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Only 31% of voters say Die Hard is a Christmas movie @yougov finds. Not surprising, The Empire Strikes Back has more snow in it than Die Hard. pic.twitter.com/E2e8RIqpNg
I don't particularly like our country's future being shaped by the DUP, but I'd prefer that than it being shaped by the Irish government.
Ireland can and should make some sort of an effort to help find a solution that works for everyone. If they adopt that attitude then we should take every step to meet them halfway, or even go the extra mile ourselves. Not doing that, and it seems they're not, is unwise.
Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brexiter: Why won't they suggest a plan that works Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brextier: Why won't they suggest anything Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brexiter: It's like they want hard Brexit.
The UK staying in the single market and customs union is totally incompatible with leaving the EU. So no its not a realistic suggestion, any more than my three year old telling me she should have chocolate for breakfast, lunch and dinner is a realistic suggestion.
It may be what you want, but its not an option, so what else is acceptable?
Norway is in the Single Market but not the EU. Turkey is in the Customs Union but not the EU. The EU is not the EEA or the CU. The vote was on the EU. What you chose to infer "EU" means is up to you, but we absolutely can leave the EU and remain in the EEA and CU.
Your own examples contradict you.
Norway is not in the Customs Union. Turkey is not in either the EEA or the Customs Union, though it has a customs union.
Please pick any example that is both in the Customs Union and the EEA but not the EU.
The UK in five years time with a bespoke agreement? There's a first time for everything.
Name one good reason we should be in both the customs union and the single market but not the EU. It is the worst of all worlds.
Blue passports?
Is it the colour or the fact it’s a soft back rather than hardback book people dislike
Talking to a local councillor today, who observed that a much larger number than usual of incumbent Conservatives on our local council are standing down this May, and that the local party is finding it hard to identify good quality replacements (for what are, in many cases, shoo-in wards).
There might be local factors, but if so I don't know of them. It might be coincidence. Or it could be the cumulative effect of a botched GE17, year-on-year cuts to local government funding (why put yourself through all this just to defend service cuts you can't change), and a surprisingly rampant Labour party.
I genuinely don't know. But what I do know is that hollowing out the local council activist base usually presages further decline in a party. Ask the LibDems.
I don't particularly like our country's future being shaped by the DUP, but I'd prefer that than it being shaped by the Irish government.
Ireland can and should make some sort of an effort to help find a solution that works for everyone. If they adopt that attitude then we should take every step to meet them halfway, or even go the extra mile ourselves. Not doing that, and it seems they're not, is unwise.
Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brexiter: Why won't they suggest a plan that works Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brextier: Why won't they suggest anything Ireland: The UK should stay in the single market and customs union Brexiter: It's like they want hard Brexit.
The UK staying in the single market and customs union is totally incompatible with leaving the EU. So no its not a realistic suggestion, any more than my three year old telling me she should have chocolate for breakfast, lunch and dinner is a realistic suggestion.
It may be what you want, but its not an option, so what else is acceptable?
Norway is in the Single Market but not the EU. Turkey is in the Customs Union but not the EU. The EU is not the EEA or the CU. The vote was on the EU. What you chose to infer "EU" means is up to you, but we absolutely can leave the EU and remain in the EEA and CU.
Your own examples contradict you.
Norway is not in the Customs Union. Turkey is not in either the EEA or the Customs Union, though it has a customs union.
Please pick any example that is both in the Customs Union and the EEA but not the EU.
The UK in five years time with a bespoke agreement? There's a first time for everything.
Name one good reason we should be in both the customs union and the single market but not the EU. It is the worst of all worlds.
Blue passports?
Is it the colour or the fact it’s a soft back rather than hardback book people dislike
Leaving the EU won't bring that back. The soft back is an International Civil Aviation Organization standard. I suppose we could leave ICAO too, but non-standard passports would almost certainly require visas from most countries.
So do we think the government can get a deal to move onto stage 2 by Wednesday? It is not looking promising for the trade talks.
Given the EU's track record, it will be a five-minutes-to-midnight job. It's hardly worth expending one's emotional energy as shenanigans ensue for the next day or so.
So do we think the government can get a deal to move onto stage 2 by Wednesday? It is not looking promising for the trade talks.
Trade talks are in phase 3 - mostly or entirely after we have left the EU. Phase 2 is mainly about the "transition" - effectively a temporary and limited extension of current arrangements, but there will be some agreement on the direction of the subsequent trade talks.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
So do we think the government can get a deal to move onto stage 2 by Wednesday? It is not looking promising for the trade talks.
Trade talks are in phase 3 - mostly or entirely after we have left the EU. Phase 2 is mainly about the "transition" - effectively a temporary and limited extension of current arrangements, but there will be some agreement on the direction of the subsequent trade talks.
I thought phase two was on the future relationship?
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
Bravo Richard, everyone needs time off from worrying about the B-word. I've found my impending marriage (29th December!) has, unaccountably, distracted me from all the hoop-la. Perhaps others can find some (possibly less life-changing) remedy of their own. Shall we have the equivalent of the Christmas truce in WW1 for the evening?
Could you really watch it in the height of summer at a cinema - for that reason alone it’s a Christmas movie
It was released in July. Who releases a Christmas movie in July?
Christmas in Connecticut was released in August.
By Yougov's definition though It's a Wonderful Life wouldn't count as a Christmas movie either. Most of the film isn't even set at Christmas.
Bush Christmas doesn't have any snow either but then it is set in Australia.
Strangest one is Stay another Day by East 17 being widely regarded as a Christmas song because of a few bells on it near the end and some fake snow in the video.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
The movie is about Christmas. It is specifically about his adventure while getting home to see his family for Christmas. It may not be your classic Christmas adventure but it is one.
Talking to a local councillor today, who observed that a much larger number than usual of incumbent Conservatives on our local council are standing down this May, and that the local party is finding it hard to identify good quality replacements (for what are, in many cases, shoo-in wards).
There might be local factors, but if so I don't know of them. It might be coincidence. Or it could be the cumulative effect of a botched GE17, year-on-year cuts to local government funding (why put yourself through all this just to defend service cuts you can't change), and a surprisingly rampant Labour party.
I genuinely don't know. But what I do know is that hollowing out the local council activist base usually presages further decline in a party. Ask the LibDems.
Its the same where I am, the labour party councillors are quitting en masse due mostly to old age. No shortage of Momentum types to replace them, how they actually perform as councillors will be interesting.
I wouldn't do it in a million years although I've been asked several times. I'd have to resign for the sake of my own sanity after about a week.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Nailed on the best Christmas movie is A Muppet Christmas Carol. Michael Caines finest performance.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Nailed on the best Christmas movie is A Muppet Christmas Carol. Michael Caines finest performance.
Could you really watch it in the height of summer at a cinema - for that reason alone it’s a Christmas movie
It was released in July. Who releases a Christmas movie in July?
Christmas in Connecticut was released in August.
By Yougov's definition though It's a Wonderful Life wouldn't count as a Christmas movie either. Most of the film isn't even set at Christmas.
Bush Christmas doesn't have any snow either but then it is set in Australia.
Strangest one is Stay another Day by East 17 being widely regarded as a Christmas song because of a few bells on it near the end and some fake snow in the video.
Interestingly though, both movies were released for Xmas in the UK.. Die Hard end of November, and Xmas in Ct in December.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Nailed on the best Christmas movie is A Muppet Christmas Carol. Michael Caines finest performance.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Nailed on the best Christmas movie is A Muppet Christmas Carol. Michael Caines finest performance.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Set at a Christmas party, lots of unconventional top-down entry into buildings, and if that's not enough check out the heroine's Christian name. It's a Christmas movie.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Nailed on the best Christmas movie is A Muppet Christmas Carol. Michael Caines finest performance.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
1. The EEA is an agreement between members of the EU and members of EFTA. The whole way in which the treaty is written means it is not possible to be in the EEA without being in the EU or EFTA.
2. EFTA members negotiate trade agreements as a group. Therefore you cannot be in EFTA and be in the EU Customs Union. The two are mutually exclusive.
Therefore your statement is utterly wrong. One cannot be in the EEA and the Customs Union without being a member of the EU.
Incorrect. EFTA is explicitly NOT a Customs Union. EFTA members are explicitly able to enter into any bilateral arrangements they choose. EFTA does negotiate free trade agreements on behalf of its members. It is then up to members to decide whether to participate in those arrangements as an individual country. Agreements are not automatically available to additional countries. Regardless of the EU Customs Union issue, counterparties would likely want to negotiate any arrangement separately for the UK, which is more than five times the total size of the previous EFTA organisation.
Any decisions to allow the UK to join EFTA and/or the EU Customs Union are political ones that depend on the other party's calculation of the benefit to them. If EFTA doesn't work out for the UK, the EU and the UK can create parallel structures that recreate the main benefits, if they so wish.
We should make the decision to join the EU Customs Union on a cost/benefit calculation. The benefits are frictionless (as today) borders at places such as Dover and the Irish border. The second in turn helps protect the Good Friday Agreement. We can partially link into 60 existing preferential trade agreements that have already been set up through the Customs Union.
Being in a Customs Union, however, removes much of our leverage in trade talks with third countries. Offering lower tariffs or better access is the currency of trade negotiations. You use that currency to get the other side to offer you better access. To be clear, being in a Customs Union doesn't prevent us having trade deals. In fact we have to negotiate our own deals under any Brexit scenario. But it does constrain the contents of those trade deals. OTOH we don't have much leverage anyway outside the Customs Union. We will be signing up to degraded third party arrangements, compared with those we had as EU members
The Customs Union protects our farmers' main export market and prevents a flood of cheap imports undermining their home market. OTOH, protectionism does result in more expensive food prices. I guess that can be argued either way.
In summary, being in the Customs Union would bring bigger advantages to a greater amount of trade than being outside it. On a cost/benefit it's a clear winner.
“David has an historic role in government and we are within touching distance of getting a major breakthrough on Brexit. Why would he walk away from that?”
Only a minority of Americans fully accept evolution through natural selection... which is fair evidence that opinion polls don't settle issues with any degree of reliability. And as it's a US movie, what the British public (most of whom aren't really Christian anyway) think is pretty well irrelevant.
Well done on getting the campaign up the news agenda!
Keeping the welfare state efficient, responsive, comprehensive and universal is the political challenge of our time. People shouldn't have to fight for stuff, it should just happen.
My hope when - labour take power - is we can create a smarter welfare state. My slightly off-the-wall suggestion is to integrate a national social care service into a new national service - that both teenagers - and the able newly-retired - can participate in.
On the first year of BREXIT the EU gave to me Fook All
On the 2nd Year of BREXIT...........
It sounds to me like you are seeking to re-write the Liberal merger song....
On the first day of merger The soggies gave to me, Well, not much actually.
On the second day of merger The soggies gave to me, Absolutely zilch, Well, not much actually
3. ..Sweet F.A. 4. ..A very small amount. 5. ..BUGGER ALL. 6. ..Very little really. 7. ..Nothing you would miss. 8. ..Just a meagre smidgen. 9. ..Nought that they would miss. 10. .,Not a bleeding sausage. 11. ..Mere peccadilloes. 12. ..Just a meagre helping.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
If there was no porn and it was all fabricated, then what confidential information has been released "as a crime"?
His expensive mistakes across London have cost the city a fortune, but he was never held accountable, largely because of the lopsided power balance between the Mayor and the Assembly, and his greater ability to play the media. We just have to hope that his luck is about to finally run out.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
If there was no porn and it was all fabricated, then what confidential information has been released "as a crime"?
In that case, I think they'd be happily pleading to the release of confidential data....
Incorrect. EFTA is explicitly NOT a Customs Union. EFTA members are explicitly able to enter into any bilateral arrangements they choose. EFTA does negotiate free trade agreements on behalf of its members. It is then up to members to decide whether to participate in those arrangements as an individual country. Agreements are not automatically available to additional countries. Regardless of the EU Customs Union issue, counterparties would likely want to negotiate any arrangement separately for the UK, which is more than five times the total size of the previous EFTA organisation.
Any decisions to allow the UK to join EFTA and/or the EU Customs Union are political ones that depend on the other party's calculation of the benefit to them. If EFTA doesn't work out for the UK, the EU and the UK can create parallel structures that recreate the main benefits, if they so wish.
We should make the decision to join the EU Customs Union on a cost/benefit calculation. The benefits are frictionless (as today) borders at places such as Dover and the Irish border. The second in turn helps protect the Good Friday Agreement. We can partially link into 60 existing preferential trade agreements that have already been set up through the Customs Union.
Being in a Customs Union, however, removes much of our leverage in trade talks with third countries. Offering lower tariffs or better access is the currency of trade negotiations. You use that currency to get the other side to offer you better access. To be clear, being in a Customs Union doesn't prevent us having trade deals. In fact we have to negotiate our own deals under any Brexit scenario. But it does constrain the contents of those trade deals. OTOH we don't have much leverage anyway outside the Customs Union. We will be signing up to degraded third party arrangements, compared with those we had as EU members
The Customs Union protects our farmers' main export market and prevents a flood of cheap imports undermining their home market. OTOH, protectionism does result in more expensive food prices. I guess that can be argued either way.
In summary, being in the Customs Union would bring bigger advantages to a greater amount of trade than being outside it. On a cost/benefit it's a clear winner.
Wrong i am afraid. Whilst you are correct that EFTA is not a Customs Union, it does negotiate free trade deals as an organisation. This would be illegal if the UK were part of the EU customs union - not under EFTA rules but under EU Customs Union rules.
And now you are officially my mortal enemy as you made me break my promise not to discuss Brexit on this thread.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
I think to qualify as a Christmas movie it has to have most of the following elements
1) Snow 2) Set around Christmas 3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. 4) Santa 5) Have good Christian values in it
Set at a Christmas party, lots of unconventional top-down entry into buildings, and if that's not enough check out the heroine's Christian name. It's a Christmas movie.
Soundtrack has Jingle Bells, Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC, Let It Snow, and Winter Wonderland. If Michael Kamen thinks it's a Christmas film, it's a Christmas film.
Thanks @TOPPING ! I seemed to be banned until you asked..
Ha! Welcome back we were talking about the rugby and then you were gone!
Ah yes, I'd just haunted myself with the memory of playing hooker for Marlborough seconds against Erlestoke prison!
That was the biggest thrashing I've ever been on the end of. Over a hundred, against our five. Our changing room was their weights room, and the first time any of us had been in a weights room for years. Their front row looked like two of Victor Obogu's wider, much more violent cousins, and their hooker looked a wrongun; he had a six inch scar across his face and a very unsettling twitch.
But he was an awful hooker. I've never won more scrums against the head. And I've never known that to be so damaging to my own team. Their scrum was so big, and drove us back so quickly, that I was extending the ground we lost by keeping the scrums alive as I kept hooking it back, and realised (far too late!) that I was better off just booting the ball through the scrum so their scrum half would struggle to pick it up.
Our backs were actually quite well matched with theirs, it was up front that they were murdering us, and to be fair to the backs (which I'm not usually!) they did pretty well at picking up on the new tactic and we finished quite well and scored a try from one of the booted through scrums.
I said the score was well over a hundred, but didn't mention how terrible their kicker was. After the first try, which was under the posts, they all cheered really loudly when he got the kick. I remember thinking how weird, and a bit scary, that was. Were they that desperate to score? But then he missed the next twenty or so kicks. He got the very last one over, and we all cheered too!
They played a very clean game though, I think it's only fair to mention. We had no injuries at all. Their scrum half put the ball in the middle of every scrum; one time it landed in the middle but bounced their way and the ref (who was obviously their coach) gave us a penalty for feeding, the scrum half said "But.." and went back 10!
I think this very definitely is a Christmas movie. I believe the Germans particularly like it. Classic English music hall humour. Imagine watching it well tanked up.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
If there was no porn and it was all fabricated, then what confidential information has been released "as a crime"?
He admitted in his interview to not destroying the copies that he was ordered to by the Met. That's what he's being investigated for. If the investigations discover that he also fabricated that evidence, then there was nothing there except bent cops.
The US Supreme Court has ruled that President Trump's travel ban on six mainly Muslim countries can go fully into effect.
Seven of the nine justices have granted the administration's request to lift injunctions imposed by lower courts blocking the ban.
.....Protests incoming....
That's really not a surprise, reading the judgement of such a ban reaches the SCOTUS then the ruling will be fairly straightforward. The executive branch has been given the power by Congress to make any and all decisions on banning the entry of non-citizens.
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
Much appreciated.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
Bravo Richard, everyone needs time off from worrying about the B-word. I've found my impending marriage (29th December!) has, unaccountably, distracted me from all the hoop-la. Perhaps others can find some (possibly less life-changing) remedy of their own. Shall we have the equivalent of the Christmas truce in WW1 for the evening?
This week the House Foreign Affairs Committee will be holding a hearing on the implications of Brexit. As two members of the committee, we will be addressing the issues faced by the people on the island of Ireland. The potential return to a hard border is sparking fears of renewed political violence. We believe the United Kingdom must come to an agreement on a written declaration outlining its plans to avoid a hard border before entering “Phase 2” of the Brexit negotiations, for the good of the ongoing peace process on the island.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
If there was no porn and it was all fabricated, then what confidential information has been released "as a crime"?
He admitted in his interview to not destroying the copies that he was ordered to by the Met. That's what he's being investigated for. If the investigations discover that he also fabricated that evidence, then there was nothing there except bent cops.
Oh, and he's also obviously being investigated for then releasing those illegally retained, and quite possibly faked, copies hand in hand with his BBC accomplices. Why the hell have the BBC embroiled themselves in something so clearly political, and so damned blatantly wrong? Why didn't their legal team stop this? I hope heads roll, and that Green gets adequately compensated by the BBC's and the Met's savings on pensions.
Incorrect. EFTA is explicitly NOT a Customs Union. EFTA members are explicitly able to enter into any bilateral arrangements they choose. EFTA does negotiate free trade agreements on behalf of its members. It is then up to members to decide whether to participate in those arrangements as an individual country. Agreements are not automatically available to additional countries. Regardless of the EU Customs Union issue, counterparties would likely want to negotiate any arrangement separately for the UK, which is more than five times the total size of the previous EFTA organisation.
Any decisions to allow the UK to join EFTA and/or the EU Customs Union are political ones that depend on the other party's calculation of the benefit to them. If EFTA doesn't work out for the UK, the EU and the UK can create parallel structures that recreate the main benefits, if they so wish.
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Wrong i am afraid. Whilst you are correct that EFTA is not a Customs Union, it does negotiate free trade deals as an organisation. This would be illegal if the UK were part of the EU customs union - not under EFTA rules but under EU Customs Union rules.
And now you are officially my mortal enemy as you made me break my promise not to discuss Brexit on this thread.
Not illegal under EU rules either. What is legal and illegal is whatever is contained in any EU/UK Customs Agreement. Based on the Turkish CU agreement, the EU encourages the other party to align itself with association agreements the EU has set up with third countries. How it does so, is up to the other party. The point is, the UK can be members of both EFTA (and through them, the EU Single Market) and the EU Customs Union, as long as it doesn't enter into any EFTA agreements with terms that infringe its membership of the Customs Union. EFTA members are under no obligation to enter into these agreements. Then it becomes a question of what people want to do.
This week the House Foreign Affairs Committee will be holding a hearing on the implications of Brexit. As two members of the committee, we will be addressing the issues faced by the people on the island of Ireland. The potential return to a hard border is sparking fears of renewed political violence. We believe the United Kingdom must come to an agreement on a written declaration outlining its plans to avoid a hard border before entering “Phase 2” of the Brexit negotiations, for the good of the ongoing peace process on the island.
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Talking to a local councillor today, who observed that a much larger number than usual of incumbent Conservatives on our local council are standing down this May, and that the local party is finding it hard to identify good quality replacements (for what are, in many cases, shoo-in wards).
There might be local factors, but if so I don't know of them. It might be coincidence. Or it could be the cumulative effect of a botched GE17, year-on-year cuts to local government funding (why put yourself through all this just to defend service cuts you can't change), and a surprisingly rampant Labour party.
I genuinely don't know. But what I do know is that hollowing out the local council activist base usually presages further decline in a party. Ask the LibDems.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/477421/Zulu-is-50-Relive-the-story-of-the-British-defence-of-Rorke-s-Drift-in-1879
Zulu !
"Mange tout, Michel. Mange tout."
To be honest, I didn't have the energy to write a full thread tonight, so I did this.
It was really good having the thread a couple of days ago which, by happy chance, made no mention at all of the 'B' word in the comments section. I see this one has already failed on that score but I will try to maintain that spirit.
I am somewhat concerned with your apparently integral association of snow with Christmas movies. After all, The Thing has probably more snow in it than any other I can think of but is certainly not a Christmas Movie.
For example, what Barnier said here: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-17-3404_en.htm
https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/937774773303623682
By Yougov's definition though It's a Wonderful Life wouldn't count as a Christmas movie either. Most of the film isn't even set at Christmas.
Bush Christmas doesn't have any snow either but then it is set in Australia.
Strangest one is Stay another Day by East 17 being widely regarded as a Christmas song because of a few bells on it near the end and some fake snow in the video.
They're shameless. Even with the head of the Met saying that they're investigating the release of confidential information as a crime, the BBC is continuing to parrot the very information which they were an accessory in the potentially illegal release of. They can't mention the case without naming him, and talking about 1000s of pictures.
I hope, but obviously can't imagine will happen, that the result of the investigation by the Met is that these two bent cops almost certainly fabricated the information, and nothing was actually found on the computer. That is the only result that would be fair to the DPM. If the bent cops won't shut up, they should be locked up.
I want to do it justice.
1) Snow
2) Set around Christmas
3) Have mention of God, Angels, Jesus, Joseph and Mary.
4) Santa
5) Have good Christian values in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDt3u2Ev1cI
The movie is about Christmas. It is specifically about his adventure while getting home to see his family for Christmas. It may not be your classic Christmas adventure but it is one.
I wouldn't do it in a million years although I've been asked several times. I'd have to resign for the sake of my own sanity after about a week.
And Gremlins is my Christmas movie.
In the Bleak Midwinter
Silent Night, Silent Day
O come all ye Brexiteers, joyful and triumphant
- Brexit Carols
Any decisions to allow the UK to join EFTA and/or the EU Customs Union are political ones that depend on the other party's calculation of the benefit to them. If EFTA doesn't work out for the UK, the EU and the UK can create parallel structures that recreate the main benefits, if they so wish.
We should make the decision to join the EU Customs Union on a cost/benefit calculation. The benefits are frictionless (as today) borders at places such as Dover and the Irish border. The second in turn helps protect the Good Friday Agreement. We can partially link into 60 existing preferential trade agreements that have already been set up through the Customs Union.
Being in a Customs Union, however, removes much of our leverage in trade talks with third countries. Offering lower tariffs or better access is the currency of trade negotiations. You use that currency to get the other side to offer you better access. To be clear, being in a Customs Union doesn't prevent us having trade deals. In fact we have to negotiate our own deals under any Brexit scenario. But it does constrain the contents of those trade deals. OTOH we don't have much leverage anyway outside the Customs Union. We will be signing up to degraded third party arrangements, compared with those we had as EU members
The Customs Union protects our farmers' main export market and prevents a flood of cheap imports undermining their home market. OTOH, protectionism does result in more expensive food prices. I guess that can be argued either way.
In summary, being in the Customs Union would bring bigger advantages to a greater amount of trade than being outside it. On a cost/benefit it's a clear winner.
'God rest ye Jerry Mentalmen'
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/937780442513764357
On the 2nd Year of BREXIT...........
I saw three shits (come flailing in)
All piss off back to Lodz /
Remainers cross the land did laugh /
At May's unholy bodge
Keeping the welfare state efficient, responsive, comprehensive and universal is the political challenge of our time. People shouldn't have to fight for stuff, it should just happen.
My hope when - labour take power - is we can create a smarter welfare state. My slightly off-the-wall suggestion is to integrate a national social care service into a new national service - that both teenagers - and the able newly-retired - can participate in.
45 mins....
On the first day of merger
The soggies gave to me,
Well, not much actually.
On the second day of merger
The soggies gave to me,
Absolutely zilch,
Well, not much actually
3. ..Sweet F.A.
4. ..A very small amount.
5. ..BUGGER ALL.
6. ..Very little really.
7. ..Nothing you would miss.
8. ..Just a meagre smidgen.
9. ..Nought that they would miss.
10. .,Not a bleeding sausage.
11. ..Mere peccadilloes.
12. ..Just a meagre helping.
Die Hard 2 is also a Christmas movie.
The first is more Christmassy than Miracle on 34th Street and It's a Wonderful Life.
And now you are officially my mortal enemy as you made me break my promise not to discuss Brexit on this thread.
Seven of the nine justices have granted the administration's request to lift injunctions imposed by lower courts blocking the ban.
.....Protests incoming....
That was the biggest thrashing I've ever been on the end of. Over a hundred, against our five. Our changing room was their weights room, and the first time any of us had been in a weights room for years. Their front row looked like two of Victor Obogu's wider, much more violent cousins, and their hooker looked a wrongun; he had a six inch scar across his face and a very unsettling twitch.
But he was an awful hooker. I've never won more scrums against the head. And I've never known that to be so damaging to my own team. Their scrum was so big, and drove us back so quickly, that I was extending the ground we lost by keeping the scrums alive as I kept hooking it back, and realised (far too late!) that I was better off just booting the ball through the scrum so their scrum half would struggle to pick it up.
Our backs were actually quite well matched with theirs, it was up front that they were murdering us, and to be fair to the backs (which I'm not usually!) they did pretty well at picking up on the new tactic and we finished quite well and scored a try from one of the booted through scrums.
I said the score was well over a hundred, but didn't mention how terrible their kicker was. After the first try, which was under the posts, they all cheered really loudly when he got the kick. I remember thinking how weird, and a bit scary, that was. Were they that desperate to score? But then he missed the next twenty or so kicks. He got the very last one over, and we all cheered too!
They played a very clean game though, I think it's only fair to mention. We had no injuries at all. Their scrum half put the ball in the middle of every scrum; one time it landed in the middle but bounced their way and the ref (who was obviously their coach) gave us a penalty for feeding, the scrum half said "But.." and went back 10!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd_VLO9xcc
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/there-is-bipartisan-support-in-washington-for-irish-position-on-the-border-1.3314931
This week the House Foreign Affairs Committee will be holding a hearing on the implications of Brexit. As two members of the committee, we will be addressing the issues faced by the people on the island of Ireland. The potential return to a hard border is sparking fears of renewed political violence. We believe the United Kingdom must come to an agreement on a written declaration outlining its plans to avoid a hard border before entering “Phase 2” of the Brexit negotiations, for the good of the ongoing peace process on the island.
Sufficient.
Money.
For.
The.
NHS.