If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Depends if they want to keep their readership or not...
I'm not convinced it'd make a difference. When Rosie Boycott edited the Express it was pro-New Labour. Circulation didn't change much, it just continued its gradual slide. By definition, Express readers are perhaps the least discerning of any national newspaper.
And the surviving cast of 'Allo 'Allo were there too last year, in uniform.
A very good friend of mine from Austin, TX has a father who was a Vietnam vet. He went to one of these re-enactment events last year - and discovered that one of the Vietnam re-enactment people was being him. Not sure who was more weirded out....
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
I don't see what the Mirror group, who is hardly in rude health, see in buying up the Express and Star. Most of their value seemed to be pushing Desmond's tv channels and shows.
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Why on Earth should the legal system drop it, just because he ran away and hid for a few years? I wonder how close Ecuador are to pushing him through the door onto the street?
Maybe all the luvvies that lost their bail money will sue him too, just to add to his woes?
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
Why on Earth should the legal system drop it, just because he ran away and hid for a few years? I wonder how close Ecuador are to pushing him through the door onto the street?
Maybe all the luvvies that lost their bail money will sue him too, just to add to his woes?
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
I don't see what the Mirror group, who is hardly in rude health, see in buying up the Express and Star. Most of their value seemed to be pushing Desmond's tv channels and shows.
Fans of Princess Diana and ever-rising house prices? Edit: and cancer causes/cures.
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
Do they still have a news desk?
When did the Express last have anything approaching a scoop? That didn't have the word "pooper" preceding it?
That could easily have been predicted. I’m going to take a wild guess that the day we formally leave the political structures will be the day before they unveil a load of new financial services regulation and taxes aimed squarely at London.
I think you overestimate the ability of the EU to do things quickly.
The day we leave, they'll start the process, feverishly, and it will finally be ready two years later, just as we exit the transition...
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
Do they still have a news desk?
When did the Express last have anything approaching a scoop? That didn't have the word "pooper" preceding it?
We used to get the Express (back in John Junor's day) and the Mirror. My father and my grandmother liked the crosswords in both papers.
In TM speech today in Manchester she said for women politics can be as much about listening and learning from others than it is about broadcasting your opinions. She has a different style of politics and advised all women in politics to be youself and dont try to be like a sterotype man in order to get on but be yourself and believe in what you are doing.
This was followed by applause from her audience.
I think many underestimate how much her style resounds with the public
It was a handpicked audience, I'd be astonished if there wasn't applause.
If I was an adviser to Kim Jong May, I would be really pushing the idea of doing public events where the audience isn't all true blue supporters. Call Me Dave became very polished by regularly having to handle shouty audience members.
I know Jezza preaches to the cult, but they were open events and by doing so he (like Trump) can AB test the message.
I mean look at JRM, he seems to have got decent PR from shouty Maomentumers acting like dicks at his event.
Good job the man in the white shirt was there!!
I see he attends family dos dressed in Nazi uniform.
I see you have been in skwawkbox again...You must be their #1 visitor every day.
Its a total coincidence that you can't find that on the front page of the Daily Mail website, but it is the top story on skwawkbox, just like every other post you make.
BJO has been fighting a lost cause on this. JRM came out of it a winner and momentum members wearing balaclavas were exposd together with the leaders girlfriend
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
Do they still have a news desk?
When did the Express last have anything approaching a scoop? That didn't have the word "pooper" preceding it?
If Trinity Mirror does eventually take over Express Newspapers, will its political stance coverage change ?
Eventually/gradually.
My prediction, by 2021 The Express will be campaigning for us to rejoin the EU.
That will be when they have less readers than the Guardian, if newspapers still exist then...
I'm fairly certain in 2000 The Express were supporting our membership of the single currency.
That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
I have to say I never quite understand what demographic the Express caters for...if you want tittle tattle, the Currant Bun or Mirror, if you want tittle tattle and right wing politics, the Mail, if you want Royal Conspiracy Theories, tittle tattle and right wing politics, The Express?
Express caters for those with a keen eye on extreme weather
Statins, weather, pensions, Brexit and Princess Diana.
Do they still have a news desk?
When did the Express last have anything approaching a scoop? That didn't have the word "pooper" preceding it?
I've always thought of the Express as the right's mad, racist Auntie.
That could easily have been predicted. I’m going to take a wild guess that the day we formally leave the political structures will be the day before they unveil a load of new financial services regulation and taxes aimed squarely at London.
... and formally start inspecting all delivery lorries returning to the EU after delivering food supplies. Slow down the supply chain and starve us into submission. We'll be digging for victory before we know it.
That could easily have been predicted. I’m going to take a wild guess that the day we formally leave the political structures will be the day before they unveil a load of new financial services regulation and taxes aimed squarely at London.
... and formally start inspecting all delivery lorries returning to the EU after delivering food supplies. Slow down the supply chain and starve us into submission. We'll be digging for victory before we know it.
You're way behind the curve. I've already planted quinoa in my windowbox in readiness for the lean years.
(I say that because my record of predictions is so poor, that my saying it will not happen means it almost certainly will. But does acknowledging that fact jinx it, so it now won't happen?)
Why is being in the former grouping such an insult?
It implies that they somehow don't care about their country at all or as much as the other group. And that is not fair. Some may not - the Philip Greens of this world, for instance, people who view a country as somewhere to do business but not somewhere they pay taxes - but being cosmopolitan does not make you someone who does not care about the country they live in.
And there is also an unpleasant sub-text to the rootless cosmopolitan meme, which I'm sure I don't need to spell out to you.
But it is a step further than that to say one is a citizen of the world. That is not just being cosmopolitan. I am sure that I am just as cosmopolitan as you if judged by how far i have travelled, the languages I speak and my view if the people's of the world. But to go further than that and claim one is a citizen of the world is to make the implicit claim.that one no longer regards oneself as a citizen of the country of their birth. On that basis May was absolutely right to regard such people as having chosen to turn their backs on their country.
It is odd though. Some of those in favour of Brexit want Britain to be open to the world not just stuck with the EU, the former being seen as a good thing.
And yet if some of its citizens also want to be open to the world, then that is seen as a bad thing.
It is very confusing.
And, yet, you yourself wrote a thread header (or at the very least a lengthy comment) arguing that the "citizens of nowhere" meme did have merit as a political point. IIRC it revolved around those who took a lofty detached view of their obligations as citizens at a transient "global" level whilst taking advantage of the benefits of living in the UK (or, at its worst, doing that and sneering at it) but failing to appreciate it was that State that protected them with its laws, justice system, police force, and defence forces, much of which is provided and paid for by its everyday citizens.
I think you're just playing Devil's advocate, and venting a bit.
A lawyer, playing Devil's advocate. The very idea!
It is possible to criticise those who take advantage of what the state provides them without wishing to fulfil their obligations to that state while at the same time saying that people who have a cosmopolitan outward view of themselves in the world should not be seen as somehow hating their country. I would classify myself, for instance, as the latter: I love this country but have a British and European identity and intensely dislike the Faragist view of Britain and its place in the world.
The trial of three former Tesco executives charged with fraud and false accounting has been abandoned. The Serious Fraud Office will decide in early March whether to pursue a re-trial.
TBF to the SFO it is a bugger when one of the defendants has a heart attack mid trial.
As an aside there is a school of thought that say complex financial crimes trials should be done without a jury.
They are far too long and complex for most ordinary people to sit on a jury.
I profoundly disagree. Having done the UK's biggest fraud trial I think juries are absolutely the right people to assess whether someone is dishonest or not. They can see right through all the technical stuff to the heart of the matter. Is this person honest?
That could easily have been predicted. I’m going to take a wild guess that the day we formally leave the political structures will be the day before they unveil a load of new financial services regulation and taxes aimed squarely at London.
... and formally start inspecting all delivery lorries returning to the EU after delivering food supplies. Slow down the supply chain and starve us into submission. We'll be digging for victory before we know it.
You're way behind the curve. I've already planted quinoa in my windowbox in readiness for the lean years.
I don't plan on commenting, in blogs, on the grid girls/kids/gnomes nonsense any further, unless something significant occurs.
That’s a good piece, I agree with you that the biggest known unknown is the performance of the Renault engine.
Current markets seem to have the Mercedes > Ferrari > Renault > Honda power unit running order maintained for next season, hence the Renault users are currently good value.
That could easily have been predicted. I’m going to take a wild guess that the day we formally leave the political structures will be the day before they unveil a load of new financial services regulation and taxes aimed squarely at London.
I think you overestimate the ability of the EU to do things quickly.
The day we leave, they'll start the process, feverishly, and it will finally be ready two years later, just as we exit the transition...
If they wanted to be pissy, they could, for example, suspend the single air aviation agreement quite quickly. I don't expect the backbench usual suspects will be quite as sanguine as you on this.
Mr. 1000, not au fait with such things, but sounds a little similar to the vicious cycle of silver price declines that happened when some chap or other (brothers?) stockpiled a lot and the price went down, which forced them to sell some off, further depressing the price. Eventually it reached the 'right' level.
Nelson Bunker Hunt?
The Hunt brothers, multi billionaires, back in the early 1980's hit upon the idea of buying all the available silver on the world market. This forced the price of silver up, and due to the multiplier effect, on both gold and platinum. I suspect that the Hunt's had just planned on new and reserve silver, what they hadn't anticipated was people digging out the family silverware and flogging it off for scrap. They did not have enough money to buy it all, and went bankrupt. The precious metal prices collapsed.
The EU must suspect we are going to go all French on them during the transition - and not actually give a flying fuck about the consequences of ignoring them....
The trial of three former Tesco executives charged with fraud and false accounting has been abandoned. The Serious Fraud Office will decide in early March whether to pursue a re-trial.
TBF to the SFO it is a bugger when one of the defendants has a heart attack mid trial.
As an aside there is a school of thought that say complex financial crimes trials should be done without a jury.
They are far too long and complex for most ordinary people to sit on a jury.
I profoundly disagree. Having done the UK's biggest fraud trial I think juries are absolutely the right people to assess whether someone is dishonest or not. They can see right through all the technical stuff to the heart of the matter. Is this person honest?
So, basically the most important thing is to look honest.
I wonder if good/honest looking people are more likely to be acquitted.
The trial of three former Tesco executives charged with fraud and false accounting has been abandoned. The Serious Fraud Office will decide in early March whether to pursue a re-trial.
TBF to the SFO it is a bugger when one of the defendants has a heart attack mid trial.
As an aside there is a school of thought that say complex financial crimes trials should be done without a jury.
They are far too long and complex for most ordinary people to sit on a jury.
I profoundly disagree. Having done the UK's biggest fraud trial I think juries are absolutely the right people to assess whether someone is dishonest or not. They can see right through all the technical stuff to the heart of the matter. Is this person honest?
So, basically the most important thing is to look honest.
No. Fraudsters are, in my experience, very good bullshitters. And they believe their own propaganda. So they go into the witness box thinking they can pull another fast one. And they get found out.
If they wanted to be pissy, they could, for example, suspend the single air aviation agreement quite quickly. I don't expect the backbench usual suspects will be quite as sanguine as you on this.
Tony Blair did warn that the Tories' Euroscepticism would turn Britain into the "eunuch" of the EU...
In TM speech today in Manchester she said for women politics can be as much about listening and learning from others than it is about broadcasting your opinions. She has a different style of politics and advised all women in politics to be youself and dont try to be like a sterotype man in order to get on but be yourself and believe in what you are doing.
This was followed by applause from her audience.
I think many underestimate how much her style resounds with the public
It was a handpicked audience, I'd be astonished if there wasn't applause.
You really have such a bias against her
I'm stating a fact.
I've been right about Mrs May.
Time alone will tell - she has many faults but does seem to have quite a bit of public support. I accept she will go in time but name anyone who could command wider support just now
The very low profit margins achieved on public contracts by Carillion and Capita demonstrate how poor they are at negotiating contracts with the government sector, contrary to what Colin Crouch of Warwick Business School argues.
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That was when they were owned by Labour peer Lord Hollick.
The readers are used to major editorial shifts.
https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/960896625299386369
I don't see what the Mirror group, who is hardly in rude health, see in buying up the Express and Star. Most of their value seemed to be pushing Desmond's tv channels and shows.
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/960880895598178304
Maybe all the luvvies that lost their bail money will sue him too, just to add to his woes?
When did the Express last have anything approaching a scoop? That didn't have the word "pooper" preceding it?
The day we leave, they'll start the process, feverishly, and it will finally be ready two years later, just as we exit the transition...
Con 41% (nc)
Lab 40% (-1)
LD 8% (+1)
UKIP 4% (nc)
Greens 3% (nc)
SNP 3% (nc)
Follow link to see what we are throwing away.
(I say that because my record of predictions is so poor, that my saying it will not happen means it almost certainly will. But does acknowledging that fact jinx it, so it now won't happen?)
It is possible to criticise those who take advantage of what the state provides them without wishing to fulfil their obligations to that state while at the same time saying that people who have a cosmopolitan outward view of themselves in the world should not be seen as somehow hating their country. I would classify myself, for instance, as the latter: I love this country but have a British and European identity and intensely dislike the Faragist view of Britain and its place in the world.
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/early-pre-season-musings.html
I don't plan on commenting, in blogs, on the grid girls/kids/gnomes nonsense any further, unless something significant occurs.
Volatility maxed out
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/06/brexit-eu-power-punish-uk-transition-period-sanctions
Sorry... T' EeeeRG.
Current markets seem to have the Mercedes > Ferrari > Renault > Honda power unit running order maintained for next season, hence the Renault users are currently good value.
I wonder if good/honest looking people are more likely to be acquitted.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/jul/10/uk.eu
NEW THREAD
http://www.spacex.com/webcast
Now when I see Michael Gove, I remember to start with C things he said, V cock-ups he's made...
The very low profit margins achieved on public contracts by Carillion and Capita demonstrate how poor they are at negotiating contracts with the government sector, contrary to what Colin Crouch of Warwick Business School argues.