We're talking about real doctors, not non medical doctors.
The irony being of course that most medics called 'Dr' are not, in fact, real doctors like Sunil and me...
When I was working out what degree to choose for university one of the long term routes I looked at was getting a doctorate in history of physics.
Which pathway? Physics or history?
The history way, I was always fascinated by the religious history of the persecution of the likes of Copernicus.
Plus I loved physics too, really proud of my A in A Level physics.
Okaaay...
Copernicus was never actually persecuted. Indeed, his writings were accepted by the Catholic Church and Clement VII seems to have approved of them. Not until much later were they even controversial. The only attacks on him in his lifetime were by Lutherans cross he wouldn't convert.
So I am puzzled you found what was literally a non-event fascinating.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
Been out to dinner with the lovely lady wife, and just catching up. Mrs May isn’t the best public speaker in the world, and struggles to find her words sometimes when on her feet rather than reading a statement, but her performance in the Commons today was very good indeed, possibly the best I’ve seen her as PM.
The less said about the apologist for Assad and Putin that was sitting opposite her, the better. Hopefully Labour MPs will take the opportunity to do something about this danger to the country before he gets the chance of power.
What more can they do that they haven't already done? They've done vote of no confidence, leadership election, refused to serve, buggered an election campaign and attacked him - all but accused him of lying - in the Commons.
The only solution left is the one the Senate took with Tiberius Gracchus. I do not think that would be one we'd wish to see!
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
He described Enoch Powell/The Rivers of Blood speech as a stupid person's idea of someone clever.
To be fair, there’s little doubt that Enoch Powell was cleverer than Matthew Paris, even if he didn’t always get it right.
Even very clever people are capable of being morally stupid. Indeed it is often their Achilles heel. They are more clever, so believe themselves to be superior, and the rot starts there.
We're talking about real doctors, not non medical doctors.
The irony being of course that most medics called 'Dr' are not, in fact, real doctors like Sunil and me...
When I was working out what degree to choose for university one of the long term routes I looked at was getting a doctorate in history of physics.
Which pathway? Physics or history?
The history way, I was always fascinated by the religious history of the persecution of the likes of Copernicus.
Plus I loved physics too, really proud of my A in A Level physics.
Okaaay...
Copernicus was never actually persecuted. Indeed, his writings were accepted by the Catholic Church and Clement VII seems to have approved of them. Not until much later were they even controversial. The only attacks on him in his lifetime were by Lutherans cross he wouldn't convert.
So I am puzzled you found what was literally a non-event fascinating.
See my edit talked about Galileo too.
I was talking about the heresy of science throughout the Catholic Church.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
Yes, but we need a snappier tagline for the adverts:
"Setting up a giant complex conspiracy to enrich the illuminati? Come to the experts! Free pineapple pizza with every conspiracy"
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
Go on then.....and even better get that Finchley Road address that everyone knows is currently vacant up for a 70k annual rent. I'm sure you're so good that your business would be profitable after paying the overheads, and wouldn't mind a splurge of internet pages and YouTube videos and the like documenting in detail all the previous misdeeds there, including the small matter of Windrush Ventures Limited.
Windrush Ventures Ltd would have been an ideal company name for a business to help the poor Windrush immigration victims don't you think Tony Blair?
Caroline Nokes could be another director, she'd know very well given what her register of member's interests reveals about who she takes money from.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
Or that the supposed perpetrators are so incredibly smart as to keep their ongoings secret, yet bungle the most basic stuff outside of that.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
Or that the supposed perpetrators are so incredibly smart as to keep their ongoings secret, yet bungle the most basic stuff outside of that.
Or that conspiracy theorists always claim to be incredibly smart, but can't actually explain what misdeeds the supposedly fishy behaviour indicates, instead relying on facile comments like 'follow the money'.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
Deal.
And buy the ready made company in Finchley Road!
Let's beat them at their own game.
So the Paradise Papers and the Panama Papers investigations were complete frauds and conspiracy theories to use your language then? Funny how they can be shown to interlink into the Finchley Road network via forensic companies house documents. So nothing to see here then!
He's quite right that international law has been violated. Note May described the action as conforming to 'International norms' ie not International Law. When has it become the international norm to defy international law?
And even better, have a look at the CNN report at 29 minutes in - a reported smelling the clothes at the alleged site of the chemical weapons attack! How pathetic can you get! If you want a proper chemical weapons attack, look at the coverage of the Sarin attack on the Tokyo underground back in 1995 where no reporters were allowed anywhere near the site, and all the investigators were wearing proper full body chemical protection suits. And the sad thing given the state of mainstream media reporting today is that they think everyone will accept the official narrative unthinkingly...
I believe John Simpson reported the Halabja attack in a very similar manner.
...”no reporters were allowed...” - sometimes, no, often, you are beyond parody.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
Deal.
And buy the ready made company in Finchley Road!
Let's beat them at their own game.
So the Paradise Papers and the Panama Papers investigations were complete frauds and conspiracy theories to use your language then? Funny how they can be shown to interlink into the Finchley Road network via forensic companies house documents. So nothing to see here then!
There's nothing forensic about getting documents on companies house.
Have you never figured out that there are companies that sell shell companies?
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
This site is widely read. If you are genuinely on the track of a serious conspiracy, it is overwhelmingly likely that the conspirators will get wind of the fact from your postings here, identify you by hacking the site or blackmailing the admins, and kill you. By posting about your theories, you disprove them. Had you thought that through?
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
YouTube has a real problem with conspiracy loons nowadays. It's all incredibly half-hearted, lazy and not even internally consistent - but apparently that's all that it takes to make money, like most other clickbait.
Mr Grieve told MPs: "Having given all the material that's been sent to me the most careful consideration, I've concluded that the evidence that Dr Kelly took his own life is overwhelmingly strong.
"Further, there is nothing I've seen that supports any allegation that Dr Kelly was murdered or that his death was the subject of any kind of conspiracy or cover-up."
There was no "evidential basis" to refer the case to the High Court, he told MPs, adding that it would have been "dismissed" by judges "with what I would assume would be a certain amount of irritation".
Unbelievable scenes in the Bundesliga game between Mainz and Freiburg this evening. Mainz are awarded a penalty courtesy of a VAR decision on handball. Only problem was that the half-time whistle had already gone and most of the players were back in the changing room. They are called back out on to the pitch and Pablo de Blasis, after waiting for the Freiburg keeper to arrive, scored from the spot.
To make it even more interesting, both teams are battling against relegation and that goal could take Mainz out of the bottom three and above Freiburg. Madness. Here is how it played out, as described by Mainz themselves on Twitter...
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
I was thinking about setting up company specialising in company formations.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
I'll invest if you start it somewhere on Finchley Road.
Deal.
And buy the ready made company in Finchley Road!
Let's beat them at their own game.
So the Paradise Papers and the Panama Papers investigations were complete frauds and conspiracy theories to use your language then? Funny how they can be shown to interlink into the Finchley Road network via forensic companies house documents. So nothing to see here then!
There's nothing forensic about getting documents on companies house.
Have you never figured out that there are companies that sell shell companies?
Sure, they would say that wouldn't they....
My favourite hunchman conceit is using the middle names of politicians to suggest he is In The know...
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
My personal favourite is all the 9/11 nonsense about thermite, pre-planted explosives, remote controlled planes, a missile hitting the Pentagon, 7 WTC, holograms, disappeared passengers, and so on.
If some shady group in the CIA wanted to stage a false-flag attack like 9/11 what they'd really do is recruit someone like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and get him to propose and plan the attack within Al Qaeda. He wouldn't even need to be told they were CIA, he might think he's serving his cause.
This hypothetical false-flag 9/11 would look exactly like what actually happened, wouldn't require any techno-babble, and would be much easier to cover up. But conspiracy theorists never apply the KISS principle.
Those damn voters, why can't they just give peace a chance?
Actually I don't know what Corbyn thinks about stuff anymore, given the man of principle accepted Russia was highly likely to be behind Salisbury, and has started to roll back from that a month later.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
TSE you're quite right to say how incompetent the government are over Windrush.....but when you've got the likes of Amber Rudd and Caroline Nokes overseeing it then it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
As for Finchley Road, it wasn't the government that oversaw the vast Finchley Road network, it was people with links to the government who then co-opted MPs and members of the House of Lords as non-executive directors taking a cut for themselves whilst being tied to a massive fraud, theft and money laundering network, and hence those politicians became compromised. Again, all verifiable with a forensic examination of Companies House records.
They don't call the City of London the global centre of money laundering for nothing.
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
This site is widely read. If you are genuinely on the track of a serious conspiracy, it is overwhelmingly likely that the conspirators will get wind of the fact from your postings here, identify you by hacking the site or blackmailing the admins, and kill you. By posting about your theories, you disprove them. Had you thought that through?
Relying on simultaneous government uber-competence, and lack of competence at the same time. There must be a word for that.
He's quite right that international law has been violated. Note May described the action as conforming to 'International norms' ie not International Law. When has it become the international norm to defy international law?
.
Very normal, I should think. Nations have defended far worse and claimed it was no breach of international law.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
It's been handled very badly. When Guido Fawkes is finding fodder in the story, when there's soft Corbynite flesh to sink into elsewhere, it says something.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
Or that the supposed perpetrators are so incredibly smart as to keep their ongoings secret, yet bungle the most basic stuff outside of that.
Aha... the Wing-nut in chief...... I take it he courageously spoke up for the TRUTH in the house of commons this afternoon/evening? Or did he once again fail to do so, brave Sir Robin.
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
This site is widely read. If you are genuinely on the track of a serious conspiracy, it is overwhelmingly likely that the conspirators will get wind of the fact from your postings here, identify you by hacking the site or blackmailing the admins, and kill you. By posting about your theories, you disprove them. Had you thought that through?
People who I associate with have been threatened whilst trying to uncover this fraud. And people have been murdered such as Scott Young and Brett Kebble thank you very much. And I know people who have lost their life savings thanks to the historic Finchley Road network as well. So I have seen the very real human cost of it all. I hope those people on here who make silly flippant comments about the Finchley Road network will reflect on this post, and not be so crass and stupid going forward.
Very sensible comments from the Bolivian ambassador to the UN today at 10.30 minutes in on this video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bGyf_aKPhE
He's quite right that international law has been violated. Note May described the action as conforming to 'International norms' ie not International Law. When has it become the international norm to defy international law?
Waiting for the investigation? That was blocked by Russia, wasn't it?
When the US, France and the UK bombed the alleged sites the day before the OPCW inspectors were going to go there, I don't think we're in any position to lecture the Russians on this?
And what happened to the inconvenient findings by the independent Swiss laboratory that the nerve agent used was BZ, which fits in with Yulia Skripal's recovery, and the fact that Sergei Skripal was going to be dead within days when it was alleged that military grade Novichok was used. And Russia has never produced BZ nerve agent unlike Porton Down, that couldn't conclusively prove that it was Russia .....because they had no Russian sample of Novichok with which to compare.
You really couldn't make all this **** up could you!
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
Aha... the Wing-nut in chief...... I take it he courageously spoke up for the TRUTH in the house of commons this afternoon/evening? Or did he once again fail to do so, brave Sir Robin.
I assumed it ws hyperbole that the rally was "pro-Assad". Then I saw the pictures. Jesus Christ.
Question for PBers: which Williamson is more dangerous?
The one with the crazy views, or the one in government?
I suppose, technically, the one in government as he has more impact on things. But the other Williamson is truly a startling example of an MP. Corbyn has some positives about him, but I genuinely struggle to think of something good to say about Williamson.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
OK but what people think happened to Galileo, actually happened to Giordano Bruno.
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
This site is widely read. If you are genuinely on the track of a serious conspiracy, it is overwhelmingly likely that the conspirators will get wind of the fact from your postings here, identify you by hacking the site or blackmailing the admins, and kill you. By posting about your theories, you disprove them. Had you thought that through?
People who I associate with have been threatened whilst trying to uncover this fraud. And people have been murdered such as Scott Young and Brett Kebble thank you very much. And I know people who have lost their life savings thanks to the historic Finchley Road network as well. So I have seen the very real human cost of it all. I hope those people on here who make silly flippant comments about the Finchley Road network will reflect on this post, and not be so crass and stupid going forward.
Thank you.
Beware the Elders of Zion. They have their eye on you.
Very telling that not one of you can provide a satisfactory response to my questions on Syria.
As for Chris Williamson, i hope you all know the real reason why he resigned as the Shadow Fire Minister? And no, don't go looking anywhere in the mainstream press to find out because you simply won't find it.
Mr Williamson has a number of difficulties, not least his historic association with the UCATT trade union. Once again, follow the money.
Is it possible to provide conspiracy theorists such as yourself with satisfactory answers? I doubt it.
I go searching for the evidence and the truth by following the money. It's a shame that so many people don't bother and take their cues from an increasingly discredited mainstream media. It won't be me driving the cycle of lack of confidence in government over the next 3 years, with an enormous sovereign debt crisis (and related pensions crisis). It will be the likes of many PB'ers who have a totally misplaced confidence in the government right now, and one by one they'll see that this government has been lying to us all along over so many different things.
This site is widely read. If you are genuinely on the track of a serious conspiracy, it is overwhelmingly likely that the conspirators will get wind of the fact from your postings here, identify you by hacking the site or blackmailing the admins, and kill you. By posting about your theories, you disprove them. Had you thought that through?
People who I associate with have been threatened whilst trying to uncover this fraud. And people have been murdered such as Scott Young and Brett Kebble thank you very much. And I know people who have lost their life savings thanks to the historic Finchley Road network as well. So I have seen the very real human cost of it all. I hope those people on here who make silly flippant comments about the Finchley Road network will reflect on this post, and not be so crass and stupid going forward.
Thank you.
Beware the Elders of Zion. They have their eye on you.
Please do not bring Zionism into this. Fraud, theft and money laundering is a crime whoever carries it out. End of story.
Corbyn is getting flayed alive in the Commons: by his OWN backbenchers.
And we've never seen that before?
Honestly, foreign affairs and anti-semitism seems like its the only thing that riles up his backbenchers anymore, they know the score with the membership, and that's about all they can do.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
My other half utterly detests "To kill a mockingbird", she also studied law but wishes shed shed done something else.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
It's been handled very badly. When Guido Fawkes is finding fodder in the story, when there's soft Corbynite flesh to sink into elsewhere, it says something.
That The Sun and The Daily Mail are coming down on the government for this says it all. Even JRM is outraged by this, and supports what David Lammy is doing. Lammy has been brilliant on this issue.
It is heartwarming to see how much public support their is for the Windrush kids. I don’t know who the hell the government is attempting to win over with this nonsense.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
It's been handled very badly. When Guido Fawkes is finding fodder in the story, when there's soft Corbynite flesh to sink into elsewhere, it says something.
That The Sun and The Daily Mail are coming down on the government for this says it all. Even JRM is outraged by this, and supports what David Lammy is doing. Lammy has been brilliant on this issue.
It is heartwarming to see how much public support their is for the Windrush kids. I don’t know who the hell the government is attempting to win over with this nonsense.
It's bureaucratic stupidity. There's no political calculation involved.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
And, err, themselves. Clearly.
They're both essentially different flavours of the same Middle Eastern tale.
It's been handled very badly. When Guido Fawkes is finding fodder in the story, when there's soft Corbynite flesh to sink into elsewhere, it says something.
That The Sun and The Daily Mail are coming down on the government for this says it all. Even JRM is outraged by this, and supports what David Lammy is doing. Lammy has been brilliant on this issue.
It is heartwarming to see how much public support their is for the Windrush kids. I don’t know who the hell the government is attempting to win over with this nonsense.
No one. Their reverse ferret has been comprehensive.
Good luck seems to be one of the hitherto absent political virtues May has suddenly acquired; she is phenomenally lucky to have had Syria overshadowing the issue.
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
The strange thing about many of the old science vs religion tropes is that many of them actually originated in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century, which was meant to be the high point of scientific endeavour.
For example, how many flat-earthers were there in the Middle Ages? None, so far as can be judged. As befitted students of Aristotle, they thought the world was spherical and from the work of Eratosthenes gave them a fair idea of its size. The gorgeous irony of Columbus is he was wrong and everyone else was right. They said it was too far to sail Westward to Japan and China, he disagreed. He was wrong and would have died if he hadn't landed in Central America. But there were flat earthers in the late nineteenth century - Paul Kruger is the most famous example I can think of, but doubtless there were others. Bear in mind, his was at a time when the world trade routes relied on planets being spherical, and therefore flew in the face of all sanity. Kruger is said to have once told a mariner he couldn't have sailed around the world because the world was flat!
Similarly, on evolution, it was actually quite a widespread theory long before Darwin. Again, it was a Greek idea in rather crude form. His own uncle espoused it. What Darwin did was provide evidence for it. Bizarrely the bitterest attacks on him came not from theologians but from other scientists (how many people know that Samuel Wilberforce was a distinguished mathematician and a senior Fellow of the Royal Society)? But it also pushed more people towards biblical literalism, as did the pseudo-scholarly Draper-White conflict thesis (actually based mostly on Protestant polemics). Of course, you always had the odd idiot like James Ussher, but they achieve fame precisely because they were actually quite rare. There are far more six day creationists around now than there have ever been.
For my money all that shows is history is easily twisted by corrupt vested interest groups (the Columbus myth originated with Washington Irving but was seized on by Marxists in the 1960s and that is why it was so widely taught in schools, and is still espoused by Horrible Histories, based on the work of Terry Deary who is an avowed Marxist). Yet it is also quite amusing in its own way.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
What are you gonna do about it, whitey?
We've got to take to the hills, stockpile weapons, kill off gay donkeys, and prepare, for the showdown.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
As I said, so very smart to pull off their Nefarious Shit™, but stupid enough to bungle some of the basic stuff and get caught by YouTube warriors.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
My other half utterly detests "To kill a mockingbird", she also studied law but wishes shed shed done something else.
How can anyone detest "To Kill a Mockingbird"?? Seriously, what is there to dislike unless you are a paid up KKK member (which I have no doubt excludes your other half)?
Admittedly, I read it at an impressionable age (for 'O' level Eng Lit) but I doubt if any other book has influenced me as much.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Even that's not quite as good as Ernst Zundel, who believed the Holocaust had been faked to ensure the Nazi survivors could get on with testing UFOs from their sub-Antarctic base in peace.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
OK but what people think happened to Galileo, actually happened to Giordano Bruno.
Unfortunately even he is not a good example because he never practised anything that can be recognised as science:
It's been handled very badly. When Guido Fawkes is finding fodder in the story, when there's soft Corbynite flesh to sink into elsewhere, it says something.
That The Sun and The Daily Mail are coming down on the government for this says it all. Even JRM is outraged by this, and supports what David Lammy is doing. Lammy has been brilliant on this issue.
It is heartwarming to see how much public support their is for the Windrush kids. I don’t know who the hell the government is attempting to win over with this nonsense.
Part of the problem is the civil service. There will be officials telling them that they risk being taken to court by non-Windrush people if they make exceptions. Unfortunately, as we saw over the John Worboys case, our politicians tend to be too afraid to do the right thing and go against the civil servants.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
You have to understand that the origins of the Finchley Road network were back in 1981 and 1982 - see the incorporation documents on Companies House out of the notorious address, the incorporation documents are still there. I don't need to tell someone as clever as you that the world was a very different place 35-40 years ago without social media, internet etc. The powers that be have got away with this fraud for so long that they've become arrogant and think that they can continue to get away with it, without ever having changed their modus operandi. Just like a sports or rock star, hubris, arrogance and over confidence always brings them down in the end. Just like Lance Armstrong who couldn't resist coming back after having got away with it for so long in the 2009 tour de France, human nature is the same everywhere in different spheres of life.
There are a lot of 'interesting' Companies House documents - directors being under false names for starters.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
As I said, so very smart to pull off their Nefarious Shit™, but stupid enough to bungle some of the basic stuff and get caught by YouTube warriors.
The explanation when I asked the other day why they would be honest on Companies House forms was they don't expect anyone to look and figure it out. Right.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I mean Amber Rudd is involved in both isn't she?
That is what always gets me about conspiracy theories (which I have read far too much about, over the years). On the one hand there are these incredibly elaborate multi-decade plots to rule the world involving a cast of thousands, but they are blown wide open by a shitty out-of-focus YouTube video, or something similar.
One of my favourite ever conspiracy theories was the one that said that Barack Obama was simultaneously
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
Barack Obama, the militant atheist?
The Jews are using the Muslims as muscle, to destroy the European race.
What are you gonna do about it, whitey?
We've got to take to the hills, stockpile weapons, kill off gay donkeys, and prepare, for the showdown.
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
The strange thing about many of the old science vs religion tropes is that many of them actually originated in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century, which was meant to be the high point of scientific endeavour.
For example, how many flat-earthers were there in the Middle Ages? None, so far as can be judged. As befitted students of Aristotle, they thought the world was spherical and from the work of Eratosthenes gave them a fair idea of its size. The gorgeous irony of Columbus is he was wrong and everyone else was right. They said it was too far to sail Westward to Japan and China, he disagreed. He was wrong and would have died if he hadn't landed in Central America. But there were flat earthers in the late nineteenth century - Paul Kruger is the most famous example I can think of, but doubtless there were others. Bear in mind, his was at a time when the world trade routes relied on planets being spherical, and therefore flew in the face of all sanity. Kruger is said to have once told a mariner he couldn't have sailed around the world because the world was flat!
Similarly, on evolution, it was actually quite a widespread theory long before Darwin. Again, it was a Greek idea in rather crude form. His own uncle espoused it. What Darwin did was provide evidence for it. Bizarrely the bitterest attacks on him came not from theologians but from other scientists (how many people know that Samuel Wilberforce was a distinguished mathematician and a senior Fellow of the Royal Society)? But it also pushed more people towards biblical literalism, as did the pseudo-scholarly Draper-White conflict thesis (actually based mostly on Protestant polemics). Of course, you always had the odd idiot like James Ussher, but they achieve fame precisely because they were actually quite rare. There are far more six day creationists around now than there have ever been.
For my money all that shows is history is easily twisted by corrupt vested interest groups (the Columbus myth originated with Washington Irving but was seized on by Marxists in the 1960s and that is why it was so widely taught in schools, and is still espoused by Horrible Histories, based on the work of Terry Deary who is an avowed Marxist). Yet it is also quite amusing in its own way.
This isn't meant to sound flippant, but how many people were teaching/advocating heliocentrism in the Middle Ages?
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
As I said, so very smart to pull off their Nefarious Shit™, but stupid enough to bungle some of the basic stuff and get caught by YouTube warriors.
The explanation when I asked the other day why they would be honest on Companies House forms was they don't expect anyone to look and figure it out. Right.
Well paperwork is a very boring subject for most. And its absolutely crystal clear from your comments as well as many other PB'ers that you've never been through Companies House documents in detail, particularly those of fake oil gas and mining companies.
I would have also focussed on the Scopes Monkey trial.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
The strange thing about many of the old science vs religion tropes is that many of them actually originated in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century, which was meant to be the high point of scientific endeavour.
For example, how many flat-earthers were there in the Middle Ages? None, so far as can be judged. As befitted students of Aristotle, they thought the world was spherical and from the work of Eratosthenes gave them a fair idea of its size. The gorgeous irony of Columbus is he was wrong and everyone else was right. They said it was too far to sail Westward to Japan and China, he disagreed. He was wrong and would have died if he hadn't landed in Central America. But there were flat earthers in the late nineteenth century - Paul Kruger is the most famous example I can think of, but doubtless there were others. Bear in mind, his was at a time when the world trade routes relied on planets being spherical, and therefore flew in the face of all sanity. Kruger is said to have once told a mariner he couldn't have sailed around the world because the world was flat!
Similarly, on evolution, it was actually quite a widespread theory long before Darwin. Again, it was a Greek idea in rather crude form. His own uncle espoused it. What Darwin did was provide evidence for it. Bizarrely the bitterest attacks on him came not from theologians but from other scientists (how many people know that Samuel Wilberforce was a distinguished mathematician and a senior Fellow of the Royal Society)? But it also pushed more people towards biblical literalism, as did the pseudo-scholarly Draper-White conflict thesis (actually based mostly on Protestant polemics). Of course, you always had the odd idiot like James Ussher, but they achieve fame precisely because they were actually quite rare. There are far more six day creationists around now than there have ever been.
For my money all that shows is history is easily twisted by corrupt vested interest groups (the Columbus myth originated with Washington Irving but was seized on by Marxists in the 1960s and that is why it was so widely taught in schools, and is still espoused by Horrible Histories, based on the work of Terry Deary who is an avowed Marxist). Yet it is also quite amusing in its own way.
I love the introduction to the second edition of Origin of Species, where he lists I think 10 or 15 people who had put forward the theory of natural selection in relatively recent publications, but I don't know of any examples from "long before” Darwin. What did you have in mind?
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
You have to understand that the origins of the Finchley Road network were back in 1981 and 1982 - see the incorporation documents on Companies House out of the notorious address, the incorporation documents are still there. I don't need to tell someone as clever as you that the world was a very different place 35-40 years ago without social media, internet etc. The powers that be have got away with this fraud for so long that they've become arrogant and think that they can continue to get away with it, without ever having changed their modus operandi. Just like a sports or rock star, hubris, arrogance and over confidence always brings them down in the end. Just like Lance Armstrong who couldn't resist coming back after having got away with it for so long in the 2009 tour de France, human nature is the same everywhere in different spheres of life.
There are a lot of 'interesting' Companies House documents - directors being under false names for starters.
It's the respectable-seeming company directors who are actually lizards that you have to worry about.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
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There are a lot of 'interesting' Companies House documents - directors being under false names for starters.
It's the respectable-seeming company directors who are actually lizards that you have to worry about.
The fact that you always bring up this lizard and reptile David Icke nonsense says more about you than anybody else.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
Personally, were I to plan a world dominating conspiracy with my illuminati friends, I would choose a better HQ. Perhaps a submersible base, or a hollowed out volcano, or space station, if not the European Parliament (ever wonder why there are 2? , nudge nudge).
A shabby North London flat, bought in the Eighties is just a bit gauche for me, Dr Evil and Ernst Blofeld.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
You
There are a lot of 'interesting' Companies House documents - directors being under false names for starters.
It's the respectable-seeming company directors who are actually lizards that you have to worry about.
The fact that you always bring up this lizard and reptile David Icke nonsense says more about you than anybody else.
How come the government that can oversee that vast conspiracy at Finchley Road which only PBers are aware of can make a complete Horlicks over the Windrush generation?
I'm looking forward to finding out how a family business was involved. Was first registered at Finchley Road...
How many times do I have to tell you all that Finchley Road is the past. The action has moved on to new addresses after that all got closed down in an enormous panic at the end of February last year. And other non-Finchley Road addresses interlocked to the network got closed down too at different points last year........all verifiable by forensic companies house records. Funny that there was a massive race to slam doors shut very quickly last year if there was nothing dodgy going on don't you think?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
The bit I struggle with is this:
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
Personally, were I to plan a world dominating conspiracy with my illuminati friends, I would choose a better HQ. Perhaps a submersible base, or a hollowed out volcano, or space station, if not the European Parliament (ever wonder why there are 2? , nudge nudge).
A shabby North London flat, bought in the Eighties is just a bit gauche for me, Dr Evil and Ernst Blofeld.
Yes, but have you been to that part of (((North London)))...
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Copernicus was never actually persecuted. Indeed, his writings were accepted by the Catholic Church and Clement VII seems to have approved of them. Not until much later were they even controversial. The only attacks on him in his lifetime were by Lutherans cross he wouldn't convert.
So I am puzzled you found what was literally a non-event fascinating.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/16/russian-stocks-ruble-jump-after-report-trump-halted-further-sanctions.html?__twitter_impression=true
National voteshares could be very similar next time, but there’s a wide spread of seat results that could derive from that.
The only solution left is the one the Senate took with Tiberius Gracchus. I do not think that would be one we'd wish to see!
Good evening, everyone.
I was talking about the heresy of science throughout the Catholic Church.
Hope that makes it clear.
I was thinking of calling it PB Formations Direct.
Anyone else interested?
And thank goodness that is all in the past, although the new addresses are being chased too and hopefully will be hounded out of business too where they are engaged in fraud, theft and money laundering.
My boy Dominic Grieve played a blinder today, totally nailed Jeremy Corbyn.
To think people doubt Grieve's Toryism and patriotism.
"Setting up a giant complex conspiracy to enrich the illuminati? Come to the experts! Free pineapple pizza with every conspiracy"
Let's beat them at their own game.
Windrush Ventures Ltd would have been an ideal company name for a business to help the poor Windrush immigration victims don't you think Tony Blair?
Caroline Nokes could be another director, she'd know very well given what her register of member's interests reveals about who she takes money from.
a) A Muslim who wanted to turn America into a Muslim state
and
b) Controlled and financed by the Jews/Israel
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/985912253865218053
https://twitter.com/imix_uk/status/985922109573664768
...”no reporters were allowed...” - sometimes, no, often, you are beyond parody.
Have you never figured out that there are companies that sell shell companies?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13716127
Mr Grieve told MPs: "Having given all the material that's been sent to me the most careful consideration, I've concluded that the evidence that Dr Kelly took his own life is overwhelmingly strong.
"Further, there is nothing I've seen that supports any allegation that Dr Kelly was murdered or that his death was the subject of any kind of conspiracy or cover-up."
There was no "evidential basis" to refer the case to the High Court, he told MPs, adding that it would have been "dismissed" by judges "with what I would assume would be a certain amount of irritation".
Unbelievable scenes in the Bundesliga game between Mainz and Freiburg this evening. Mainz are awarded a penalty courtesy of a VAR decision on handball. Only problem was that the half-time whistle had already gone and most of the players were back in the changing room. They are called back out on to the pitch and Pablo de Blasis, after waiting for the Freiburg keeper to arrive, scored from the spot.
To make it even more interesting, both teams are battling against relegation and that goal could take Mainz out of the bottom three and above Freiburg. Madness. Here is how it played out, as described by Mainz themselves on Twitter...
https://twitter.com/Mainz05en/status/985961709172154368
https://twitter.com/Mainz05en/status/985962581067169794
My favourite hunchman conceit is using the middle names of politicians to suggest he is In The know...
If some shady group in the CIA wanted to stage a false-flag attack like 9/11 what they'd really do is recruit someone like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and get him to propose and plan the attack within Al Qaeda. He wouldn't even need to be told they were CIA, he might think he's serving his cause.
This hypothetical false-flag 9/11 would look exactly like what actually happened, wouldn't require any techno-babble, and would be much easier to cover up. But conspiracy theorists never apply the KISS principle.
Actually I don't know what Corbyn thinks about stuff anymore, given the man of principle accepted Russia was highly likely to be behind Salisbury, and has started to roll back from that a month later.
As for Finchley Road, it wasn't the government that oversaw the vast Finchley Road network, it was people with links to the government who then co-opted MPs and members of the House of Lords as non-executive directors taking a cut for themselves whilst being tied to a massive fraud, theft and money laundering network, and hence those politicians became compromised. Again, all verifiable with a forensic examination of Companies House records.
They don't call the City of London the global centre of money laundering for nothing.
On your earlier post, Galileo is also rather a bad example. There is a detailed account of the affair and how it has been misinterpreted in James Hannam's God's Philosophers (not sure if you've ever read that - review here) but to cut to the chase, he agreed with the Inquisition that while the science was contestable to teach it as a theory and then turned around and taught it as a fact. (Also of course he was not buried in unconsecrated ground - I did enjoy one person who made that claim and then followed up, unforgettably, with an account of how moving he found a visit to Santa Croce in Florence to see Galileo's tomb!)
"Poll: Nearly half of Britons support UK taking part in airstrikes"
https://news.sky.com/story/poll-nearly-half-of-britons-support-uk-taking-part-in-airstrikes-11333862
Thank you.
Inherit The Wind and To Kill A Mockingbird are the movies/books that got me hooked on the law at a young age.
Honestly, foreign affairs and anti-semitism seems like its the only thing that riles up his backbenchers anymore, they know the score with the membership, and that's about all they can do.
It is heartwarming to see how much public support their is for the Windrush kids. I don’t know who the hell the government is attempting to win over with this nonsense.
If I wanted to do Nefarious Shit [TM], why would I do it via company house listed entities? It's perfectly possible to set up corporate entities with limited - or non-existant - levels of public disclosure, so why use something where you have to report to Companies House? And if I was reporting to Companies House, then why not simply lie anyway: it's not like the penalties for false disclosure regarding to private companies are severe compared to those for the Nefarious Shit [TM] I was doing?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/search?q=Nefarious+Shit
Good luck seems to be one of the hitherto absent political virtues May has suddenly acquired; she is phenomenally lucky to have had Syria overshadowing the issue.
For example, how many flat-earthers were there in the Middle Ages? None, so far as can be judged. As befitted students of Aristotle, they thought the world was spherical and from the work of Eratosthenes gave them a fair idea of its size. The gorgeous irony of Columbus is he was wrong and everyone else was right. They said it was too far to sail Westward to Japan and China, he disagreed. He was wrong and would have died if he hadn't landed in Central America. But there were flat earthers in the late nineteenth century - Paul Kruger is the most famous example I can think of, but doubtless there were others. Bear in mind, his was at a time when the world trade routes relied on planets being spherical, and therefore flew in the face of all sanity. Kruger is said to have once told a mariner he couldn't have sailed around the world because the world was flat!
Similarly, on evolution, it was actually quite a widespread theory long before Darwin. Again, it was a Greek idea in rather crude form. His own uncle espoused it. What Darwin did was provide evidence for it. Bizarrely the bitterest attacks on him came not from theologians but from other scientists (how many people know that Samuel Wilberforce was a distinguished mathematician and a senior Fellow of the Royal Society)? But it also pushed more people towards biblical literalism, as did the pseudo-scholarly Draper-White conflict thesis (actually based mostly on Protestant polemics). Of course, you always had the odd idiot like James Ussher, but they achieve fame precisely because they were actually quite rare. There are far more six day creationists around now than there have ever been.
For my money all that shows is history is easily twisted by corrupt vested interest groups (the Columbus myth originated with Washington Irving but was seized on by Marxists in the 1960s and that is why it was so widely taught in schools, and is still espoused by Horrible Histories, based on the work of Terry Deary who is an avowed Marxist). Yet it is also quite amusing in its own way.
Admittedly, I read it at an impressionable age (for 'O' level Eng Lit) but I doubt if any other book has influenced me as much.
https://historyforatheists.com/2017/03/the-great-myths-3-giordano-bruno-was-a-martyr-for-science/
He was burned for Unitarianism, not science.
There are a lot of 'interesting' Companies House documents - directors being under false names for starters.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/04/16/oxford-college-cancels-cannabis-themed-party-amid-accusations/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6061944/theresa-may-syria-strikes-commons-debate-boris-johnson/
SpaceX junkie fix at 2332 bst
A shabby North London flat, bought in the Eighties is just a bit gauche for me, Dr Evil and Ernst Blofeld.