Well, I've had worse days. Haven't seen Spurs dominate Arsenal like that for years. A huge gap in class. Cost me a bit, mind. But who gives a toss about that? If Arsenal finish 4th I still come out ahead.
Spurs and Arsenal are some kind of code for Tory and Labour, right?
Tories are Chelsea
In election year the colour of the govt is always the colour of the winning football team
we wear a fair bit of blue ourselves thank you....
Well, I've had worse days. Haven't seen Spurs dominate Arsenal like that for years. A huge gap in class. Cost me a bit, mind. But who gives a toss about that? If Arsenal finish 4th I still come out ahead.
It's not over yet.... who thought Palace would win at Chelsea... we could be 1 point behind them before they play their next game.
Fucking last, improving but still dead last in the UK, with a gap between the Welsh and Scotland who are the next up. And this is the primary reason for Wales having such economicsand social problems, low education levels mean firms don't set up there and the and brightest leave. Then they have an intake of the elderly who want to live in the scenic areas.
If it was separate from England, Wales would be the 5th. poorest EU country. Eastern Europe was part of the Soviet empire 25 years ago but some of the eastern countries have now overtaken Wales. They certainly have in terms of broadband speed!!
That's what 20 years of socialist (Labour party Variety) will do to your economy!
Unfortunately, this is correct. There is no real hope for Wales if Welsh Labour continue to dominate in the Senedd and so the Government never changes.
Anecdotally from super-marginal Notts, West Bridgford North, which is a new division overlapping a former division which Labour won from the Tories by 9 votes last time: 20 of us out this afternoon on the third canvass, focusing on Labour, LibDem and uncontacted this time. It's a middle-class but not university-linked area - typically youngish couples starting to move up the ladder.
The Laboujr vote seemed to have been correctly identified and was rock-solid - too few uncontacted to have a clear impression from those. People said the Tory effort there seemed slight - one leaflet received vs three from Labour, and a small Tory canvass team. Loads of Labour posters, none for other candidates. Green vote seemed very solid too, but LibDems crumbling to Labour and UKIP presumably to Tories - no UKIP candidate at all. Some Labour unhappiness over our not being anti-Brexit enough, but after a grumble those voters all said yeah, they'd vote for us anyway. Hard to call without seeing the non-Labour vote, but the strength of the Labour machine in Nottingham may see us home.
So what you are saying is that there is no swing in this constituency
Way too anecdotal given the current polls. More likely that the level of Labour presence/activity was making voters excessively polite - but dishonest - on the doorstep, than that this area has somehow completely bucked the national trend.
Door to door tends to meet with politeness in most parts. Everyone was civil to me yesterday.
The benefit of public presence is several fold, and important for democracy, but perhaps its significance for the politicians themselves is underestimated. The Mrs Duffy incident, and Gordons response fortold a lot that has gone on in the last 7 years. Similarly Tony Blair being given a dressing down at the hospital entrance in 2001. Ed Milibands response to the overspending question in the debates in 2015 was another unscripted turning point.
I think Theresa May is insulting the public by her hermetically sealed campaign and robotic mantras, but even more importantly she is losing out on learning from the Great British Public at one of the few times that the average Joe pays attention to politics. She could learn something. Ditto Jezza. I think Tim is an aficionado of doorstep politics.
But you explained in detail exactly why May shouldn't do anything but the stage managed stuff. Like you said, the Duffy moment killed Brown dead. Why take the risk? It's easy for flakes like Tim Farron, and even Corbyn to a degree, to say otherwise. Neither of them have a single jot to lose - May does.
Well, I've had worse days. Haven't seen Spurs dominate Arsenal like that for years. A huge gap in class. Cost me a bit, mind. But who gives a toss about that? If Arsenal finish 4th I still come out ahead.
Spurs and Arsenal are some kind of code for Tory and Labour, right?
Tories are Chelsea
In election year the colour of the govt is always the colour of the winning football team
we wear a fair bit of blue ourselves thank you....
It reads like a diary entry written on the eve of the launch of Barbarossa, whereas a more apt one today would be that of a solider on the seelow heights awaiting the inevitability of the Battle of Berlin.
Anyone fancying a punt against Carmichael in O&S might take into account the SNP candidate adopted, Miriam Brett; young, smart, presentable, Shetland born, untainted, might be the sort to turn the tables.
Tom Morton, BBC broadcaster & formerly very strong No supporter & now Yes has been positive about her.
Well, I've had worse days. Haven't seen Spurs dominate Arsenal like that for years. A huge gap in class. Cost me a bit, mind. But who gives a toss about that? If Arsenal finish 4th I still come out ahead.
Spurs and Arsenal are some kind of code for Tory and Labour, right?
Tories are Chelsea
In election year the colour of the govt is always the colour of the winning football team
we wear a fair bit of blue ourselves thank you....
Spurs always do better under Tory governments ;-)
Stockmarkets too....
2 HUGE wins since last weekend, Leicester away looks our hardest game as Man U will be down to Fergie and Steve Bruce as their CBs at this rate.
We need a miracle via Boro or West Brom... don't expect it but you never know.
Anecdotally from super-marginal Notts, West Bridgford North, which is a new division overlapping a former division which Labour won from the Tories by 9 votes last time: 20 of us out this afternoon on the third canvass, focusing on Labour, LibDem and uncontacted this time. It's a middle-class but not university-linked area - typically youngish couples starting to move up the ladder.
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So what you are saying is that there is no swing in this constituency
Way too anecdotal given the current polls. More likely that the level of Labour presence/activity was making voters excessively polite - but dishonest - on the doorstep, than that this area has somehow completely bucked the national trend.
Door to door tends to meet with politeness in most parts. Everyone was civil to me yesterday.
The benefit of public presence is several fold, and important for democracy, but perhaps its significance for the politicians themselves is underestimated. The Mrs Duffy incident, and Gordons response fortold a lot that has gone on in the last 7 years. Similarly Tony Blair being given a dressing down at the hospital entrance in 2001. Ed Milibands response to the overspending question in the debates in 2015 was another unscripted turning point.
I think Theresa May is insulting the public by her hermetically sealed campaign and robotic mantras, but even more importantly she is losing out on learning from the Great British Public at one of the few times that the average Joe pays attention to politics. She could learn something. Ditto Jezza. I think Tim is an aficionado of doorstep politics.
But you explained in detail exactly why May shouldn't do anything but the stage managed stuff. Like you said, the Duffy moment killed Brown dead. Why take the risk? It's easy for flakes like Tim Farron, and even Corbyn to a degree, to say otherwise. Neither of them have a single jot to lose - May does.
Fair play to any politician who does genuinely unscripted walkabouts and the like - particularly with modern phones, and loads of supporters of your opponent who will want their opportunity for some viral clip, you can bet someone will usually try to ambush you wish something.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
If you have ever tried counting chickens it is nevertheless quite difficult when they are hatched, because they keep moving around.
Anecdotally from super-marginal Notts, West Bridgford North, which is a new division overlapping a former division which Labour won from the Tories by 9 votes last time: 20 of us out this afternoon on the third canvass, focusing on Labour, LibDem and uncontacted this time. It's a middle-class but not university-linked area - typically youngish couples starting to move up the ladder.
The Laboujr vote seemed to have been correctly identified and was rock-solid - too few uncontacted to have a clear impression from those. People said the Tory effort there seemed slight - one leaflet received vs three from Labour, and a small Tory canvass team. Loads of Labour posters, none for other candidates. Green vote seemed very solid too, but LibDems crumbling to Labour and UKIP presumably to Tories - no UKIP candidate at all. Some Labour unhappiness over our not being anti-Brexit enough, but after a grumble those voters all said yeah, they'd vote for us anyway. Hard to call without seeing the non-Labour vote, but the strength of the Labour machine in Nottingham may see us home.
So what you are saying is that there is no swing in this constituency
Way too anecdotal given the current polls. More likely that the level of Labour presence/activity was making voters excessively polite - but dishonest - on the doorstep, than that this area has somehow completely bucked the national trend.
Door to door tends to meet with politeness in most parts. Everyone was civil to me yesterday.
The benefit of public presence is several fold, and important for democracy, but perhaps its significance for the politicians themselves is underestimated. The Mrs Duffy incident, and Gordons response fortold a lot that has gone on in the last 7 years. Similarly Tony Blair being given a dressing down at the hospital entrance in 2001. Ed Milibands response to the overspending question in the debates in 2015 was another unscripted turning point
But you explained in detail exactly why May shouldn't do anything but the stage managed stuff. Like you said, the Duffy moment killed Brown dead. Why take the risk? It's easy for flakes like Tim Farron, and even Corbyn to a degree, to say otherwise. Neither of them have a single jot to lose - May does.
The same complaint was made about Thatcher's campaign in 1979. There were lots of photo opportdunities and stage managed events. The election was her's to lose.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Well, I've had worse days. Haven't seen Spurs dominate Arsenal like that for years. A huge gap in class. Cost me a bit, mind. But who gives a toss about that? If Arsenal finish 4th I still come out ahead.
Spurs and Arsenal are some kind of code for Tory and Labour, right?
Tories are Chelsea
In election year the colour of the govt is always the colour of the winning football team
we wear a fair bit of blue ourselves thank you....
Spurs always do better under Tory governments ;-)
Stockmarkets too....
2 HUGE wins since last weekend, Leicester away looks our hardest game as Man U will be down to Fergie and Steve Bruce as their CBs at this rate.
We need a miracle via Boro or West Brom... don't expect it but you never know.
Leicester owe Chelsea a return favour for last year :-)
Should be a good game but I expect Chelsea to have the title the weekend before. West Brom were turgid yesterday, and Watford are on the beach.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
I mean gay sex sinning nonsense I can believe he doesn't, but eurospectic you are having a giraffe.
If it quotes him correctly, he regards himself as eurosceptic because he dares to question it occasionally, because he challenges people in power. That that might indeed be considered a eurosceptic position on the continent is one reason they have struggled to deal with some problems until they became big problems.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Openly canvassing eh? The sheer, audacious bravery of it!
Andrew Neil on Sunday Politics gave Alex Salmond the biggest car crash interview I have seen
Recommend it is watched on playback for an example how someone on top of their brief can make even the most experience politician look foolish and shifty
He also interviewed Ian Lavery, and he took him to the cleaners, indeed someone from labour should have thrown the towel in
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
I mean gay sex sinning nonsense I can believe he doesn't, but euroseptic you are having a giraffe.
Daily Mail. Britain’s print eqivalent of Fox News.
Ignoring their editorial position, are the quotes it attributes to him accurate is the point. 'I don't want to go off on a little bit of a rabbit hole here, but you will remember that I resigned from the Liberal Democrat front bench about 10 years ago because I am a bit of a Eurosceptic,' Mr Farron said.
'I'm somebody who challenges people in power - the EU, in Government, in councils - but I am somebody who believes Britain is better off in the European Union
Because if it is, that is not a eurosceptic position, that is what anyone on the Farage to William Glenn scale should do with people in power,.
He might need to remind us all a bit more about why he resigned in order to judge if he was being eurosceptic, since challenging those in power is not in itself such a position.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
They should ask yougov to rustle some up, they never have problems finding SCON members.
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
You may find out on the 8th June how foolish that statement looks
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
You may find out on the 8th June how foolish that statement looks
Well, there will still definitely more SNP members than SCON, but it is certainly ytrue the latter are more numerous than they used to be in recent times.
I see Tim Farron's reticence on "theological" matters has evaporated.
The Lib Dems are buying advertising space on Google to promote a page entitled "Tim Farron: 'I do not think gay sex is a sin'", incorporating a rather selective version of his voting record on LGBT issues.
Is that wise? It sounds like "when did you stop beating your wife" territory
It does remind me a bit of the occasion when the Labour Party held a press conference during the 1983 election campaign to announce that Michael Foot was still the leader.
But presumably they reckon so many people have got the impression that Farron does think gay sex is a sin that it's worthwhile.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
I see Tim Farron's reticence on "theological" matters has evaporated.
The Lib Dems are buying advertising space on Google to promote a page entitled "Tim Farron: 'I do not think gay sex is a sin'", incorporating a rather selective version of his voting record on LGBT issues.
Is that wise? It sounds like "when did you stop beating your wife" territory
It does remind me a bit of the occasion when the Labour Party held a press conference during the 1983 election campaign to announce that Michael Foot was still the leader.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Come on, even the PB Tories jest about baby eating.
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
Many inside the hall were not Tory party members but tenants living nearby. In fcat, some local Tories complained that they were not told about the PMs visit.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
It is clear you have never canvassed yourself. However she is out canvassing, unlike Corbyn hiding in labour strongholds and knocking on party members doors
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
It is clear you have never canvassed yourself. However she is out canvassing, unlike Corbyn hiding in labour strongholds and knocking on party members doors
I have put so many miles that I could fly around the world free. Even here in Surbiton, I canvassed for Sadiq Khan and the Euros. I don't waste time on no-hopers.
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
Many inside the hall were not Tory party members but tenants living nearby. In fcat, some local Tories complained that they were not told about the PMs visit.
Impossible. I have been assured by PB only 2 scenarios exist 1) The Tories are universally despised outside an aging and dying cadre of racist nutbags, and any evidence to the contrary is pathetic spinning, or 2) The triumphant and surging Tory unionists are but moments away from whupping the SNP out of their hideaways like the carrion eaters they are, and only mercy means they aren't taking a referendum now to settle this issue now.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Come on, even the PB Tories jest about baby eating.
How can you even jest about 'baby eating' - some may but I expected more from you to be honest
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Come on, even the PB Tories jest about baby eating.
Andrew Neil on Sunday Politics gave Alex Salmond the biggest car crash interview I have seen
Recommend it is watched on playback for an example how someone on top of their brief can make even the most experience politician look foolish and shifty
He also interviewed Ian Lavery, and he took him to the cleaners, indeed someone from labour should have thrown the towel in
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Come on, even the PB Tories jest about baby eating.
How can you even jest about 'baby eating' - some may but I expected more from you to be honest
I'm just sad you've never expected better from the rest of us!
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
Many inside the hall were not Tory party members but tenants living nearby. In fcat, some local Tories complained that they were not told about the PMs visit.
By your own admission it was an open meeting and forward notice of the PM attending an event will not happen due to security requirements.
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
It is clear you have never canvassed yourself. However she is out canvassing, unlike Corbyn hiding in labour strongholds and knocking on party members doors
Chill oot. You spend too much time on here and watching sky news.
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
Many inside the hall were not Tory party members but tenants living nearby. In fcat, some local Tories complained that they were not told about the PMs visit.
By your own admission it was an open meeting and forward notice of the PM attending an event will not happen due to security requirements.
I see Tim Farron's reticence on "theological" matters has evaporated.
The Lib Dems are buying advertising space on Google to promote a page entitled "Tim Farron: 'I do not think gay sex is a sin'", incorporating a rather selective version of his voting record on LGBT issues.
Is that wise? It sounds like "when did you stop beating your wife" territory
It does remind me a bit of the occasion when the Labour Party held a press conference during the 1983 election campaign to announce that Michael Foot was still the leader.
That cannot have really happened, did it?!
I have heard that Tim Farron has chosen the Pet Shop Boys song "it's a sin" to accompany him on his battle bus excursions:
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
Many inside the hall were not Tory party members but tenants living nearby. In fcat, some local Tories complained that they were not told about the PMs visit.
By your own admission it was an open meeting and forward notice of the PM attending an event will not happen due to security requirements.
You have now joined Carlotta and Fitalass. Somehow you have to answer any comment made about Theresa May.
Of course, before June 23rd, it was Cameron. I bet you voted Remain.
The young people's working holiday visa is an interesting idea but it surely has to have a two way benefit. Australia has an 18-30 reciprocal holiday visa scheme with 15 EU states including the UK. New Zealand has a similar scheme - although Brits are the only nationals who get access to reciprocal health care.
The problem with a post Brexit EU style working holiday visa scheme is that there is mass youth unemployment in many states - so the pull is one way. How many young Brits are going to go and work in Eastern Europe - they haven't done so so far in big numbers?
I am fine with the idea - but it should be with nations that also have a pull factor for British young people eg Australia and New Zealand as we have now.
There are lots of young Brits who'd like the opportunity to work for two years anywhere they want in the EU, with the possibility of staying on if they start a good career/business. The young voted Remain, this reciprocal Young Europeans Visa is a way of honouring that, and being nice to our EU friends and neighbours, without allowing total FoM.
The key, again, is in denying benefits. If you haven't got a job, you'll have to go home, because you won't get any welfare. Nor will you be allowed in if you've got kids, and you won't be able to bring family (unless you manage to upgrade your visa). If you're found sleeping rough: sling your hook, etc
The government has already admitted we do need young Europeans, especially in industries like hospitality, etc. But it's farcical to say to some young Italian, hey come over, but you can only make panini, you're not allowed to change your mind and work in another industry, and then you MUST go home, sorry, even if you start a brilliant Fintech company.
Let them come and work wherever they want. Give them two years, but no welfare. Most will return home, with their English improved (which is what most of them want). The super talented and keen will be able to stay, and yay for them. Pret will not shut down.
Job done.
Neat enough idea, and it sounds good to me. I just wonder how satisfying the people who voted out with the idea that they would be able to keep migrants out altogether will find it.
Andrew Neil on Sunday Politics gave Alex Salmond the biggest car crash interview I have seen
Recommend it is watched on playback for an example how someone on top of their brief can make even the most experience politician look foolish and shifty
He also interviewed Ian Lavery, and he took him to the cleaners, indeed someone from labour should have thrown the towel in
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
English Tories brought in on buses, no doubt, or she's meeting them at the puppy kicking competition at the local tory headquarters.
titters...
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
"Chuck another bairn on the barbie, Theresa May is here... "
You know, from a professional person, I think that comment is beneath you - I would have expected better
Come on, even the PB Tories jest about baby eating.
How can you even jest about 'baby eating' - some may but I expected more from you to be honest
Andrew Neil on Sunday Politics gave Alex Salmond the biggest car crash interview I have seen
Recommend it is watched on playback for an example how someone on top of their brief can make even the most experience politician look foolish and shifty
He also interviewed Ian Lavery, and he took him to the cleaners, indeed someone from labour should have thrown the towel in
Who is Ian Lavery ?
Jeremy Corbyn's election co-ordinator of all people
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Openly canvassing eh? The sheer, audacious bravery of it!
What next? Will Strong and Stable TMay takes her uncompromising message to the mean streets of Abbey St. Bathans or Coldstream?
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
It is clear you have never canvassed yourself. However she is out canvassing, unlike Corbyn hiding in labour strongholds and knocking on party members doors
Chill oot. You spend too much time on here and watching sky news.
What is wrong with Sky news.
Some of the Scots Nats on here are showing signs of panic - calm down and wait for the 8th June to see how this pans out
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
This conservative is not counting any chickens. However there is a move to the conservatives in Scotland and they should win more seats
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
Say it ain't so.. she's actually meeting real voters?
No danger.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
It is clear you have never canvassed yourself. However she is out canvassing, unlike Corbyn hiding in labour strongholds and knocking on party members doors
Chill oot. You spend too much time on here and watching sky news.
What is wrong with Sky news.
Some of the Scots Nats on here are showing signs of panic - calm down and wait for the 8th June to see how this pans out
Next Thur will give us an idea - I'm not panicking ! - yet !!
I mean gay sex sinning nonsense I can believe he doesn't, but eurospectic you are having a giraffe.
If it quotes him correctly, he regards himself as eurosceptic because he dares to question it occasionally, because he challenges people in power. That that might indeed be considered a eurosceptic position on the continent is one reason they have struggled to deal with some problems until they became big problems.
I'm similarly eurosceptic. People like Farage aren't eurosceptic at all - they're anti-EU. They didn't mind the term "eurosceptic" though because it meant they could still take part in EU democracy etc. without appearing to be the hypocrites that they are.
There are lots of young Brits who'd like the opportunity to work for two years anywhere they want in the EU, with the possibility of staying on if they start a good career/business. The young voted Remain, this reciprocal Young Europeans Visa is a way of honouring that, and being nice to our EU friends and neighbours, without allowing total FoM.
The key, again, is in denying benefits. If you haven't got a job, you'll have to go home, because you won't get any welfare. Nor will you be allowed in if you've got kids, and you won't be able to bring family (unless you manage to upgrade your visa). If you're found sleeping rough: sling your hook, etc
The government has already admitted we do need young Europeans, especially in industries like hospitality, etc. But it's farcical to say to some young Italian, hey come over, but you can only make panini, you're not allowed to change your mind and work in another industry, and then you MUST go home, sorry, even if you start a brilliant Fintech company.
Let them come and work wherever they want. Give them two years, but no welfare. Most will return home, with their English improved (which is what most of them want). The super talented and keen will be able to stay, and yay for them. Pret will not shut down.
Job done.
Neat enough idea, and it sounds good to me. I just wonder how satisfying the people who voted out with the idea that they would be able to keep migrants out altogether will find it.
Two points here - first that it misrepresents the current situation - the mistaken belief that people from the EU can come here and leech off the system. Of course they can't, and if it does happen it's only because our authorities are sloppy at doing their job properly.
Second, why should people who work overseas be expected to pay the same tax as everyone else but not be entitled to the same benefits as everyone else?
Bonus point: as someone else mentioned, one reason some people, especially Asians, voted for Brexit is that preferring EU workers over workers from other countries is unfair. So a Young Europeans Visa would perpetuate the racism that Brexit was suppsoed to end.
May is starting her campaign where John Major finished his successful 1992 campaign, out campaigning amongst the people in the streets.
Smart move. May has got a lot of support for being the 'grown up' picking up the pieces after Gove, Johnson and the other mean boys smashed in the windows during Brexit, then ran off. Whatever you think of her personal charisma, getting out and meeting real people (stage-managed or not) can only cement that reputation of sleeves-rolled-up getting on with it.
People didn't give Major enough credit for the effect of his stump-campaigning in 1992. It really did make people pause and think about his as different, instead of the usual cynicism and thinking that 'they are all as bad as each other'...
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Should we invite Sion along?
Bring on the spanners.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yn4IpyVViw4
2 HUGE wins since last weekend, Leicester away looks our hardest game as Man U will be down to Fergie and Steve Bruce as their CBs at this rate.
We need a miracle via Boro or West Brom... don't expect it but you never know.
'Graeme Souness admits he voted for Brexit in surreal rant on English football '
https://tinyurl.com/loy7l7e
Yes SNP at 36 on YouGov crossbreak but at 46 on ORB crossbreak and at 50% on Opinium crossbreak. I hear the sound of lots of Tory chickens being counted!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTcVprNH3ns
Sky just showed Theresa May openly canvassing in Aberdeenshire
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4460032/Lib-Dem-Remoaner-Tim-Farron-claims-EUROSCEPTIC.html
I mean gay sex sinning nonsense I can believe he doesn't, but euroseptic you are having a giraffe.
Should be a good game but I expect Chelsea to have the title the weekend before. West Brom were turgid yesterday, and Watford are on the beach.
Well I think they'd have to be put up in rented accommodation for her to be able to knock on the door and meet them
Recommend it is watched on playback for an example how someone on top of their brief can make even the most experience politician look foolish and shifty
He also interviewed Ian Lavery, and he took him to the cleaners, indeed someone from labour should have thrown the towel in
However, I can't help but remember the Mail referring to an 'openly gay' Supreme Court judge...
John Ch8 vv1-11 springs to mind.
The Prime Minister went to three doors in Banchory before being interviewed by a ferocious reporter called Ruth Davidson after a meeting in a village hall booked for a childrens party and which hold 150 and stuffed with every member the Tories could find from across the North East.
'I don't want to go off on a little bit of a rabbit hole here, but you will remember that I resigned from the Liberal Democrat front bench about 10 years ago because I am a bit of a Eurosceptic,' Mr Farron said.
'I'm somebody who challenges people in power - the EU, in Government, in councils - but I am somebody who believes Britain is better off in the European Union
Because if it is, that is not a eurosceptic position, that is what anyone on the Farage to William Glenn scale should do with people in power,.
He might need to remind us all a bit more about why he resigned in order to judge if he was being eurosceptic, since challenging those in power is not in itself such a position.
But presumably they reckon so many people have got the impression that Farron does think gay sex is a sin that it's worthwhile.
'Anyone there? Theresa May hits a snag doorknocking in Aberdeenshire'
https://tinyurl.com/kvure6v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHetRTOD1Q
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/twenty-years-on-tories-finally-get-a-taste-of-revenge-1-4433403
Of course, before June 23rd, it was Cameron. I bet you voted Remain.
Or perhaps she just likes playing Knock down ginger...
You're already on 1 strike with your baby eating slur.
NEW THREAD
Looks like many ex-communists are voting for her.
Some of the Scots Nats on here are showing signs of panic - calm down and wait for the 8th June to see how this pans out
Second, why should people who work overseas be expected to pay the same tax as everyone else but not be entitled to the same benefits as everyone else?
Bonus point: as someone else mentioned, one reason some people, especially Asians, voted for Brexit is that preferring EU workers over workers from other countries is unfair. So a Young Europeans Visa would perpetuate the racism that Brexit was suppsoed to end.
People didn't give Major enough credit for the effect of his stump-campaigning in 1992. It really did make people pause and think about his as different, instead of the usual cynicism and thinking that 'they are all as bad as each other'...