Was the main reason why the Treasury's forecast of the effects of a Leave vote have already proved to be so wrong, due to the fact that unlike their budget forecasts their referendum forecasts were not made by the OBR? Whereas the OBR approved forecast for Q3 made at the start of 2016, proved to be more accurate than the later Treasury Leave vote forecast. The OBR may prove to be the wisest decision Osborne ever made.
"In his foreword to the Treasury’s analysis of the short-term effects of a Leave vote – released a month before the referendum – Osborne wrote: “a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession”. There’s no doubt whatsoever that he meant that the economy would enter negative growth immediately after the vote – Table 2.C in the same report predicts growth for this quarter, Q3 2016, of between -0.1 and -1 per cent."
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away.
Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump. And for that reason, she'll win.
Didn't you vote Remain? I've no idea who'll win. I just think it's a whole lot closer than many liberal PBers hope it is.
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
Aww - really? I'm a waycist? Shucks. I'm shamed and will now become a Liberal sheep.
Seriously? This has to be one of your daftest posts. Evah.
I'm sure Tyson will pile on along with his little HillBullies gang to cast me as some Untouchable.
For a smart guy, you're being so dumb.
EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your consistent support for xenophobic, racist candidates and parties across the world, it's pretty clear they appeal to you. What puzzles me is why you can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me.
I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me.
And Snopes have been caught out too - I don't believe anyone claiming to fact-check anything from either side. It's become far too partisan. I've watched video with obvious green screening several times and no wide angle. It satisfied me.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
Aww - DYOR is the perennial, don't try to blame my personal opinion of Hillary appearances for it.
The election is a choice between two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away.
Against practically any other GOP candidate from history, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump. And for that reason, she'll win.
Didn't you vote Remain? I've no idea who'll win. I just think it's a whole lot closer than many liberal PBers hope it is.
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
Aww - really? I'm a waycist? Shucks. I'm shamed and will now become a Liberal sheep.
Seriously? This has to be one of your daftest posts. Evah.
I'm sure Tyson will pile on along with his little HillBullies gang to cast me as some Untouchable.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away.
Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump. And for that reason, she'll win.
Didn't you vote Remain? I've no idea who'll win. I just think it's a whole lot closer than many liberal PBers hope it is.
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
Aww - really? I'm a waycist? Shucks. I'm shamed and will now become a Liberal sheep.
Seriously? This has to be one of your daftest posts. Evah.
I'm sure Tyson will pile on along with his little HillBullies gang to cast me as some Untouchable.
For a smart guy, you're being so dumb.
EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me.
I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me.
I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
There was a most amusing video spat between Katie Hopkins and a CNN Lady on Twitter earlier - it all got very heated and Katie replied to one patronising statement with 'look honey' - and the CNN lady went bonkers.
She was desperate to call Hopkins a sexist, but she was the wrong gender - it was hilarious. Neither came out of it well - but it was fun viewing.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
Not a smear. An evidence-based opinion.
Has Plato said she is backing Trump? All I have read (as a part time observer) is that she posts links to views contrary to the predicted Clinton surge. Most others post pro-Clinton polls and stories. Since Clinton has very offensive views (deplorables) and uses terms such as n*ggers, presmably you accuse proClinton posts as racist?
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
Not a smear. An evidence-based opinion.
Seriously, you're making an arse of yourself. Just stop - unless you want to continue making my sides ache.
This is the problem with localized government: The voters have a hard time keeping track of who's responsible for what, and tend to assume that whoever's in charge of the top level is in charge of the whole thing.
My biggest problem with Hillary polling leads is the DNC + samples. She's supposedly doing better than Obama. It's just not credible. She's terrible rally turnout numbers, green screen fake voter stuff on TV and the rest. He was everywhere and mobbed.
Kaine rallies are akin to Owen Something - there's no passion here. My disbelief metre is red-lining.
Perhaps a Hillary fan can help me with her policy stance on anything. Trump has a boat load as I posted earlier.
Can you post a link to this green screen stuff?
Because it has been repudiated as nonsense in the past
And Snopes have been caught out too - I don't believe anyone claiming to fact-check anything from either side. It's become far too partisan. I've watched video with obvious green screening several times and no wide angle. It satisfied me.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
Aww - DYOR is the perennial, don't try to blame my personal opinion of Hillary appearances for it.
The election is a choice between two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away.
Against practically any other GOP candidate from history, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump. And for that reason, she'll win.
Didn't you vote Remain? I've no idea who'll win. I just think it's a whole lot closer than many liberal PBers hope it is.
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away. Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump...
Didn't you vote Remain?....
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
Aww - really? I'm a waycist? Shucks. I'm shamed and will now become a Liberal sheep. Seriously? This has to be one of your daftest posts. Evah. .... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me. I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me. I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
There was a most amusing video spat between Katie Hopkins and a CNN Lady on Twitter earlier - it all got very heated and Katie replied to one patronising statement with 'look honey' - and the CNN lady went bonkers. She was desperate to call Hopkins a sexist, but she was the wrong gender - it was hilarious. Neither came out of it well - but it was fun viewing. The whole thing has lost the plot.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away. Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump...
Didn't you vote Remain?....
.... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me. I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me. I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
I honestly think it's a weird mid-life crisis thing. It's beyond rationale and guys don't have a menopause.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
Was the main reason why the Treasury's forecast of the effects of a Leave vote have already proved to be so wrong, due to the fact that unlike their budget forecasts their referendum forecasts were not made by the OBR? Whereas the OBR approved forecast for Q3 made at the start of 2016, proved to be more accurate than the later Treasury Leave vote forecast. The OBR may prove to be the wisest decision Osborne ever made.
"In his foreword to the Treasury’s analysis of the short-term effects of a Leave vote – released a month before the referendum – Osborne wrote: “a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession”. There’s no doubt whatsoever that he meant that the economy would enter negative growth immediately after the vote – Table 2.C in the same report predicts growth for this quarter, Q3 2016, of between -0.1 and -1 per cent."
The growth aspect of the " economic shock " prediction has proved wrong because consumers have kept spending in spectacular fashion. The You Gov numbers down thread suggest why. We were just completely wrong about the immeadiate aspect of that. However the £ Devaluation is already greater than severe shock forecast. And us paying Nissan to stay is a sign of economic shock. We'll see what the inflationary wave that's coming does to consumer spending.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
Not a smear. An evidence-based opinion.
Seriously, you're making an arse of yourself. Just stop - unless you want to continue making my sides ache. You'll be calling me a homophobe next.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
There was a most amusing video spat between Katie Hopkins and a CNN Lady on Twitter earlier - it all got very heated and Katie replied to one patronising statement with 'look honey' - and the CNN lady went bonkers. She was desperate to call Hopkins a sexist, but she was the wrong gender - it was hilarious. Neither came out of it well - but it was fun viewing. The whole thing has lost the plot.
76.4% of people who deny they are racists are in fact racists - FACT!
Actually, I'd guess if you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time denying you're something, there probably is an above average chance that you are that thing.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away....
Didn't you vote Remain?....
.... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. ...
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me. I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me. I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
I honestly think it's a weird mid-life crisis thing. It's beyond rationale and guys don't have a menopause.
Just those stages. 1. Lose the GE. 2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice) 3. Lose the referendum It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
This is the problem with localized government: The voters have a hard time keeping track of who's responsible for what, and tend to assume that whoever's in charge of the top level is in charge of the whole thing.
Or in this case, the presidential candidate has a hard time doing that.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away. Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump...
Didn't you vote Remain?....
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
Aww - really? I'm a waycist? Shucks. I'm shamed and will now become a Liberal sheep. Seriously? This has to be one of your daftest posts. Evah. .... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me. I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me. I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
I am not sure we want to revisit Plato's reactions to Jo Cox's murder.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
Not a smear. An evidence-based opinion.
Seriously, you're making an arse of yourself. Just stop - unless you want to continue making my sides ache.
76.4% of people who deny they are racists are in fact racists - FACT!
Actually, I'd guess if you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time denying you're something, there probably is an above average chance that you are that thing.
Or perhaps not so much denying it, as implying that anyone who complains about racism is being babyish. A sign that the users of that term have a lot of growing up to do themselves.
76.4% of people who deny they are racists are in fact racists - FACT!
Actually, I'd guess if you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time denying you're something, there probably is an above average chance that you are that thing.
Nats like you are constantly accused of being whiny, boring, xenophobic, grievance-mongering titwanks, so clearly you are exactly that.
Can you score me some Benzos ? After today I want to develop a habit. *Weeps*
I used my lying eyes - as have others. Golly. Experts and Cameron chums were wrong. How will I ever cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away....
Didn't you vote Remain?....
.... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. ...
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
You're having a bad day. Really, just stop digging. It says a great deal more about you, than me. I'm drinking a beer and scratching my head, whilst laughing.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
No, you're having an existential hissy fit and aiming it at me. I'm most amused - do carry on.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
In the Batley & Spen by election there were some very unpleasant parties standing - I do not recall Plato backing one of them. So your claim is false and you should withdraw it if a gentleman?
I honestly think it's a weird mid-life crisis thing. It's beyond rationale and guys don't have a menopause.
Just those stages. 1. Lose the GE. 2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice) 3. Lose the referendum It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
And paying to be a full Labour member - coughing up again to be a Supporter and it still thwarted.
'As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.'
What a pathetic & childish comment,must be the Nissan news or the quarterly growth figures that has upset you. If I'm not mistaken Plato voted Tory in 2010 & 15 but in your little lefty bubble I guess even Cameron is a racist.
No, but Plato clearly is. I support wealth redistribution, so why would I be upset by the government paying Nissan to stay in the UK?
That is a very nasty smear about Plato. Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
Not a smear. An evidence-based opinion.
Seriously, you're making an arse of yourself. Just stop - unless you want to continue making my sides ache.
Was the main reason why the Treasury's forecast of the effects of a Leave vote have already proved to be so wrong, due to the fact that unlike their budget forecasts their referendum forecasts were not made by the OBR? Whereas the OBR approved forecast for Q3 made at the start of 2016, proved to be more accurate than the later Treasury Leave vote forecast. The OBR may prove to be the wisest decision Osborne ever made.
"In his foreword to the Treasury’s analysis of the short-term effects of a Leave vote – released a month before the referendum – Osborne wrote: “a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession”. There’s no doubt whatsoever that he meant that the economy would enter negative growth immediately after the vote – Table 2.C in the same report predicts growth for this quarter, Q3 2016, of between -0.1 and -1 per cent."
The growth aspect of the " economic shock " prediction has proved wrong because consumers have kept spending in spectacular fashion. The You Gov numbers down thread suggest why. We were just completely wrong about the immeadiate aspect of that. However the £ Devaluation is already greater than severe shock forecast. And us paying Nissan to stay is a sign of economic shock. We'll see what the inflationary wave that's coming does to consumer spending.
The inflationary wave depends upon how long the £ stays down below a level of USA1.30. If it recovers above that the inflation will be marginal. On your point about consumer confidence, that is a surprise when set against the backdrop of being blitzed via the main theme in the broadcast media (BBC/ITV/C4/SKY) line of an economic slump.
Was the main reason why the Treasury's forecast of the effects of a Leave vote have already proved to be so wrong, due to the fact that unlike their budget forecasts their referendum forecasts were not made by the OBR? Whereas the OBR approved forecast for Q3 made at the start of 2016, proved to be more accurate than the later Treasury Leave vote forecast. The OBR may prove to be the wisest decision Osborne ever made.
"In his foreword to the Treasury’s analysis of the short-term effects of a Leave vote – released a month before the referendum – Osborne wrote: “a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession”. There’s no doubt whatsoever that he meant that the economy would enter negative growth immediately after the vote – Table 2.C in the same report predicts growth for this quarter, Q3 2016, of between -0.1 and -1 per cent."
The growth aspect of the " economic shock " prediction has proved wrong because consumers have kept spending in spectacular fashion. The You Gov numbers down thread suggest why. We were just completely wrong about the immeadiate aspect of that. However the £ Devaluation is already greater than severe shock forecast. And us paying Nissan to stay is a sign of economic shock. We'll see what the inflationary wave that's coming does to consumer spending.
The inflationary wave depends upon how long the £ stays down below a level of USA1.30. If it recovers above that the inflation will be marginal. On your point about consumer confidence, that is a surprise when set against the backdrop of being blitzed via the main theme in the broadcast media (BBC/ITV/C4/SKY) line of an economic slump.
So no evidence, The Times also said it was nonsense too, mind you believed the spam email that Clinton received was actually stuff she sent out, so there's no hope.
I used cope?
Some of us are staking real money on this election, you posting nonsense on this subject isn't good.
snip
Th two individuals, and various ways to throw your vote away. Agory, Hillary would lose. But she's not up against any of them; she's up against Trump...
Didn't you vote Remain?....
As in all elections, you're rooting for the racist. Admit it and set yourself free.
.... For a smart guy, you're being so dumb. EDIT I'm happy to be with Eliot Ness
Given your co and parties across can't admit it.
Of course you are! All I'm doing is stating the obvious.
OK - in every single election held anywhere in the world if a xenophobe or a racist is standing you lead the cheering for him/her on here.
I am not sure we want to revisit Plato's reactions to Jo Cox's murder.
That I thought it was nonsense sentimentality by people who knew her as someone at work? They weren't her family.
I stand by it entirely. I knew people who dropped dead in meetings and didn't need grief counselling or days off to grieve. It was twaddle then and now.
You accused me of virtue signalling for saying I went back to work the day after my mother died because I did what I thought she'd want. Urgh.
Look at yourself. You'll score a cheap point at any level.
Just those stages. 1. Lose the GE. 2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice) 3. Lose the referendum It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
Lol.
Top trolling.
Possibly beats Will Straw when it comes to backing losers.
Must be pretty confusing to be so out of touch with the UK on so many issues.
I honestly think it's a weird mid-life crisis thing. It's beyond rationale and guys don't have a menopause.
Just those stages. 1. Lose the GE. 2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice) 3. Lose the referendum It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
To-day's growth figures,the Nissan news & the 400 new jobs in the city were the tipping point.
76.4% of people who deny they are racists are in fact racists - FACT!
Actually, I'd guess if you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time denying you're something, there probably is an above average chance that you are that thing.
Nats like you are constantly accused of being whiny, boring, xenophobic, grievance-mongering titwanks, so clearly you are exactly that.
Comments were raised about Rubio doing much better than Trump in the relative opinion polls (in Florida) and it was argued that this was an anti-Trump position.
But Trump WON Florida over Rubio in the primaries.
I feel free. I have spent far too long not saying what I believe to be true.
It may be what you believe to be true, it is also boring, offensive, repetitive and largely irrelevant, and makes you sound like some tedious Corbynite with their shrill and Maoist accusations of unsound thinking.
That I thought it was nonsense sentimentality by people who knew her as someone at work? They weren't her family.
I stand by it entirely. I knew people who dropped dead in meetings and didn't need grief counselling or days off to grieve. It was twaddle then and now.
You accused me of virtue signalling for saying I went back to work the day after my mother died because I did what I thought she'd want. Urgh.
Look at yourself. You'll score a cheap point at any level.
Not wishing to get drawn into a private spat, but can I say I agree with you on the grief counselling and going back to work issues. I have lost both parents, a sister and all too many friends and have never felt the need for counselling. Death is part of life, so at the appropriate time raise a glass (or three) to them, treasure the memories you have of them and get on with life. That seems a much healthier attitude than making a big song and dance about someone's death and seeking help to deal with one's feelings.
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The OBR may prove to be the wisest decision Osborne ever made.
"In his foreword to the Treasury’s analysis of the short-term effects of a Leave vote – released a month before the referendum – Osborne wrote: “a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession”. There’s no doubt whatsoever that he meant that the economy would enter negative growth immediately after the vote – Table 2.C in the same report predicts growth for this quarter, Q3 2016, of between -0.1 and -1 per cent."
I'm most amused - do carry on.
Q: Has Hilary made racists statements? The answer is yes. Trump certainly has done the same. They are two awful candidates and in Mrs May we have a better person than those two, although Mrs May is not my choice from the Conservatives!
http://order-order.com/2016/10/27/jews-blamed-holocaust-jenny-tonge-event/
She was desperate to call Hopkins a sexist, but she was the wrong gender - it was hilarious. Neither came out of it well - but it was fun viewing.
The whole thing has lost the plot.
You'll be calling me a homophobe next.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/11/13/infographic-obama-lost-the-independent-vote-in-almost-every-swing-state
Personally I think I'd register as a republican seeing as how their primaries are always much more fun, then vote Democrat anyway.
Actually, I'd guess if you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time denying you're something, there probably is an above average chance that you are that thing.
1. Lose the GE.
2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice)
3. Lose the referendum
It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
That's a lot of dosh for naught.
Who cares who people support in an election in which they have no vote?
On your point about consumer confidence, that is a surprise when set against the backdrop of being blitzed via the main theme in the broadcast media (BBC/ITV/C4/SKY) line of an economic slump.
I stand by it entirely. I knew people who dropped dead in meetings and didn't need grief counselling or days off to grieve. It was twaddle then and now.
You accused me of virtue signalling for saying I went back to work the day after my mother died because I did what I thought she'd want. Urgh.
Look at yourself. You'll score a cheap point at any level.
Top trolling.
Possibly beats Will Straw when it comes to backing losers.
Must be pretty confusing to be so out of touch with the UK on so many issues.
I honestly think it's a weird mid-life crisis thing. It's beyond rationale and guys don't have a menopause.
Just those stages.
1. Lose the GE.
2. Lose the Labour leadership to Corbyn (twice)
3. Lose the referendum
It is a lot of losing to bear. Worse than supporting Spurs.
To-day's growth figures,the Nissan news & the 400 new jobs in the city were the tipping point.
But Trump WON Florida over Rubio in the primaries.
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It's most amusing. I've scrolled by 80% of posts arguing partisan stuff for days and yours caught my eye.
Jared Wyand
Trump cared about blacks even 30 years ago We can put the money into Harlem https://t.co/wpkG9xcSqx
The Wyzer
@WDFx2EU7 But that was when he was a Democrat. Now that he is a Republican, it some how undoes everything good he ever did.
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