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  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    +1 for Paul Simon
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    The Moody Blues sold 60 million records between 1967 and 1972, played to half a million people in the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival and now are only known for Nights in White Satin on Smooth Radio.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    Depeche Mode
    Hmmm: up to and including Songs of Faith and Devotion they are utterly brilliant. After that... much more patchy.
  • rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    Depeche Mode
    Hmmm: up to and including Songs of Faith and Devotion they are utterly brilliant. After that... much more patchy.
    Spirit (2017) and Delta Machine (2013) had some great tunes.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    SeanT said:

    One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    Wow, you really think they went downhill from Pablo Honey and The Bends.

    I would say their best album is In Rainbows, then Kid A, and then it's a toss up between OK Computer and The Bends.

    But even their worst two albums (Hail to the Thief and Pablo Honey) contain some moments of brilliance.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    I agree with the consistency idea bur Radiohead?? One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    I was having this debate with my wife yesterday. As I might have mentioned, she's 22. She tells me that student unions and young parties simply don't play modern music any more, they play the classics from the 60s to the 90s, maybe the noughties occasionally.

    They accept that music is not what it was.

    My theory is that pop music is like Renaissance art or Impressionism. Or the great era of classical music (1770-1910?). It was born, it thrived, it peaked, it declined. There will always be sudden and unexpected revivals, new talents that excite, but the golden age? Nah, that is over. And will never return.

    For me Led Zep were and are the ultimate rock band of that golden age. They produced maybe 6 or 7 classic albums in a decade. Perhaps 50 brilliant songs. No one else comes close, not even Dylan, the Beatles, or the Stones.

    I do agree with you on the incredible genius of Paul Simon, even better when he was in the frictional combo with Garfunkel.
    Was any songwriter ever a better poet than Paul Simon?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    Agreed, on all points
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Gay marriage result now on Sky news

    79% turnout

    Yes 7 817 247 61.6%

    No 4 873 987 38.4%

    Australia therefore votes for gay marriage

    I'd be interested to see a regional breakdown. I'd guess the areas outside the five big cities voted against.
    > 75% of Australians live in the 5 mainland state capitals and their suburbs. Australia is the most metropolitan of countries.

    The outback is just there for films.
    I remember reading - somewhere - that 95% of aussies live within 50 miles of the coast, and this in a country the size of China or the USA, a continent unto itself.

    It is the most bizarre place.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3320021/Maps-just-Australia-really-population-clings-coast-jams-tiny-urban-clusters.html
    psland Lakes, so they had totally and utterly abandoned the idea of ever attracting foreigners.

    Australia is on a scale we don't quite conceive. It *feels* bigger than anywhere else, because so deserted
    Population density of Western Australia 2.6 /sq mi
    Population density of England 1,089.1/sq mi

    I have no way of properly comprehending how empty the former is, and I have been there (but only to the wider Perth area), it's incredible.
    A couple unding in the extreme.

    I have a cousin who farms in NE Victoria, just off that road. Some years ago whilst visiting he took me to a hilltop on his place to watch the sunset and wildlife. Beautiful it was, but he told me that all the land that you could see was for sale. No one could make a decent living farming it.

    I've heard similar. Some say the soil looks good, but is just too dry and sterile. Yet others have discovered that they can farm the world's best crustacea (because of the pure unpolluted waters).

    Who knows. That said, I am - in my amateur way - pretty sure Australia could support a population of 100m without much problem at all. They just don't want to (and fair enough, when they are so prosperous)
    2/3 of Austtalia is desert, but the other third is still a hell of a big country.

    Apart from mining there are few jobs or prospects in the rural areas. Immigrants go to the cities.

    Could the PB brainiacs solve one question for me? Why is the enclave of Jervis Bay part of the Australian Capital Territory?
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    I agree with the consistency idea bur Radiohead?? One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    I was having this debate with my wife yesterday. As I might have mentioned, she's 22. She tells me that student unions and young parties simply don't play modern music any more, they play the classics from the 60s to the 90s, maybe the noughties occasionally.

    They accept that music is not what it was.

    My theory is that pop music is like Renaissance art or Impressionism. Or the great era of classical music (1770-1910?). It was born, it thrived, it peaked, it declined. There will always be sudden and unexpected revivals, new talents that excite, but the golden age? Nah, that is over. And will never return.

    For me Led Zep were and are the ultimate rock band of that golden age. They produced maybe 6 or 7 classic albums in a decade. Perhaps 50 brilliant songs. No one else comes close, not even Dylan, the Beatles, or the Stones.

    I do agree with you on the incredible genius of Paul Simon, even better when he was in the frictional combo with Garfunkel.
    Was any songwriter ever a better poet than Paul Simon?
    Dylan. Springsteen. Young.

    The Disturbed version of Sounds of Silence is so good that I can imagine someone coming from it to the original and wondering why these hippy twats are mangling a great song.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    Download The Bends. Play it 20 times. Then tell me that Radiohead aren't a staggeringly good band.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Maybe not the most reliable source, but....

    https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/930586170366545920
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited November 2017



    2/3 of Austtalia is desert, but the other third is still a hell of a big country.

    Apart from mining there are few jobs or prospects in the rural areas. Immigrants go to the cities.

    Could the PB brainiacs solve one question for me? Why is the enclave of Jervis Bay part of the Australian Capital Territory?

    Interesting question.

    Per wiki;

    "The land now comprising the Jervis Bay Territory was surrendered by the state of New South Wales to the Commonwealth Government in 1915[21][22] to provide a seaport for the new Federal capital under construction at Canberra, which would be Australia’s only inland capital."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jervis_Bay
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    And for some light relief try this:

    https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518
    edited November 2017

    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    I agree with the consistency idea bur Radiohead?? One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    I was having this debate with my wife yesterday. As I might have mentioned, she's 22. She tells me that student unions and young parties simply don't play modern music any more, they play the classics from the 60s to the 90s, maybe the noughties occasionally.

    They accept that music is not what it was.

    My theory is that pop music is like Renaissance art or Impressionism. Or the great era of classical music (1770-1910?). It was born, it thrived, it peaked, it declined. There will always be sudden and unexpected revivals, new talents that excite, but the golden age? Nah, that is over. And will never return.

    For me Led Zep were and are the ultimate rock band of that golden age. They produced maybe 6 or 7 classic albums in a decade. Perhaps 50 brilliant songs. No one else comes close, not even Dylan, the Beatles, or the Stones.

    I do agree with you on the incredible genius of Paul Simon, even better when he was in the frictional combo with Garfunkel.
    Was any songwriter ever a better poet than Paul Simon?
    Paul Simon is great. But no Nobel Prize for Literature...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546
    edited November 2017
    I appear to have accidentally logged onto overrated and washed up 90's bands sub-reddit...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    It would be ironic if Mugabe is deposed today of all days with the Australian gay marriage result, given his infamous "gay gangsters" remark a few years ago.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    dixiedean said:

    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    To come back to Radiohead, here's why they are different.

    There are lots of bands that have one good, even one outstanding, album. But the number of bands or artists that have managed to consistently produce brilliant music over 25 years is incredibly small.

    Paul Simon
    Radiohead

    and errr...

    that's about it.

    I agree with the consistency idea bur Radiohead?? One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    I was having this debate with my wife yesterday. As I might have mentioned, she's 22. She tells me that student unions and young parties simply don't play modern music any more, they play the classics from the 60s to the 90s, maybe the noughties occasionally.

    They accept that music is not what it was.

    My theory is that pop music is like Renaissance art or Impressionism. Or the great era of classical music (1770-1910?). It was born, it thrived, it peaked, it declined. There will always be sudden and unexpected revivals, new talents that excite, but the golden age? Nah, that is over. And will never return.

    For me Led Zep were and are the ultimate rock band of that golden age. They produced maybe 6 or 7 classic albums in a decade. Perhaps 50 brilliant songs. No one else comes close, not even Dylan, the Beatles, or the Stones.

    I do agree with you on the incredible genius of Paul Simon, even better when he was in the frictional combo with Garfunkel.
    Was any songwriter ever a better poet than Paul Simon?
    Paul Simon is great. But n Nobel Prize for Literature...
    This is the last great Paul Simon song:

    https://youtu.be/0xVMYA5Q7lQ
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    The Stone Roses' first album is almost unique, I think, in being entirely brilliant from beginning to end. I am not sure there is a duff song on there.

    Five years later, after 1m quid and six months in the Caribbean they produced that 2nd album, soaked in heroin and methadone, with one tolerable dirge, and the rest is unlistenable.
    Embarassingly, I've never listened to it.

    Downloading it now.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2017
    "Taking over the state broadcaster" is a bit old hat these days, even in Africa.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    It’s ordure more like. Dreadful pub “rock”for people that don’t like rock.

    Try Shellac or Mudhoney. Will put some lead in your pencil.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pong said:



    2/3 of Austtalia is desert, but the other third is still a hell of a big country.

    Apart from mining there are few jobs or prospects in the rural areas. Immigrants go to the cities.

    Could the PB brainiacs solve one question for me? Why is the enclave of Jervis Bay part of the Australian Capital Territory?

    Interesting question.

    Per wiki;

    "The land now comprising the Jervis Bay Territory was surrendered by the state of New South Wales to the Commonwealth Government in 1915[21][22] to provide a seaport for the new Federal capital under construction at Canberra, which would be Australia’s only inland capital."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jervis_Bay
    But why did Canberra need a port? particularly as the only route between the two is via NSW? Why not just have friendly relations with NSW?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Didn't Oasis just rehash the Beatles?
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,951
    rcs1000 said:

    SeanT said:

    One good debut album followed by one great album, then a very sad dwindling.

    Wow, you really think they went downhill from Pablo Honey and The Bends.

    I would say their best album is In Rainbows, then Kid A, and then it's a toss up between OK Computer and The Bends.

    But even their worst two albums (Hail to the Thief and Pablo Honey) contain some moments of brilliance.
    D'you like Huey Lewis and The News?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,138

    Pong said:



    2/3 of Austtalia is desert, but the other third is still a hell of a big country.

    Apart from mining there are few jobs or prospects in the rural areas. Immigrants go to the cities.

    Could the PB brainiacs solve one question for me? Why is the enclave of Jervis Bay part of the Australian Capital Territory?

    Interesting question.

    Per wiki;

    "The land now comprising the Jervis Bay Territory was surrendered by the state of New South Wales to the Commonwealth Government in 1915[21][22] to provide a seaport for the new Federal capital under construction at Canberra, which would be Australia’s only inland capital."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jervis_Bay
    But why did Canberra need a port? particularly as the only route between the two is via NSW? Why not just have friendly relations with NSW?
    Just in case they don't have friendly relations. The capital territory is entirely surrounded by NSW.
  • I appear to have accidentally logged onto overrated and washed up 90's bands sub-reddit...

    They need a break from BCENSORED

    I’m sure normal service will be resumed shortly......
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    The Stone Roses' first album is almost unique, I think, in being entirely brilliant from beginning to end. I am not sure there is a duff song on there.

    Five years later, after 1m quid and six months in the Caribbean they produced that 2nd album, soaked in heroin and methadone, with one tolerable dirge, and the rest is unlistenable.
    Embarassingly, I've never listened to it.

    Downloading it now.
    Jesus Christ. Really. Fuck. That's like never having heard Sgt Pepper, Dark Side of the Moon, or Blonde on Blonde, or Led Zep 2, or.... any Mahler EVER. Whoah.
    Never got into Mahler (although I tried, really I did).
  • I appear to have accidentally logged onto overrated and washed up 90's bands sub-reddit...

    They need a break from BCENSORED

    I’m sure normal service will be resumed shortly......
    Well all this chat has just encouraged to stick on Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness...make of that what you will.
  • AndyJS said:

    "Taking over the state broadcaster" is a bit old hat these days, even in Africa.

    I thought all you had to do these days was get a twitter hashtag trending, right?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518
    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    The Stone Roses' first album is almost unique, I think, in being entirely brilliant from beginning to end. I am not sure there is a duff song on there.

    Five years later, after 1m quid and six months in the Caribbean they produced that 2nd album, soaked in heroin and methadone, with one tolerable dirge, and the rest is unlistenable.
    +1
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518
    rcs1000 said:

    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.

    Dad of the year? Least he didn't say Radiohead...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    edited November 2017
    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.

    Dad of the year? Least he didn't say Radiohead...
    When my son was about two, I was listening to The Killers (Smile Like You Mean It, I think), and he turned to me and said "nice song". Until this point, he'd never expressed a view on any music I'd played. Somehow, The Killers spoke to him.

    (This was at the same time his five year old sister was sadly getting into bilge.)

    He also loves The National, which demonstrates pretty great taste.

    I need to get him into LCD Soundsystem and Radiohead, and then my work is done. He will appreciate good music for the rest of his life.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited November 2017
    I think there's a ~50% chance the budget (well, its fall out) will bring down Hammond.

    He has way too many internal enemies briefing against him.

    https://www.ft.com/content/66f8e992-c85e-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    The greatest British pop band of the past 25 years is Teenage Fanclub. A bit derivative of Big Star but harmonies and refrains that Damon and Noel can only lick the shop window glass at.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,866
    Pong said:

    I think there's a ~50% chance the budget (well, its fall out) will bring down Hammond.

    He has way too many internal enemies briefing against him.

    WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POLITICS ON BESTMUSICOFTHELASTWODECADESbetting.com?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Where's Yokel when you need him? He might have some extra information on Zimbabwe.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518
    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.

    Dad of the year? Least he didn't say Radiohead...
    When my son was about two, I was listening to The Killers (Smile Like You Mean It, I think), and he turned to me and said "nice song". Until this point, he'd never expressed a view on any music I'd played. Somehow, The Killers spoke to him.

    (This was at the same time his five year old sister was sadly getting into bilge.)

    He also loves The National, which demonstrates pretty great taste.

    I need to get him into LCD Soundsystem and Radiohead, and then my work is done. He will appreciate good music for the rest of his life.
    That is cool. My son has become a massive Green Day fan. He will make his own choices, but exposing them to a range of possibilities rather than X Factor, chart bollocks is wonderfully satisfying,
    I'd be patient re Radiohead though...
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Pong said:

    I think there's a ~50% chance the budget (well, its fall out) will bring down Hammond.

    He has way too many internal enemies briefing against him.

    https://www.ft.com/content/66f8e992-c85e-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e

    He seems to be the Claudio Ranieri of CoTE.

    The pre LCFC Ranieri.
  • dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.

    Dad of the year? Least he didn't say Radiohead...
    When my son was about two, I was listening to The Killers (Smile Like You Mean It, I think), and he turned to me and said "nice song". Until this point, he'd never expressed a view on any music I'd played. Somehow, The Killers spoke to him.

    (This was at the same time his five year old sister was sadly getting into bilge.)

    He also loves The National, which demonstrates pretty great taste.

    I need to get him into LCD Soundsystem and Radiohead, and then my work is done. He will appreciate good music for the rest of his life.
    That is cool. My son has become a massive Green Day fan. He will make his own choices, but exposing them to a range of possibilities rather than X Factor, chart bollocks is wonderfully satisfying,
    I'd be patient re Radiohead though...
    Hopefully old school Green Day, not the modern bollocks!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,518

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paul Simon is the greatest lyricist of the last half century. Every album - from the earliest Simon & Garfunkel - through to You're The One contains moments of absolute brilliance.

    My son, aged seven, has the most wonderfully eclectic music tastes.

    When we're in the car, I ask what people want to listen to. My daughter (nine) says Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Arianne Grande.

    My son thinks for a minute and says Chuck Berry, Paul Simon and Ylvis.

    Dad of the year? Least he didn't say Radiohead...
    When my son was about two, I was listening to The Killers (Smile Like You Mean It, I think), and he turned to me and said "nice song". Until this point, he'd never expressed a view on any music I'd played. Somehow, The Killers spoke to him.

    (This was at the same time his five year old sister was sadly getting into bilge.)

    He also loves The National, which demonstrates pretty great taste.

    I need to get him into LCD Soundsystem and Radiohead, and then my work is done. He will appreciate good music for the rest of his life.
    That is cool. My son has become a massive Green Day fan. He will make his own choices, but exposing them to a range of possibilities rather than X Factor, chart bollocks is wonderfully satisfying,
    I'd be patient re Radiohead though...
    Hopefully old school Green Day, not the modern bollocks!
    Dookie poster on his door!
  • AndyJS said:

    Where's Yokel when you need him? He might have some extra information on Zimbabwe.

    Couple of hours I sent an email to an acquaintance in Harare who's been having a hard time of it of late. Wished him a less stressful time of it ... I see that worked out well ...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2017
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    AndyJS said:
    It's the more islamic part of town, lot of people from the middle east.

    Islam as a rule isn't cool with gays.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:
    It's the more islamic part of town, lot of people from the middle east.

    Islam as a rule isn't cool with gays.
    Thanks.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693

    AndyJS said:
    It's the more islamic part of town, lot of people from the middle east.

    Islam as a rule isn't cool with gays.
    Sadly, true.
  • "A resident who lives near Mugabe's mansion in the suburb of Borrowdale told AFP she heard gunfire, as questions mount over the verteran leader's grip on power.

    "From the direction of his house, we heard about 30 or 40 shots fired over three or four minutes soon after 2:00 am," the witness said."

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/11/15/gunfire-heard-near-mugabe-home-witness
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited November 2017
    Pong said:

    AndyJS said:
    It's the more islamic part of town, lot of people from the middle east.

    Islam as a rule isn't cool with gays.
    Sadly, true.
    http://mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/sydney-australias-most-religious-city

    Although, class/income/wealth are probably the most significant factor. Poll the ghetos in the US, or the poorer parts of WWC northern england and I'd suggest you'll get relatively higher levels of homophobia/lack of support for SSM.
  • swing_voterswing_voter Posts: 1,464
    Interesting to see Tom Tugendhadt on the Telegraph hit list........whilst he has historically been pro_REMAIN, this is quite a step for him, its either a sign of his confidence in dealing with the party hierarchy - it was his Select Committee where Boris J slipped up over the Iranian detention in, or TT has stepped onto the naughty step.

    Whilst the list is hardly a surprise I don't know how TT will come out of this in terms of leadership ratings. Perhaps he has a finger on the pulse of Tory backbenchers more than others or perhaps he just thinks this is more important. The Tory readership will now doubt move on to more pressing matters but I was interested to see it.
  • swing_voterswing_voter Posts: 1,464
    Sorry about the ZANU PF stuff - not my fault ........

    Interesting to see Tom Tugendhadt on the Telegraph hit list........whilst he has historically been pro_REMAIN, this is quite a step for him, its either a sign of his confidence in dealing with the party hierarchy - it was his Select Committee where Boris J slipped up over the Iranian detention in, or TT has stepped onto the naughty step.

    Whilst the list is hardly a surprise I don't know how TT will come out of this in terms of leadership ratings. Perhaps he has a finger on the pulse of Tory backbenchers more than others or perhaps he just thinks this is more important. The Tory readership will now doubt move on to more pressing matters but I was interested to see it.
  • It's an interesting piece the Gold Bug editorial stance of Zero Hedge not withstanding. Thanks for sharing it. Of course both Bush Jr and Obama lived with a Nuclear North Korea per se. With everything else that's going on in the world regime change in North Korea is a hell of a call for someone like Trump to make. It will put our euro tantrum in perspective certainly.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_P said:

    rcs1000 said:

    There are two types of people who don't like Radiohead:

    There are two types of people who claim to like Radiohead:

    Pretentious asshats
    and
    Centrist dads

    Which are you?
    Both.

    But I also believe that in fifty years time, Radiohead will be one of about a dozen bands from the last quarter century that will still get regular airtime.

    And here, for your deliction, are a few others I think have longetivity:

    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    The National
    LCD Soundsystem
    Lady Gaga
    Blur
    R.E.M

    (For the record, I don't particularly enjoy all of the above. But I think they will all be listened to in 2067.)
    Interesting. Are there any Antonio Salieris of rock - i.e. critically acclaimed in their day but now hardly listed to at all? Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
    Many, many bands.

    Creedence Clearwater Revival?

    Or more controversially, how about Oasis?
    Oasis' music will endure imo
    Only the first two albums, but same goes for some others. Stone Roses and Amy Winehouse only ever did one decent album. Neither could ever come close again. Either beats a whole shelf full of Radiohead.
    Oasis's first album is shit. It has 2 good songs on it. All of their good stuff is on (the phenomenal) What's the Story.
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