Mr. Surbiton, it's the reign of Her Majesty. And during that time we have, uniquely amongst all the nations of the globe, won the world cups of football, rugby and cricket.
When did we win the cricket world cup? I thought that was never?
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
It was slow, it was agonising, it was unmissable.
You mean Monty and Graeme Swann, don't you?
Sorry, ignore me, you're right. I was just being diverted by the memory of Steven Fry's line "Ah, the sound of leather on Graeme Swann"
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
Nobody pays tax or not based on their age. I think the elderly don't pay NI but that aside we pay based on what we are earning.
NI is massive.
Yes, it's utterly bizarre that oldies who still working don't pay it. (The employer does pay the Employer's Contribution, though).
You can think of it that way, but since it is levied on the employee's wages and comes and goes as employees start and leave, then ER's is really a tax levied on the employee.
Calling it Employer's NI is a huge lie which is only secondary to pretending that National Insurance insures anything. It is simply used to track eligibility for pensions and to fund next week's pensions payout. It should really be called National Pension Fund. It would be more honest.
Nobody pays tax or not based on their age. I think the elderly don't pay NI but that aside we pay based on what we are earning.
That's obviously true and I didn't suggest otherwise. However, there is equally obviously a negative correlation between age and being in work, and a positive correlation between age and owning property (and other wealth). The dichotomy I point to is that we tax income a lot and wealth not so much which, owing to these correlations, corresponds to taxing the young a lot and the old not so much. This is actually a political choice, but we are so used to income taxation that I believe we frequently forget this. Once we remember that it is a choice, we can ask whether we have chosen equitably.
Until then, we will forever have Nick Timothy and his acolytes remarking that the old seem to want the young to pay for their "free stuff" (or vice versa as the situation dictates). Obviously it will appear that way if we tax only income and provide public services, such as care, which the old use disproportionately. But, as I said to Mr Meeks, this characterisation of the old is a non-sequitur. The old may well be happy to contribute some known fraction of their wealth as part of an equitable general taxation settlement. That question wasn't put to them. What seems clear now is that they are not so keen to contribute an unknown, random, and possibly catastrophic fraction of it. This is unsurprising to me.
On the topic of sprinkler systems for high rise apartment buildings, I was dubious about whether it would be possible practically to retrofit systems in old buildings. Doing a quick search, at least one company claims to be able to provide 'boosted cold water supply' systems for as little as £400 per apartment - which in the context of this £10m refurbishment might have added around 5% to the cost. Here are case studies on their website: http://www.trianglesprinklersystems.co.uk/case-study
Of course it's way too early to say that an installed system would have made any difference to last night's tragic event (particularly as it's possible the problem lay with the external cladding) I also readily concede that I don't know how easy it might have been to fit such as system in this building, but it does cast further light on the general 'not enough resources' claims. In the context of a major refurbishment, such sums are not unaffordable.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
On radio 4 this aft they were saying that new gas risers had been installed. Using the stairwells. Which of course are the exits in event of fire.
Just listening to the radio driving home, discussing the horrific events in Kensington. This is a huge scandal in waiting given the evidence of resident concerns, failure to properly learn and implement the lessons from previous fires etc. It will go to the heart of how local Government operates these days.
Mr. Me, hmm. I could've sworn we did (must admit, I don't follow it).
Well, by itself the rugby and football titles are uniquely both won by us.
To be honest there are probably only two countries in the world that could realistically pull that off.
Though the Scots might have managed it in the 70s and 80s.
Being a Scottish football and rugby fan must be a painful experience.
Argentina were rugby semifinalists in 2015. And most leading rugby nations have either made or ought to have made a football world cup quarterfinal at their peak.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
Agreed. As good as it is to cook upon, I have always been uneasy about gas in houses and especially in large blocks. It seems easier for it to go badly wrong than electricity.
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
It was slow, it was agonising, it was unmissable.
I was at headingly in 1981. Unfortunately on day 2, not 4 or 5.
So incase people are wondering how Twitter liberal-bubble-verse is reacting to the tower fire my timeline is wall-to-wall-wall on the list of Con MPs who are landlords who voted against the bill that was portrayed as making rented accommodation fit for human habitation.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
Agreed. As good as it is to cook upon, I have always been uneasy about gas in houses and especially in large blocks. It seems easier for it to go badly wrong than electricity.
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
It was slow, it was agonising, it was unmissable.
I was at headingly in 1981. Unfortunately on day 2, not 4 or 5.
That's delightfully and refreshingly honest, although very unfortunate for you.
I think Botham once observed that more people have told him they were there than the ground could physically have held!
So incase people are wondering how Twitter liberal-bubble-verse is reacting to the tower fire my timeline is wall-to-wall-wall on the list of Con MPs who are landlords who voted against the bill that was portrayed as making rented accommodation fit for human habitation.
Yuck. These people really are the nastiest of the nasty (and I don't mean the MPs).
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
I still relive the first Ashes test of the 2009 series as Monty Panesar and James Anderson batted to draw the test match, every dot ball was cheered like winning a game.
It was slow, it was agonising, it was unmissable.
I was at headingly in 1981. Unfortunately on day 2, not 4 or 5.
That's delightfully and refreshingly honest, although very unfortunate for you.
I think Botham once observed that more people have told him they were there than the ground could physically have held!
Ha. I can believe that. I think he did get a 50 in the first innings which might have been on day 2. Long time ago though. Probs day 3. As I think they declared quite late on day 2.
On the topic of sprinkler systems for high rise apartment buildings, I was dubious about whether it would be possible practically to retrofit systems in old buildings. Doing a quick search, at least one company claims to be able to provide 'boosted cold water supply' systems for as little as £400 per apartment - which in the context of this £10m refurbishment might have added around 5% to the cost. Here are case studies on their website: http://www.trianglesprinklersystems.co.uk/case-study
Of course it's way too early to say that an installed system would have made any difference to last night's tragic event (particularly as it's possible the problem lay with the external cladding) I also readily concede that I don't know how easy it might have been to fit such as system in this building, but it does cast further light on the general 'not enough resources' claims. In the context of a major refurbishment, such sums are not unaffordable.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
I thought that gas supply was banned from buildings more than four stories high because of the fire hazard. Maybe that was a red tape regulation that was ditched.
YouGov's figures are interesting that there is no significant class difference between the parties but there is a big educational difference - essentially, the higher your level of education, the more likely you are to vote Labour (49-32 for people with degrees, 33-55 for people with just GCSEs). You might expect that to be linked with class but evidently it's not, presumably because if you're wealthy but made your way without higher education you're more likely to be Tory (think ambitious entrepreneur) while if you're poor but well-educated the reverse (think dedicated schoolteacher).
All kinds of generalised value judgments are tempting and best avoided; mainly it's just interesting and helps understand how politics is moving.
It's all multicollinearity. Older people have lower qualifications. The same is true for the "vote share v health" charts that were circulated recently. Older people have worse health.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
On the topic of sprinkler systems for high rise apartment buildings, I was dubious about whether it would be possible practically to retrofit systems in old buildings. Doing a quick search, at least one company claims to be able to provide 'boosted cold water supply' systems for as little as £400 per apartment - which in the context of this £10m refurbishment might have added around 5% to the cost. Here are case studies on their website: http://www.trianglesprinklersystems.co.uk/case-study
Of course it's way too early to say that an installed system would have made any difference to last night's tragic event (particularly as it's possible the problem lay with the external cladding) I also readily concede that I don't know how easy it might have been to fit such as system in this building, but it does cast further light on the general 'not enough resources' claims. In the context of a major refurbishment, such sums are not unaffordable.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
I thought that gas supply was banned from buildings more than four stories high because of the fire hazard. Maybe that was a red tape regulation that was ditched.
Red tape ditching is only ever a political slogan. In reality it never ever happens. Ever. Too many hi-viz wearing box-ticker salaries make sure of that.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
One of the interesting points I heard this afternoon was that the fire service were delayed reaching the last few floors at the top because of a fractured gas main. Surely if that is correct, it would be better to have only electrical power supplies to blocks of flats rather than gas supplies?
Agreed. As good as it is to cook upon, I have always been uneasy about gas in houses and especially in large blocks. It seems easier for it to go badly wrong than electricity.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
I'm on Farron as first to go at 3.5 on BF (from a couple of weeks ago).
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
So incase people are wondering how Twitter liberal-bubble-verse is reacting to the tower fire my timeline is wall-to-wall-wall on the list of Con MPs who are landlords who voted against the bill that was portrayed as making rented accommodation fit for human habitation.
Yuck. These people really are the nastiest of the nasty (and I don't mean the MPs).
For all we know it could just be the cladding was flammable and/or was unfortunately installed in such a way that enabled the fire to spread rapidly. Pinning stuff on politicians at this very early stage is ridiculous and entirely politically driven. I will name one of the most prominent examples of the Twitter liberal-verse as you describe it - Paul Lewis of BBC Moneybox. He has a large very twitter following from people hoping for financial advice. Most of the time he is ruthlessly promoting his hard liberal and leftist political beliefs and within a few hours of this tragedy he was at it again doing all he can to shift the blame on to the Tory gov't, the Tory council or for good measure Boris Johnson as former mayor. Insidious.
So incase people are wondering how Twitter liberal-bubble-verse is reacting to the tower fire my timeline is wall-to-wall-wall on the list of Con MPs who are landlords who voted against the bill that was portrayed as making rented accommodation fit for human habitation.
Yuck. These people really are the nastiest of the nasty (and I don't mean the MPs).
What does such a law add to existing laws and regulations about rented housing?
I doubt Lynton Crosby will be running any more conservative campaigns. I'm glad about that because I feel things have moved on so much, particularly where social media is concerned.
I would like to see Matthew Elliott, who ran the Vote Leave campaign, given the job.
Just been out for my early evening beer with a group of brits living in spain, the tragedy that has unfurled today was not worthy of discussion, compare that to the terrorist attacks and they couldnt hold back. I do wonder about humanity. As an aside i said tim would go on monday before the weekend so was wrong by two days
From what I have seen of Jeremy Corbyn these last two days, on both occasions heading to the House of Lords, he seemed to ignore the PM and looked a little cocky. He might feel he is entitled to, but it never lasts long. He doesn't seem to have any idea how to behave.
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
I'm on Farron as first to go at 3.5 on BF (from a couple of weeks ago).
Timothy asking "Why didn't Crosby and Messina TELL us we were behaving like suicidal twats"....?
Quite right too. You don't pay the likes of Crosby and Messina the big bucks if they aren't in charge of strategy. I think they're vastly overrated. A very old fashioned and wrong headed campaign as was the one for Zak.
They hadn't taken the vital first step of understanding the make up of London and ran an immigration led campaign designed for Hartlepool. Their greatest achievement was pushing the blame onto Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
I'm on Farron as first to go at 3.5 on BF (from a couple of weeks ago).
It looks like Tim Farron is in trouble. Who saw that coming?
What sort of trouble exactly? Don't tease.
Only the BBC news which says Paddick has gone blaming Farron's strange relationship with you- know-who adding 'the knives are out'. That rarely ends happily.
Ah thanks.
It could be good news for May if true. Nothing like a leadership election with some Big Beasts taking part to divert attention.
Indeed. I presumed he would be replaced before the next election but maybe not this soon. I think there's a "first leader to go" market kicking around somewhere but not anywhere I have an account.
Betfair exchange. Oddschecker says farron 4/11 but probs out of date and v little liquidity.
I'm on Farron as first to go at 3.5 on BF (from a couple of weeks ago).
Nice one
cheers. It was looking so dodgy for LibDems thru most of the campaign that i thought he would have to go.
Comments
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/may/02/20-great-ashes-moments-cardiff
(I think this has been about the fourth time this week this link has been posted, usually as a political metaphor.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8146497.stm
Calling it Employer's NI is a huge lie which is only secondary to pretending that National Insurance insures anything. It is simply used to track eligibility for pensions and to fund next week's pensions payout. It should really be called National Pension Fund. It would be more honest.
Until then, we will forever have Nick Timothy and his acolytes remarking that the old seem to want the young to pay for their "free stuff" (or vice versa as the situation dictates). Obviously it will appear that way if we tax only income and provide public services, such as care, which the old use disproportionately. But, as I said to Mr Meeks, this characterisation of the old is a non-sequitur. The old may well be happy to contribute some known fraction of their wealth as part of an equitable general taxation settlement. That question wasn't put to them. What seems clear now is that they are not so keen to contribute an unknown, random, and possibly catastrophic fraction of it. This is unsurprising to me.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/875029429390643201
Mr. Eagles, that might end up helping the government.
Incidentally, suggestions on Twitter some students voted twice.
I think Botham once observed that more people have told him they were there than the ground could physically have held!
The same is true for the "vote share v health" charts that were circulated recently. Older people have worse health.
In reality it never ever happens. Ever.
Too many hi-viz wearing box-ticker salaries make sure of that.
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/875039205965148160
http://www.propertyindustryeye.com/huge-change-facing-property-world-as-gas-looks-set-to-be-phased-out/
Nick Timothy lays into Lynton Crosby and Jim Messina over Tory campaign 'failure'
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/theresa-may/news/86701/nick-timothy-lays-lynton-crosby
No other business scheduled on the HoC site.
The State Opening of Parliament will take place on Monday 19 June 2017, this will mark the formal start of the parliamentary year.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2017/june/house-of-commons-returns-on-13-june-2017/
I suppose Liz might pop down for a chat in the Lords with Lord Paddick but then again ....
If Swinson wants it (she is a young mum) she will walk it.
Vince would be the wrong choice.
I would like to see Matthew Elliott, who ran the Vote Leave campaign, given the job.
Mark Senior for LibDem leader !!
Huzzah .....
Jo Swindon?
Cable would be a bonkers move. Just remind everyone of the coalition.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHetRTOD1Q
They hadn't taken the vital first step of understanding the make up of London and ran an immigration led campaign designed for Hartlepool. Their greatest achievement was pushing the blame onto Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill