Understand the mentality of your average new Labour Party members. They worship Corbyn. They hate the Tories the Media the BBC the Labour Party traitors and anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. They aren't going to vote for someone mainstream and electable like Keir. Or that traitorous witch Nandy for that matter.
Its obviously going to be Diane Abbott as next leader. Right on, a woman and black. Ticks every box.
Remainers seem to be especially worried about Russia. The old enemy?
Are Remainers just fond of living in the stable and predictable past?
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are becoming stronger. I also think that they risk major blowback, by encouraging such instability in the world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having said that, it's trendy right now to talk down Putin as a mere tactician. But Russia seems to be further ahead in its aims than any other world power at the moment, save China.
Edit: and Russia would be delighted if the UK were to break up. We have been a thorn in their side, in the Security Council, and in the European Defence context, for a long time. Once again then, I can't figure out why some Brexiters - supposedly patriots - seem very warm to Putin.
In foreign policy terms Russian is now arguably ahead of China, it has closer ties to the new US president and its influence spreads across the Middle East and to populist movements across Europe. Putin is also making a visit to Japan shortly as the Japanese grow increasingly weary of China
On the subject of foreign policy confusion (which side in Syria are we bombing at present?), I was rather taken back in time by the DEC appeal for Yemen.
Britain arming and helping the Saudis plan bombing of the same people we are collecting famine relief for would be absurd were it not so revolting. It puts me in mind of when we helped Nigeria starve Biafra into submission, while pictures of starving Biafrans were all over the screens. That was probably the most shameful act of the first Wilson government, but now May is repeating it:
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having said that, it's trendy right now to talk down Putin as a mere tactician. But Russia seems to be further ahead in its aims than any other world power at the moment, save China.
Edit: and Russia would be delighted if the UK were to break up. We have been a thorn in their side, in the Security Council, and in the European Defence context, for a long time. Once again then, I can't figure out why some Brexiters - supposedly patriots - seem very warm to Putin.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
And yet despite a level of exports about the same size as Belgium's (was that one of Robert's facts?), Putin has kept his grip on power and Russia keeps us all guessing - in the Middle East, in the Ukraine, and now in the US.
Russia is strategically successful because of what it achieves *despite* it's economic weakness.
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having said that, it's trendy right now to talk down Putin as a mere tactician. But Russia seems to be further ahead in its aims than any other world power at the moment, save China.
Edit: and Russia would be delighted if the UK were to break up. We have been a thorn in their side, in the Security Council, and in the European Defence context, for a long time. Once again then, I can't figure out why some Brexiters - supposedly patriots - seem very warm to Putin.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
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Back to Christmas in ridiculous places. Currently in Karachi. Hotel has installed the Christmas tree, the snowy Christmas village with steam train, and flying Santa in a sled pulled by reindeer some 10' above the village. And three musicians singing religious carols to a drum machine.
Understand the mentality of your average new Labour Party members. They worship Corbyn. They hate the Tories the Media the BBC the Labour Party traitors and anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. They aren't going to vote for someone mainstream and electable like Keir. Or that traitorous witch Nandy for that matter.
Its obviously going to be Diane Abbott as next leader. Right on, a woman and black. Ticks every box.
They sound so much like the trump cult of the left.
Remainers seem to be especially worried about Russia. The old enemy?
Are Remainers just fond of living in the stable and predictable past?
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade war between China and US, and to gain influence in the Middle East by bringing down pro Saudi organisations. I think the view from Moscow is that weakening others is easier than becoming stronger. I also think that they risk major blowback, by encouraging such instability in the world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
'America First' I believe once The Orange One takes over in January
It has the advantage of honesty.
Only with a strange definition of honesty! A wall that isn't a wall, draining the swamp by putting million dollar donors into his cabinet, putting Goldman Sachs in charge of Commerce, opposing Middle East intervention by appointing a General known as Mad Dog in charge of the Military, scrapping Obamacare by keeping all the key bits etc etc.
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Putin is #1 in willingness to project power. In no other way is Russia anywhere near number 1 on any international parameter.
George Osborne has blamed a "vacuum from America and Britain" for allowing the Aleppo situation to develop. Unusual to see a politician including themselves in the blame for something.
Only with a strange definition of honesty! A wall that isn't a wall, draining the swamp by putting million dollar donors into his cabinet, putting Goldman Sachs in charge of Commerce, opposing Middle East intervention by appointing a General known as Mad Dog in charge of the Military, scrapping Obamacare by keeping all the key bits etc etc.
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
***
Has SeanT gone full Trump yet? He seems to be verging on it, but don't think he's fully come out of the closet.
One of the most disappointing thing about Brexit is watching many of the Brexiteers cast aside their high minded principles about democracy, free trade, and patriotism in favour of Trumpery.
It's all just power worship of the most primitive kind.
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Putin is #1 in willingness to project power. In no other way is Russia anywhere near number 1 on any international parameter.
Being willing to project power and effectively influence global affairs is the key determinant of foreign policy success, you can have all the weaponry and soldiers and diplomats you want but they are of little use if you let other nations dictate world affairs
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering IS, I think IS had no part in the battle for Alleppo, though the anti Assad forces there are are pretty Islamist. The pictures from West Alleppo show a functioning modern city, as do those from Damascas etc. The bombed out ruins inhabited by the Black niqabs is the anti government bit.
I don't think Russia has a grand strategy at present, just a number of tactical moves to break up tbe UK, the EU, the NAFTA, to cause a trade world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having said that, it's trendy right now to talk down Putin as a mere tactician. But Russia seems to be further ahead in its aims than any other world power at the moment, save China.
Edit: and Russia would be delighted if the UK were to break up. We have been a thorn in their side, in the Security Council, and in the European Defence context, for a long time. Once again then, I can't figure out why some Brexiters - supposedly patriots - seem very warm to Putin.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
Quite. Given their resources, the fact that they're not in the first division is rather demonstrative...
I don't know what Ben Bradshaw's evidence is, but I would be surprised if Russia's propaganda machine was not active, both in Brexit and in Sindy.
Russia wants to see the destabilisation, if not the breakup, of the UK, of the EU, and of NATO.
By what mechanism Russia acts, who knows. The list of Putin fans is long and seems to be growing: Trump, Farage, Corbyn. But are they sympathisers, stooges or worse? And I recall recently seeing that Pravda was planning to open operations in Scotland of all places. Not difficult to reason why.
A friend with contacts in the intelligence service tells me that Aaron Banks may have some interesting connections...
I'm sure you're right in what you say about what Russia would like, but you're being startlingly naive if you think that isn't exactly what the West (by which I mean the US and its hangers on) wants for Russia - and has been trying just as hard to achieve. Indeed the plan to break Russia up is all laid out in a white paper by Zbigniew Brzezinski. And the recommendations have so far been followed to the letter. http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
Not sure why you should expect Russia *not* to want us broken up when we want to break their country up?
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Putin is #1 in willingness to project power. In no other way is Russia anywhere near number 1 on any international parameter.
Being willing to project power and effectively influence global affairs is the key determinant of foreign policy success, you can have all the weaponry and soldiers and diplomats you want but they are of little use if you let other nations dictate world affairs
If she is sequestrated she will not be eligible to stand. But I agree the SNP will hold the seat.
Really? People who have declared bankruptcy in the past are ineligible to stand in a future election ?
If that is true it must be a relic from the old pre-19th century election laws when it was limited to property owners.
That is my understanding yes. Bankrupts are not eligible to stand. But you are now normally discharged from sequestration after 12 months so much would depend on the timing.
Only with a strange definition of honesty! A wall that isn't a wall, draining the swamp by putting million dollar donors into his cabinet, putting Goldman Sachs in charge of Commerce, opposing Middle East intervention by appointing a General known as Mad Dog in charge of the Military, scrapping Obamacare by keeping all the key bits etc etc.
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
***
Has SeanT gone full Trump yet? He seems to be verging on it, but don't think he's fully come out of the closet.
One of the most disappointing thing about Brexit is watching many of the Brexiteers cast aside their high minded principles about democracy, free trade, and patriotism in favour of Trumpery.
It's all just power worship of the most primitive kind.
I am not aware that any Brexiteers on pb have gone full Trump.
The most persistent and irritating advocate for Trump on pb is also the most persistent and irritating advocate for Remain.
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Putin is #1 in willingness to project power. In no other way is Russia anywhere near number 1 on any international parameter.
Being willing to project power and effectively influence global affairs is the key determinant of foreign policy success, you can have all the weaponry and soldiers and diplomats you want but they are of little use if you let other nations dictate world affairs
Similarly, some Brexiters seems strangely complacent about the attempted interference by Russia in the political system of the USA. As reported by the CIA. I recall Yokel? on here just before the US election warning that a whole load was about to come out about Trump and Russia. Presume he was referring to the delayed CIA report.
There's not much to like about Putin's Russia. Murdering journalists and downing passenger jets for starters. What is it exactly about Putin that some Brexiters find so attractive?
I like the fact Putin is slaughtering ISIS, to be honest. Also, he's realised that supporting Assad makes more sense in the face of Islamism.
It's a pity he's a ruthless autocrat, but then the President of the USA is happy to vapourise perceived enemies without trial in foreign countries.
"Why can't we just drone the guy?" - Hillary Clinton.
Imagine if Putin had been caught saying that.
Not sure that Russia is slaughtering world.
Talk me through America's "grand strategy" then. Other than a cack-handed attempt to further America's interests, which has generally gone wrong in the Middle East?
Um....
Think you've missed the point. It's not necessary to rate US strategy to decry Russia's poor execution of one.
Having.
The basket-case of a Russian economy, as Robert often reminds us, suggests entirely otherwise.
Russia is now the 10th to 12th largest economy and set to enter the top 10 by 2030, it is not exactly a basket-case
I thought they were hugely dependent on oil/gas revenue?
They are but that is not about to run out imminently, in foreign policy terms after the fall of Aleppo and the election of Trump Russia is now number 1 in all but name
Putin is #1 in willingness to project power. In no other way is Russia anywhere near number 1 on any international parameter.
Being willing to project power and effectively influence global affairs is the key determinant of foreign policy success, you can have all the weaponry and soldiers and diplomats you want but they are of little use if you let other nations dictate world affairs
LOL. You're schooling me on diplomacy ...
Nearly as amusing when another PBer tried to school you on Iraq's WMDs.
If she is sequestrated she will not be eligible to stand. But I agree the SNP will hold the seat.
Really? People who have declared bankruptcy in the past are ineligible to stand in a future election ?
If that is true it must be a relic from the old pre-19th century election laws when it was limited to property owners.
That is my understanding yes. Bankrupts are not eligible to stand. But you are now normally discharged from sequestration after 12 months so much would depend on the timing.
I'd have thought pure shame would prevent you running again as an MP. Then again most bankrupts do seem to be particularly shameless people.
I don't know what Ben Bradshaw's evidence is, but I would be surprised if Russia's propaganda machine was not active, both in Brexit and in Sindy.
Russia wants to see the destabilisation, if not the breakup, of the UK, of the EU, and of NATO.
By what mechanism Russia acts, who knows. The list of Putin fans is long and seems to be growing: Trump, Farage, Corbyn. But are they sympathisers, stooges or worse? And I recall recently seeing that Pravda was planning to open operations in Scotland of all places. Not difficult to reason why.
A friend with contacts in the intelligence service tells me that Aaron Banks may have some interesting connections...
I'm sure you're right in what you say about what Russia would like, but you're being startlingly naive if you think that isn't exactly what the West (by which I mean the US and its hangers on) wants for Russia - and has been trying just as hard to achieve. Indeed the plan to break Russia up is all laid out in a white paper by Zbigniew Brzezinski. And the recommendations have so far been followed to the letter. http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
Not sure why you should expect Russia *not* to want us broken up when we want to break their country up?
Is Ukraine "their country"? or the Baltics? or Moldova or Georgia? or the 5 'stans?
Unless tbe Brzezinski plan goes back a Century, I cannot see how it plays apart.
If Russia had wanted filial relations with the other successor states to the USSR then perhaps a century of famine, deportations, gulags and executions was not such a good idea.
Only with a strange definition of honesty! A wall that isn't a wall, draining the swamp by putting million dollar donors into his cabinet, putting Goldman Sachs in charge of Commerce, opposing Middle East intervention by appointing a General known as Mad Dog in charge of the Military, scrapping Obamacare by keeping all the key bits etc etc.
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
***
Has SeanT gone full Trump yet? He seems to be verging on it, but don't think he's fully come out of the closet.
One of the most disappointing thing about Brexit is watching many of the Brexiteers cast aside their high minded principles about democracy, free trade, and patriotism in favour of Trumpery.
It's all just power worship of the most primitive kind.
How clever of you to have put the lid on Trump before he's taken power, and sussed out Brexit before it's even happened.
Remainers seem to be especially worried about Russia. The old enemy?
Are Remainers just fond of living in the stable and predictable past?
No. Russia treats its citizens badly (up to and including murdering those it finds inconvenient), has a corrupt civil service, a biddable judiciary, murders journalists, jails those who object or make profit outside its nomenklatura, is routinely cruel, funds insurgents in neighbouring countries, annexes exclaves whenever it can, runs propaganda bureaux outside its borders, indulges in recreational gaybashing and blows up airliners.
Remainers seem to be especially worried about Russia. The old enemy?
Are Remainers just fond of living in the stable and predictable past?
No. Russia treats its citizens badly (up to and including murdering those it finds inconvenient), has a corrupt civil service, a biddable judiciary, murders journalists, jails those who object or make profit outside its nomenklatura, is routinely cruel, funds insurgents in neighbouring countries, annexes exclaves whenever it can, runs propaganda bureaux outside its borders, indulges in recreational gaybashing and blows up airliners.
The America of Hillary's "can't we just drone this guy". The America that brought us the festival of democracy that is the modern Middle East - courtesy of Shock and Awe. The America that invades whomsoever it likes. The only country to drop the H bomb.
I was answering the question I was asked, which was "Remainers seem to be especially worried about Russia. The old enemy?", hence my lengthy list of the Russian Federation's many and grevious sins.
If he had asked me "Rate all the countries of the world, compare them and list them in descending order of malevolence", then I would have dealt with the USA also
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Understand the mentality of your average new Labour Party members. They worship Corbyn. They hate the Tories the Media the BBC the Labour Party traitors and anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. They aren't going to vote for someone mainstream and electable like Keir. Or that traitorous witch Nandy for that matter.
Its obviously going to be Diane Abbott as next leader. Right on, a woman and black. Ticks every box.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/13/spain-plans-replace-nazi-time-zone-gmt/
Britain arming and helping the Saudis plan bombing of the same people we are collecting famine relief for would be absurd were it not so revolting. It puts me in mind of when we helped Nigeria starve Biafra into submission, while pictures of starving Biafrans were all over the screens. That was probably the most shameful act of the first Wilson government, but now May is repeating it:
http://allafrica.com/stories/201507151338.html
Perhaps stopping arms shipments to the Saiudis would help the poor suffering Yemenis more than a bit of charity.?
Russia is strategically successful because of what it achieves *despite* it's economic weakness.
How did hackers change the votes cast by humans on paper ballots counted by other humans ?
Some Remainers (Ben Bradshaw) have entered the twilight zone, this is more flimsy than a Glenn Beck-Soros Conspiracy Theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vinXBY9-I9I
https://twitter.com/polhomeeditor/status/808793623701688320
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
In any case she would win any by-election.
Only with a strange definition of honesty! A wall that isn't a wall, draining the swamp by putting million dollar donors into his cabinet, putting Goldman Sachs in charge of Commerce, opposing Middle East intervention by appointing a General known as Mad Dog in charge of the Military, scrapping Obamacare by keeping all the key bits etc etc.
When will the Trumpists realise the Emperor has no clothes? at the moment they are still admiring the exquisite finess of the embroidery!
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Has SeanT gone full Trump yet?
He seems to be verging on it, but don't think he's fully come out of the closet.
One of the most disappointing thing about Brexit is watching many of the Brexiteers cast aside their high minded principles about democracy, free trade, and patriotism in favour of Trumpery.
It's all just power worship of the most primitive kind.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/taxman-targets-assets-rising-snp-9452155
People who have declared bankruptcy in the past are ineligible to stand in a future election ?
If that is true it must be a relic from the old pre-19th century election laws when it was limited to property owners.
Not sure why you should expect Russia *not* to want us broken up when we want to break their country up?
The most persistent and irritating advocate for Trump on pb is also the most persistent and irritating advocate for Remain.
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Unless tbe Brzezinski plan goes back a Century, I cannot see how it plays apart.
If Russia had wanted filial relations with the other successor states to the USSR then perhaps a century of famine, deportations, gulags and executions was not such a good idea.
God knows why she was selected, though.
Someone who is on the third political party in a few years is surely -- in Malc’s words -- a trougher.
If he had asked me "Rate all the countries of the world, compare them and list them in descending order of malevolence", then I would have dealt with the USA also
'Perhaps stopping arms shipments to the Saiudis would help the poor suffering Yemenis more than a bit of charity.?'
What's the point other countries would supply instead..