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MarqueeMark

Spoff.

JohnLoony

Of course it's a spoof. Only 3 hours ago I wrote on Twitter that I was beginning to think that Michael Fabricant tramping across Birmingham was almost as epic as Liz Truss going to Beijing to open up new pork markets.

TheScreamingEagles

She's also following me on twitter too.

A few members of the cabinet/MPs follow me too. :Humblebrag:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

dr_spyn

Truss for leader march.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVYS4uw0as

FrancisUrquhart

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Scott_P

Is she less credible than Corbyn?

Oh...

Freggles

Where does she stand on cheese though?

TheScreamingEagles

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

There's one obvious solution.

Home made porn.

Sandpit

Any of our legal friends seen the actual judgement on this one, and is it significant?
“Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2014 ruled unlawful by court of appeal”
https://theintercept.com/2018/01/30/u-k-court-finds-governments-surveillance-law-unlawful/

tlg86

I thought this was a serious website.

williamglenn

TheScreamingEagles said:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

There's only room for one Liz?

kle4

I can imagine many spoof campaigns being started, and one or two among them, quite surprisingly, turning genuine.

TheScreamingEagles

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

There's only room for one Liz?

Yup, the country has only room for one Queen Bee as it were.

stodge

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

TheScreamingEagles

I know I'm biased but Paul Pogba is seriously overrated.

£89 million?

TheJezziah

With one or two of the crazier Tory's it would be hard to tell the difference between spoof and reality, the line can be quite thin at times.

FrancisUrquhart

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

That been said, I am surprised they haven't come to the UK though. Although maybe they got cold feet after the likes of Cinnabon failed miserably.

Dairy Queen is another US chain I am surprised nobody has tried here.

brendan16

I like the slogans:

Truss in a better future.

Liz knows what the public thinks. Liz knows what the public wants

Our Liz is a modern Pioneer of British freedom!

Emily Thornberry hashtag deadbore!

Women voters will wear Truss!

Truss no one?

Sandpit

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

Burgerfuel and Cheesecake Factory are both huge franchised brands in the Middle East, queues outside their mall restaurants all the time, food is okay but nothing really special.

rpjs

FrancisUrquhart said:

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

That been said, I am surprised they haven't come to the UK though. Although maybe they got cold feet after the likes of Cinnabon failed miserably.

Dairy Queen is another US chain I am surprised nobody has tried here.

Can you still get Auntie Annie's Pretzels in the UK?

kle4

brendan16 said:

I like the slogans:

Truss in a better future.

Liz knows what the public thinks. Liz knows what the public wants

Our Liz is a modern Pioneer of British freedom!

Emily Thornberry hashtag deadbore!

Women voters will wear Truss!

Truss no one?

'Truss no one else', surely>

Foxy

FrancisUrquhart said:

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

That been said, I am surprised they haven't come to the UK though. Although maybe they got cold feet after the likes of Cinnabon failed miserably.

Dairy Queen is another US chain I am surprised nobody has tried here.

Cinnabon are horribly sweet. As bad as Krispy Kreme which is an astonishingly bad quality product.

FrancisUrquhart

Foxy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

That been said, I am surprised they haven't come to the UK though. Although maybe they got cold feet after the likes of Cinnabon failed miserably.

Dairy Queen is another US chain I am surprised nobody has tried here.

Cinnabon are horribly sweet. As bad as Krispy Kreme which is an astonishingly bad quality product.

I have to say I am always really surprised that Krispy Kreme has got a foothold in the UK market. They are not only piss poor doughnuts, they are bloody expensive for what they are.

But then, once you have had Voodoo Doughnuts (from Portland), everything is downhill from there.

stodge

FrancisUrquhart said:

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

My first experience of the Cheesecake Factory was in Honolulu and I've also eaten in their branches in San Francisco and Las Vegas so possibly atypical but always found them very good.

Their offshoot is the Grand Lux Café which is in The Venetian and is a 24-hour establishment. We once flew in from London and were staying in the Palazzo. The flight was long and we fell asleep in the hotel without unpacking waking at 2.30am starving. I remembered the Grand Lux and after sorting ourselves out we got there at 3am.

I walked up to the Host and said "table for two" and he looked me up and down and said "no problem, sir, which menu would you like ?" That stopped me dead in my tracks until he asked if we wanted the Breakfast menu or the Dinner menu.

That presented me with a poser - which is the correct option at 3am - breakfast or dinner ? Mrs Stodge went for dinner, I went for breakfast. After that, it was a morning walk down the Strip - delightful.

FrancisUrquhart

rpjs said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

I was with you until you said the Cheesecake Factory.....I remember first going to the one in central Chicago 15 years ago and it was very good, however like so many of these chains they have now expanded rapidly and notorious in the US for dodgy customer service.

That been said, I am surprised they haven't come to the UK though. Although maybe they got cold feet after the likes of Cinnabon failed miserably.

Dairy Queen is another US chain I am surprised nobody has tried here.

Can you still get Auntie Annie's Pretzels in the UK?

I believe so.

Foxy

Leicester back in the game.

Chelsea and ManU, oh dear..

FrancisUrquhart

Who thought it was a good idea to schedule a full round of EPL games on transfer deadline evening?

stodge

Sandpit said:

Burgerfuel and Cheesecake Factory are both huge franchised brands in the Middle East, queues outside their mall restaurants all the time, food is okay but nothing really special.

I wouldn't know but it's always been my experience a restaurant chain is best on its home territory and better still closest to its point of origin.

I know there's a Bubba Gump in London but I've tried it in Los Angeles and Vegas and fear it will be a watered down version (in almost every sense). Perhaps your experiences of Burgerfuel and Chhesecake Factory reflect the franchising option.

MarkHopkins

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

DavidL

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know I'm biased but Paul Pogba is seriously overrated.

£89 million?

So poor tonight Mourinho has taken him off.

TheScreamingEagles

DavidL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know I'm biased but Paul Pogba is seriously overrated.

£89 million?

So poor tonight Mourinho has taken him off.

He's a rich man's Fellani

Foxy

DavidL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know I'm biased but Paul Pogba is seriously overrated.

£89 million?

So poor tonight Mourinho has taken him off.

Diabate for Leicester at ? £4 million looks a bargain.

Rhubarb

brendan16 said:

I like the slogans:

Truss in a better future.

Liz knows what the public thinks. Liz knows what the public wants

Our Liz is a modern Pioneer of British freedom!

Emily Thornberry hashtag deadbore!

Women voters will wear Truss!

Truss no one?

Truss: Support You Can Count On.

Scott_P

stodge said:

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

Going to the Cheesecake Factory for a meal is fine. Yeah, it’s a little ostentatious and the dome on top of the restaurant always seemed a little out of place, and OK, the menu is ridiculously long and needlessly complicated. But it’s OK, because the food is good enough. And sometimes, that’s enough of a reason to patronize a chain restaurant if your creative juices have been consumed by your hunger pains.

Twitter user @MaxKriegerVG, though, believes we need a true breakdown of the Cheesecake Factory’s exterior and interior architecture choices, the menu’s obtuseness, and what the restaurant thinks you should experience. And thank goodness for Krieger, because he’s woken us up to this reality.

The Cheesecake Factory is a goddamn nightmare.

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cheesecake-factory-twitter-breakdown/

DavidL

stodge said:

Evening all

As usual, late to the debate because I have a life.

The best burgers I've ever had have not been in the UK - Mrs Stodge and I sampled Five Guys at Bluewater at the weekend. The bacon cheese burger was a decent effort for the money but only that. Indeed Mrs Stodge wasn't that happy with the patty though the milkshakes were top notch.

For quality burgers, one has to go much further afield. Red Robin in the US is superb and we've twice enjoyed an outdoor evening dining experience in Palm Springs - cur The Killers soundtrack.

The best burger I've ever heard was from Burgerfuel, a NZ chain, by the shores of Lake Taupo. They don't yet have a presence in the UK but IF they come they will be huge.

Another food chain which needs to come to the UK is the Cheesecake Factory.

The Cheesecake Factory is fantastic.

SandyRentool

Has someone been inspired by #Priti4Leader and #Esther4Leader?

And didn't we have Lizardpeople and Lizbians in the 2015 Labour leadership election?

Pulpstar

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

More traffic for the hamster

DavidL

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know I'm biased but Paul Pogba is seriously overrated.

£89 million?

So poor tonight Mourinho has taken him off.

He's a rich man's Fellani

When he's good he's really good. Not tonight though. He needs a more defensive midfielder alongside so that he can play further forward and be more creative.

Sandpit

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

AlastairMeeks

Not exactly the best thread for a dieter to skim through.

tlg86

Fellaini taken off after 8 minutes. That is hilarious.

FrancisUrquhart

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

You mean people still access the internet without a VPN....I would never even entertain the idea of using any public internet without a VPN. You are more likely to catch something than a weekend sampling the knocking shops of Amsterdam.

Casino_Royale

This thread is a disgrace.

stodge

Scott_P said:

<
The Cheesecake Factory is a goddamn nightmare.

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cheesecake-factory-twitter-breakdown/

Lovely piece thanks Scott.

When we are in Vegas we tend not to eat dinner at the Cheesecake Factory. We'll have breakfast at the Grand Lux before 7am when it's quiet and have always found it wonderful and get cheesecake from the Cheesecake factory in Caesars Palace.

We just find the Grand Lux in the Palazzo a supremely civilised place to start - it's not the best breakfast in Vegas but it's very good.

Foxy

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Yes, should focus on the Amol takeaway on the Welford rd. 10 samosas for a £3 and a chile paneer to die for...

TheJezziah

Surely they aren't going to be filter it all out anyway?

Asking for a lazy friend who doesn't want to learn how to use a VPN.

ydoethur

MarkHopkins said:

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

It's a hard problem and a totally avoidable cock-up.

People will tell stiff lies about their viewing habits.

Theresa May's government climaxed prematurely.

I'm too tired to think of any other puns.

stodge

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

What's your problem ?

SandyRentool

stodge said:

Scott_P said:

<
The Cheesecake Factory is a goddamn nightmare.

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cheesecake-factory-twitter-breakdown/

Lovely piece thanks Scott.

When we are in Vegas we tend not to eat dinner at the Cheesecake Factory. We'll have breakfast at the Grand Lux before 7am when it's quiet and have always found it wonderful and get cheesecake from the Cheesecake factory in Caesars Palace.

We just find the Grand Lux in the Palazzo a supremely civilised place to start - it's not the best breakfast in Vegas but it's very good.

Alternatively, in Cas Vegas you can have breakfast in Wetherspoons with a top-up snack from Greggs later in the day.

If it is gambling you are after, there are a few bookies in town with fixed odds machines you can play.

HYUFD

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

HYUFD

TheScreamingEagles said:

She's also following me on twitter too.

A few members of the cabinet/MPs follow me too. :Humblebrag:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

That alone would make her ineligible given almost 90% of Tory voters are monarchists.

In any case Truss was only a republican in her Lib Dem days, now she is a Tory she never mentions it

edmundintokyo

I just googled her up and saw the pork markets clip and I'm sold.

FrancisUrquhart

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

As they only have to collect info in this way for UK users, if you use a VPN and appear from another country I am going to guess they won't require you to sign up to this AgeID scheme.

stodge

SandyRentool said:

Alternatively, in Cas Vegas you can have breakfast in Wetherspoons with a top-up snack from Greggs later in the day.

If it is gambling you are after, there are a few bookies in town with fixed odds machines you can play.

To be honest, that's true of every High Street in this country, including East Ham.

This is why I do my gambling in Vegas.

Anazina

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

She's also following me on twitter too.

A few members of the cabinet/MPs follow me too. :Humblebrag:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

That alone would make her ineligible given almost 90% of Tory voters are monarchists

Liz'll Learn 'Em

MarkHopkins

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Richard_Tyndall

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

TheScreamingEagles

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0M1YEf9s0g

williamglenn

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wkO4hk07o

Foxy

ydoethur said:

MarkHopkins said:

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

It's a hard problem and a totally avoidable cock-up.

People will tell stiff lies about their viewing habits.

Theresa May's government climaxed prematurely.

I'm too tired to think of any other puns.

On that note, Rachel Riley has had a hard day at the office...

https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/958772157932363776

HYUFD

Anazina said:

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

She's also following me on twitter too.

A few members of the cabinet/MPs follow me too. :Humblebrag:

On topic, it'll be great if the next Tory Leader/PM is a republican like Ms Truss.

That alone would make her ineligible given almost 90% of Tory voters are monarchists

Liz'll Learn 'Em

As a LD former republican I would say Anna Soubry has a better chance of being the next Tory leader than Truss

TheScreamingEagles

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

HYUFD

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Sandpit

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

MarkHopkins said:

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

It's a hard problem and a totally avoidable cock-up.

People will tell stiff lies about their viewing habits.

Theresa May's government climaxed prematurely.

I'm too tired to think of any other puns.

On that note, Rachel Riley has had a hard day at the office...

ttps://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/958772157932363776

From the late night comedy version, surely?

rpjs

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

As Doonesbury pointed out at the weekend, you can do a lot if you're an autocracy.

FrancisUrquhart

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Fake News...

https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/post/vpn-in-china-still-not-illegal/

Those that get in serious trouble in China over VPNs are to do with selling "unlicensed services" in which they have lied to the state about what their business is really doing i.e. they didn't pay off the right Chinese official.

Use of sanctioned VPNs is widespread within Chinese businesses and it is very easy for ex-pats to get access to a service.

another_richard

TheScreamingEagles said:

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

I don't think any of us have a high opinion on Williamson but why should anyone care about this.

Aren't politicians all assumed to be b******s in any case ?

Richard_Tyndall

williamglenn said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wkO4hk07o

Ah. Ta. Not seen that before. It is a strange comment.

HYUFD

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Fake News...

https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/post/vpn-in-china-still-not-illegal/

A man was recently jailed for 5 years in China for selling VPN services without a license
https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/chinese-vpn-owner-jailed-for-5-and-a-half-years/

Only government regulated VPNs are allowed, use of other VPNs is banned

FrancisUrquhart

HYUFD said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Fake News...

https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/post/vpn-in-china-still-not-illegal/

A man was recently jailed for 5 years in China for selling VPN services without a license
https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/chinese-vpn-owner-jailed-for-5-and-a-half-years/

Only government regulated VPNs are allowed, use of other VPNs is banned

As I said, he was selling the service, an unlicensed one....not using a service. Chinese business wouldn't function without the licensed VPNs.

Read the link, the western media have misreported the rules. And I have heard ex-pat in China that speak the language fluently also say this.

HYUFD

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Fake News...

https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/post/vpn-in-china-still-not-illegal/

A man was recently jailed for 5 years in China for selling VPN services without a license
https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/chinese-vpn-owner-jailed-for-5-and-a-half-years/

Only government regulated VPNs are allowed, use of other VPNs is banned

As I said, he was selling the service, an unlicensed one....not using a service.

He was selling the service which was banned from being used. Licensed VPNs only get a license for a reason ie they are not to be used for non state approved activities

ThomasNashe

TheScreamingEagles said:

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

Well, as political careers go that 'rise and fall' trajectory was a little on the short side.

TheScreamingEagles

another_richard said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

I don't think any of us have a high opinion on Williamson but why should anyone care about this.

Aren't politicians all assumed to be b******s in any case ?

In the post Harvey Weinstein/MeToo era any bloke trying it on with a subordinate is going to be held to a higher standard.

It appears Mr Williamson was economical with the truth about his departure.

ThomasNashe

Richard_Tyndall said:

williamglenn said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wkO4hk07o

Ah. Ta. Not seen that before. It is a strange comment.

If you watch the speech as a whole she comes across as a touch deranged.

MarkHopkins

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Aspiring to be like China?

FrancisUrquhart

What a weird transfer...

21:50 Ben Stevenson [Coventry - Wolves] Undisclosed
21:50 Ben Stevenson [Wolves - Colchester] Loan

Buy youngster from League Two, immediately loan said youngster to a different League Two club. Why not buy him and have him remain with his existing team for the rest of the season?

SandyRentool

Deleted

TheScreamingEagles

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

MarkHopkins said:

HYUFD said:

Sandpit said:

MarkHopkins said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

Perhaps it's this which will bring TMay down. Millions of adults will suddenly find themselves having to self-identify as porn uses or learn how to use VPNs.

I saw a survey that said 54% of people thought the law was a bad idea; that's more than voted for Brexit.

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

All it’s going to do is teach every teenage boy in the country about VPNs, DNS and proxy servers, so in the future everything everyone does online will be encrypted in a way that the government can’t look at it - and the next generation will just think it’s normal.

Massive law of unintended consequences, the genie is already way outside the bottle.

A VPN may make it more difficult for the government to see what you have viewed but Pornhub will still have your data on record as a requirement of accessing the site

A VPN will make it look like you are in another country, so porn sites won't be asking for your details in the first place.

Of course in a decade or two most nations may follow China's lead and ban use of VPNs if they increase in use to circumvent the law, or at least require a license to use VPN systems.

In China you can be jailed for using a VPN

Aspiring to be like China?

Better than turning Japanese.

Ahem.

Foxy

Sandpit said:

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

MarkHopkins said:

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

It's a hard problem and a totally avoidable cock-up.

People will tell stiff lies about their viewing habits.

Theresa May's government climaxed prematurely.

I'm too tired to think of any other puns.

On that note, Rachel Riley has had a hard day at the office...

ttps://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/958772157932363776

From the late night comedy version, surely?

It seems to be her genuine account.

ThomasNashe

FrancisUrquhart said:

What a weird transfer...

21:50 Ben Stevenson [Coventry - Wolves] Undisclosed
21:50 Ben Stevenson [Wolves - Colchester] Loan

Buy youngster from League Two, immediately loan said youngster to a different League Two club. Why not buy him and have him remain with his existing team for the rest of the season?

More dosh for his agent.

Casino_Royale

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0M1YEf9s0g

At least someone got it.

edmundintokyo

ThomasNashe said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

williamglenn said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wkO4hk07o

Ah. Ta. Not seen that before. It is a strange comment.

If you watch the speech as a whole she comes across as a touch deranged.

All government speeches since Brexit come across as deranged but at least she seems enthusiastic about it.

FrancisUrquhart

HYUFD said:

He was selling the service which was banned from being used. Licensed VPNs only get a license for a reason ie they are not to be used for non state approved activities

You said you can be jailed in China for using a VPN...that is fake news, there is no law against it. Read the link, with the original Chinese government text.

You linked to a case of somebody running an unlicensed business which was lying to the government and got jailed for it.

That isn't an individual using a VPN for personal use.

Sunil_Prasannan

In God we Truss!

Danny565

Watching the News, and goodness me - Mrs May is painfully awkward and nervous even when doing something as simple as small talk with some Chinese schoolkids.

another_richard

TheScreamingEagles said:

another_richard said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

I don't think any of us have a high opinion on Williamson but why should anyone care about this.

Aren't politicians all assumed to be b******s in any case ?

In the post Harvey Weinstein/MeToo era any bloke trying it on with a subordinate is going to be held to a higher standard.

It appears Mr Williamson was economical with the truth about his departure.

As long as its nothing trivial such as the alleged rape and cover up by senior people in the Labour party.

Danny565

edmundintokyo said:

ThomasNashe said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

williamglenn said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Casino_Royale said:

This thread is a disgrace.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wkO4hk07o

Ah. Ta. Not seen that before. It is a strange comment.

If you watch the speech as a whole she comes across as a touch deranged.

All government speeches since Brexit come across as deranged but at least she seems enthusiastic about it.

Wasn't the Cheese Speech made before Brexit? 2014, I think....

FrancisUrquhart

ThomasNashe said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

What a weird transfer...

21:50 Ben Stevenson [Coventry - Wolves] Undisclosed
21:50 Ben Stevenson [Wolves - Colchester] Loan

Buy youngster from League Two, immediately loan said youngster to a different League Two club. Why not buy him and have him remain with his existing team for the rest of the season?

More dosh for his agent.

Its completely bonkers. Coventry isn't far from Wolverhampton. He could even train some of the time with Wolves and play for Coventry. Instead they are going to relocate him over the other side of the country to play at the same standard of football. I bet the player is well pleased.

HYUFD

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

He was selling the service which was banned from being used. Licensed VPNs only get a license for a reason ie they are not to be used for non state approved activities

You said you can be jailed in China for using a VPN...that is fake news, there is no law against it. Read the link, with the original Chinese government text.

You linked to a case of somebody running an unlicensed business which was lying to the government and got jailed for it.

That isn't an individual using a VPN for personal use.

If you sell an unlicensed VPN in China you can be jailed and use of unlicensed VPNs for personal use is banned

FrancisUrquhart

HYUFD said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

He was selling the service which was banned from being used. Licensed VPNs only get a license for a reason ie they are not to be used for non state approved activities

You said you can be jailed in China for using a VPN...that is fake news, there is no law against it. Read the link, with the original Chinese government text.

You linked to a case of somebody running an unlicensed business which was lying to the government and got jailed for it.

That isn't an individual using a VPN for personal use.

If you sell an unlicensed VPN you can be jailed and use of unlicensed VPNs is banned

Head desk bang...just admit you post something that was factually incorrect, it isn't hard, nobody will think any less of you.

Also the reality of the situation in China is that anybody who really wants a VPN can get one and as it isn't illegal won't be going to jail. The issue seems to be more than from time to time the government will block one service or another / slow it right down, so most people have to subscribe to 2-3 to ensure they always have an internet connection (which for many normal Chinese people is a lot of money and not worth it).

Sandpit

Foxy said:

Sandpit said:

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

MarkHopkins said:

I'm not pro-porn, but the simple reality is that Pandora's Box has been opened, and everyone has had a good look, and TMay thinks she can just shut it again.

It's a hard problem and a totally avoidable cock-up.

People will tell stiff lies about their viewing habits.

Theresa May's government climaxed prematurely.

I'm too tired to think of any other puns.

On that note, Rachel Riley has had a hard day at the office...

ttps://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/958772157932363776

From the late night comedy version, surely?

It seems to be her genuine account.

Yes, but there’s the regular daytime show and also an after-the-watershed show that has everyone except Rachel and Susie replaced with comedians. Somewhat more innuendo in the latter version.

Sean_F

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

We should have a National Register of Suspected Onanists.

another_richard

If we're continuing the fast food discussion can I put a word in for the PoundBakery.

You can get two, that's two, pasties or pies for either a quid or £1.30 and they're pretty damn good as well.

http://www.poundbakery.co.uk/from-the-bakery/

TheScreamingEagles

Sean_F said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

We should have a National Register of Suspected Onanists.

I believe that already exists.

Is known as UKIP membership list.

*Innocent Face*

another_richard

Sean_F said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

We should have a National Register of Suspected Onanists.

With video surveillance ?

Sean_F

TheScreamingEagles said:

another_richard said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I smell toast.

https://twitter.com/syalrajeev/status/958753836113514497

I don't think any of us have a high opinion on Williamson but why should anyone care about this.

Aren't politicians all assumed to be b******s in any case ?

In the post Harvey Weinstein/MeToo era any bloke trying it on with a subordinate is going to be held to a higher standard.

It appears Mr Williamson was economical with the truth about his departure.

In this era, sexual intercourse between men and women is viewed with suspicion.

FrancisUrquhart

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sean_F said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I can't imagine there is going to be any problems in the future with this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336627/Pornhub-ask-porn-users-names-addresses.html

We should have a National Register of Suspected Onanists.

I believe that already exists.

Is known as UKIP membership list.

*Innocent Face*

But it is hard to know who they really are, as everybody lies on their membership forms.

ThomasNashe

another_richard said:

If we're continuing the fast food discussion can I put a word in for the PoundBakery.

You can get two, that's two, pasties or pies for either a quid or £1.30 and they're pretty damn good as well.

http://www.poundbakery.co.uk/from-the-bakery/

Do they have a branch in South Kensington?

FrancisUrquhart

another_richard said:

If we're continuing the fast food discussion can I put a word in for the PoundBakery.

You can get two, that's two, pasties or pies for either a quid or £1.30 and they're pretty damn good as well.

http://www.poundbakery.co.uk/from-the-bakery/

Kinda of like Greggs, before they went mass market :-)

Apparently Gregg is offering valentines dinners in select locations. I somehow feel Mrs Urquhart might not be best pleased if I booked a table for 2....

HYUFD

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

HYUFD said:

He was selling the service which was banned from being used. Licensed VPNs only get a license for a reason ie they are not to be used for non state approved activities

You said you can be jailed in China for using a VPN...that is fake news, there is no law against it. Read the link, with the original Chinese government text.

You linked to a case of somebody running an unlicensed business which was lying to the government and got jailed for it.

That isn't an individual using a VPN for personal use.

If you sell an unlicensed VPN you can be jailed and use of unlicensed VPNs is banned

Head desk bang...just admit you post something that was factually incorrect, it isn't hard, nobody will think any less of you.

Also the reality of the situation in China is that anybody who really wants a VPN can get one and as it isn't illegal won't be going to jail. The issue seems to be more than from time to time the government will block one service or another / slow it right down, so most people have to subscribe to 2-3 to ensure they always have an internet connection (which for many normal Chinese people is a lot of money and not worth it).

As the article makes quite clear selling a VPN service without a license has a jail sentence and as it also makes clear usage of an unlicensed VPN can have at a minimum a fine of around 15000 Yuan

Any usage of a VPN without a government license in China is illegal. End of.