She didn't mean it, clearly. Everyone who votes Tory is apparently voting explicitly for a slightly lower standard of living in return for more sovereignty and lower immigration.
The Baby Boomers are voting themselves one last blast of privilege and champagne whilst handing the bill to those following them
Yet they are worst off under the Tories' plan.
Are they? The vast majority of them will not go into care. About 1 in 3 do so.
So, the probability of either one of your two grandfathers or one of your two grandmothers going into residential care is ... err ... very substantial. Odds on.
Almost every family in the land will be touched by this as life expectancy has increased inexorably.
And indeed, talking to my 12 year old daughter confirms that almost all her schoolfriends have a granny with dementia or an aunt with Parkinson’s.
This is not some remote possibility, as you seemingly envision.
If I were a betting man...
Within 20 years neurodegenerative diseases will be entirely preventable. There will be a bolus of sufferers to be managed on a chronic basis but the flow of incoming patients will have been stemmed
Judging by recent major medical developments, I think you are right. In fact I'd be surprised if major developments in both the treatment and cure hadn't been achieved within the next 10 years, 15 years tops, so we are probably at or close to the highest incidence and cost of treating dementia, Parkinsons , etc.
The one aspect which is wholly unfair and in my view entirely unacceptable is the fact that the Scots receive so-called Social Care without paying so much as a brass farthing, whilst the English and Welsh face having to pay as much as tens of thousands for their care ..... where's the equity in that? The massively generous Barnett formula give-aways simply cannot be allowed to continue indefinitely.
I agree but needs to be done in context of a constitutional settlement otherwise it's "evil Tories robbing our bairns of their future"
That didnt go as Leanne Wood had wished - Con said no political points fromManchester we should all work together - Leane Wood: Police cuts make it political met in stony silence from audience
Under-25 voting. I think we can safely ignore the Survation data, but other pollsters have more sensible data and still show a narrowing Tory lead. e.g. Yougov data has 57% of young voters saying they'll vote, which sounds about right. The percentage has been increasing since 2014 because voter registration in this group was low, but the new people coming on to the register have a high likelihood of voting.
O/T - how does Labour's "National Care Service" compare to SNP's policy of free personal care for the elderly (in scope and cost)? And is it not possible to look at the cost in Scotland to ridicule the Labour estimate of £3billion in the rest of the country.
On a related note - has anyone estimated the effect of Labour's policies on the Barnett formula? If Labour are proposing to shift the cost of many services from individuals to the state, will this not feed through into Barnett consequentials? eg. Tuition fees which at the moment Scotland have to pay for themselves because isn't something that the Government fund in England.
Scotland does not seem to provide free residential care.
The limits in Scotland seem to be the same as the limits in the rest of the UK
If you have dementia and assets of more than 26,500, then I think you’re probably paying your care home fees yourself in Scotland.
Happy to be corrected if any resident of Scotland knows differently.
In Scotland you receive free personal care at home for as long as you want or are able to benefit from it. I was under the impression that in England the value of your assets would included to pay for home care.
Home care being far and away the least expensive option. And no one takes any money whilst the sufferer is alive. And the allowance is being increased. Alternative taxes are a subsidy from the poorer to the rich.
Directly from the quoted graphic... (as ever DYOR!). If the 65+ is 12m as you say (and you are correct according to that ONS link), then the Con:Lab differential in the two age groups falls to 3:1 roughly. Still underlines the relative power of the older Conservative vote compared to the younger Labour vote.
The massive problem I see with this whole line of thinking is that it implies Brexit will be an issue in Bolsover. Why should it when Skinner himself was pro-Brexit?
If you are a Labour Leave voter in Bolsover why on earth would you vote for another MP when Skinner already ticks both boxes?
Brexit is not what I read into that, I read identity. It will be a test of how off-putting Corbyn is to that demographic.
Did Skinner not take most of the same policy positions as Corbyn on Falklands, Ireland etc?
Indeed I'm not at all saying it will work, all i'm pointing out there are reasons the Conservatives might fancy their chances.
I guess the point you're making is that Labour, Skinner have both taken Bolsover for granted and if there is an identity issue then will they have the electoral data to resist. Sort of like Scotland 2015. Having been to Bolsover a few times (brilliant castle, rest of it er...), I think it improbable that he'll lose but let's see.
Bolsover is the antithesis of Metropolitan Labour. But apart from sharing a spot nominally on the far left of the party, so is Skinner. He'll hold his seat.
She didn't mean it, clearly. Everyone who votes Tory is apparently voting explicitly for a slightly lower standard of living in return for more sovereignty and lower immigration.
The Baby Boomers are voting themselves one last blast of privilege and champagne whilst handing the bill to those following them
Yet they are worst off under the Tories' plan.
Are they? The vast majority of them will not go into care. About 1 in 3 do so.
So, the probability of either one of your two grandfathers or one of your two grandmothers going into residential care is ... err ... very substantial. Odds on.
Almost every family in the land will be touched by this as life expectancy has increased inexorably.
And indeed, talking to my 12 year old daughter confirms that almost all her schoolfriends have a granny with dementia or an aunt with Parkinson’s.
This is not some remote possibility, as you seemingly envision.
If I were a betting man...
Within 20 years neurodegenerative diseases will be entirely preventable. There will be a bolus of sufferers to be managed on a chronic basis but the flow of incoming patients will have been stemmed
Judging by recent major medical developments, I think you are right. In fact I'd be surprised if major developments in both the treatment and cure hadn't been achieved within the next 10 years, 15 years tops, so we are probably at or close to the highest incidence and cost of treating dementia, Parkinsons , etc.
The one aspect which is wholly unfair and in my view entirely unacceptable is the fact that the Scots receive so-called Social Care without paying so much as a brass farthing, whilst the English and Welsh face having to pay as much as tens of thousands for their care ..... where's the equity in that? The massively generous Barnett formula give-aways simply cannot be allowed to continue indefinitely.
I agree but needs to be done in context of a constitutional settlement otherwise it's "evil Tories robbing our bairns of their future"
It certainly needs multi-party agreement and to achieve that will probably need to be phased over a 15-20 year period, so that the Scots gradually got used to paying for Social Care, Prescriptions, Winter Fuel Allowance, University Fees, etc., etc, etc., just like the rest of us.
Under-25 voting. I think we can safely ignore the Survation data, but other pollsters have more sensible data and still show a narrowing Tory lead. e.g. Yougov data has 57% of young voters saying they'll vote, which sounds about right. The percentage has been increasing since 2014 because voter registration in this group was low, but the new people coming on to the register have a high likelihood of voting.
It was just over 40% at GE 2015.
But nearly 60% at EU Ref 2016.
So it could be 57% this time - but on the other hand it could easily be quite a lot lower.
She didn't mean it, clearly. Everyone who votes Tory is apparently voting explicitly for a slightly lower standard of living in return for more sovereignty and lower immigration.
The Baby Boomers are voting themselves one last blast of privilege and champagne whilst handing the bill to those following them
Yet they are worst off under the Tories' plan.
Are they? The vast majority of them will not go into care. About 1 in 3 do so.
So, the probability of either one of your two grandfathers or one of your two grandmothers going into residential care is ... err ... very substantial. Odds on.
Almost every family in the land will be touched by this as life expectancy has increased inexorably.
And indeed, talking to my 12 year old daughter confirms that almost all her schoolfriends have a granny with dementia or an aunt with Parkinson’s.
This is not some remote possibility, as you seemingly envision.
If I were a betting man...
Within 20 years neurodegenerative diseases will be entirely preventable. There will be a bolus of sufferers to be managed on a chronic basis but the flow of incoming patients will have been stemmed
So those of us just passed 40 should be ok, right?
Had another glossy A3 double sided Labour leaflet, no mention of Corbyn anywhere.
Not sure why fox hunting is mentioned, but I would have appreciated the presence of foxhounds as a fox cub was rooting around the garden by the kitchen door last night. Plenty of material on education, social and health care but no ideas about how to pay for it. Absolutely sweet FA for those not employed by the public sector. [snip]
I thought the long term plan was to have everybody employed by the public sector...
There was a massive shit on my drive this morning. Too big for a cat, even an enormous one. Too close to the house to be a dog - you get the odd dog owner turning a blind eye to that sort of thing on a pavement, but few are audacious enough to march up to the top of someone's drive to relieve their dogs. Presumably not human, unless the milkman got caught particularly short. Foxes?
Even if it was a fox, I don't think the irritation involved in the incident is enough to make me want to board a horse and set a lot of dogs on the foxes of Sale in revenge. There aren't many votes in fox hunting outside of safe, safe Tory seats in the countryside. And quite a lot of votes in not-fox hunting.
Fox poo is about the size of cat poo, but tarrier and stinks to high heaven. It is fairly distinctive.
To be that big it is either human or a large dog, presumably off a lead. Burgulars often drop their trousers through nerves, but usually inside a property.
The massive problem I see with this whole line of thinking is that it implies Brexit will be an issue in Bolsover. Why should it when Skinner himself was pro-Brexit?
If you are a Labour Leave voter in Bolsover why on earth would you vote for another MP when Skinner already ticks both boxes?
Brexit is not what I read into that, I read identity. It will be a test of how off-putting Corbyn is to that demographic.
Did Skinner not take most of the same policy positions as Corbyn on Falklands, Ireland etc?
Indeed I'm not at all saying it will work, all i'm pointing out there are reasons the Conservatives might fancy their chances.
I guess the point you're making is that Labour, Skinner have both taken Bolsover for granted and if there is an identity issue then will they have the electoral data to resist. Sort of like Scotland 2015. Having been to Bolsover a few times (brilliant castle, rest of it er...), I think it improbable that he'll lose but let's see.
Bolsover is the antithesis of Metropolitan Labour. But apart from sharing a spot nominally on the far left of the party, so is Skinner. He'll hold his seat.
Which was my conclusion. But my real question is why bother - what can he do or say which he hasn't said a million times before (faod this analysis can be applied to a number of elderly MPs regardless of party). In short, would really loving the Labour Party mean handing over now to give someone else the chance to establish themselves?
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
Yeah, but even on May avoiding debates, does he not see an irony in saying that "if this was Italy we'd be stringing people up from the lampposts"! Is he suggesting that Italy is an example of a country (in comparison to the UK, presumably) that will resist a drift to Fascism...
You have articulated the poor politics of the Tory manifesto launch.
Loads of people have now been a) exposed to what a tricky situation the current system is b) proposed an alternative, with no prep of the ground, whereby inheritance is lost and, crucially, people instinctively feel they have lost control of their own homes.
It what happens when a policy wonk gets to decide a major event in the middle of a GE without any input from politicians.
I think there is never a good time for a politician to discuss dementia, or the funding of social care.
I am pleased that I won’t have to deal with the social care system in this country for a few decades. I am very sorry for those who will have to.
Because they are in for a very unpleasant time. And that it is the only reason why I post on the subject.
I am not interested in political point scoring on such a matter. It is too important.
I'm not interested in point scoring either. But to get from where we are now to a better place needs intelligent managing of how the public see the issue and the costs. We haven't had that - from any of the parties. And I'm bloody angry about that.
We have not had it from the opposition parties and the media are not interested in shedding light on it... they just want blood on the floor the big themselves up.
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
"Asked out May’s refusal to take part in a live TV debate, Ashdown said he was astonished. “I thought it was shocking and the extraordinary thing is, she’s got away with it. If this was Italy, we’d be stringing people from the lamp-posts.
“We are the only advanced democracy in the world in which the leader of our nation can get away with not turning up to have a proper debate with the opposition. I think it is extraordinary and we don’t seem to be kicking up a fuss about it.”"
No racial stereotyping there, then, from Paddy. Those wops, ey?
Kuenssberg. And you do realise that most of what look to you like Jewish names are actually just German names, do you?
I think the point was more about the direct attack on journalists than them both potentially being Jewish.
Oddly, I sort of understand the unhappiness that enthusiasts have with journalists, although it's frequently taken too far. There's an impression that they think themselves the story, or at least the centre of it, rather than just being intermediators between the politician and the public. Nobody's perfect in this story, but the rise of the celebrity journalist is unhelpful in that respect.
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
"Asked out May’s refusal to take part in a live TV debate, Ashdown said he was astonished. “I thought it was shocking and the extraordinary thing is, she’s got away with it. If this was Italy, we’d be stringing people from the lamp-posts.
“We are the only advanced democracy in the world in which the leader of our nation can get away with not turning up to have a proper debate with the opposition. I think it is extraordinary and we don’t seem to be kicking up a fuss about it.”"
No racial stereotyping there, then, from Paddy. Those wops, ey?
As someone who thinks May should have debated, his points are pretty silly. I don't think PMQs is a substitute for not having a debate during election time, but there are plenty of advanced democracies where the most senior political figure doesn't regularly debate or answer questions directly from their opponents.
She didn't mean it, clearly. Everyone who votes Tory is apparently voting explicitly for a slightly lower standard of living in return for more sovereignty and lower immigration.
The Baby Boomers are voting themselves one last blast of privilege and champagne whilst handing the bill to those following them
Yet they are worst off under the Tories' plan.
Are they? The vast majority of them will not go into care. About 1 in 3 do so.
So, the probability of either one of your two grandfathers or one of your two grandmothers going into residential care is ... err ... very substantial. Odds on.
Almost every family in the land will be touched by this as life expectancy has increased inexorably.
And indeed, talking to my 12 year old daughter confirms that almost all her schoolfriends have a granny with dementia or an aunt with Parkinson’s.
This is not some remote possibility, as you seemingly envision.
If I were a betting man...
Within 20 years neurodegenerative diseases will be entirely preventable. There will be a bolus of sufferers to be managed on a chronic basis but the flow of incoming patients will have been stemmed
So those of us just passed 40 should be ok, right?
More than OK, if Charles can get us in at the ground floor with the relevant pharma start-ups.
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
Yeah, but even on May avoiding debates, does he not see an irony in saying that "if this was Italy we'd be stringing people up from the lampposts"! Is he suggesting that Italy is an example of a country (in comparison to the UK, presumably) that will resist a drift to Fascism...
It's an odd line, I'm not sure if he is saying they would do that because they would follow fascism or be against it vehemently. If it's the latter than his research has been....rather cursory. You would think that someone writing a book would be clearer in their thoughts.
As a point of interest re: debates. I don't know if it was offered, but what is May's theoretical position on a one on one debate with Corbyn, excluding other party leaders?
There's an impression that they think themselves the story, or at least the centre of it, rather than just being intermediators between the politician and the public. Nobody's perfect in this story, but the rise of the celebrity journalist is unhelpful in that respect.
I agree with your central point, but isn't it precisely seeing themselves as intermediators that has led to some of the problems? Particularly since Marr/Robinson, TV political journalists have adopted a style of dumbing down that consists of a personality focused interpretation of events rather than simply offering straight reportage and letting the audience think for themselves.
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
"Asked out May’s refusal to take part in a live TV debate, Ashdown said he was astonished. “I thought it was shocking and the extraordinary thing is, she’s got away with it. If this was Italy, we’d be stringing people from the lamp-posts.
Who knew that was their real beef with Mussolini ?
There's an impression that they think themselves the story, or at least the centre of it, rather than just being intermediators between the politician and the public. Nobody's perfect in this story, but the rise of the celebrity journalist is unhelpful in that respect.
I agree with your central point, but isn't it precisely seeing themselves as intermediators that has led to some of the problems? Particularly since Marr/Robinson, TV political journalists have adopted a style of dumbing down that consists of a personality focused interpretation of events rather than simply offering straight reportage and letting the audience think for themselves.
Tediously, I don't disagree. Albeit that the mixing of opinion and reportage is hardly confined to political reporters and is clearly part of the job spec of the modern news journalist. Which would be fine if they were as bright as they clearly believe they are.
Edit: and I suspect that you overestimate the desire of the audience to think for themselves by assuming your approach is that of the wider public.
Just told my mum about Labour's 'garden tax', she said that it 'was communism' and she's definitely voting Conservative.
Even after the Dementia Tax?!
More to the point, if that kind of reaction is even slightly replicated elsewhere, the Tories would be advised to go hard on it, even if the Labour policy is technically only to review council tax with that as an option.
Just told my mum about Labour's 'garden tax', she said that it 'was communism' and she's definitely voting Conservative.
I'm guessing she's not a 'natural' Tory ?
She voted Conservative once before - 1992, as she liked John Major. The rest of the time LD or Labour. I'd say she was a floater - she's open to voting for all parties, in theory with the exception of UKIP.
She didn't mean it, clearly. Everyone who votes Tory is apparently voting explicitly for a slightly lower standard of living in return for more sovereignty and lower immigration.
The Baby Boomers are voting themselves one last blast of privilege and champagne whilst handing the bill to those following them
Yet they are worst off under the Tories' plan.
Are they? The vast majority of them will not go into care. About 1 in 3 do so.
So, the probability of either one of your two grandfathers or one of your two grandmothers going into residential care is ... err ... very substantial. Odds on.
Almost every family in the land will be touched by this as life expectancy has increased inexorably.
And indeed, talking to my 12 year old daughter confirms that almost all her schoolfriends have a granny with dementia or an aunt with Parkinson’s.
This is not some remote possibility, as you seemingly envision.
If I were a betting man...
Within 20 years neurodegenerative diseases will be entirely preventable. There will be a bolus of sufferers to be managed on a chronic basis but the flow of incoming patients will have been stemmed
So those of us just passed 40 should be ok, right?
More than OK, if Charles can get us in at the ground floor with the relevant pharma start-ups.
... The one aspect which is wholly unfair and in my view entirely unacceptable is the fact that the Scots receive so-called Social Care without paying so much as a brass farthing, whilst the English and Welsh face having to pay as much as tens of thousands for their care ..... where's the equity in that? The massively generous Barnett formula give-aways simply cannot be allowed to continue indefinitely.
I agree but needs to be done in context of a constitutional settlement otherwise it's "evil Tories robbing our bairns of their future"
It certainly needs multi-party agreement and to achieve that will probably need to be phased over a 15-20 year period, so that the Scots gradually got used to paying for Social Care, Prescriptions, Winter Fuel Allowance, University Fees, etc., etc, etc., just like the rest of us.
That's what the Barnett Formula, and inflation, would already do, were it not for the fact that Scotland's population continues to shrink as a proportion of the UK.
It's the relative shrinkage of Scotland's population that has lead to the fiscal imbalance.
Just told my mum about Labour's 'garden tax', she said that it 'was communism' and she's definitely voting Conservative.
Even after the Dementia Tax?!
More to the point, if that kind of reaction is even slightly replicated elsewhere, the Tories would be advised to go hard on it, even if the Labour policy is technically only to review council tax with that as an option.
I think Alastair's spot on with the lack of Corbyn toxicity among the same time (Woman's Hour aside), I think he's played a blinder turning his image from a grouchy lefty nerd into a competent human being in time for this campaign. Smiling on the One Show and playing along with the family photo stuff will attract as many as honouring IRA killers will repulse. Maybe unfair; maybe a poor reflection on society. But I think that combination is behind the narrowing in the polls.
(I'd also agree we shouldn't get carried away and that we're still talking about reducing the Tory landslide to just a solid win!)
I think Alastair's spot on with the lack of Corbyn toxicity among younger voters. And I think it stretches far beyond the 18-24s.
I'm nearly as old as Alastair, and although I *recall* the Falklands and the latter half of the IRA campaign, they (happily) weren't something which affected me or my family directly apart from a few inconvenient road closures for bomb threats when I worked in London in the 90s. I probably have a better knowledge of current affairs and modern history than most, and even for me, an image of hippy Corbyn in his mum's homemade jumper on a Republican march doesn't make me squirm with revulsion. I understand why it has more resonance for people ten years older. I respect that, but it doesn't bring out the same visceral, emotional "how could anyone support him?" reaction, and I suspect that will limit how much mud sticks.
I should imagine it was the same for young people in the sixties and seventies... wondering why a generation above them would sooner spit on a Japanese or German person than collaborate and compete in the modern world.
At the same time (Woman's Hour aside), I think he's played a blinder turning his image from a grouchy lefty nerd into a competent human being in time for this campaign. Smiling on the One Show and playing along with the family photo stuff will attract as many as honouring IRA killers will repulse. Maybe unfair; maybe a poor reflection on society. But I think that combination is behind the narrowing in the polls.
(I'd also agree we shouldn't get carried away and that we're still talking about reducing the Tory landslide to just a solid win!)
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
He has some good points about May avoiding debate, but wrapping it up in turgid hyperbole about the rise of Hitler is daft. It draws the eye away from his actual point.
"Asked out May’s refusal to take part in a live TV debate, Ashdown said he was astonished. “I thought it was shocking and the extraordinary thing is, she’s got away with it. If this was Italy, we’d be stringing people from the lamp-posts.
Who knew that was their real beef with Mussolini ?
He made the trains run on time but gassed Abyssinia and ignored the legacy of Prester John. Trade offs I guess.
O/T - how does Labour's "National Care Service" compare to SNP's policy of free personal care for the elderly (in scope and cost)? And is it not possible to look at the cost in Scotland to ridicule the Labour estimate of £3billion in the rest of the country.
On a related note - has anyone estimated the effect of Labour's policies on the Barnett formula? If Labour are proposing to shift the cost of many services from individuals to the state, will this not feed through into Barnett consequentials? eg. Tuition fees which at the moment Scotland have to pay for themselves because isn't something that the Government fund in England.
It seems to me you must surely have a valid point. Nat/Lab coalition clearly on the cards.
I'm not in any way the target of the message, and I know Labour remains more popular among BAME voters than other options, but I feel like the phrasing of only them being 'trusted' to unlock potential could be better.
Is there a particular dress code that the Tories prescribe?
Personally I think all MPs at least should adhere to a specific dress code, with coloured sashes for party affiliation, so we always know who they are. I was thinking white Togas.
Just told my mum about Labour's 'garden tax', she said that it 'was communism' and she's definitely voting Conservative.
Even after the Dementia Tax?!
More to the point, if that kind of reaction is even slightly replicated elsewhere, the Tories would be advised to go hard on it, even if the Labour policy is technically only to review council tax with that as an option.
Yes, even after the Dementia Tax.
Perhaps caricaturing a Conservative policy as "the bedroom tax" was not as clever and funny as it first appeared.
I'm not in any way the target of the message, and I know Labour remains more popular among BAME voters than other options, but I feel like the phrasing of only them being 'trusted' to unlock potential could be better.
Yeah, I agree.
@Theuniondivvie LOL they were dressed almost identically! Really weird that.
I'm not in any way the target of the message, and I know Labour remains more popular among BAME voters than other options, but I feel like the phrasing of only them being 'trusted' to unlock potential could be better.
Yeah, I agree.
@Theuniondivvie LOL they were dressed almost identically! Really weird that.
Is there a particular dress code that the Tories prescribe?
Personally I think all MPs at least should adhere to a specific dress code, with coloured sashes for party affiliation, so we always know who they are. I was thinking white Togas.
String vests underneath for Labour, and commando for Nats.
Just as May and Thatcher were the wrong kind of women to be the first two female PM's, if the Tories do get the first BAME PM I'm sure they will also be the wrong kind of BAME.
Just as May and Thatcher were the wrong kind of women to be the first two female PM's, if the Tories do get the first BAME PM I'm sure they will also be the wrong kind of BAME.
Somebody once said I was the wrong kind of BAME because I had been privately educated and grew up in a nice part of the country, rather than on a council estate.
Just as May and Thatcher were the wrong kind of women to be the first two female PM's, if the Tories do get the first BAME PM I'm sure they will also be the wrong kind of BAME.
Somebody once said I was the wrong kind of BAME because I had been privately educated and grew up in a nice part of the country, rather than on a council estate.
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Good evening, everyone.
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/869333901445136386
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/30/ashdown-horrified-parallels-between-uk-1930s-germany
Is this the first example of somebody losing an argument due to Godwin's law before the opposition have had a chance to make their opening statements?
But nearly 60% at EU Ref 2016.
So it could be 57% this time - but on the other hand it could easily be quite a lot lower.
To be that big it is either human or a large dog, presumably off a lead. Burgulars often drop their trousers through nerves, but usually inside a property.
“We are the only advanced democracy in the world in which the leader of our nation can get away with not turning up to have a proper debate with the opposition. I think it is extraordinary and we don’t seem to be kicking up a fuss about it.”"
No racial stereotyping there, then, from Paddy. Those wops, ey?
https://twitter.com/jamescleverly/status/869624922817130496
https://twitter.com/jamescleverly/status/869636571397578752
https://twitter.com/jamescleverly/status/869637966825758721
https://twitter.com/jamescleverly/status/869644304700112896
You would think that someone writing a book would be clearer in their thoughts.
Or I suppose if he was really bad he might unlock a lot more BAME conservatives in the end.
Edit: and I suspect that you overestimate the desire of the audience to think for themselves by assuming your approach is that of the wider public.
More to the point, if that kind of reaction is even slightly replicated elsewhere, the Tories would be advised to go hard on it, even if the Labour policy is technically only to review council tax with that as an option.
https://academic.oup.com/brain/article/doi/10.1093/brain/awx074/3737867/Repurposed-drugs-targeting-eIF2-P-mediated
It's the relative shrinkage of Scotland's population that has lead to the fiscal imbalance.
Just saying
This is a total lie. God how desperate are these Tories.
I will send Toby round can I have your mothers Address
@Theuniondivvie LOL they were dressed almost identically! Really weird that.
https://twitter.com/JamesCleverly/status/869571260279398402
http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-protest-song-liar-liar-hits-no-1-on-itunes-10898670
https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/869655227133288449
Hopefully post-election McDonnell will go, and they'll get someone trustworthy as Shadow Chancellor.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2977991/What-tall-story-Labour-forced-deny-claims-Miliband-stood-box-pictured-6ft-6in-MP.html
2015 - it was a more innocent time.
:-)
Thanks.
Don't think I'll ever be into it, though.
When I think of gardening, I think of two things:
(a. Gardners World
(b. Alan Titchmarsh.
A bit stilted for a headline, but I've seen worse.
https://order-order.com/2017/05/27/corbyn-ira-attack-ad-hits-1-million-views/