2015.
Actually, between Labour and Tory, the net win went to Labour, I think. Possibly 1 or 2.
Irrelevant, without those 8 gains the Tories would not have won a majority.
I kind of want West Brom to stay up, for all they have taken points off Liverpool this season. Quite honestly, when I've seen West Brom play they didn't look like relegation contenders, so I feel like they deserve the luck.
West Brom fight right at the end should teach the people who bank roll this game. Pardew came in, won just one game and pocketed probably more than a million! I am not sure what he has ever actually achieved.
Meanwhile Darren Moore was always there - right there.
Sean Dyche really deserves manager of the season. Guardiola will get it, but Burnley really have no business being as high as they are with what they cost, and with the number of goals they have scored.
At least they have a positive goal difference. Everton managed to finish fourth in 2004-05 with a goal difference of -1!
I kind of want West Brom to stay up, for all they have taken points off Liverpool this season. Quite honestly, when I've seen West Brom play they didn't look like relegation contenders, so I feel like they deserve the luck.
West Brom fight right at the end should teach the people who bank roll this game. Pardew came in, won just one game and pocketed probably more than a million! I am not sure what he has ever actually achieved.
Meanwhile Darren Moore was always there - right there.
Sean Dyche really deserves manager of the season. Guardiola will get it, but Burnley really have no business being as high as they are with what they cost, and with the number of goals they have scored.
Agreed. Also they win the Brexitland Premier League - way above Bournemouth.
On topic this chart is great to silence those Tories/May fans who frottage themselves silly over the fact Mrs May did so well because she polled over 40%.
They ignore the fact Corbyn polled in the 40s as well.
On topic this chart is great to silence those Tories/May fans who frottage themselves silly over the fact Mrs May did so well because she polled over 40%.
They ignore the fact Corbyn polled in the 40s as well.
To be strictly accurate he polled 39.99 on a nationwide share.
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Wandsworth:
All votes:
Lab 122,219
Con 121,295
LD 24,387
Green 12,969
Ind 4,150
Renew 2,474
Highest vote method:
Lab 42,649
Con 42,054
Green 9,502
LD 9,339
Ind 4,150
Renew 2,474
Even more Spurs is that the Baggies having beaten us in injury time look set to be relegated today anyway now with Saints winning in the late game.
Liverpool are going to finish 5th and win Old Big Ears in Kyiv, so the fourth place side gets shunted into the Europa League and we take their place.
You need to finish third.
Suggestion Mike - adding a vertical line at 50:50 would make this much easier to read
Plus it'll be amusing if Southampton stay up and don't get relegated like Stoke.
"Earthquake in Assam. Tea shares drop"
We get awfully mercenary on here about some things though
If Arsenal had won the Europa Cup and Liverpool the Champions League and finished 5th in the Premiership then England would have had six teams in the next competition.
Edit - Five teams maximum. If above 4th Premiership team drops to the Europa.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2499801.html
Ask Scrapheap, he enjoys talking about that.
Unless Appleton is acting manager for the final match, Spurs are guaranteed 3 points in their final match.
It was surreal, but it was brilliant.
Brasenose let in just anybody don't they?
So far Stoke is down from Brexitland. West Brom voted Leave. So too did Southampton and Swansea - just. Huddersfield possibly voted to Remain - again just.
Now work out which teams will join Stoke [ capital of Brexitland ].
Meanwhile all teams at the top are from Remainistan !
Meanwhile Darren Moore was always there - right there.
There's nothing more nauseating that a member of the middle classes pretending to be a member of the working class.
OK, Osborne and Crosby may have a say in that.
Without winning 8 seats from Labour in 2015 Dave wouldn't have had a majority.
Huzzah for Labour complacency in 2015.
He said that he’d previous been the church warden of a Guild Church in London and had spent many hours gazing at the tombs of my ancestors....
They ignore the fact Corbyn polled in the 40s as well.
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Per opposed candidate it was over 40.