Le Pen 26% Macron 25.5% Fillon 17.5% Hamon 11.5% Mélenchon 11.5% Dupont-Aignan 5% <-- up 1.5% since 14-17 Mar: an impressive advance for someone who wasn't even in last night's TV debate</p>
Indeed, if he continues his rate of progress, he could be President....
.. in 2022!
If Hamon and Mélenchon could see sense, one of them opting out could have things interesting.
I think given his performance in last night's debate, Melenchon could have had a real chance, had Hamon seen sense and given way. They were both so stubborn that neither would stand down, but as Melenchon said.. this is probably his last shot, whereas Hamon's political career is just beginning.
Hamon is the official PS candidate, the PS will not allow him to withdraw leaving the main centre left party with no candidate in the race
They wouldn't like it. Mélenchon could offer him the prime ministership.
That relies on the PS winning most seats in the legislative elections which is very unlikely
Yes, that's a must-read. He makes some very good points.
Pretty much sums up why I've moved from anti Scottish independence to pro Scottish independence. They have a fantastic opportunity to escape the anti-EU headbanging of England and kick start their economy by rejoining the EU. Go for it Scotland. Run while you still can.
Yes, that's a must-read. He makes some very good points.
Pretty much sums up why I've moved from anti Scottish independence to pro Scottish independence. They have a fantastic opportunity to escape the anti-EU headbanging of England and kick start their economy by rejoining the EU. Go for it Scotland. Run while you still can.
More likely wreck their economy given the collapsing oil price and the inevitability of customs duties from their largest export market if they are in the EEA and the rest of the UK outside, which is why almost all polls show Scots would again vote No
I'm a bit confused by the laptop ban because I've often tried to voluntarily put my laptop in hold luggage and they've said I can't for security reasons...
Wasn't that down to Lockerbie? I think the bomb was in a stereo or something.
Surely they subject hold luggage to the same screening procedures as hand luggage?
If you put your laptop in the hold you are leaving it to the mercy of the trainee hammer throwers they call luggage handlers.
Le Pen 26% Macron 25.5% Fillon 17.5% Hamon 11.5% Mélenchon 11.5% Dupont-Aignan 5% <-- up 1.5% since 14-17 Mar: an impressive advance for someone who wasn't even in last night's TV debate</p>
Indeed, if he continues his rate of progress, he could be President....
.. in 2022!
If Hamon and Mélenchon could see sense, one of them opting out could have things interesting.
I think given his performance in last night's debate, Melenchon could have had a real chance, had Hamon seen sense and given way. They were both so stubborn that neither would stand down, but as Melenchon said.. this is probably his last shot, whereas Hamon's political career is just beginning.
Hamon is the official PS candidate, the PS will not allow him to withdraw leaving the main centre left party with no candidate in the race
They wouldn't like it. Mélenchon could offer him the prime ministership.
A Hamon Melenchon tie up is a joke.
They get on about as well as Martin McGuinness and well... other people.
Mr. Monty, given that the UK [less Scotland, of course] single market is worth four to five times more than the EU single market to Scotland, how can you justify the notion that the economic harm of leaving the UK would be fine whereas the economic harm, for Scotland, of leaving the EU would be horrendous?
That's quite a homeopathic approach to economics.
Edited extra bit: incidentally, the Lovely/Evil of politics line was in response to your "anti-EU heading of England".
For once I agree with the Lib Dems, Hodge should have stood down. He has helped to paint Surrey in a very bad light.
Thanks and I will now. Disagree with you: while I was less than enamoured by the prospective 15% CT referendum, I have not the slightest doubt that had David not made the stand he did and making social care such a national political issue and an embarrassment for the government, the chancellor would not have announced anything like the £3 bn package in the budget.
The LibDems were just being LibDems: even the 12 strong Residents Association councillors failed to support their pitiful opportunism.
Yes, that's a must-read. He makes some very good points.
Pretty much sums up why I've moved from anti Scottish independence to pro Scottish independence. They have a fantastic opportunity to escape the anti-EU headbanging of England and kick start their economy by rejoining the EU. Go for it Scotland. Run while you still can.
More likely wreck their economy given the collapsing oil price and the inevitability of customs duties from their largest export market if they are in the EEA and the rest of the UK outside, which is why almost all polls show Scots would again vote No
Scotland's productivity has increased by 10% since 2007. The rUK by 0.1%. Scotland's is a vibrant.
Mr. Monty, given that the UK [less Scotland, of course] single market is worth four to five times more than the EU single market to Scotland, how can you justify the notion that the economic harm of leaving the UK would be fine whereas the economic harm, for Scotland, of leaving the EU would be horrendous?
That's quite a homeopathic approach to economics.
As the article points out. This is a chance for Scotland to rebalance its economy by using Brexit to its advantage and selling more to the EU now that England has trashed itself. And who wants to be chained to UKIP island anyway?
For once I agree with the Lib Dems, Hodge should have stood down. He has helped to paint Surrey in a very bad light.
Thanks and I will now. Disagree with you: while I was less than enamoured by the prospective 15% CT referendum, I have not the slightest doubt that had David not made the stand he did and making social care such a national political issue and an embarrassment for the government, the chancellor would not have announced anything like the £3 bn package in the budget.
The LibDems were just being LibDems: even the 12 strong Residents Association councillors failed to support their pitiful opportunism.
Thank you very much for your reply. Should it really be the job of a County Council to hold to account the government (of the same political colour)? I could understand it if they had been taking a leading role as part of all local authorities, but this unilateral approach seems to have backfired.
Yes, that's a must-read. He makes some very good points.
Pretty much sums up why I've moved from anti Scottish independence to pro Scottish independence. They have a fantastic opportunity to escape the anti-EU headbanging of England and kick start their economy by rejoining the EU. Go for it Scotland. Run while you still can.
More likely wreck their economy given the collapsing oil price and the inevitability of customs duties from their largest export market if they are in the EEA and the rest of the UK outside, which is why almost all polls show Scots would again vote No
Scotland's productivity has increased by 10% since 2007. The rUK by 0.1%. Scotland's is a vibrant.
Scotland has a far higher deficit than the rest of the UK and independence for Scotland would hit it harder than Brexit would the UK, a big majority of Scottish exports go to rUK, only a minority of UK exports go to the EU
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
Mr. Monty, you're aware that the basic principle of democracy is that people can legitimately have differing opinions?
There aren't boxes to tick if you want to be Lovely or Evil.
Nothing to do with good or evil. Brexit is going to destroy the British economy. Scotland has a chance to mitigate that by leaving Britain. Go for it.
It was precisely the fact that less than 50% of UK exports now go to the EU which meant Leave voters could risk Brexit to get border control without destroying the economy, even if it makes for a difficult few years
Can you do that by staying within the EU ? I thought you had to leave the EU to do business with the outside world. But I'm sure Liam Fox will negotiate a better agreement with Japan than the EU !!!!!!!!
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
England is now under the control of a reactionary right wing government hell-bent on hard Brexit. With no end in sight. The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
England is now under the control of a reactionary right wing government hell-bent on hard Brexit. With no end in sight. The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
No, it is in the interests of Left Liberal Remoaners like you to see the UK economy collapse and Scotland leave the UK and Brexit fail so the British electorate come crawling back to the EU with their tails between their legs. Fortunately as virtually all indyref2 polling shows a majority of Scots have more loyalty to the UK even if they did vote Remain and would reject independence again
Mr. Borough, if Fillon does go down in the polls, is there any potential rival to Macron/Le Pen reaching round 2?
Mr. Monty, we'll see how the negotiations go. I would also ask that governments change quite often. Basing whether a country holds together or parts leave on a short term matter such as the current government is deeply unwise.
Mr. Borough, if Fillon does go down in the polls, is there any potential rival to Macron/Le Pen reaching round 2?
Mr. Monty, we'll see how the negotiations go. I would also ask that governments change quite often. Basing whether a country holds together or parts leave on a short term matter such as the current government is deeply unwise.
I think we can be pretty certain it is going to be Macron vs Le Pen now. But after 2016 - who can be sure.
Can you do that by staying within the EU ? I thought you had to leave the EU to do business with the outside world. But I'm sure Liam Fox will negotiate a better agreement with Japan than the EU !!!!!!!!
Given the EU currently has no FTA with China, India, the US, Brazil, Australia, Saudi Arabia and Russia to name but a few its record has hardly been a trailblazing one of global free trade!
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
England is now under the control of a reactionary right wing government hell-bent on hard Brexit. With no end in sight. The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
No, it is in the interests of Left Liberal Remoaners like you to see the UK economy collapse and Scotland leave the UK and Brexit fail so the British electorate come crawling back to the EU with their tails between their legs. Fortunately as virtually all indyref2 polling shows a majority of Scots have more loyalty to the UK even if they did vote Remain and would reject independence again
Complacent nonsense. Watch the Brexit negotiations fail and Scotland vote to leave. The game has fundamentally changed.
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
England is now under the control of a reactionary right wing government hell-bent on hard Brexit. With no end in sight. The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
No, it is in the interests of Left Liberal Remoaners like you to see the UK economy collapse and Scotland leave the UK and Brexit fail so the British electorate come crawling back to the EU with their tails between their legs. Fortunately as virtually all indyref2 polling shows a majority of Scots have more loyalty to the UK even if they did vote Remain and would reject independence again
Complacent nonsense. Watch the Brexit negotiations fail and Scotland vote to leave. The game has fundamentally changed.
No, not complacent, just polling fact, despite your determination to see the Scots leave to 'punish' Brexiteers and Sturgeon's endless bleatings about 'hard Brexit' the Scots are not taking the bait!
Mr. Monty, you say in one post you accept democracy's about differing views, not good and evil, then speak of "anti-EU headbanging England" and "UKIP island".
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
England is now under the control of a reactionary right wing government hell-bent on hard Brexit. With no end in sight. The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
This balls about the new government being more right wing needs to stop.
The Tory leadership post Brexit is more activist and less Posho than in the last 15 years. The new PM is less right wing than the last PM, and less committed to globalist dogma that anyone since Blair......
This is why they are riding high in the polls. Because the people have spoken and they have been heard.
Still awaiting evidence or even pointers to evidence that back up your assertion that people on the streets thought of themselves as European and so broke down, or helped to break down, the sectarian divide.
Fancy folk from overseas saying nice things about the EU doesn't cut it.
Do you not think you're being a bit facetious?
The effect can operate on the subconscious level and it's surely true that the EU was a 'neutral' shared political framework in a way that an Anglo-Irish agreement alone never could be.
I have never heard anyone, outside of PB, social media or on the telly identify themselves as "European". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that most people probably don't think like that. British or one of the home nations, perhaps, if they're asked, but rarely European. Is that any different on the continent?
It depends on the company. Among fellow Midlanders, I'm a Brummie. Among fellow Englishmen, I'm a Midlander. Among fellow Brits, I'm an Englishman. Among fellow Europeans, I'm British. And among fellow human beings, I'm European.
...and in all of those scenarios you're still an idiot.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-39331300
For once I agree with the Lib Dems, Hodge should have stood down. He has helped to paint Surrey in a very bad light.
They have a fantastic opportunity to escape the anti-EU headbanging of England and kick start their economy by rejoining the EU.
Go for it Scotland. Run while you still can.
There aren't boxes to tick if you want to be Lovely or Evil.
George EatonVerified account @georgeeaton 4m4 minutes ago
Labour stalemate: Corbyn won't go because no left successor. MPs won't move because they fear they'd lose again.
They get on about as well as Martin McGuinness and well... other people.
That's quite a homeopathic approach to economics.
Edited extra bit: incidentally, the Lovely/Evil of politics line was in response to your "anti-EU heading of England".
The LibDems were just being LibDems: even the 12 strong Residents Association councillors failed to support their pitiful opportunism.
And who wants to be chained to UKIP island anyway?
Those positions are difficult to reconcile.
As for rebalancing Scotland's economy, there's a risk to the financial sector due to both the lender of last resort problem and that domestic banks will relocate to where 90% of their customers are (England).
It is not rational to argue that leaving a single market with a smaller trading partner is terrible and must be averted at all costs whilst simultaneously arguing leaving a single market with a larger trading partner is wonderful and should be heartily welcomed.
The game has changed. It is now in Scotland's long term interest to leave the union and embrace Europe. The Brexiteers have made their bed. Now they must lie in it.
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This just out: Judges' investigation on Fillon now includes allegations of swindle, forgery and falsification of records - Le Monde
Mr. Monty, we'll see how the negotiations go. I would also ask that governments change quite often. Basing whether a country holds together or parts leave on a short term matter such as the current government is deeply unwise.
The game has fundamentally changed.
NEW THREAD
The Tory leadership post Brexit is more activist and less Posho than in the last 15 years. The new PM is less right wing than the last PM, and less committed to globalist dogma that anyone since Blair......
This is why they are riding high in the polls. Because the people have spoken and they have been heard.