Frustrating that there's no link to tables. I can't find anything on google/orb's website either.
Anyway, if those %'ages are all voters (and not just brexit voters) then the union really is dead.
Goodbye UK. Goodbye Britain.
(sell sterling)
(buy arms shares)
Nope, not when Mori tonight is showing Scots too put immigration control as their number 1 priority
You really shouldn't spin a Scottish sub-sample as a full Scottish poll.
There have been other polls by other pollsters which also show Scots put immigration control first and given we had a Yougov poll this week with a 14% lead for No in any indyref2 it seems to be in line with the trend
And last week we had an Ipsos Mori Scottish poll that showed Independence winning/neck and neck.
Odd you chose to ignore that poll, and the other poll from this week which showed the 14% lead was an outlier.
Apparently Gordon Brown's third way involves giving Scotland the power to sign its own treaties with Europe. How that is compatible with anything short of full independence I do not know.
Indeed. The move in Scotland is, if anything, from YES to Don't Know. The (slight) unionist majority remains as solid as ever.
The unionists in Scotland had everything thrown at them in the indygasm of 2014, they voted NO, nonetheless. Because (as polls show) most of them are at heart Brits, they feel British, and want to stick with Britain. They are also better educated and older, and therefore, one suspects, more set in their ways/convinced of their rightness
The YES vote is much younger, less well educated, less convinced, and more volatile. The fact the SNP has been veering madly between: stay in the EU, leave the EU but rejoin at once, leave the EU but maybe rejoin after another vote, no, leave the EU like England, Wales and NI but join EFTA. Or maybe EEA? All this will have unnerved them.
Hence the understandable move to Don't Know. YES voters haven't got a clue where the SNP now stands vis-a-vis the central question, Europe. They literally Don't Know.
And despite Sturgeon's PR stunt on Monday, none of us are any the wiser to where the SNP stand on vital issues like currency, public finances or EU membership etc in an Independent Scotland.
Interesting to see that both Joanna Cherry and John Nicolson tried to avoid moving away from the grudge and grievance politics surrounding who decides the timing of a second referendum when appearing on QuestionTime and This Week on Thursday night. And both tried to shut down and kick any detailed discussion of the most important issues that would dominate another Indy Ref campaign into the long grass of this Andrew Wilson Commission on economic policy. So after three days of full blown nationalist rhetoric from Sturgeon and her MPs/MSPs towards the UK government on Brexit, the words 'wait and see' and 'watch this space' on the details of their alternative 'plan' shows just what an ill advised and self serving political stunt Monday's announcement was in the run up to the SNP Conference this weekend.
It amazes me that some people assume that the SNP just have to wave the threat of another Indy Ref at Westminster and that some how points to clever political strategy and tactics. Its neither when you have been pressured into making the announcement on a flimsy pretext, and very much against the tide of public opinion because a political window of opportunity is fast closing.
What a contrast in the SNP's demeanor in the run up to the last Indy Ref compared with that of today in the run up to Monday's demand to call another referendum. The SNP's biggest political nightmare would be for the Westminster Government to flex its muscles and deliver a good Brexit deal that strengthens the future economy of the whole UK while they are left begging for a way back into the EU, and with no game changing answers to the issues of a Scottish currency and the public finances that would avoid their own seismic economic hard shock exit from the UK.
Need some advice here. Which is the best mobile company in Spain to get a pay as you go data card for a spare mobile phone. I have a spare mobile so data is more important than minutes. Ideally looking for something where I can make a one off payment in cash. Do not any of the blighters taking monthly payments from my bank card.
Would be grateful for any advice. Thanks in anticipation.
Need some advice here. Which is the best mobile company in Spain to get a pay as you go data card for a spare mobile phone. I have a spare mobile so data is more important than minutes. Ideally looking for something where I can make a one off payment in cash. Do not any of the blighters taking monthly payments from my bank card.
Would be grateful for any advice. Thanks in anticipation.
May want to post that on the new thread in case people don't see it here...
Need some advice here. Which is the best mobile company in Spain to get a pay as you go data card for a spare mobile phone. I have a spare mobile so data is more important than minutes. Ideally looking for something where I can make a one off payment in cash. Do not any of the blighters taking monthly payments from my bank card.
Would be grateful for any advice. Thanks in anticipation.
May want to post that on the new thread in case people don't see it here...
The trouble with your Indy poll table is that it takes a YouGov poll (excluding 16-17 year olds) as last rather than the Survation poll (including 16-17 year olds) which was released two hours afterwords! Put them the other way round and you get a different graphical impression.
Truth is anyone who relies on one poll on this site to make a point is posting nonsense. Take the average of the last 20 (at 47 per cent) or something serious like the social attitude survey.
Comments
Here all week etc.
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1383355-gordon-brown-proposes-federal-third-option-for-scotland/
I didn't expect people to take me that literally...
Don't open the box Darling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkUSxPwdt8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xG5hSOMGn0
Interesting to see that both Joanna Cherry and John Nicolson tried to avoid moving away from the grudge and grievance politics surrounding who decides the timing of a second referendum when appearing on QuestionTime and This Week on Thursday night. And both tried to shut down and kick any detailed discussion of the most important issues that would dominate another Indy Ref campaign into the long grass of this Andrew Wilson Commission on economic policy. So after three days of full blown nationalist rhetoric from Sturgeon and her MPs/MSPs towards the UK government on Brexit, the words 'wait and see' and 'watch this space' on the details of their alternative 'plan' shows just what an ill advised and self serving political stunt Monday's announcement was in the run up to the SNP Conference this weekend.
It amazes me that some people assume that the SNP just have to wave the threat of another Indy Ref at Westminster and that some how points to clever political strategy and tactics. Its neither when you have been pressured into making the announcement on a flimsy pretext, and very much against the tide of public opinion because a political window of opportunity is fast closing.
What a contrast in the SNP's demeanor in the run up to the last Indy Ref compared with that of today in the run up to Monday's demand to call another referendum. The SNP's biggest political nightmare would be for the Westminster Government to flex its muscles and deliver a good Brexit deal that strengthens the future economy of the whole UK while they are left begging for a way back into the EU, and with no game changing answers to the issues of a Scottish currency and the public finances that would avoid their own seismic economic hard shock exit from the UK.
Would be grateful for any advice. Thanks in anticipation.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/17/no-one-is-talking-about-it-has-sturgeon-misjudged-mood-for-independence
The trouble with your Indy poll table is that it takes a YouGov poll (excluding 16-17 year olds) as last rather than the Survation poll (including 16-17 year olds) which was released two hours afterwords! Put them the other way round and you get a different graphical impression.
Truth is anyone who relies on one poll on this site to make a point is posting nonsense. Take the average of the last 20 (at 47 per cent) or something serious like the social attitude survey.
Catching up on your posts I would like to tell you to stick to the sex and give up the politics - but I can't!
I don't suppose giving up both is an option?