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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,380
    The Flynn story (which is leading the news in some countries (though may have suffered from Trump-outrage fatigue in Britain) is interesting, not least as it appears that the FBI have deliberately briefed against Flynn (after tapping his call to the ambassador, which in Britain at least would I believe require a warrant - in the US too?). Perhaps having a feud with your own intelligence agency has its drawbacks.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/11/internet-scams-dating-romance-money
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    JackW said:

    GeoffM said:

    JackW said:

    Sub sample Klaxon.

    Labour on 10% in Scotland.

    Not so much a klaxon than as a klu klux klaxon - men in white suits will take you away if you believe it.
    I've always wanted to join the KKK, so I can find out which detergent they use that gets their clothes so brilliantly white.

    Say what you like about the KKK but the one thing you can't say is that they aren't immaculately dressed.
    Mrs M says that she adds a glass of white wine vinegar along with the washing powder when she's doing mine.
    How many KKK suits do you have ? .... :smile:
    One way to avoid racial discrimination - put one of those on ...
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Great rugby match today, the icing on the cake being making a healthy profit betting in play on England when they were 5-6 points down. They find a way to win and there's still quite a bit of value around on them when behind but within a score.
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    mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    Jobabob said:

    Great rugby match today, the icing on the cake being making a healthy profit betting in play on England when they were 5-6 points down. They find a way to win and there's still quite a bit of value around on them when behind but within a score.

    Outstanding match. Always bet on Wales throwing it away. Their improvement being that the chucking was in the last 10, now it's the last 5 ....
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Does anyone else follow Aftertime Ansell on twitter? Brilliant collection of tweets demonstrating expert betting advice & knowledge made when the event has finished
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,071
    I think Leo's logic is a little flawed here. Comparing approval ratings when someone left their job is not the same as appraising the whole of their premirship. Thatcher was very unpopular when she left office but I'm sure many of those people (AT THE TIME) nonetheless believed she had been a good PM overall if you take into account the whole 11 years. Listening to the podcast I couldn't help sense there was a certain scorn from Keiran towards Labour voters who aren't grateful for the Blair-Brown governments. Betrayal can run both ways and whilst we're all alert to how people in Labour areas feel let down by their elites, the elites are also, I would suggested, rather annoyed at the voters who have betrayed them nd not acknowledged all Labour has done fo them.
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    Charles said:

    malcolmg said:

    A complete debunking of Carlotta's much trumpeted Telegraph fake news the other day.
    Independent Scotland would be fast-tracked into EU says top Brussels official
    Jacqueline Minor says Scotland would be "starting from a point different from other applicant countries" because it had already incorporated European laws.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independent-scotland-would-fast-tracked-9798523

    I notice Andra Neil had his arse handed him on a plate this afternoon. Apparently he thinks Bosnia & Herzegovina are two countries.

    https://twitter.com/Kenny__Stewart/status/830480344814071808
    To be fair at one point they were separate and the Turks (I think) combined them for administrative convenience. I think they are still pretty distinct with one being Catholic and one Muslim.
    The present admistrative division is between Serbs and Croats/Muslims.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,071
    Here's Tony Blair addressing Progress after the 2015 election. Talk about a rapturous reception!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9qRtsasDKI

    This is pre-Chilcot findings of course but post-financial crisis/Leveson/Tony Blair Associates.
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    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,852

    malcolmg said:

    A complete debunking of Carlotta's much trumpeted Telegraph fake news the other day.
    Independent Scotland would be fast-tracked into EU says top Brussels official
    Jacqueline Minor says Scotland would be "starting from a point different from other applicant countries" because it had already incorporated European laws.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independent-scotland-would-fast-tracked-9798523

    I notice Andra Neil had his arse handed him on a plate this afternoon. Apparently he thinks Bosnia & Herzegovina are two countries.
    The unionists seem absolutely desperate for the EU to reject Scotland. In a crowded field it's possibly the nuttiest political position in the UK at the moment.
    FWIW, I expect the EU to offer transition arrangements to Scotland if it votes for independence and to remain in the EU. Scotland would still have to apply for membership as a separate country, but it wouldn't have to create new arrangements only to go back to where it was when it was still part of the UK and the EU.

    But - big but - this would be difficult to achieve without the cooperation of the remnant UK government: in agreeing an independence referendum before the UK leaves the EU and in obstructing the transition arrangements should the referendum carry. Theresa May would be playing with fire if she goes down that route.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,013

    JackW said:

    Sub sample Klaxon.

    Labour on 10% in Scotland.

    Not so much a klaxon than as a klu klux klaxon - men in white suits will take you away if you believe it.
    I've always wanted to join the KKK, so I can find out which detergent they use that gets their clothes so brilliantly white.

    Say what you like about the KKK but the one thing you can't say is that they aren't immaculately dressed.
    Maybe they bleach them in urine.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    edited February 2017
    Some serious trolling from Orban

    "We shall let in true refugees”, Mr Orban told a cheering audience: “Germans, Dutch, French and Italians, terrified politicians and journalists who here in Hungary want to find the Europe they have lost in their homelands.”

    Voice of Europe
    Orban: Hungary Will Welcome 'European Refugees' Fleeing Multicultural West. https://t.co/RjS22P9pFi https://t.co/AqWjD3kxz2
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    ydoethur said:



    Reading between the lines, Snell's a prize turkey and Labour are in real trouble.

    I would face a really difficult choice if I lived in Stoke. Do I vote for a party led by a man who hangs out with serial killers and Holocaust deniers, or for a party led by a man who is (a) a candidate and (b) is a serial liar who doesn't even seem to know for sure where he lives?

    As Jeremy Corbyn might also arguably fit part (b) of the latter criteria too I suppose it could be argued Nuttall is the lesser of two evils. However, the real value in this by-election would seem to be for turnout to be below 10%.That not being available, UKIP to poll between 30-40% (which would surely make it close) looks like value even at 5/4 with Ladbrokes.
    On the ComRes poll, UKIP dropping below 20% looks value at 8/1, They normally poll high for the kippers. Nicks canvassing report is interesting. Paul Nuttall and 3 others is not much of a ground game, though he does seem to believe there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Scott_P said:
    The story below is more interesting. Frit Trump to swap London for NEC, Birmingham. Roll up for your tickets.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    @williamglenn

    It is indeed bizarre positioning. Were you around yesterday when we were assured that border patrols would be required on the Tweed but not on the Foyle? Odd, you might think. Apparently not. The Leaver-'unionists' were instead proposing a hard internal border between NI and the rest of the UK.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Corbyn can't quit unless he can persuade the PLP to guarantee a leftie the nominations. They might agree to that with Rebecca, but it's by no means guaranteed she'd win the subsequent election. In any case I was told recently that it is nonsense about her being groomed.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    Gibraltar much?
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:
    The story below is more interesting. Frit Trump to swap London for NEC, Birmingham. Roll up for your tickets.
    Not sure that Brum would be any more friendly to #twitler than the Smoke.
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    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:
    The story below is more interesting. Frit Trump to swap London for NEC, Birmingham. Roll up for your tickets.
    Not sure that Brum would be any more friendly to #twitler than the Smoke.
    Brum voted narrowly for Brexit :innocent:
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,623
    edited February 2017
    Charles said:

    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    Gibraltar much?
    Geoff cast all of his 823 votes for LEAVE!
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    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    Don't let your impotence in the matter get on top of you.
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    NEW THREAD

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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    edited February 2017
    A proper Comres poll at last! From Mark Senior's observations it sounds a bit suspect - as ever. Have not had time to delve into the details yet but have noticed the Scotland crossbreak which looks very odd. On the basis of past vote, it seems to be saying that in 2015 Scotland voted 19% Con. and 12% Lab. Those figures ignore Non Voters , but the actual figures were Con 14% Lab 24%. One can only hope that the rest of the sample is more meaningful than that crossbreak.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Charles said:

    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    GeoffM said:

    scotslass said:

    I know that it is just a sub sample etc etc but the ComRes cross break for Scotland is

    SNP 56, TORY 22, LAB 10, LIB 7,UKIP4, GREEN 2

    Put this together with Indy running at 49 per cent and surely Ms Sturgeon's finger is poised over the referendum button?

    Those of us hoping that the whole miserable subsidised lot of you would just fvck off can only hope.
    Gibraltar much?
    @Charles I'm trolling - don't interrupt please!
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