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CPS announces on Wednesday whether to prosecute Tories over election spending breaches https://t.co/JgwAtnTdZS

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TheScreamingEagles

They did this with Chris Huhne.

Announced the day before whether or not they'd be bringing charges the next morning.

RobD

At least now we'll know...

TheScreamingEagles

In other news

*I make a noise that suspiciously sounds like 'The Saturday Night Massacre'*

isam

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

TheScreamingEagles

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

Pulpstar

Is the case against Craig Mckinley already fatally prejudiced ?

kle4

And so the long wait will finally be over. How many would be disappointing for those hoping for the biggest scandal in British politics, and how many a worry for those hoping for a damp squib?

Ishmael_Z

TheScreamingEagles said:

First.

They did this with Chris Huhne.

Announced the day before whether or not they'd be bringing charges the next morning.

But that was when the dpp was a complete prick with political ambitions.

Very hoity toity, and absolutely spot on, reply to ogh tweet from lady Nugee.

TudorRose

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

Y0kel

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

FrancisUrquhart

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Al Murray tried that....apparently there is a weight limit.

williamglenn

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Pong

FPT;

Richard_Nabavi said:

Pong said:

Thing is, the centre isn't low tax.

It's not triple lock - or at least not for everyone....

I suppose that you do realise that the triple lock is currently a Corbyn/McDonnell commitment for the next parilament, but not a Tory one?

Any move to the centre will almost certainly involve clobbering wealthy pensioners.

From which angle isn't clear, but clobbered they will get.

A red clobbering won't come with anything nice. A blue clobbering probably gets cushioned by some cost-free social policy like giving guaranteed access for grandparents to see their grandkids.

Or something.

One thing is for sure though, if May moves to the radical centre and delivers jam for JAMs, wealthy pensioners get clobbered.

I can't see any other way.

Pulpstar

From £500 bet on Le Pen to claiming his son did it to claiming the whole thing was a hoax and he is actually a London remainer playing a prank it appears @wollygogg has finally given up and deleted his twitter account completely.

RobD

Pulpstar said:

From £500 bet on Le Pen to claiming his son did it to claiming the whole thing was a hoax and he is actually a London remainer playing a prank it appears @wollygogg has finally given up and deleted his twitter account completely.

What a knob.

williamglenn

It looks like there'll be a special edition of the Sean Spicer show tonight.

Sandpit

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

FrancisUrquhart

williamglenn said:

It looks like there'll be a special edition of the Sean Spicer show tonight.

A man so incapable that Diane Abbott might even do a better job.

TheScreamingEagles

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

I suspect any constituency that has been under investigation has a replacement and nominations already lined up.

RobD

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Unless there are thirty prosecutions...

NickPalmer

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

Possibly that's why the CPS are announcing it tomorrow, to give time for a quick swap if needed - would be seen as unfair to announce after nominations close. But I'm just speculating.

Richard_Nabavi

Pong said:

FPT;

Richard_Nabavi said:

Pong said:

Thing is, the centre isn't low tax.

It's not triple lock - or at least not for everyone....

I suppose that you do realise that the triple lock is currently a Corbyn/McDonnell commitment for the next parilament, but not a Tory one?

Any move to the centre will almost certainly involve clobbering wealthy pensioners.

From which angle isn't clear, but clobbered they will get.

Wealthy pensioners are generally happy to be clobbered, within reason. For example, it's baffling to me why the bizarre loophole of National Insurance not being paid by pensioners who keep working wasn't closed years ago. Wealthy pensioners would also be entirely cool about addressing some of Gordon Brown's idiocies, such as free untaxed bus passes and TV licences.

However, you mentioned specifically the triple lock. That's of negligible interest to wealthy pensioners, although it has been a useful policy for addressing the scandal of the poverty of the poorest pensioners. But it's served its purpose now, and it's mathematically impossible to keep it going indefinitely. I very much expect that it will be dropped in the Tory manifesto, but Labour say they want to keep it. I guess Labour needs to buy all the votes it can.

Ishmael_Z

Pong said:

FPT;

Richard_Nabavi said:

Pong said:

Thing is, the centre isn't low tax.

It's not triple lock - or at least not for everyone....

I suppose that you do realise that the triple lock is currently a Corbyn/McDonnell commitment for the next parilament, but not a Tory one?

Any move to the centre will almost certainly involve clobbering wealthy pensioners.

From which angle isn't clear, but clobbered they will get.

The people to whom the triple lock is a serious issue are by definition not wealthy and indeed not even comfortably off. Any pensioner with any money at all would sacrifice the triple lock in an instant in exchange for a normalisation of interest rates.

TudorRose

NickPalmer said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

Possibly that's why the CPS are announcing it tomorrow, to give time for a quick swap if needed - would be seen as unfair to announce after nominations close. But I'm just speculating.

That was my thinking; the timing seems sensible because to do it after nominations closed would be rather prejudicial in those seats (notwithstanding innocent until proved guilty). But it also precludes Martin Bell style candidates popping up as well.

TheScreamingEagles

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Nah the day to buy was when I tipped it at 378 mid price and they are now 399 mid price.

kle4

Charles said:

NikNak said:

is his real name. His first half of his double barrelled name is his husband's

Then it's part of his "real name"

Unless you are suggesting his husband should be airbrushed out for some reason?

More charitably you could take real in this instance to have meant birth or original name.

JonnyJimmy

Btw, is Drunker Juncker a PB Leaver/Tory? Doesn't he now admit his leak was a mistake, and says that May is a friend but a tough negotiator? Isn't a week a long time in politics?

I'm sure it'll all change a day after the election!

TheScreamingEagles

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/862049452093304832

Why this story has legs

Lord Mandelson, the architect of new Labour, suggested moderate MPs could learn a lesson from the victory of Emmanuel Macron in the French presidential elections.

He said that the “simple truth of Macron’s victory is that he won by leaving his party, not despite doing so. We have to understand just how fed up people are with traditional party structures”.

RobD

JonnyJimmy said:

Btw, is Drunker Juncker a PB Leaver/Tory? Doesn't he now admit his leak was a mistake, and says that May is a friend but a tough negotiator? Isn't a week a long time in politics?

I'm sure it'll all change a day after the election!

He's probably forgotten who May is.

kle4

NickPalmer said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

Possibly that's why the CPS are announcing it tomorrow, to give time for a quick swap if needed - would be seen as unfair to announce after nominations close. But I'm just speculating.

It makes sense. They've been taking as much time as possible, practically, and then plan to announce all just happens to be tine for a swap out?

Sandpit

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Nah the day to buy was when I tipped it at 378 mid price and they are now 399 mid price.

Yeah I know, but took too long to get set up and the buy price jumped from 378 to 391 in two days!

TudorRose

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Nah the day to buy was when I tipped it at 378 mid price and they are now 399 mid price.

I sold at 387 on the assumption that the CPS news would drop at some point during the campaign; I'm hoping I'll be able to close my position profitably sometime over the next couple of days.

TheScreamingEagles

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Nah the day to buy was when I tipped it at 378 mid price and they are now 399 mid price.

Yeah I know, but took too long to get set up and the buy price jumped from 378 to 391 in two days!

Well you know me, I move betting markets with my thread headers

Goodnight.

JonnyJimmy

NickPalmer said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

Possibly that's why the CPS are announcing it tomorrow, to give time for a quick swap if needed - would be seen as unfair to announce after nominations close. But I'm just speculating.

If needed? Surely that must mean needed then?

williamglenn

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

100 Labour MPs? Sounds optimistic...

kle4

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/862049452093304832

Why this story has legs

Lord Mandelson, the architect of new Labour, suggested moderate MPs could learn a lesson from the victory of Emmanuel Macron in the French presidential elections.

He said that the “simple truth of Macron’s victory is that he won by leaving his party, not despite doing so. We have to understand just how fed up people are with traditional party structures”.

Are they? The biggest traditional party here seem to be doing fine. And the insurgent party is dying.

kle4

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

100 Labour MPs? Sounds optimistic...

Particularly when they apparently aren't bold enough to take on Corbyn for the labour name.

TheScreamingEagles

TudorRose said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Note to self.

If there are charges, I must not panic over my buy of Tory seats on the spreads.

Keep calm and carry on.

I'm hoping tomorrow is the day to buy Con seats on the spreads, as they over-react to the news.

Nah the day to buy was when I tipped it at 378 mid price and they are now 399 mid price.

I sold at 387 on the assumption that the CPS news would drop at some point during the campaign; I'm hoping I'll be able to close my position profitably sometime over the next couple of days.

The logic is there. I hope it comes off for you.

Charles

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

williamglenn

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

Not the same situation. This time the clock is ticking, and both parties stand to lose if there is no deal. If May genuinely wants a trade deal pre-Brexit that's the way to go. (And as nothing is agreed until everything is agreed there's no downside.)

Ishmael_Z

So 30 MPs may have a sleepless night ahead of them but in view of Comey's downfall so may a few bods at the cps.

Comey seems to have been caught fair and square telling porkies to Congress btw, not sure there is any need to look for an ulterior motive.

Arthur_Penny

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

kle4

I get the impression the Liverpool mayor was disappointed not to get that safe parliamentary seat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-39848390

RepublicanTory

TheScreamingEagles said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

I suspect any constituency that has been under investigation has a replacement and nominations already lined up.

Thanet South apparently do not

Although Party HQ probably do

But as i suspect you know the real crunch will come in another case after the GE

PBModerator

Please, let's not wish death on other members of PB.

FrancisUrquhart

How I imagine the sitting South Thanet MP....

Charles

williamglenn said:

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

Not the same situation. This time the clock is ticking, and both parties stand to lose if there is no deal. If May genuinely wants a trade deal pre-Brexit that's the way to go. (And as nothing is agreed until everything is agreed there's no downside.)

You don't really negotiate much do you?

JonnyJimmy

Peter Mandelson? Pal endorsement, needs patrolmen, lamented person.. He's a a mine of anagrams!

Y0kel

Arthur_Penny said:

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

No one has succeeded in getting me yet and they haven't tried twice Arthur.

Sandpit

kle4 said:

I get the impression the Liverpool mayor was disappointed not to get that safe parliamentary seat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-39848390

He certainly wasn't happy to lose to Len's young bag-carrier imposed from HQ.

williamglenn

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

Not the same situation. This time the clock is ticking, and both parties stand to lose if there is no deal. If May genuinely wants a trade deal pre-Brexit that's the way to go. (And as nothing is agreed until everything is agreed there's no downside.)

You don't really negotiate much do you?

I do actually, but as neither of us has ever been near an EU exit deal it's a moot point.

PS: Implicit in my comment is that May doesn't genuinely want a trade deal pre-Brexit, nor should she try to get one.

kle4

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sitting South Thanet MP....

If what we hear is even half true he should be very calm, having expected bad news for a long time.

kle4

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

Not the same situation. This time the clock is ticking, and both parties stand to lose if there is no deal. If May genuinely wants a trade deal pre-Brexit that's the way to go. (And as nothing is agreed until everything is agreed there's no downside.)

You don't really negotiate much do you?

Now now, he admitted both sides lose out if there's no deal, that's a big step.

Philip_Thompson

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

100 Labour MPs? Sounds optimistic...

Are you talking about the election results ....

RepublicanTory

kle4 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sitting South Thanet MP....

If what we hear is even half true he should be very calm, having expected bad news for a long time.

He is in trouble-maybe tomorrow-maybe not
But he's in trouble
If he doesn't get fingered tomorrow then the first thing i will do is find out the odds of when the first By election is

Pulpstar

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

nunu

Y0kel said:

Arthur_Penny said:

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

No one has succeeded in getting me yet and they haven't tried twice Arthur.

Any more news to come RE: Trumpton?

RobD

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

I suspect any constituency that has been under investigation has a replacement and nominations already lined up.

Thanet South apparently do not

Although Party HQ probably do

But as i suspect you know the real crunch will come in another case after the GE

You talking about the Thanet South one? I think that's also being announced tomorrow.

nunu

PBModerator said:

Please, let's not wish death on other members of PB.

What if we feel like killing ourselves?

https://twitter.com/elliciaroxanne/status/861967204681756672

TheScreamingEagles

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

nunu

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Don't you mean The Times?

FrancisUrquhart

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

TheScreamingEagles

nunu said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Don't you mean The Times?

Give it time.

nunu

nunu said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Don't you mean The Times?

He's a working class Nothern tory. Just like TSE.

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

nunu said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Don't you mean The Times?

Give it time.

Your coat, sir.

JonnyJimmy

I think the law should be changed to allow the anti-hunt side to field a pack of dogs to protect the fox against the hounds. That would be fair.

TheScreamingEagles

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

RepublicanTory

RobD said:

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

TudorRose said:

How do we think the timing will affect nominations in any seats where they may be charges, given that Thursday is the closing date for nominations?

I suspect any constituency that has been under investigation has a replacement and nominations already lined up.

Thanet South apparently do not

Although Party HQ probably do

But as i suspect you know the real crunch will come in another case after the GE

You talking about the Thanet South one? I think that's also being announced tomorrow.

The LA are standing by him and as of Saturday had no-one lined up "in case"
-well that was the official line but i know a number of the Executive and they were pretty clear.

nunu

JonnyJimmy said:

I think the law should be changed to allow the anti-hunt side to field a pack of dogs to protect the fox against the hounds. That would be fair.

madness.

FrancisUrquhart

Oi tubby I said no....for the many, not the few....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/09/angry-bear-tries-break-home-woman-baking-brownies/

TheScreamingEagles

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

RepublicanTory

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

OI !!
We have some very nice parts thank you very much !!

It's the home of the Open Golf in a couple of years time

RepublicanTory

TheScreamingEagles said:

nunu said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Don't you mean The Times?

Give it time.

Well Andy Coulson lives here so they can swap stories of the old times on the train.

FrancisUrquhart

TheScreamingEagles said:

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

He really is a one man walking disaster.

RepublicanTory

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

"he's used to going to down market places."

You are now officially off my Christmas card list !

FrancisUrquhart

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

"he's used to going to down market places."

You are now officially off my Christmas card list !

Or as the Supreme Leader will enforce when he wins in 4 weeks....Non-religious Winter Festival Cards.

RepublicanTory

TheScreamingEagles said:

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

Somewhat ironic that the two main stories tonight have a common thread.

TheScreamingEagles

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

"he's used to going to down market places."

You are now officially off my Christmas card list !

I'm sure Thanet is lovely, I was merely going off Francis Urquhart's word that it was a bit down market.

Plus I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to diss Oxford University.

JonnyJimmy

nunu said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I think the law should be changed to allow the anti-hunt side to field a pack of dogs to protect the fox against the hounds. That would be fair.

madness.

Silliness!

RepublicanTory

TheScreamingEagles said:

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

"he's used to going to down market places."

You are now officially off my Christmas card list !

I'm sure Thanet is lovely, I was merely going off Francis Urquhart's word that it was a bit down market.

Plus I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to diss Oxford University.

TBH Thanet is a dump-and most Thanitians would agree on that.

But Sandwhich and the villages are very nice.

MTimT

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

Charles said:

williamglenn said:

FPT

walterw said:

A joke right?

Mandelson has already said he would just hand the €60 billion over to the EU without any negotiation.

Yes, a joke. I was alluding to Gordon Brown's GOATs.

On the negotiations, I don't think that would necessarily be a bad strategy. If we want to get them on the back foot, we should make concessions on the things they're expecting us to fight over and quickly move on to the things they don't want to talk about.

Blair tried that on the rebate

How's the reformed CAP looking?

Not the same situation. This time the clock is ticking, and both parties stand to lose if there is no deal. If May genuinely wants a trade deal pre-Brexit that's the way to go. (And as nothing is agreed until everything is agreed there's no downside.)

You don't really negotiate much do you?

I was biting my tongue, but your response made me

NickPalmer

122 comments so far on my Labour List piece:

http://labourlist.org/2017/05/nick-palmer-why-corbyns-critics-need-the-mcdonnell-amendment/

(written a couple of months ago but only appeared now for some editorial reason))

Pulpstar

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

He really is a one man walking disaster.

I still hope he wins !

Y0kel

nunu said:

Y0kel said:

Arthur_Penny said:

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

No one has succeeded in getting me yet and they haven't tried twice Arthur.

Any more news to come RE: Trumpton?

Plenty. Some investigations have already gone to decisions on indictments which is why Comey's sacking, bearing in mind he was under internal disciplinary investigation himself regarding his handling of the Clinton email issue, may ultimately have no showstopping impact. The symbolism and implicit threat to others is clear.

The question is whether those in the Republican establishment unsympathetic to Trump and who know whats going on, decide to apply political pressure.

Sunil_Prasannan

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RepublicanTory said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Which lucky bag carrier will get the Thanet South nod then ?

I wonder if George Osborne fancies being the MP for Thanet South, would be easier editing The Standard from Thanet than Tatton.

Is it not a bit down market for George?

Well at Oxford he was told he was an oik because he attended St Paul's and not Eton.

So after St Paul's and Oxford University, he's used to going to down market places.

"he's used to going to down market places."

You are now officially off my Christmas card list !

I'm sure Thanet is lovely, I was merely going off Francis Urquhart's word that it was a bit down market.

Plus I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to diss Oxford University.

TBH Thanet is a dump-and most Thanitians would agree on that.

But Sandwhich and the villages are very nice.

I did the Sandwich to Minster railway curve a month or so ago

Y0kel

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/862049452093304832

Why this story has legs

Lord Mandelson, the architect of new Labour, suggested moderate MPs could learn a lesson from the victory of Emmanuel Macron in the French presidential elections.

He said that the “simple truth of Macron’s victory is that he won by leaving his party, not despite doing so. We have to understand just how fed up people are with traditional party structures”.

How many times have we heard the rumour of a breakaway since Corbyn got elected?
Why should this talk result in anything different?

TheScreamingEagles

Pulpstar said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

He really is a one man walking disaster.

I still hope he wins !

How much did you bet on him to win Rochdale?

nunu

Y0kel said:

nunu said:

Y0kel said:

Arthur_Penny said:

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

No one has succeeded in getting me yet and they haven't tried twice Arthur.

Any more news to come RE: Trumpton?

Plenty. Some investigations have already gone to decisions on indictments which is why Comey's sacking, bearing in mind he was under internal disciplinary investigation himself regarding his handling of the Clinton email issue, may ultimately have no showstopping impact. The symbolism and implicit threat to others is clear.

The question is whether those in the Republican establishment unsympathetic to Trump and who know whats going on, decide to apply political pressure.

woah what are the timescales on the indictments? Months?

Y0kel

nunu said:

Y0kel said:

nunu said:

Y0kel said:

Arthur_Penny said:

Y0kel said:

isam said:

Farage to parachute into Thanet?

Why don't we just push the stupid bastard out of a plane.

Attached to you with handcuffs - so at least the world will be a better place for some people.

No one has succeeded in getting me yet and they haven't tried twice Arthur.

Any more news to come RE: Trumpton?

Plenty. Some investigations have already gone to decisions on indictments which is why Comey's sacking, bearing in mind he was under internal disciplinary investigation himself regarding his handling of the Clinton email issue, may ultimately have no showstopping impact. The symbolism and implicit threat to others is clear.

The question is whether those in the Republican establishment unsympathetic to Trump and who know whats going on, decide to apply political pressure.

woah what are the timescales on the indictments? Months?

No idea, there are a serious number of people being looked into. Time has to be taken.

Pulpstar

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Hmmm

MP Simon Danczuk accused of raping young woman in Westminster – but insists he’ll still stand in the General Election despite police probe

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3522181/mp-simon-danczuk-accused-of-raping-young-woman-in-westminster-but-insists-hell-still-stand-in-the-general-election-despite-police-probe/

He really is a one man walking disaster.

I still hope he wins !

How much did you bet on him to win Rochdale?

Nothing

Paristonda

Y0kel said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Normally this would be the big news of tomorrow

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/862049452093304832

Why this story has legs

Lord Mandelson, the architect of new Labour, suggested moderate MPs could learn a lesson from the victory of Emmanuel Macron in the French presidential elections.

He said that the “simple truth of Macron’s victory is that he won by leaving his party, not despite doing so. We have to understand just how fed up people are with traditional party structures”.

How many times have we heard the rumour of a breakaway since Corbyn got elected?
Why should this talk result in anything different?

This would be post election defeat, you've got to think at some point the turkeys will stop voting for christmas. But yes you are probably right that it will come to nothing. 1 or 2 will resign in protest after losing a 3rd campaign against Corbyn. The rest will just passively go along with it and focus on their constituency work instead.

justin124

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

RobD

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

justin124

RobD said:

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

But she has done!

FrancisUrquhart

Irish police halt prosecution of Stephen Fry for blasphemy

Police could not find enough people outraged at actor’s anti-God remarks on TV after only one viewer complained

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/may/09/irish-police-halt-prosecution-of-stephen-fry-for-blasphemy

What a total waste of time on the back of a single f##king complaint.

RobD

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

But she has done!

The last deadline is June 7th, so that's just wrong.

justin124

RobD said:

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

But she has done!

The last deadline is June 7th, so that's just wrong.

I am not sure what you are saying. She has called the election before the deadline!!

RobD

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

But she has done!

The last deadline is June 7th, so that's just wrong.

I am not sure what you are saying. She has called the election before the deadline!!

"Called it for" as in she called it for June 8th.

Tim_B

Apparently Comey was addressing a group of FBI agents in LA when news began to flash on the TV screens behind him announcing his firing.

Fox News now carrying live coverage of Comey's motorcade in LA. Weird.

justin124

RobD said:

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

RobD said:

justin124 said:

Whilst we have no idea as to what the CPS is about to say , if prosecutions of one or more MPs occur it will enable Labour to run with the message 'Now we know the real reason for the calling of this election - despite TMs repeated deials of such an intention'. There would be some mileage in that - and it would undermine May's image of honesty and being straight forward.

If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?

But she has done!

The last deadline is June 7th, so that's just wrong.

I am not sure what you are saying. She has called the election before the deadline!!

"Called it for" as in she called it for June 8th.

I am afraid you are not making yourself clear here . You replied to my initial comment with 'If that was the reason, surely she would have callled it for before the deadline?'.I have pointed out that that is precisely what she has done!