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We’ve all been entertained this week by the stream of Tweets from the ex-political editor of the Mail and former chief aide to the BrexSec DDavis, James Chapman.

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  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    Not having much luck with the thread headers today - his Twitter account has now been deleted
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    edited August 2017
    chrisoxon said:

    Not having much luck with the thread headers today - his Twitter account has now been deleted

    LOL

    I'm guessing he got a call from his lawyers? Luckily for us the internet never forgets.
  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    edited August 2017
    RobD said:

    chrisoxon said:

    Not having much luck with the thread headers today - his Twitter account has now been deleted

    LOL

    I'm guessing he got a call from his lawyers? Luckily for us the internet never forgets.
    It briefly reappeared and then vanished again. I think it's more likely that his phone has finally been confiscated (or that is attempting to happen!)
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    edited August 2017
    I'd assumed Sean t had found chappers phone and was on a trolling bender
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    edited August 2017
    He's back! Maybe his finger slipped while trying to tweet. Understandable given the time in Greece.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    I'd assumed Sean t had found chappers phone and was on a trolling bender

    There isn't enough bragging about his exploits for it to be SeanT. :p
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    edited August 2017
    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897975162615848965
    He's still going !
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Attacking people because they are bald doesn't endear Chapman to those who are.

    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897962759450656769
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Hmm... the standard editor should be asked to comment on chappers tweet tirades
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897976062738657280

    Lol. I think people finding out he's been on Pornhub is the least of his worries at this point.
  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    Pulpstar said:

    https://twitter.com/janelang1961/status/897975137236135936

    He's still going !

    Apparently Jeremy Heywood is behind his account disappearing... https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897975162615848965
    "Don't believe in conspiracy theories but 3 times have been locked out of @Twitter account. Never happened before #nicetryheywood #byebye"
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    Pulpstar said:

    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897976062738657280

    Lol. I think people finding out he's been on Pornhub is the least of his worries at this point.

    Was his account locked because of Brexit, or despite Brexit? I can't keep track these days....
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    edited August 2017
    If you think this is entertaining, just imagine what will happen when Stewart Jackson is driven over the edge by working at DexEU.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    He's labelling up that well known brexiteer Jeremy Heywood as an enemy of the state now.
    He IS the bloody state !
  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    Apparently it isn't a new party being launch on 9.9.17 but a fullscale revolution that will include the firing of the head of the civil service...
    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897976847111258113
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    chrisoxon said:

    Apparently it isn't a new party being launch on 9.9.17 but a fullscale revolution that will include the firing of the head of the civil service...
    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897976847111258113

    Heywood runs Twitter apparently too !
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897978482378067968 xD

    Must be some cracking ouzo.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    edited August 2017
    Pulpstar said:

    He's labelling up that well known brexiteer Jeremy Heywood as an enemy of the state now.
    He IS the bloody state !

    He's going to pull a Palpatine? "I am the senate"! :p
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    edited August 2017
    What this episode does highlight is how much personal bitterness is being fomented by this whole mess.

    It may be a sideshow in the grand scheme of things, but he's lifting the lid on the unhealthy symbiosis between certain politicians and journalists.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    edited August 2017
    williamglenn said:

    What this episode does highlight is how much personal bitterness is being fomented by this whole mess.

    It may be a sideshow in the grand scheme of things, but he's lifting the lid on the unhealthy symbiosis between certain politicians and journalists.

    Don't you mean alleged relationship between politicians and journalists?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    edited August 2017
    Tales from Los Angeles.

    Supermarkets are really, really expensive. Bread in the UK is about $1/loaf; in the US it's $2-4. Unbelievable. Not clear why bread is priced so differently.

    Australian and NZ wine is much cheaper. Dog Point Marlborough Sauvignion Blanc is £18/bottle in the UK, and $12/bottle in the US.

    Yay!
  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    edited August 2017
    RobD said:

    williamglenn said:

    What this episode does highlight is how much personal bitterness is being fomented by this whole mess.

    It may be a sideshow in the grand scheme of things, but he's lifting the lid on the unhealthy symbiosis between certain politicians and journalists.

    Don't you mean alleged relationship between politicians and journalists?
    No, that bit of the stream of drivel must be correct because it fits the desired narrative. Just ignore all the other stuff that is obviously the product of someone not thinking (for one reason for another) and accept this at face value despite the lack of any evidence...

    (The above is steeped in sarcasm btw in case anyone couldn't tell)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    chrisoxon said:

    RobD said:

    williamglenn said:

    What this episode does highlight is how much personal bitterness is being fomented by this whole mess.

    It may be a sideshow in the grand scheme of things, but he's lifting the lid on the unhealthy symbiosis between certain politicians and journalists.

    Don't you mean alleged relationship between politicians and journalists?
    No, that bit of the stream of drivel must be correct because it fits the desired narrative. Just ignore all the other stuff that is obviously the product of someone not thinking (for one reason for another) and accept this at face value despite the lack of any evidence...

    (The above is steeped in sarcasm btw in case anyone couldn't tell)
    He must be a Leave plant, it's all just too delicious. No mainstream politician is going to want to associate with a party whose leader calls the sitting PM a nazi.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    rcs1000 said:

    Tales from Los Angeles.

    Supermarkets are really, really expensive. Bread in the UK is about $1/loaf; in the US it's $2-4. Unbelievable. Not clear why bread is priced so differently.

    Australian and NZ wine is much cheaper. Dog Point Marlborough Sauvignion Blanc is £18/bottle in the UK, and $12/bottle in the US.

    Yay!

    I've been here so long I've forgotten what actual proper bread tastes like :(
  • chrisoxonchrisoxon Posts: 204
    RobD said:

    chrisoxon said:

    RobD said:

    williamglenn said:

    What this episode does highlight is how much personal bitterness is being fomented by this whole mess.

    It may be a sideshow in the grand scheme of things, but he's lifting the lid on the unhealthy symbiosis between certain politicians and journalists.

    Don't you mean alleged relationship between politicians and journalists?
    No, that bit of the stream of drivel must be correct because it fits the desired narrative. Just ignore all the other stuff that is obviously the product of someone not thinking (for one reason for another) and accept this at face value despite the lack of any evidence...

    (The above is steeped in sarcasm btw in case anyone couldn't tell)
    He must be a Leave plant, it's all just too delicious. No mainstream politician is going to want to associate with a party whose leader calls the sitting PM a nazi.
    He's not a leave plant, he's a close friend of George Osborne. More likely that the mental health "smears" made by some journalists and politicians are not actually smears - might also explain why C4 dropped their interview with him earlier today...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    RobD said:

    I've been here so long I've forgotten what actual proper bread tastes like :(

    The local sourdough bread is great.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Tales from Los Angeles.

    Supermarkets are really, really expensive. Bread in the UK is about $1/loaf; in the US it's $2-4. Unbelievable. Not clear why bread is priced so differently.

    Australian and NZ wine is much cheaper. Dog Point Marlborough Sauvignion Blanc is £18/bottle in the UK, and $12/bottle in the US.

    Yay!

    I've been here so long I've forgotten what actual proper bread tastes like :(
    You're in San Jose?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    More tales from LA:

    The cheese here is rubbish. Even Whole Foods (which you'd think would have a pretty good selection) is pretty shit.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Tales from Los Angeles.

    Supermarkets are really, really expensive. Bread in the UK is about $1/loaf; in the US it's $2-4. Unbelievable. Not clear why bread is priced so differently.

    Australian and NZ wine is much cheaper. Dog Point Marlborough Sauvignion Blanc is £18/bottle in the UK, and $12/bottle in the US.

    Yay!

    I've been here so long I've forgotten what actual proper bread tastes like :(
    You're in San Jose?
    East Bay, up in Berkeley.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    04:07 and he's still at it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    rcs1000 said:

    More tales from LA:

    The cheese here is rubbish. Even Whole Foods (which you'd think would have a pretty good selection) is pretty shit.

    Are either of you going to watch the Vandy launch on the 24th ?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    More tales from LA:

    The cheese here is rubbish. Even Whole Foods (which you'd think would have a pretty good selection) is pretty shit.

    Try Bristol Farms or Ralph's. Vons has some good stuff as well.

    Alternatively The Butcher at Crystal Cove is awesome for cheese but the prices are eye watering
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Up to a point, Lord Copper.....

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/897725234777923586
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,577
    CarlottaVance said:

    Up to a point, Lord Copper.....

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/897725234777923586

    Wait a minute. I thought Mike was the one attacking him? Are there two Mike Smithsons these days?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited August 2017
    What makes his unpleasant attacks on Theresa May even more bonkers is that his reason for calling her a 'Nazi' seems to be that he thinks she intends that EU citizens resident in the UK will be 'forcibly fingerprinted'.

    He apparently doesn't mind that, in order to get here in the first place, most of them would have been 'forcibly fingerpinted' already, in accordance with the Schengen rules for biometric passports.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    James Chapman jumped several dozen sharks several days ago, long before he called Mrs May a Nazi. His Anti-Brexit crusade has therefore not been undermined by that particular tweet; there was already no credibility left to undermine, and equally-therefore there was no "threat" as far as ministers (or anybody else) was concerned.

    Some credibility has, however, been lost by some people on Twitter who seemed to continue to take him seriously, or consider him some sort of "threat", long after it was obvious that he was merely a vacuous trollitanical megabooliak.
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    FPT:

    The problem with Brexit is simple

    The argument boils down to is our parliament sovereign or are the people sovereign. The remainers believe the former, brexiters think the latter
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    There are some reports saying that Chapman is/was planning to launch his party in a rally in Parliament Square on 9th September. Is there any evidence that he (or anybody else) has made any attempt to register the name "The Democrats" with the Electoral Commission? If not, it would be very predictable and/or likely for someone else to do so, as a spoiler / blocker / placeholder, to prevent him from doing so.
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    JohnLoony said:

    There are some reports saying that Chapman is/was planning to launch his party in a rally in Parliament Square on 9th September. Is there any evidence that he (or anybody else) has made any attempt to register the name "The Democrats" with the Electoral Commission? If not, it would be very predictable and/or likely for someone else to do so, as a spoiler / blocker / placeholder, to prevent him from doing so.

    Why worry about what he will do? Chapman wants to be a politician, the struggle now is whether politicians can override the people who are meant to be their masters.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
    why I remain reasonably polite when I do so
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
    why I remain reasonably polite when I do so
    Is it only your punctuation that goes to shit?
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
    why I remain reasonably polite when I do so
    Is it only your punctuation that goes to shit?
    punctuation is for little people, seriously you expect the rules of grammar to impinge on my consiousness when I am illuminated?
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Pagan said:

    JohnLoony said:

    There are some reports saying that Chapman is/was planning to launch his party in a rally in Parliament Square on 9th September. Is there any evidence that he (or anybody else) has made any attempt to register the name "The Democrats" with the Electoral Commission? If not, it would be very predictable and/or likely for someone else to do so, as a spoiler / blocker / placeholder, to prevent him from doing so.

    Why worry about what he will do? Chapman wants to be a politician, the struggle now is whether politicians can override the people who are meant to be their masters.
    I never said I was worrying! HAHAHA
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
    why I remain reasonably polite when I do so
    Is it only your punctuation that goes to shit?
    punctuation is for little people, seriously you expect the rules of grammar to impinge on my consiousness when I am illuminated?
    Indeed.

    No work tomorrow, I assume.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Donald Trump is shutting down his committees with business people.
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    04:07 and he's still at it.

    Dude, if you'd knocked back 2 grams of cocaine and a bottle and a half of vodka, you'd be tweeting like SeanT a madman too.
    why I remain reasonably polite when I do so
    Is it only your punctuation that goes to shit?
    punctuation is for little people, seriously you expect the rules of grammar to impinge on my consiousness when I am illuminated?
    Indeed.

    No work tomorrow, I assume.
    Of course work tomorrow I dont get days off if I want to keep my job. Besides which I am a software engineer and write better code when not in a normal state of mind
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    When sober I get angry with how things are and want to change them, a ballot box doesnt work. I dont agree with hurting folk so better to stay in a mellow state
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    UK culture wars

    just dont start them on Brexit
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    Alanbrooke said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    UK culture wars

    just dont start them on Brexit
    Force a lot of non congruent cultures into close proximity you get culture wars. Ironically brexit is not a source of disagreement as where I live in slough voted for brexit and we are a white minority area
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,259
    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
    Understanding SJWs is easy.

    Understanding why a simple concoction of wheat, yeast and heat is massively more expensive in one place than another is much less easy.

    I seek wisdom, not easy answers.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    why not bake your own

    home made sourdough is great if you have the patience but doesnt keep as long shop bought bread
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    Pagan said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    UK culture wars

    just dont start them on Brexit
    Force a lot of non congruent cultures into close proximity you get culture wars. Ironically brexit is not a source of disagreement as where I live in slough voted for brexit and we are a white minority area

    In my village I am the ethnic minority
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
    Understanding SJWs is easy.

    Understanding why a simple concoction of wheat, yeast and heat is massively more expensive in one place than another is much less easy.

    I seek wisdom, not easy answers.
    hmm well that is simple to answer, bread follows strict laws of supply and demand. Sustenance is low on the pyramid of needs. SJW's occur higher up the pyramid where they deal with first world problems only
  • PaganPagan Posts: 259
    Alanbrooke said:

    Pagan said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    UK culture wars

    just dont start them on Brexit
    Force a lot of non congruent cultures into close proximity you get culture wars. Ironically brexit is not a source of disagreement as where I live in slough voted for brexit and we are a white minority area

    In my village I am the ethnic minority
    Ah can beat that cleggy made me an ethnic minority in my own country, the bastard
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
    Understanding SJWs is easy.

    Understanding why a simple concoction of wheat, yeast and heat is massively more expensive in one place than another is much less easy.

    I seek wisdom, not easy answers.
    You're not the only one with this observation:

    5. Bread
    The aerated cake that passes for bread in this country is so unpleasant that you’ll probably end up relying on alternative starch sources, like pasta, rice and potatoes. But if you do stick with supermarket loaves, expect to pay around $4.99.

    http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/07/10-things-that-are-pricier-in-the-u-s

    I live in Jakarta and the shop bread here can be excellent but expensive - so use a Panasonic bread maker - though finding decent bread flour in the US may be a challenge, as here. I use plain bread flour and add stuff - bran, nuts, seeds.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
    Understanding SJWs is easy.

    Understanding why a simple concoction of wheat, yeast and heat is massively more expensive in one place than another is much less easy.

    I seek wisdom, not easy answers.
    the mystery deepens when you turn those same ingredients in to beer
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,621
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    What has the price of bread to do with misguided people who only ever see things from one point of view?
    Understanding SJWs is easy.

    Understanding why a simple concoction of wheat, yeast and heat is massively more expensive in one place than another is much less easy.

    I seek wisdom, not easy answers.
    Subsidies to farmers that grow wheat?

    In the sandpit the bread comes in at $1.50, and it's made with flour that's been on a boat trip from Europe.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,621
    So someone finally got to James Champan and shut up his Twitter account.
    Hope he gets the help he quite clearly needs.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    https://twitter.com/sparklecreek/status/897993873464713216
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    While Trump talks about a wall Bulgaria has built one

    with armed guards too

    http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/bulgarien-will-grenze-zur-tuerkei-verstaerkt-mit-militaer-schuetzen-15154914.html
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    Sandpit said:

    So someone finally got to James Champan and shut up his Twitter account.
    Hope he gets the help he quite clearly needs.

    It was up and down all night..
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,720
    Fly the flag ...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-40956919/us-woman-confronts-her-neighbour-over-nazi-flag
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    JosiasJessop said:

    Fly the flag ...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-40956919/us-woman-confronts-her-neighbour-over-nazi-flag

    and it's been such a relaxed thread this morning
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    My commiserations Mike, it must be a severe disappointment to you and other Remainers. :D
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    JosiasJessop said:

    Fly the flag ...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-40956919/us-woman-confronts-her-neighbour-over-nazi-flag

    On the subject of flags, and with the 70th anniversary of Indian and Pakistan independencd, you may like this flag lowering ceremony:

    https://youtu.be/VXVMIOT-EFg
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,186
    Ha! Only 96 hours after he was proclaimed as the great new thing on this blog. I warned ardent Remainers off him and was accused of "wishful thinking".

    Turns out I was right.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,186
    MikeSmithson said:

    Attacking people because they are bald doesn't endear Chapman to those who are.

    https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/897962759450656769

    I warned you. But you wanted to believe and like him because he was strongly anti-Brexit and a very firm Remainer.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,186
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    Perhaps it isn't the same mass market product it is in the UK.

    Do Americans eat bread a lot with everything?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,152
    Hate to say it Mike, but you were told that he wasn't good news for remain and that he would have no credibility.

    Do you still think the people who said such things were 'pathetic'?

    We all make mistakes but taking Chapman seriously was, well, shall we say courageous.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    Another money grab.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,152
    Incidentally I had a very strange experience this morning. It was disturbing. And alarming. And made me wondering if the stress of waiting for results has sent me off my head.

    I entirely agreed with something Jeremy Corbyn said.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc.co.uk/politics/parties/labour/jeremy-corbyn/silencing-big-ben-not-national-disaster-corbyn/

    Incidentally I shall not be coming back on here today for a variety of reasons. Please do not assume if you don't hear from me that A-levels were a disaster, although I'm naturally nervous.

    Good luck to those with family members getting results.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    ydoethur said:

    Hate to say it Mike, but you were told that he wasn't good news for remain and that he would have no credibility.

    Do you still think the people who said such things were 'pathetic'?

    We all make mistakes but taking Chapman seriously was, well, shall we say courageous.

    Those who suggested Chapman might not be in an entirely happy place were accused of 'baseless smears'....
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    edited August 2017
    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    it could be that you were wittering non stop on Trump and Brexit and never stopped to discuss it
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    ydoethur said:

    Incidentally I had a very strange experience this morning. It was disturbing. And alarming. And made me wondering if the stress of waiting for results has sent me off my head.

    I entirely agreed with something Jeremy Corbyn said.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc.co.uk/politics/parties/labour/jeremy-corbyn/silencing-big-ben-not-national-disaster-corbyn/

    Incidentally I shall not be coming back on here today for a variety of reasons. Please do not assume if you don't hear from me that A-levels were a disaster, although I'm naturally nervous.

    Good luck to those with family members getting results.

    Agreed.. it'd be more of a disaster if the repairs weren't done properly and in a timely (ahem) fashion.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    I imagine we'll be hearing plenty more about it. The Tory strategy is now perfectly clear: despite the election result, they're planning to walk out of the Brexit negotiations and will hope to do so having built a huge well of grievance against the EU. This case will be a part of that.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,679
    Has he made a new account? - https://twitter.com/jameschapers

    *grabs the popcorn*
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,775
    Casino_Royale said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    Perhaps it isn't the same mass market product it is in the UK.

    Do Americans eat bread a lot with everything?
    Isn't American bread different?
    I seem to remember it was quite a bit sweeter and took longer to go stale...
    Perhaps bread/day price is similar.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,982
    SouthamObserver said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    I imagine we'll be hearing plenty more about it. The Tory strategy is now perfectly clear: despite the election result, they're planning to walk out of the Brexit negotiations and will hope to do so having built a huge well of grievance against the EU. This case will be a part of that.

    err werent remainers compiaining that there would be lots of fraud if we left the EU

    seems thats theres lots of it while were in it too
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,583
    CarlottaVance said:

    ydoethur said:

    Hate to say it Mike, but you were told that he wasn't good news for remain and that he would have no credibility.

    Do you still think the people who said such things were 'pathetic'?

    We all make mistakes but taking Chapman seriously was, well, shall we say courageous.

    Those who suggested Chapman might not be in an entirely happy place were accused of 'baseless smears'....
    I blame his wife. Why didn’t she take his phone from him sooner?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Alanbrooke said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    I imagine we'll be hearing plenty more about it. The Tory strategy is now perfectly clear: despite the election result, they're planning to walk out of the Brexit negotiations and will hope to do so having built a huge well of grievance against the EU. This case will be a part of that.

    err werent remainers compiaining that there would be lots of fraud if we left the EU

    seems thats theres lots of it while were in it too

    Still delighted for you that you and your family will not lose the rights that you voted to remove from mine. Cheers!

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    RobD said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    Another money grab.

    Have we killed as many as the German auto industry?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    rkrkrk said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    Perhaps it isn't the same mass market product it is in the UK.

    Do Americans eat bread a lot with everything?
    Isn't American bread different?
    I seem to remember it was quite a bit sweeter and took longer to go stale...
    Perhaps bread/day price is similar.

    It's very expensive in Canada, too. Given how much wheat the US and Canada produce it's kind of strange it should be that way.

  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,775
    SouthamObserver said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    Perhaps it isn't the same mass market product it is in the UK.

    Do Americans eat bread a lot with everything?
    Isn't American bread different?
    I seem to remember it was quite a bit sweeter and took longer to go stale...
    Perhaps bread/day price is similar.

    It's very expensive in Canada, too. Given how much wheat the US and Canada produce it's kind of strange it should be that way.

    Shall we open a pb.com bakery?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    RobD said:

    Has he made a new account? - https://twitter.com/jameschapers

    *grabs the popcorn*

    It does seem genuine - though it would be difficult to tell from a parody account over the past few days.....
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    edited August 2017
    I see Ireland's Ian Dunt is thrilled with the UK Border proposals:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/16/uk-government-border-proposals-ireland-brexit-position-paper
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    highly relevant?
    You mean you were enjoying the smears !
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    CarlottaVance said:

    I see Ireland's Ian Dunt is thrilled with the UK Border proposals:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/16/uk-government-border-proposals-ireland-brexit-position-paper

    Where do you think his analysis falls down?

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Alanbrooke said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    it could be that you were wittering non stop on Trump and Brexit and never stopped to discuss it
    On the subject of Trump, it does seem that his father was arrested (but not charged) at a KKK rally in 1927.

    https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/mvke38/all-the-evidence-we-could-find-about-fred-trumps-alleged-involvement-with-the-kkk
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    rkrkrk said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Shit 4 am and people are blogging

    whats it like to be a resident of Trumpton rcs ?

    Expensive bread, cheap New Zealand wine, terrible cheese.

    People seem more exercised over Charlottesville on pb, than in LA.
    PB is full of SJW's thse days what did you expect
    I don't mean to sound obsessive, but why is bread three times the price in the US it is in the UK. And it's worse too.

    Why???
    Perhaps it isn't the same mass market product it is in the UK.

    Do Americans eat bread a lot with everything?
    Isn't American bread different?
    I seem to remember it was quite a bit sweeter and took longer to go stale...
    Perhaps bread/day price is similar.

    It's very expensive in Canada, too. Given how much wheat the US and Canada produce it's kind of strange it should be that way.

    Shall we open a pb.com bakery?
    for toast?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    That's Owen Jones off Chapper's Christmas card list:

    If a new so-called centrist party is to be set up, why not call it Denial, or perhaps Hubris?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/17/centrists-attack-left-extremists-labour-moderates?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited August 2017
    SouthamObserver said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    A few days old, but why haven't we heard more about this case? Particularly with customs arrangements such a topic for discussion.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-faces-e2-billion-eu-payment-for-china-fraud-trade/amp/

    I imagine we'll be hearing plenty more about it. The Tory strategy is now perfectly clear: despite the election result, they're planning to walk out of the Brexit negotiations and will hope to do so having built a huge well of grievance against the EU. This case will be a part of that.

    It is quite a substantial fine, but perhaps most serious is that UK customs seem implicated.

    Any light touch customs arrangement post Brexit requires mutual trust and honesty. We may have blotted our copybook.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    James Chapman has at least established that there's a ready audience, on Twitter at least, for a new party that takes on Brexit. But he's not the hero we need.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I do hope the tabloid newspapers manage to find some very bright, very curvy triplets today. The picture editors' fingernails must be down to their quicks.
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