What you really should be angry about Don is that money doesn't grow on trees. If it did, Corbyn would be your man and everyone else's, maybe. "Maybe", because even then Labour would argue about where to spend it first and waste it.
Corbyn is not the cause of Labour's woes, he is merely a symptom of a "party" that has run out of time. Labour is an anachronism.
Yep, but they've removed it from the actual name, and have admitted to doing so to appeal to non-religious customers. So had the National Trust too, before they quietly put it back in on their website.
Chocolate eggs were invented in 1873. I don't remember them in the bible.
Yes, and they were stained red to represent the blood of Christ. Hee-haw to do with hollow eggs representing the empty tomb.
Delicious chocolate eggs started in the 1800s and were created because chocolate is delicious and the egg shape is a great novelty that sells well of the back of an old tradition.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
Everybody from the Ven Bede on recognises that the name is lifted from British paganism, and eggz=new life is too much of a cliche for anyone to assert ownership of it.
It is a holiday because it is a Christian festival celebrating Christ's resurrection not to celebrate the Pagan rite of spring, I would have the same objection to exploitation of Hannukah or Eid without acknowledgement
I don't do religion, but I find it a bit cheeky that the retail calendar is pretty much split up into 3 seasons- Christmas runs from September to New Years, Easter runs from January 1st until Easter Sunday, and then you have the Halloween/Guy Fawkes season overlapping with the start of Christmas, and then the retailers chuck a few more religious festivals that they think they can get a few quid out of in between.
Yep, but they've removed it from the actual name, and have admitted to doing so to appeal to non-religious customers. So had the National Trust too, before they quietly put it back in on their website.
Chocolate eggs were invented in 1873. I don't remember them in the bible.
Yes, and they were stained red to represent the blood of Christ. Hee-haw to do with hollow eggs representing the empty tomb.
Delicious chocolate eggs started in the 1800s and were created because chocolate is delicious and the egg shape is a great novelty that sells well of the back of an old tradition.
There was blood in Christ's tomb and again the tradition of Easter Eggs derived from Christian origin
Actually, there are a number of very good Labour-run local authorities providing very good services under very difficult circumstances. These are largely run by the moderate wing of the party and so do not get a look in at national level right now. But it is from these that any Labour fight-back will begin.
This is also another point which will help Labour a bit, after Corbyn has gone. In the 1980s, Labour councils were still acting up right til the end of the decade, even after Kinnock had started putting the national party's house in order. (In the 1987 election, in London in particular, actions of Labour councils were often cited by people as the main reason to vote against them, rather than the national party's policies.)
By contrast, this time round, Labour councils have been very restrained. And that doesn't look like it's going to change, because deselections of current councillors are still very rare, despite all the dire warnings when Corbyn first came in.
I'm now fairly active in Nottingham Labour (as distinct from the County where I was based before), and the private briefings from councillors are quite heart-warming - full of detailed factual information, with crisp political criticism of the Governmnent's cuts supplemented with eagerness to take advantage of any positive aspects for the people affected: "there is nothing socialist about people on emergency beds waiting in corridors if we can find a way to avoid it", as one said.
The quite extraordinary squeeze on local authority spending has gone largely unremarked in the general public, though the effects are certainly noticed (and often blamed on the local authorities).
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
You are trying to have it both ways. Your minority religious cult interferes with my secular life by arranging for Tesco to close early on a pseudorandom Friday in March/April because of a claimed historical event in the Levant in probably the early 30s AD. If you want the world of chocolate consumption not to mess you about, you stop messing everyone else about first. Disestablish.
And don't tell me we are an historically Christian country. We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders. That was then, this is now.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
Everybody from the Ven Bede on recognises that the name is lifted from British paganism, and eggz=new life is too much of a cliche for anyone to assert ownership of it.
It is a holiday because it is a Christian festival celebrating Christ's resurrection not to celebrate the Pagan rite of spring, I would have the same objection to exploitation of Hannukah or Eid without acknowledgement
I don't do religion, but I find it a bit cheeky that the retail calendar is pretty much split up into 3 seasons- Christmas runs from September to New Years, Easter runs from January 1st until Easter Sunday, and then you have the Halloween/Guy Fawkes season overlapping with the start of Christmas, and then the retailers chuck a few more religious festivals that they think they can get a few quid out of in between.
Yes they exploit religious festivals mercilessly
Which is good because that's been happening for many thousands of years. The "true meaning" of Easter is spring and new life, hence the bunny. It predates the window dressing of Christ that has been tacked on to it. That corporations do the same as the Church and join the bandwagon of these Pagan festivals is great for the economy and great for traditions and our culture.
Without wishing to prolong the Easter thing are people saying that Cadbury's chocolate bunnies showed due reverence to the Christian faith when they had the word Easter on them but now that they are just, um, chocolate bunnies they are violating ancient religious precepts?
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
You are trying to have it both ways. Your minority religious cult interferes with else about first. Disestablish.
And don't tell me we are an historically Christian country. We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders. That was then, this is now.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
How does one get onto the speaker circuit? Does one need an agent or send in one's CV to one of the many agencies?
If anyone has any brilliant ideas, let me know or vanilla mail me.
Thank you
Suggestion: Search online for names of speakers who might be your competition or who do similar work in slightly different fields. If they have websites or social media profiles they'll probably have a contact page pointing to an agent or manager.
Do some digging on the agencies and maybe approach a couple directly to see what they say. Meet them at their offices to see who they are and what they do - lots of one man bands with fancy looking websites and a handful of mobile phones can look like a large agency from a distance.
Be wary of 'exclusivity' clauses in contracts - but you're a lawyer and know that
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
Everybody from the Ven Bede on recognises that the name is lifted from British paganism, and eggz=new life is too much of a cliche for anyone to assert ownership of it.
It is a holiday because it is a Christian festival celebrating Christ's resurrection not to celebrate the Pagan rite of spring, I would have the same objection to exploitation of Hannukah or Eid without acknowledgement
I don't do religion, but I find it a bit cheeky that the retail calendar is pretty much split up into 3 seasons- Christmas runs from September to New Years, Easter runs from January 1st until Easter Sunday, and then you have the Halloween/Guy Fawkes season overlapping with the start of Christmas, and then the retailers chuck a few more religious festivals that they think they can get a few quid out of in between.
Yes they exploit religious festivals mercilessly
Which is good because that's been happening for many thousands of years. The "true meaning" of Easter is spring and new life, hence the bunny. It predates the window dressing of Christ that has been tacked on to it. That corporations do the same as the Church and join the bandwagon of these Pagan festivals is great for the economy and great for traditions and our culture.
It is not Spring the holiday was given for though but the Resurrection
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
You are trying to have it both ways. Your minority religious cult interferes with else about first. Disestablish.
And don't tell me we are an historically Christian country. We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders. That was then, this is now.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
“If we, as Europe, don’t become fully fledged partners on the world stage we will all individually become the plaything of other powers and I suspect that is what Michael Heseltine, a Briton of all people, was thinking when he recently said in an interview that Brexit was the biggest loss of sovereignty he can recollect, and he may be right.
“Populists paint the world black and white and turn fears into political capital … Take back control is a strong slogan that we hear everywhere. Nationalists are unable to deliver it and if it can be delivered at all, it is something we can only do together.
“It is irresponsible to lead people to believe that, in a world that is becoming more complex, the answers are becoming more simple.”
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
You are trying to have it both ways. Your minority religious cult interferes with else about first. Disestablish.
And don't tell me we are an historically Christian country. We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders. That was then, this is now.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave n be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
This wouldn't have happened under Ed and Dave...
Dave could have said the same as May, Clegg, Osborne and Miliband would have been more sympathetic to Cadbury, it is traditionalists and statists v liberals and libertarians writ large
"We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders."
I should have thought that the number of people involved in the slave trade was very small, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of the population.
"How do Bhuddists feel about chocolate bunnies?"
Fine thanks. I don't eat them myself, mind, because they are usually made out of rubbish chocolate (and I won't touch anything from Cadbury's these days for the same reason).
Actually, there are a number of very good Labour-run local authorities providing very good services under very difficult circumstances. These are largely run by the moderate wing of the party and so do not get a look in at national level right now. But it is from these that any Labour fight-back will begin.
This is also another point which will help Labour a bit, after Corbyn has gone. In the 1980s, Labour councils were still acting up right til the end of the decade, even after Kinnock had started putting the national party's house in order. (In the 1987 election, in London in particular, actions of Labour councils were often cited by people as the main reason to vote against them, rather than the national party's policies.)
By contrast, this time round, Labour councils have been very restrained. And that doesn't look like it's going to change, because deselections of current councillors are still very rare, despite all the dire warnings when Corbyn first came in.
I'm now fairly active in Nottingham Labour (as distinct from the County where I was based before), and the private briefings from councillors are quite heart-warming - full of detailed factual information, with crisp political criticism of the Governmnent's cuts supplemented with eagerness to take advantage of any positive aspects for the people affected: "there is nothing socialist about people on emergency beds waiting in corridors if we can find a way to avoid it", as one said.
The quite extraordinary squeeze on local authority spending has gone largely unremarked in the general public, though the effects are certainly noticed (and often blamed on the local authorities).
"The belated change comes after a report to the authority’s cabinet earlier this year and suppliers are now being asked to bid for several contracts."
Why is a report needed to realise that painting fleets of vehicles orange costs more than just taking the plain white ones ?
White has better resale value as well
This is a good example of what @SouthamObserver and I discussed earlier - a few well run councils that are (finally!) starting to care about where the pennies go. A few stickers on a van cost about fifty quid, painting it costs a couple of grand. Hey, you just saved 10% of the price of every new van in the council yard - and they'll probably be easier to sell on later. Win win win.
Most of those you are having a giraffe...Looking at the winners and runners up, I presume other than the specific US category, they had to be UK shows....
But best crime drama....Happy Valley isn't even the best crime show in any year, let alone 21 Century.....and yeah yeah sure its way better than the Wire...course it is...
Best sci-fi & fantasy - Merlin....No sign of Westworld, Hopkins amazing performance, amazing plot....instant classic.
Probably says more about Radio Times readers than TV drama in general.
Sure...I mean in this day and age who the hell pays for a magazine to tell you what time telly shows are on and some fluff pieces about the stars of them....
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
Well they decided to buy them from us for some reason and given how much mulla they have in Saudi i don't think they go for the cheap options.
Buying inferior weapons may actually perversely make it worse. If they genuinely aren't trying to kill civilians (I would hope they aren't, but you never know), then having a missile that can accurately target someone is a plus.
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
HEY, RobD, don't worry! Me and my squad of ultimate Brexiteers will protect you! Check it out. Independently targeting particle-beam phalanx. WHAP! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phase plasma pulse rifles, RPGs. We got sonic, electronic ball-breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks...
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
Well they decided to buy them from us for some reason and given how much mulla they have in Saudi i don't think they go for the cheap options.
Buying inferior weapons may actually perversely make it worse. If they genuinely aren't trying to kill civilians (I would hope they aren't, but you never know), then having a missile that can accurately target someone is a plus.
My strong suspicion is that they simply do not care about collateral damage.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ and films on Norse mythology actually tell the story!
That well known Norse myth about Thor taking on the Incredible Hulk. Yes, I remember studying that one at school.
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
HEY, RobD, don't worry! Me and my squad of ultimate Brexiteers will protect you! Check it out. Independently targeting particle-beam phalanx. WHAP! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phase plasma pulse rifles, RPGs. We got sonic, electronic ball-breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks...
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
Not for much longer it would seem. Their silly war against the US domestic oil producers has been a disaster, on top of which a rapidly growing population with a cradle to grave welfare system that soon will not be affordable and Saudi is heading for the shitter. And that is before we factor in that the West is moving rapidly away from an oil based economy.
Thanks for the clarification although I have no recollection of interacting with the poster you have named as I have been careful not to do so ever since you first established that ordinance. I am not challenging you on this point, merely saying I don't recall the incident. If you could PM me with clarification, that would be great.
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
HEY, RobD, don't worry! Me and my squad of ultimate Brexiteers will protect you! Check it out. Independently targeting particle-beam phalanx. WHAP! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phase plasma pulse rifles, RPGs. We got sonic, electronic ball-breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks...
Mummy will have you evacuated on a train, with your gas mask in a box tied with a piece of string.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
I think the bus on that outrage has already left the station, since how many people enjoying an easter egg know that supposed symbolism?
That is not the point, the point is it is a symbol of the Easter holiday mandated by government and May has reinforced that message alongside Corbyn and the Church to reestablish its religious meaning against the militant securalism being pushed by Cadbury
What May and Corbyn have to say on the matter is irrelevant. The festival is a pagan festival and you could equally argue that Christianity has itself coopted it for its own financial gain.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
Everybody from the Ven Bede on recognises that the name is lifted from British paganism, and eggz=new life is too much of a cliche for anyone to assert ownership of it.
It is a holiday because it is a Christian festival celebrating Christ's resurrection not to celebrate the Pagan rite of spring, I would have the same objection to exploitation of Hannukah or Eid without acknowledgement
I don't do religion, but I find it a bit cheeky that the retail calendar is pretty much split up into 3 seasons- Christmas runs from September to New Years, Easter runs from January 1st until Easter Sunday, and then you have the Halloween/Guy Fawkes season overlapping with the start of Christmas, and then the retailers chuck a few more religious festivals that they think they can get a few quid out of in between.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ and films on Norse mythology actually tell the story!
That well known Norse myth about Thor taking on the Incredible Hulk. Yes, I remember studying that one at school.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
How does one get onto the speaker circuit? Does one need an agent or send in one's CV to one of the many agencies?
If anyone has any brilliant ideas, let me know or vanilla mail me.
Thank you
There are agencies that specialize in this. I was on the Greater Talent Network for a while, for instance. Don't know UK-specific ones, but I am sure Google can help out.
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
I think the bus on that outrage has already left the station, since how many people enjoying an easter egg know that supposed symbolism?
That is not the point, the point is it is a symbol of the Easter holiday mandated by government and May has reinforced that message alongside Corbyn and the Church to reestablish its religious meaning against the militant securalism being pushed by Cadbury
What May and Corbyn have to say on the matter is irrelevant. The festival is a pagan festival and you could equally argue that Christianity has itself coopted it for its own financial gain.
The holiday is a Christian festival and this is part of the culture war
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
Marking a holiday given to you to commemorate a Christian festival
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
Everybody from the Ven Bede on recognises that the name is lifted from British paganism, and eggz=new life is too much of a cliche for anyone to assert ownership of it.
It is a holiday because it is a Christian festival celebrating Christ's resurrection not to celebrate the Pagan rite of spring, I would have the same objection to exploitation of Hannukah or Eid without acknowledgement
I don't do religion, but I find it a bit cheeky that the retail calendar is pretty much split up into 3 seasons- Christmas runs from September to New Years, Easter runs from January 1st until Easter Sunday, and then you have the Halloween/Guy Fawkes season overlapping with the start of Christmas, and then the retailers chuck a few more religious festivals that they think they can get a few quid out of in between.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
Marking a holiday given to you to commemorate a Christian festival
Corbyn backs May? Another sign she's reacting poorly. (In all fairness, some of his ideas are not terrible)
Deary me.
This is between Kraft and the National Trust. What business is it of politicians ?-
Indeed. The Easter egg story is perhaps the most pathetic non-story to lead the news in the last decade. That Corbyn is now getting involved doesn't surprise me.
Not for Christians it isn't and Egggate has brought May and Corbyn together in a rare display of unity
Which says more about them than it does about Kraft-Cadbury. Who gives a flying cluck?
Those who don't want a corporation using a Christian festival and symbolism for their own commercial gain without acknowledging the copyright
It's a pagan festival. And so what?
It is the resurrection of Christ the holiday is for and Cadbury were exploiting
Presumably we can expect similar outrage directed towards the film studios for exploiting Norse mythology.
Easter eggs symbolise the empty tomb of Christ ...
No they don't; what is the point of similarity?
Yes they do, they symbolise Christ's tomb and their opening his resurrection, if Islamic symbols were exploited in this way there would be an even more forceful response
I think the bus on that outrage has already left the station, since how many people enjoying an easter egg know that supposed symbolism?
That is not the point, the point is it is a symbol of the Easter holiday mandated by government and May has reinforced that message alongside Corbyn and the Church to reestablish its religious meaning against the militant securalism being pushed by Cadbury
What May and Corbyn have to say on the matter is irrelevant. The festival is a pagan festival and you could equally argue that Christianity has itself coopted it for its own financial gain.
Where ? At the feet, body, head, anywhere of Corbyn and the loonies. It is not that they are incompetent. This lot are not good politicians either. Left wingers were smart about such things. Look at how Livingstone manipulated matters against a hostile press.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
Why do the top 1% pay 30% of income tax? Because income inequality has increased considerably since the top rate last stood at 83% and Mrs. Thatcher was PM. The marginal tax and NI rate is now higher if one earns £100k/y than if one earns £1-10M. One loses the personal allowance and beyond a point one pays no more NI. That makes little sense.
Ending the NI upper limit would have support I think if it goes to 'health and social security'. We could also pay a higher state pension on much higher incomes, in return for some but not all of the extra NI. The US does.
The upper limit on NI was removed years ago. There is no point where one stops paying NI. The rate drops to 2% for earnings over about £43k but it does not drop to zero no matter how much you earn.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Presumably they would buy inferior weapons? That's something.
I doubt ours are that special!
Well they decided to buy them from us for some reason and given how much mulla they have in Saudi i don't think they go for the cheap options.
Buying inferior weapons may actually perversely make it worse. If they genuinely aren't trying to kill civilians (I would hope they aren't, but you never know), then having a missile that can accurately target someone is a plus.
Yes I am sure all those women and children were well armed
Why do the top 1% pay 30% of income tax? Because income inequality has increased considerably since the top rate last stood at 83% and Mrs. Thatcher was PM. The marginal tax and NI rate is now higher if one earns £100k/y than if one earns £1-10M. One loses the personal allowance and beyond a point one pays no more NI. That makes little sense.
Ending the NI upper limit would have support I think if it goes to 'health and social security'. We could also pay a higher state pension on much higher incomes, in return for some but not all of the extra NI. The US does.
The upper limit on NI was removed years ago. There is no point where one stops paying NI. The rate drops to 2% for earnings over about £43k but it does not drop to zero no matter how much you earn.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
But the marginal rate of tax for someone on £100k is about 60% de to the personal allowance withdrawal, which is lower than for someone on £150k
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Why do we bullshit about we can influence them ? Do they give a shit ? Do we give a shit ? It's some Yemeni children are dying. Thanks to British exports.
The holiday is given to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, it is not a secular bank holiday, there is no holiday related to the slave trade in the UK. In some ways May and Corbyn are leading a backlash for those of faith against metropolitan liberalism, it could even be said to be a symbol of a culture war which Brexit has driven home, Farage was notably critical of Cadbury too, liberals and the Guardian supportive
If a belief is so nonsensical that trying to impose it on people as a matter of politics looks a good idea, and that May, Corbyn and Farage's support is adduced as evidence that it is true, it is too nonsensical to believe in the first place.
It is still the basis of the Easter holiday and if companies want to exploit they exploit what comes with it too
I will be exploiting the Easter holiday by having four days off eating and drinking. Come and have a go if you think you are pious enough.
Marking a holiday given to you to commemorate a Christian festival
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
That regime buys vast quantities of our exports
And would just buy their weapons from elsewhere. The small consolation is we can try and use that influence to do some good.
Why do we bullshit about we can influence them ? Do they give a shit ? Do we give a shit ? It's some Yemeni children are dying. Thanks to British exports.
I doubt you think Britain could influence anything, so is it worth arguing?
So a chemical weapons attack in Syria and the PM selling weapons to an evil regime and we are talking about chocolate eggs?
Don't lecture us sunshine there's always CiF if you feel we're insufficiently relevant here.
Charmed I'm sure. It is funny how lefties are always pro terrorist anti Israeli, etc, yet suggest not doing business with the Saudis ...outrageous.
That's as maybe. But in what way does it follow on from your berating us for not discussing the ishoos?
Or are you starting your own mini-thread?
I wasn't berating anyone. I certainly didn't intend to give any such impression. If it came across as such then I apologise. Edit. Having read back I can see how it could. Poor choice of words. Mea culpa.
**** The upper limit on NI was removed years ago. There is no point where one stops paying NI. The rate drops to 2% for earnings over about £43k but it does not drop to zero no matter how much you earn.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
**** N.B. The quote button is 'playing up'. Replying to above comment:
I know these are figures for 2013 but I'm not aware of the system being rationalised since. Of course, this firm of accountants claims that paying them for advice might reduce these rates somewhat. But they seem unlikely to drop as low as the marginal rate paid on incomes in the range £1-10M/y.
The top income tax rate is 45%. If NI falls to 2%, the marginal tax rate at those income levels will be 47%. That's the usual definition of 'marginal', i.e., it's the tax rate paid on each extra £ of income.
I think the LDs ought to be aiming to overtake Labour in the projected national vote share in May. They could get around 23% and Labour could slip to just below that if they do really badly.
That is a bold prediction. Are you talking actual votes or equivalent national share?
Equivalent vote share. It's not a prediction though, just what could happen if Labour do particularly badly.
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Corbyn is not the cause of Labour's woes, he is merely a symptom of a "party" that has run out of time. Labour is an anachronism.
Chocolate. And @MaxPB.
The best chocolate in the world comes from Sprungli in Zurich. Which is where Max is. Lucky so-and-so.
Delicious chocolate eggs started in the 1800s and were created because chocolate is delicious and the egg shape is a great novelty that sells well of the back of an old tradition.
Mr. M, I was hoping someone would notice it
Between that and the comment on Corbyn liking, or not, this Easter uprising, one feels pleased with one's posts today.
I also recommend the West Wing podcast which discusses each episode and has interviews with cast/writers etc.
One of the hosts is Josh Malina aka Will Bailey.
And don't tell me we are an historically Christian country. We are also historically a nation of wholesale slave traders. That was then, this is now.
Surely the British House of Cards is the best ever, excluding B'stard as a frivolous venture.
http://www.realeasteregg.co.uk/
how do Bhuddists feel about chocolate bunnies?
Do some digging on the agencies and maybe approach a couple directly to see what they say. Meet them at their offices to see who they are and what they do - lots of one man bands with fancy looking websites and a handful of mobile phones can look like a large agency from a distance.
Be wary of 'exclusivity' clauses in contracts - but you're a lawyer and know that
Good luck!
Rock 'n' Roll Dreams by Meatloaf.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/04/german-president-attacks-irresponsible-brexit-campaign
“If we, as Europe, don’t become fully fledged partners on the world stage we will all individually become the plaything of other powers and I suspect that is what Michael Heseltine, a Briton of all people, was thinking when he recently said in an interview that Brexit was the biggest loss of sovereignty he can recollect, and he may be right.
“Populists paint the world black and white and turn fears into political capital … Take back control is a strong slogan that we hear everywhere. Nationalists are unable to deliver it and if it can be delivered at all, it is something we can only do together.
“It is irresponsible to lead people to believe that, in a world that is becoming more complex, the answers are becoming more simple.”
I should have thought that the number of people involved in the slave trade was very small, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of the population.
"How do Bhuddists feel about chocolate bunnies?"
Fine thanks. I don't eat them myself, mind, because they are usually made out of rubbish chocolate (and I won't touch anything from Cadbury's these days for the same reason).
That's something.
Why are the Labour Party unable to make a decision about whether Livingstone lives or not?
At Corbyn.
Next question?
"There is literally no result so poor, no level of support so low, that Jeremy Corbyn would consider resigning as leader."
Not for much longer it would seem. Their silly war against the US domestic oil producers has been a disaster, on top of which a rapidly growing population with a cradle to grave welfare system that soon will not be affordable and Saudi is heading for the shitter. And that is before we factor in that the West is moving rapidly away from an oil based economy.
Thanks for the clarification although I have no recollection of interacting with the poster you have named as I have been careful not to do so ever since you first established that ordinance. I am not challenging you on this point, merely saying I don't recall the incident. If you could PM me with clarification, that would be great.
We shouild be told.
4,705 comments and still counting.
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/04/04/periodic-table-daily-mail-outrage/
As for the Easter thing, sounds like a fake storm in an eggcup to me.
Lindt of Switzerland for me too.
http://www.lindt.co.uk/shop/seasonal-chocolates/easter-eggs
No more EU chocolate from Belgium for me.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
But the marginal rate of tax for someone on £100k is about 60% de to the personal allowance withdrawal, which is lower than for someone on £150k
Or are you starting your own mini-thread?
First become Prime Minister or Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Edit. Having read back I can see how it could. Poor choice of words. Mea culpa.
Wealth is only increased through higher productivity.
This also applies to Education and Health where the Government is right to expect more for less.
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The upper limit on NI was removed years ago. There is no point where one stops paying NI. The rate drops to 2% for earnings over about £43k but it does not drop to zero no matter how much you earn.
And no, the marginal tax rate is not higher on £100k/year than on £1M/year. If you earn £100k you will typically take home around £66k, with 34% of your pay going to the tax man. If you earn £1M/year your take home pay will be around £541k, so you will lose 46% of your pay in tax and NI. If you earn £10M/year you will take home around £5.31M, so around 47% of your pay has gone in tax and NI.
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N.B. The quote button is 'playing up'. Replying to above comment:
These accountants say that in the income range £50k to £100k/y the marginal tax rate including NI could rise as high as 62% (or 66% including the child benefit anomaly):
http://www.marshvision.com/LG-Tax-Marginal-Tax-Rates-2013.asp
I know these are figures for 2013 but I'm not aware of the system being rationalised since. Of course, this firm of accountants claims that paying them for advice might reduce these rates somewhat. But they seem unlikely to drop as low as the marginal rate paid on incomes in the range £1-10M/y.
The top income tax rate is 45%. If NI falls to 2%, the marginal tax rate at those income levels will be 47%. That's the usual definition of 'marginal', i.e., it's the tax rate paid on each extra £ of income.
Investing in education and health can improve worker productivity.
The cuts to social care have surely made the overall system much less productive with record levels of delayed discharges from hospital.