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JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians." https://t.co/aiagnvr8eS pic.twitter.com/r8u2LWAd0O
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Depending on the wording of the bet (ie Trump/the President of the US).
As with Brexit, voters have made their mind up on Trump and the camps are entrenched and miles apart. Any wavering is seen as disloyalty first and foremost, and there can be no deviation from your side, or acknowledgement that the other side have a point or there are weaknesses in your argument.
I hope I'm wrong. I fear I'm not.
1) It to happen so soon, I was expecting a long drawn out investigation
2) Mike Flynn to become a rat and squeal.
Of course I hope for a better outcome, but it's very hard to see how this could come about.
[I'm aware we're a long way from even Trump going, just contemplating contingencies].
All we have so far is the Brian Ross report. Post-election, it was perfectly reasonable for Trump to direct Flynn to talk to nations including the Russians about the UN December vote. The question is what did he tell Flynn to say?
Also at this point Obama was still POTUS at it was pre-inauguration, so Trump should have stayed clear of breaking away from Obama's policy. Only 1 president at a time..
Which brings us to Flynn. He worked for the Obama administration but was agitating too much against radical islamic terrorism for them, so they had issues and fired him. Obama warned Trump not to hire Flynn, and apparently had him under surveillance! Once he lied to Pence about what he said to the Russians he was fired forthwith. So he has some credibility issues.
You might want to wait before pronouncing this a game changer. We've known this was coming for over a week. The question is what else does he have to tell Mueller? So far it's a non-event. Potentially that may change.
Prosecuting an ex-official for lying when he was fired for lying by 2 administrations is a nuthin' burger.
- and we're not even mentioning his foreign agent problems, and his son's activities, all of which is yet to come to light.
I'm far from convinced that this is yet a game-changer.
Flynn - allegedly- is copping this plea (which is a cup cake compared to what they could have got him for) at least in part to help his son. The fact it's a single indictment means that there is at least one more shoe to fall, as part of his proffer deal with Mueller.
http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2016/11/18/the-president-and-the-bomb/
Clear I think that Flynn had some dirt and given the trouble he has found himself in...
Brexit hopefully will see sensible compromises and we could all do to leave behind our locked in remain and leave positions and actively support a confident and successful Brexit.
It is not often said on here but the EU have huge contrary forces and the idea the 27 are full of harmony and joy is far from the reality of the EU both now and into the future
Just about the only conceivable scenario where the Speaker directly becomes President would be a double assassination. AIUI POTUS and Veep never travel together and rarely appear in public together outside Washington.
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/936606174643998720
https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/936618696570753025
https://twitter.com/Comey/status/936641449294286848
http://www.cityam.com/276748/city-firms-hiring-spree-salaries-look-set-keep-rising
The networks are now emphasizing that the lies Flynn told Pence were the same ones the feds got him for.
The one thing we don't know is what he talked to the Russian ambassador about which got him fired. The plea agreement doesn't say. There is no suggestion to this point that Flynn did anything illegal at all except to lying to investigators.
The one thing not appearing anywhere is the slightest taint of Russian collusion.
Or was it to keep the racists and screwballs on-board while the Flynn business took its course.
OH .
Big G said:
"Trump gone would be fabulous - but utter chaos seems highly likely and not good for anyone."
Well the fact that the country's been running in spite of Trump, sort of, does indicate a certain stability, thanks to the original framers of the constitution. Ideally that stability will extend to a Trump excretion.
Just imagine if Charles was King, he'd be likely to publicly say he wouldn't entertain Trump on his visit.
Then where would we be?
That said, I think I remember from Yes Prime Minister that it's much the same here. (The advice given Hacker was to avoid getting drunk).
Edit - Republicans Are Talking About Tackling Trump If He Goes for the Nuclear Football
https://www.gq.com/story/nuclear-football-tackle
Flynn is selling his home because he's so short of cash. He may be an imperfect person but he's still human.
It's getting so that the facade of the E Barrett Prettyman United States Court House is very familiar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_(play)
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/936644160521678848
On the last thread, by the way, the +12 for the Tories on "good for people like me" is wrong - it should be -12. Interesting that the parties are nearly level on "good leaders" and "extreme".
More interesting and likely, what if the PM at the time of the visit is Jezza?
The only reason for flipping Flynn is to get further up the chain of command. The plea agreement says virtually nothing. So we have no idea what they do or don't have. For all we know Flynn just cried Uncle.
(I might be getting a bit confused here.)
A common, everyday activity.
In any case, it also works the other way. If 'no deal' is unacceptable to Ireland - which it is - then presumably 'no deal' is unacceptable to the EU.
Lord only knows why they are playing silly games over this, when it's as plain as a pikestaff that border arrangements depend crucially on the final EU-UK relationship which they are refusing to discuss. Just weird.
That's presumably code for one of the top team members, already starting to Make America Great Again...
I doubt it will happen though....
Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney is pragmatic: “We don’t need to use a veto because we have complete solidarity on this issue with 26 other EU countries. It is clear to us that if there is not progress on the Irish Border, we will not be moving on to phase two [of Brexit negotiations] in December and that was reinforced to me ... by very senior EU leaders.”
I guess the talk of the Irish veto now was because they always had the option of vetoing the final deal if they were unhappy with the border issue resolution.
Kushner is likely the next target.
As for Flynn squealing, why the surprise ?
(Not least as his son might otherwise have been facing charges - note his statement included doing "the best for my family"... as well as the country. Probably the first time in a while he's spoken the unvarnished truth.)
:-)
...The Irish most of all.
The Irish government is seeking to make political capital out of the Brexit negotiations. But, they also know that a "no deal" scenario is particularly serious for them.