It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
Quite good satire but you have to remember about a third of the posters on her are Faragists and they'll be salivating.
....and Easyjet moving it's HQ to Austria. The good news just keeps coming
Except it isnt. Not surprising to see you salivating over what you think is something bad for the UK but rather amusing that yet again you are wrong. Your eagerness to see bad things inflicted on the country you have deserted makes you probe to even more mistakes than usual.
What's bad for the UK in my opinion is Little Englanders so obviously we see things differently. Here's your man
Straw man. You claimed Easy Jet was moving its HQ to Austria. It isn't. You were so eager to see damage done to the country you read what you wanted to read instead of the facts.
Except I happen to know something about the North East of Scotland and this Moray seat. The result of the local election last night was effectively the same as the local election in May.
As a low turnout by election the Tories should have done much better and certainly better than the General Election in June where they improved on their local government performance.
They didn't despite the afterglow of their victory and the SNP defeat. That would tell me that the pendulum is already swinging back to the NATS, just a few weeks after the election.
There is a buy election in Inverurie coming up. Let us just see what transpires.
Elgin City North (Moray) result: CON: 40.0% (+7.0) SNP: 38.8% (+6.1) LAB: 15.8% (+3.8) IND: 5.4% (-16.9) Con GAIN from Independent.
I know many think only Labour can gain from the SNP in future elections with the tories maxed out. I agree Labour have more potential gains but the Tories could easily get 5/6 more as well. Also of course Labour gains from the SNP don't really alter the overall H/C arithmetic.
But 4/5 of this year's Tory gains from the SNP are likely to be vulnerable to Labour winning from third place next time.
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
Stones are a curious measure, used only for weighing people. Mind you, the USA is particularly devoted to old measures. Personally I got used to SI measures in science, and we use metric for calculating dosages at work. I think in Metric now.
"A man thought to be one of the first UK Muslims to have a same-sex marriage said people have threatened to throw acid in his face since the ceremony. Jahed Choudhury, 24, married Sean Rogan at Walsall Register Office and shared his story on YouTube. However, he told the Victoria Derbyshire Show he had been threatened online and in the street."
There is only one possible course of action for government and the Conservative Party, which is to follow the advice of Winston Churchill and keep buggering on. We need to get through the Article 50 process, sort out as much of the mess as possible, beef up the party organisation and strategy, and leave time for Corbyn to burn out and Labour's unity to collapse under the weight of its own contradictions. Possibly it would have been better to have done all that under a different leader (Phil Hammond), but the moment for a swift coup has passed.
OTOH, you could stick with May, go down to a huge defeat in 2022 and spend the next 20 years in Opposition.
Works for me.
The country will be fine if the Conservatives aren't in Government.
Why post something you know not to be true Every Labour Govt has eventually trashed the economy in the last 50 yrs.
In that case the Tories were even worse. The economy was in better shape in October 1951 than in July 1945. In 1964 Labour inherited a big Balance of Payments Deficit yet bequeathed to the Tories in June 1970 a Balance of Payments Surplus AND a Budget Surplus. Even Thatcher's inheritance in May 1979 was nothing like as dire as that faced by Labour in March 1974 when Heath left office. Never forget that no Tory Government has managed to pass on a Budget Surplus to Labour - nor a Balance of Payments Surplus. Labour has managed to do both!
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
Stones are a curious measure, used only for weighing people. Mind you, the USA is particularly devoted to old measures. Personally I got used to SI measures in science, and we use metric for calculating dosages at work. I think in Metric now.
No one buys a stone of potatoes.
When I was a student we used to have to calculate doses and formulae using both systems, and be able to convert doses either way. It was quite complicated and I was glad when we switched to metric only.
I’ve still got an old set of weights from student days; grains, scruples drachms and apothecaries ounces.
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
OneNote the problems of metrication. We have bred generations unable to.do simple mental maths.
But hopefully who understand the physical properties of water....
I understand them very well as I use hem in calculations in my work daily. If you actually go and look at the original comment I was answering it referred to expansion of water compared to fuels.
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
OneNote the problems of metrication. We have bred generations unable to.do simple mental maths.
But hopefully who understand the physical properties of water....
I understand them very well as I use hem in calculations in my work daily. If you actually go and look at the original comment I was answering it referred to expansion of water compared to fuels.
You said the density didn't change with temperature, no?
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
Stones are a curious measure, used only for weighing people. Mind you, the USA is particularly devoted to old measures. Personally I got used to SI measures in science, and we use metric for calculating dosages at work. I think in Metric now.
No one buys a stone of potatoes.
It is the american insistence on using "cups" as a measure in cooking that drives me mad. It would not be so bad if there was only one definition of a "cup" instead of about 9 different definitions.
Oddly enough, americans reading non-USA recipes seem to really struggle with grams.
Except I happen to know something about the North East of Scotland and this Moray seat. The result of the local election last night was effectively the same as the local election in May.
As a low turnout by election the Tories should have done much better and certainly better than the General Election in June where they improved on their local government performance.
They didn't despite the afterglow of their victory and the SNP defeat. That would tell me that the pendulum is already swinging back to the NATS, just a few weeks after the election.
There is a buy election in Inverurie coming up. Let us just see what transpires.
"Buy election" ? Is that a typo, or are the SNP contemplating extreme measures... ?
You are dreaming Felix. The Tories are already on the way down in Scotland. Labour are a different matter but luckily for the NATS the Scottish Labour non leadership are capable of undoing any good that Corbyn is doing them.
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
OneNote the problems of metrication. We have bred generations unable to.do simple mental maths.
But hopefully who understand the physical properties of water....
I understand them very well as I use hem in calculations in my work daily. If you actually go and look at the original comment I was answering it referred to expansion of water compared to fuels.
You said the density didn't change with temperature, no?
Anyway, sorry for having a dig.
As on so many of these discussions context is everythimg.
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
OneNote the problems of metrication. We have bred generations unable to.do simple mental maths.
I have no problem with metrification for science, maths and physics.
I have no problem with imperial units for estimating lengths, heights, weights, volumes, and governing horse-racing, driving, and many aspects of aviation and railways.
Any competent engineer (and am I one) can use and understand both and the conversions are good for maintaining mental agility.
The trouble with metric units is that they are extremely anodyne, and boring, not always particularly 'human', and certainly not very British.
O/T there's a great article from Lewis Baston on Con Home about movements in seats in recent elections.
Since 2010, the Conservatives have won 20 from Labour, 26 from the Lib Dems, 3 from the SNP, but have lost 36 to Labour, 1 to Lib Dems. That's the kind of pattern one last saw in the 1920's as old allegiances broke down.
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
That's exactly why I voted Leave.
No idea what "a ***" is supposed to be, but I voted for that too.
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
That's exactly why I voted Leave.
No idea what "a ***" is supposed to be, but I voted for that too.
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
Quite good satire but you have to remember about a third of the posters on her are Faragists and they'll be salivating.
....and Easyjet moving it's HQ to Austria. The good news just keeps coming
Except it isnt. Not surprising to see you salivating over what you think is something bad for the UK but rather amusing that yet again you are wrong. Your eagerness to see bad things inflicted on the country you have deserted makes you probe to even more mistakes than usual.
What's bad for the UK in my opinion is Little Englanders so obviously we see things differently. Here's your man
Straw man. You claimed Easy Jet was moving its HQ to Austria. It isn't. You were so eager to see damage done to the country you read what you wanted to read instead of the facts.
It's like taking too ScottP at face value when he posts the vast majority of his tweets on Brexit from David Allen Green, Jo Maugham QC, Faisal Islam and the FT.
His (campaigning) hope is to create an overbearing sense of doom and despair, to influence opinion, but he's actually just quoting very selectively from a small group of highly subjective people.
O/T there's a great article from Lewis Baston on Con Home about movements in seats in recent elections.
Since 2010, the Conservatives have won 20 from Labour, 26 from the Lib Dems, 3 from the SNP, but have lost 36 to Labour, 1 to Lib Dems. That's the kind of pattern one last saw in the 1920's as old allegiances broke down.
I've certainly noticed allegiances change within my (graduate and highly educated) middle-class circle. I feel quite socially isolated talking about politics now, to be honest.
But, at the same time, there are others I don't work or socialise with regularly, who have switched to the Conservatives.
It might be better for my morale if I hung around with a few more of them.
You didn't negotiate that well if it started off a £400 a sq m and you are now paying £220 a sq ft.. (hint there are 10.7sq ft to a sq m)
OK. Smart Alec. Sq.m all the way.
I thought you were a closet LEAVER there, pining for Imperial.......
Sadly, feet and inches is what I think about instinctively. But using 2.5cm = 1 inch I am converting to metric in my thinking. Since I have been using weighing scales in kgs, sooner or later you get used to it. Temperature is now in C for a long time. We don't need to hear 80's but 25C is enough [ 77F ]. I am pretty good in mental arithmetic.
Metric is definitely better.
For Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion and back again, the reverse numbers are easy to remember and use (and equate to "warm-to-hot border" and "cool-to-chilly border"):
28 (reverses to 82) 16 (reverses to 61)
Those are fairly exact swaps as well: 28C is 82 F [technically 82.4], and 16C is 61F [well, 60.8]; they're accurate to 2 sig figs.
Every day is a school day on PB!
Over the typical northern temperature range "double it and add 30" is a close approximation.
The best such approximation I have heard about in metric is the thumbs rule relationship between height and weight.
So, if your height is 180 cm, your desired weight should be 80 kgs.
In old money, 5'11" ~ 176 lbs.
That is a reasonbly good rule of thumb over the normal height range.
I have shed 10kg over 10 weeks, but another 6 to go. Current BMI 25.7.
Was it 16:8 or 5:2 or just plain restraint and willpower ?
O/T there's a great article from Lewis Baston on Con Home about movements in seats in recent elections.
Since 2010, the Conservatives have won 20 from Labour, 26 from the Lib Dems, 3 from the SNP, but have lost 36 to Labour, 1 to Lib Dems. That's the kind of pattern one last saw in the 1920's as old allegiances broke down.
I've certainly noticed allegiances change within my (graduate and highly educated) middle-class circle. I feel quite socially isolated talking about politics now, to be honest.
But, at the same time, there are others I don't work or socialise with regularly, who have switched to the Conservatives.
It might be better for my morale if I hung around with a few more of them.
Perversely, the Tories would do better if house prices actually fell !
11 stone = 70 kg for those who think in stones but measure in kg.
I think in stones and measure in stones.
I can't manage when Americans quote someone's weight* in pounds - I can't divide by 14 in my head.
*Strictly mass, but I am using lay-language.
Stones are a curious measure, used only for weighing people. Mind you, the USA is particularly devoted to old measures. Personally I got used to SI measures in science, and we use metric for calculating dosages at work. I think in Metric now.
No one buys a stone of potatoes.
When I was a student we used to have to calculate doses and formulae using both systems, and be able to convert doses either way. It was quite complicated and I was glad when we switched to metric only.
I’ve still got an old set of weights from student days; grains, scruples drachms and apothecaries ounces.
When I was tidying up the attic recently, I came across one of my old exercise books. I really couldn't remember all the different measures, weights and lengths that we, as school kids back in the 1950’s had to learn and be able to work through..
It will all be ok in two years time we can have pounds and ounzes, miles not kilograms and go back to pounds shillings and pence. There will be flat beer watching cricket on the village green an cucumber sandwiches for tea with the vicar. The tories will retain their destinly in life to rule over us and everything will be ok. We can call a q**** a q****r and a *** a *** but it will be wonderful
That's exactly why I voted Leave.
No idea what "a ***" is supposed to be, but I voted for that too.
Arse?
There's a space in there so I don't think so.
Looking at the comment again "gay" might work in contexr?
O/T there's a great article from Lewis Baston on Con Home about movements in seats in recent elections.
Since 2010, the Conservatives have won 20 from Labour, 26 from the Lib Dems, 3 from the SNP, but have lost 36 to Labour, 1 to Lib Dems. That's the kind of pattern one last saw in the 1920's as old allegiances broke down.
I've certainly noticed allegiances change within my (graduate and highly educated) middle-class circle. I feel quite socially isolated talking about politics now, to be honest.
But, at the same time, there are others I don't work or socialise with regularly, who have switched to the Conservatives.
It might be better for my morale if I hung around with a few more of them.
Perversely, the Tories would do better if house prices actually fell !
The long-run decline in home ownership - which in terms of real lives means people in decent jobs renting into their 30s and beyond, when a generation earlier they would have been well onto the ladder - is certainly the biggest factor undermining the normal tendency for people to become more Conservative-inclined as they reach middle age.
They might as well stick with May for now and I say that as someone who thought she should have quit on 9 June. Find some hopefully promising junior ministers and groom them for leadership _ the current cabinet are mostly over 60 so aren't the future.
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Except I happen to know something about the North East of Scotland and this Moray seat. The result of the local election last night was effectively the same as the local election in May.
As a low turnout by election the Tories should have done much better and certainly better than the General Election in June where they improved on their local government performance.
They didn't despite the afterglow of their victory and the SNP defeat. That would tell me that the pendulum is already swinging back to the NATS, just a few weeks after the election.
There is a buy election in Inverurie coming up. Let us just see what transpires.
No one buys a stone of potatoes.
"A man thought to be one of the first UK Muslims to have a same-sex marriage said people have threatened to throw acid in his face since the ceremony.
Jahed Choudhury, 24, married Sean Rogan at Walsall Register Office and shared his story on YouTube.
However, he told the Victoria Derbyshire Show he had been threatened online and in the street."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-40609482
Never forget that no Tory Government has managed to pass on a Budget Surplus to Labour - nor a Balance of Payments Surplus. Labour has managed to do both!
I’ve still got an old set of weights from student days; grains, scruples drachms and apothecaries ounces.
Anyway, sorry for having a dig.
Oddly enough, americans reading non-USA recipes seem to really struggle with grams.
Is that a typo, or are the SNP contemplating extreme measures... ?
You are dreaming Felix. The Tories are already on the way down in Scotland. Labour are a different matter but luckily for the NATS the Scottish Labour non leadership are capable of undoing any good that Corbyn is doing them.
NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
Still he has noted an interesting issue:
https://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-network/2016/aug/30/female-train-drivers-equality-diversity-network-london-underground-overground
The explanation seems to be that train drivers stay in the job so long that the attitudes of several decades ago still tend to determine employment...
Where do I sign?
I have no problem with imperial units for estimating lengths, heights, weights, volumes, and governing horse-racing, driving, and many aspects of aviation and railways.
Any competent engineer (and am I one) can use and understand both and the conversions are good for maintaining mental agility.
The trouble with metric units is that they are extremely anodyne, and boring, not always particularly 'human', and certainly not very British.
Since 2010, the Conservatives have won 20 from Labour, 26 from the Lib Dems, 3 from the SNP, but have lost 36 to Labour, 1 to Lib Dems. That's the kind of pattern one last saw in the 1920's as old allegiances broke down.
No idea what "a ***" is supposed to be, but I voted for that too.
His (campaigning) hope is to create an overbearing sense of doom and despair, to influence opinion, but he's actually just quoting very selectively from a small group of highly subjective people.
The percentage only matters when you take into account the other one. If Con - Lab was 47-45, would we expect a landslide ? More of the same actually.
Just listen to this terrific piece from Hans Zimmer. So intense, you feel you're there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VJ39nVIBk
But, at the same time, there are others I don't work or socialise with regularly, who have switched to the Conservatives.
It might be better for my morale if I hung around with a few more of them.
Looking at the comment again "gay" might work in contexr?