It's heartening to see so many lefties care about City jobs and the prosperity of bankers lately. Why just a few months ago these same people were decrying us all as thieves and spivs. Amazing how much they are willing to give at the altar of the EU.
I find it very amusing, and the idea that the public will care if "bankers" get in the neck is even funnier.
Indeed, this obsession with the City by some of our resident lefties is a bit sad. I can understand the likes of Richard Nabavi and TOPPING being worried about its future (though I think they worry too much) but when I see a known lefty tell me about how awful all the job losses are going to be when just last year they were revelling in City job losses to Frankfurt or Paris as some kind of payback for the previous recession. One in which the City, as most people know it, had very little responsibility since it was ordinary retail banks lending money to people who were unsuitable that broke RBS, HBOS and Northern Rock.
Well said, Mr. Max
Perhaps lefties have learned to care about bankers, after all.
I disagree with your assertion that the EU makes us better off, but let's for the sake of argument assume you're right. Is a bit more material wealth worthwhile compensation for being governed in a remote, opaque, barely democratic manner?
I believe that describing us as being governed in a remote , opaque , barely democratic manner is a gross exaggeration .
Did you vote for Jean-Claude Juncker?
Technically, 28,014 people in London voted for the EPP at the 2014 European Elections.
"In the letter, his office provided notice to Mr. Trump’s foundation that within 15 days it must provide certain documents required to be filed by organizations that solicit contributions, including audited financial statements and annual financial reports. It also must file any 'delinquent reports' for past years within that time frame."
"'The failure immediately to discontinue solicitation and to file information and reports' with the charities bureau, Mr. Sheehan said, 'shall be deemed a fraud upon the people of the state of New York.'"
So in short, Donald Trump could get his collar felt on 18 October, the day before the third and last TV debate.
It's heartening to see so many lefties care about City jobs and the prosperity of bankers lately. Why just a few months ago these same people were decrying us all as thieves and spivs. Amazing how much they are willing to give at the altar of the EU.
I find it very amusing, and the idea that the public will care if "bankers" get in the neck is even funnier.
Indeed, this obsession with the City by some of our resident lefties is a bit sad. I can understand the likes of Richard Nabavi and TOPPING being worried about its future (though I think they worry too much) but when I see a known lefty tell me about how awful all the job losses are going to be when just last year they were revelling in City job losses to Frankfurt or Paris as some kind of payback for the previous recession. One in which the City, as most people know it, had very little responsibility since it was ordinary retail banks lending money to people who were unsuitable that broke RBS, HBOS and Northern Rock.
Well said, Mr. Max
Perhaps lefties have learned to care about bankers, after all.
A new BLM, Banker Lives Matter?
Well most of the blm idiots from the city airport protest are from those circles.
Your patriotic bluster about sovereignty and self-governance will mean nothing in depressed economic times. Where I work I've been told tough decisions will be made in context with Brexit - job losses are expected. '
According to Nick Clegg 3 million job losses are expected ,but could be EU patriotic bluster.
There are about 32 million people employed currently in the UK. If that drops to 29 million in the next five years, we'll owe Nick Clegg an apology.
Your patriotic bluster about sovereignty and self-governance will mean nothing in depressed economic times. Where I work I've been told tough decisions will be made in context with Brexit - job losses are expected. '
According to Nick Clegg 3 million job losses are expected ,but could be EU patriotic bluster.
Firstly that quote is incorrect Clegg is always careful to say "3 million jobs COULD be at risk". Which is a bit like saying I could be abducted by aliens. Secondly Clegg is a tosser how many seats did he lose at the last election....is that the performance of a man worth listening to.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
I think Hillary will do better than expected across the Old Confederacy. In part it is Demographic change, including Northern White College grads moving to the Sunbelt, as well as Hispanics. I also think that Trump is too much the New York Yankee for a lot of the Bible bashing rednecks. He will still win most States in the Confederacy, but not by as big a margin as previous Republicans.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
If Trump is 3-4% behind then he has a much better than 10% chance of winning.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
The former sounds like a vegetarian place, no thanks. Not big on seafood either, where are the kebabs and the mushkaki!
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
For fuck's sake. We've all just this minute agreed that Remainers would stop saying anything about Brexit, in any form, in any language, and on any aspect, for the rest of recorded time, as no one wanted to hear their stupid, childish opinions and it was killing the site for everyone else, and you break the agreement in the first five minutes??
SHUT UP.
I never agreed ;-)
Now go back to your Barolo, a fine example of the Dolce Vita that we have parted company with!
It's also the most total bollocks. One, we already pay in EHIC, two, do they really want lots of rather affluent retirees to leave struggling Spain, three, we send 13m tourists their way, what if they all thought "oo-er, Spain is less inviting, let's go to Portugal"
It's time to wield a bit of stick with Johnny Continental. As much as some Brexiteers can be dewy-eyed about our prospects, I think the Europeans are showing signs of over-estimating quite how much leverage they have.
In the words of FU, time to put some stick about...
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I agree with that. To me, the freedom for people to live and work across the continent is the crowning glory of the EU.
But I also think that states should be allowed to discriminate against non citizens. I see no reason why the UK government should, for example, provide housing benefit to non citizens, and I see no reason why the UK government cannot subsidise the employment of Brits.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I agree with that. To me, the freedom for people to live and work across the continent is the crowning glory of the EU.
But I also think that states should be allowed to discriminate against non citizens. I see no reason why the UK government should, for example, provide housing benefit to non citizens, and I see no reason why the UK government cannot subsidise the employment of Brits.
Just because a Spanish minister says that is what he wants doesn't mean that is what he will get. Spain wants all those Brits to spend their pensions there, does it not? Well ... And now, about those 129,000 Spaniards in the UK ...
FPT re Apple products. After hubris comes nemesis I think.
I have a 2010 macbook pro which provided all my home computing needs for years. But it is now undoubtedly clunky and old and doesn't seem to want to install the latest version of OSX. Fair nuff, old machine.
I have a 3 year old ipad. Utter piece of junk. Sits in a cupboard and never gets used.
I am posting this from my Samsung S5. Love it totally and when my upgrade cycle comes round will be getting an S7. I prefer to stay a bit behind the curve.
When eldest child hit secondary school 3 years ago I got her a basic Windows laptop. She is a gamer so wouldn't even think of an Apple product. Cost quite a lot that did but still half the price of an equiv macbook. But that is getting clunky now.
Youngest child went up to secondary school this year. I bought him a Chromebook on an Amazon deal for £99!. He loves it. Gaming aside it does everything that you might want a computer to do if you are 11.
Work upgraded the IT recently. The Toshiba laptop is so far superior in every respect to the macbook, even comparing specs to the latest macbook.
They gave me a work iphone 6. Binned BB's. Compared to my S5 the iphone is rubbish as a smartphone but, thing is, the iphone is massively inferior to the BB as a portable Outlook, which is what most people in corporate life want a company mobile device to do. BB should have stayed in the business of providing a cheap corporate Outlook portal with good security and left fancier remote working stuff to others.
Apple have a massive cash pile and a srong brand. But they are not tech innovators.
No doubt everyone is gripped by my IT experiences!
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I would see that as being more of an imposition than a freedom.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
If Trump is 3-4% behind then he has a much better than 10% chance of winning.
What happens if he's actually 5-6% behind because he has a skeleton GOTV operation?
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I agree with that. To me, the freedom for people to live and work across the continent is the crowning glory of the EU.
But I also think that states should be allowed to discriminate against non citizens. I see no reason why the UK government should, for example, provide housing benefit to non citizens, and I see no reason why the UK government cannot subsidise the employment of Brits.
Absolutely agreed. The idea of "EU citizenship" is detestable and should be ditched, but since we were clearly unable to do that within the EU we've had to leave. Though I have to say we shouldn't be in the practice of subsidising wages through welfare, or the cost of living. I'd prefer to raise the minimum wage and give away the welfare savings in eliminating employer's NI and cutting corporation tax to 15%, 12.5% for SMEs to offset the costs of raising the minimum wage.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
The former sounds like a vegetarian place, no thanks. Not big on seafood either, where are the kebabs and the mushkaki!
Kayal specialises in Keralan seafood curries, the Shivalli is pure veg.
Next to Shivalli is the Kuru Kuru sushi bar. Great sushi, and made by an enormous Bengali chef. It is closed on Friday for prayers. Such is the weird cultural mix of Leicester.
I live in Leicester because I like it! I was born in a Lancs mill town, but having been here 25 years have grown to love the place, in all its unruly charm.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
If Trump is 3-4% behind then he has a much better than 10% chance of winning.
But he's not even trying. It's only 30 days till the finish line and he hasn't shown a single ounce of personal competence or intelligence for ages.
Think if the Tories or Labour where ahead by 3-4% on average 1 month before election time and the opposition where crap especially on TV and their ground game and all the newspapers and the media being hostile to them. All the signs would point towards a government victory.
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
The research triangle has brought a lot of highly educated research and academic types to NC, and Obama has energized the black vote. Thus NC is slowly trending solid deep red to purple.
It's heartening to see so many lefties care about City jobs and the prosperity of bankers lately. Why just a few months ago these same people were decrying us all as thieves and spivs. Amazing how much they are willing to give at the altar of the EU.
My personal favourite was the sudden praise of Chris Grayling - a man previously derided as beyond stupid for years - the moment he backed May's leadership campaign.
Hilarious.
not nearly as funny as your trolling for Leadsom and now Trump.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
If Trump is 3-4% behind then he has a much better than 10% chance of winning.
What happens if he's actually 5-6% behind because he has a skeleton GOTV operation?
I don't think GOTV makes more than a difference of 0.1-2% (of course, that 0.1-0.2% can be crucial, in very tight contests).
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
So where do you live, old boy?
Now? Birmingham, for family reasons. I lived and worked in Germany for 10 years though, and I would quite like the opportunity to return and retire either there or to Spain once I'm no longer tied here.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I would see that as being more of an imposition than a freedom.
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence. 2. Hillary to display ignorance. 3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus: 1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months. 2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose. 3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose. 4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
If Trump is 3-4% behind then he has a much better than 10% chance of winning.
But he's not even trying. It's only 30 days till the finish line and he hasn't shown a single ounce of personal competence or intelligence for ages.
Think if the Tories or Labour where ahead by 3-4% on average 1 month before election time and the opposition where crap especially on TV and their ground game and all the newspapers and the media being hostile to them. All the signs would point towards a government victory.
Those 2% are going to be really upset that Stein isn't on the ballot.
They are not going to vote for climate change denier Trump, are they?
Ron Paul is considering voting Stein.
That's it, I'm done with this election.
There was a marvellously bonkers interview on Sky news where he said that Trump just represented the establishment and wasn't a change candidate at all. The presenter didn't know what to say.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
We're not in Asia! Our commonality with Europe stretches to a few wars and, with northern Europe, a king who wanted to get a divorce.
A eurosceptic Frog put it best.
"Europe is my civilisation, but France is my country"
I feel the same. Europe is my culture, in the broadest sense. When I go to a small French or Italian or German town, I can see how it looks like a small British town, in crucial ways, and not a Chinese or Egyptian town. Church, square, World War 1 memorial. Latin alphabet. Cobblestones.
Europe is my wider home: I am proud to be a European, and heir to all that magnificent civilisation. But it is certainly not my nation, or my primary identity. The grand idiocy of the EU was to try and make itself that. Disaster.
Yes, I guess as a British Indian I feel much less affinity for Europe than the average Brit, there are no ties that bind me to Europe. Though as I always say, if it weren't for the Empire I would not be here, my grandparents were British citizens and came to the UK via East Africa. For me the UK is my home and I'm proud to be British. I like Europe and have visited many times, I'm about to move to Switzerland but I'll never look upon the continent in the same way I do this nation. It's a bit like singing I Vow To Thee My Country, on the rare occasion I'm at a function when I stand and sing it, I don't think of Europe or India, I think of this country. I think there are a few people who do (or would, since they would never be caught singing such a patriotic song) think of Europe, these are the kind of Remainers we have on PB. Just as the leave voter on PB is atypical, so is the remain voter.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I would see that as being more of an imposition than a freedom.
How so?
That is how natives feel about mass migration into the places they live in.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I suspect that many of these freedoms, post-Brexit, will be qualified - but preserved.
We will have a work permit system. If you have a job offer (or the means to support yourself without benefits) sure- you can move anywhere you like between the UK and the EU.
So if you've got enough cash you'll still be able to retire to the Algarve, or if you've got a job in German fintech, you'll still be able to move to Berlin. If you're a Parisian banker wanted by Barclays in Holborn, come on over. And of course tourists will still be able to move freely, without visas, as they do now.
What you WON'T be able to do is move to the UK, or move from the UK to the EU, without a job offer, or without any money.
But really, how many people did that in the UK? Just went to Barcelona with no cash, intending to claim benefits and look for work? Not many.
Not much will change.
Plenty of working class folk retire to the Costas from Leicester.
It will be nicer when only us rich folk can afford it. Let them go to Skegness.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I suspect that many of these freedoms, post-Brexit, will be qualified - but preserved.
We will have a work permit system. If you have a job offer (or the means to support yourself without benefits) sure- you can move anywhere you like between the UK and the EU.
So if you've got enough cash you'll still be able to retire to the Algarve, or if you've got a job in German fintech, you'll still be able to move to Berlin. If you're a Parisian banker wanted by Barclays in Holborn, come on over. And of course tourists will still be able to move freely, without visas, as they do now.
What you WON'T be able to do is move to the UK, or move from the UK to the EU, without a job offer, or without any money.
But really, how many people did that in the UK? Just went to Barcelona with no cash, intending to claim benefits and look for work? Not many.
Not much will change.
Yep, I agree: People will travel on tourist visas, get jobs and convert to work visas. You'll probably need health insurance if you want to live and work in rEU, but that's no big deal - except maybe for pensioners as their premiums will be very high.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
The former sounds like a vegetarian place, no thanks. Not big on seafood either, where are the kebabs and the mushkaki!
Kayal specialises in Keralan seafood curries, the Shivalli is pure veg.
Next to Shivalli is the Kuru Kuru sushi bar. Great sushi, and made by an enormous Bengali chef. It is closed on Friday for prayers. Such is the weird cultural mix of Leicester.
I live in Leicester because I like it! I was born in a Lancs mill town, but having been here 25 years have grown to love the place, in all its unruly charm.
Fair go, Doc. So having to fill in an extra form for the right to reside in, say, Portugal (which is all I had to do in the sixties) wouldn't cause you much bother.
You are happy living in Leicester, why the fuss about being able to live elsewhere in Europe?
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
DC is not that big.
People moving down the atlantic coast from the N.Eastern cities, eventually the entire Atlantic coastline will vote for the democrats, from Maine to Miami.
The great lakes will go republican but that is still a losing trade off for republicans.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I suspect that many of these freedoms, post-Brexit, will be qualified - but preserved.
We will have a work permit system. If you have a job offer (or the means to support yourself without benefits) sure- you can move anywhere you like between the UK and the EU.
So if you've got enough cash you'll still be able to retire to the Algarve, or if you've got a job in German fintech, you'll still be able to move to Berlin. If you're a Parisian banker wanted by Barclays in Holborn, come on over. And of course tourists will still be able to move freely, without visas, as they do now.
What you WON'T be able to do is move to the UK, or move from the UK to the EU, without a job offer, or without any money.
But really, how many people did that in the UK? Just went to Barcelona with no cash, intending to claim benefits and look for work? Not many.
Not much will change.
You cannot access benefits in Spain unless you are over 65 or working - as in most EU countries - the UK is very much the exception. They could have ended that easily without leaving the EU. However, the die is cast and one accepts the result.
I thought we already paid the health bills for retirees in Spain, or am I wrong?
I think we do - I expect this is just posturing to make sure that continues. They may fear that the UK plans to abandon the 'expats' to their fate
I thought healthcare was the responsibility of the country of residence. The EHIC card was specifically designed for people temporarily away from their residence and normal healthcare support, which in many countries is insurance. If so and bearing in mind the elderly demographic in Spain and the presumably high maintenance costs, I would think that a reasonable negotiating gambit from Spain. They are OK with it as long as everyone is part of the system, but if Britain isn't, why should Spain take on the extra burden?
PS we may be confusing welfare payments, which are different from healthcare costs
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
Isn't there a rapidly expanding university/research triangle based around Duke and Charlotte? These kinds of place tend to help the Democrats.
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
In NC, it has nothing to do with DC, but the Research Triangle, clustered around Duke, NCSU and UNC Chapel Hill. Google it.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I would see that as being more of an imposition than a freedom.
How so?
That is how natives feel about mass migration into the places they live in.
Well, yes. Generalising wildly, the desire of the old to determine who lives next door to them has triumphed over the desire of the young to live where they please. I'm unconvinced that this is a good thing.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I suspect that many of these freedoms, post-Brexit, will be qualified - but preserved.
We will have a work permit system. If you have a job offer (or the means to support yourself without benefits) sure- you can move anywhere you like between the UK and the EU.
So if you've got enough cash you'll still be able to retire to the Algarve, or if you've got a job in German fintech, you'll still be able to move to Berlin. If you're a Parisian banker wanted by Barclays in Holborn, come on over. And of course tourists will still be able to move freely, without visas, as they do now.
What you WON'T be able to do is move to the UK, or move from the UK to the EU, without a job offer, or without any money.
But really, how many people did that in the UK? Just went to Barcelona with no cash, intending to claim benefits and look for work? Not many.
Not much will change.
In the Remainiac worldview, absolute freedom of movement is an inalienable human right, but getting to hire and fire your lawmakers is a 20th century fad.
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
In NC, it has nothing to do with DC, but the Research Triangle, clustered around Duke, NCSU and UNC Chapel Hill. Google it.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
The former sounds like a vegetarian place, no thanks. Not big on seafood either, where are the kebabs and the mushkaki!
Kayal specialises in Keralan seafood curries, the Shivalli is pure veg.
Next to Shivalli is the Kuru Kuru sushi bar. Great sushi, and made by an enormous Bengali chef. It is closed on Friday for prayers. Such is the weird cultural mix of Leicester.
I live in Leicester because I like it! I was born in a Lancs mill town, but having been here 25 years have grown to love the place, in all its unruly charm.
Fair go, Doc. So having to fill in an extra form for the right to reside in, say, Portugal (which is all I had to do in the sixties) wouldn't cause you much bother.
You are happy living in Leicester, why the fuss about being able to live elsewhere in Europe?
I may well retire there. I rather like the Italian lakes, but could be tempted by the Ionian coast of Greece. Great sailing and pretty ports.
Fox jr is likely to move abroad to work, most likely to Germany. It may not be so easy now.
Those 2% are going to be really upset that Stein isn't on the ballot.
They are not going to vote for climate change denier Trump, are they?
Ron Paul is considering voting Stein.
That's it, I'm done with this election.
There was a marvellously bonkers interview on Sky news where he said that Trump just represented the establishment and wasn't a change candidate at all. The presenter didn't know what to say.
Well if you where Ron Paul you wouldn't be voting Trump because is a nutcase, you wouldn't vote for Hillary because she is a basketcase, you wouldn't vote for Johnson because "what is aleppo", and you wouldn't vote McMuffin because even if he is on the ballot he is CIA.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Primarily the freedom to live, work or retire wherever I like across a wonderfully varied continent without requiring the permission of some government busybody to do so. It's a freedom I've made good use of and would have liked to continue doing so. That and the ease of working as a freelancer within a potential market of 500 million customers.
I would see that as being more of an imposition than a freedom.
How so?
That is how natives feel about mass migration into the places they live in.
Well, yes. Generalising wildly, the desire of the old to determine who lives next door to them has triumphed over the desire of the young to live where they please. I'm unconvinced that this is a good thing.
That is the most concise summary of Brexit that I have seen. I may steal it!
I thought we already paid the health bills for retirees in Spain, or am I wrong?
I think we do - I expect this is just posturing to make sure that continues. They may fear that the UK plans to abandon the 'expats' to their fate
I thought healthcare was the responsibility of the country of residence. The EHIC card was specifically designed for people temporarily away from their residence and normal healthcare support, which in many countries is insurance. If so and bearing in mind the elderly demographic in Spain and the presumably high maintenance costs, I would think that a reasonable negotiating gambit from Spain. They are OK with it as long as everyone is part of the system, but if Britain isn't, why should Spain take on the extra burden?
PS we may be confusing welfare payments, which are different from healthcare costs
Host countries can claim back cost of treatment from the home country, but in Spain there's a lot of care expenditure for our elderly emigrants which can't be claimed back. As we tend to get young Spaniards we clearly get the best of the batgain currently. Brexit is a good rebalancing opportunity for the Spanish. I imagine a PP-led government will also try to do something around Gibraltar.
The table doesn't break out referendum vote, but based on other ones I have seen Leave voters will very strongly prioritise immigration control, while Remain voters will less strongly prioritise the single market.
Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem?
A common European history and culture for me.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
So why are you living in Leicester of all places? Crikey there are better places in England to live never mind the rest of Europe.
Lol, whenever I go to Leicester I can't wait to get away. What irritates me the most is that for a city with so many Indians, the Indian restaurants are nothing compared to North West London.
Many excellent places here to eat. My favourite is Shivalli on the Welford rd. Their Thali is a bargain. For seafood Kayal is very good.
The former sounds like a vegetarian place, no thanks. Not big on seafood either, where are the kebabs and the mushkaki!
Kayal specialises in Keralan seafood curries, the Shivalli is pure veg.
Next to Shivalli is the Kuru Kuru sushi bar. Great sushi, and made by an enormous Bengali chef. It is closed on Friday for prayers. Such is the weird cultural mix of Leicester.
I live in Leicester because I like it! I was born in a Lancs mill town, but having been here 25 years have grown to love the place, in all its unruly charm.
Fair go, Doc. So having to fill in an extra form for the right to reside in, say, Portugal (which is all I had to do in the sixties) wouldn't cause you much bother.
You are happy living in Leicester, why the fuss about being able to live elsewhere in Europe?
I may well retire there. I rather like the Italian lakes, but could be tempted by the Ionian coast of Greece. Great sailing and pretty ports.
Fox jr is likely to move abroad to work, most likely to Germany. It may not be so easy now.
This is where Young Enjineeya will benefit from Brexit. With a German mum, his German passport means he'll retain freedom of movement, so he'll be able to waltz straight on into any jobs on offer in the rEU while his competitors are faffing with the paperwork.
Apologies, for the foul language, and I thought about not posting but there is really so much sh1t being said by some on here about the US election whom I am guessing do not know any actual American voters (bar Todd who works in banking and lives in South Ken) and how they know that Trump has a less than a 10% chance etc etc etc...the man has far more of a chance than you think. I am not saying he will win but the value is with Trump, not with Clinton.
Why do I think a lot of sh1t is being said?
1. You are underestimating the NeverHillary camp - yes, all the noise is about NeverTrump (and Americans in the UK are the worst for this - they are particularly piqued by what they see as Trump's vulgarity). But there are a lot of people who HATE Clinton, even in the Democratic base - they do not trust her and think she is appalling; it is just far less socially acceptable to say so, particularly in an environment like the United States, which is far more PC at certain levels and where you get accused of being anti-women etc etc if you express such thoughts (and quite easily get fired in many places).
I will give you one example: in my wife's family (African-American, Middle Class), Obama got all four of their votes in 2008 and 2012; out of the six who will vote this time, HRC will get maximum three and probably two, And that is not uncommon to hear: African-Americans voted for Obama because he was one of them; HRC is not (and forget about the "love" they feel for Bill).
2. Because it is socially unacceptable to say in many quarters that you will vote Trump, his support is a lot more than appears. The number of conversations we have had with Americans - college educated Americans, Black and White and many who voted Democrat previously - is that they and their friends will vote for Trump but they will not dare say it openly. Now, maybe they do not. But there are too many conversations where this occurs to write it off.
3. His supporters are enthused, hers are not. The only ones where I see any vague enthusiasm for HRC is amongst old-school Democrats and particularly our college-educated, female American liberal friends in their late 40s upwards. And even they say she is "not ideal".
With Trump, sure people don't trust him but they are not voting for him, they are voting for what he is deemed to represent. A lot of people have been left behind in the States - HRC offers them nothing; Trump may not deliver but he just might.
4. This is seen as a "last stand" election by many pro-Trump supporters i.e. if HRC wins, she will pack the Supreme Court with "liberals"; that she will allow mass-scale immigration; and that, if you are white and blue collar, you will be at the back of the queue. That will get them out to vote.
DYOR - but do not trust people who make out they know everything when they know jack (and, no, I do not know everything either and may be completely wrong - but at least I have some connection to the place).
I thought we already paid the health bills for retirees in Spain, or am I wrong?
I think we do - I expect this is just posturing to make sure that continues. They may fear that the UK plans to abandon the 'expats' to their fate
I thought healthcare was the responsibility of the country of residence. The EHIC card was specifically designed for people temporarily away from their residence and normal healthcare support, which in many countries is insurance. If so and bearing in mind the elderly demographic in Spain and the presumably high maintenance costs, I would think that a reasonable negotiating gambit from Spain. They are OK with it as long as everyone is part of the system, but if Britain isn't, why should Spain take on the extra burden?
PS we may be confusing welfare payments, which are different from healthcare costs
I think for over 65s it seems to be an EEA rule. Certainly if Spain demands the UK pay [ an entirely reasonable request] and the UK demurs it would seriously harm UK pensioners in here without private cover. And for many both the cost and exclusions would make that a real problem, potentially forcing some to return to the UK. Just as well the UK NHS is in such good shape...OH wait..
North Carolina seems to be going the same way as Virginia. Not sure why...
Virginia has gone Democract because Washington DC has bled into Virginia - now that is seeping into North Carolina. If you look at where votes Democrat in NC it's the Counties closest to Washington DC
In NC, it has nothing to do with DC, but the Research Triangle, clustered around Duke, NCSU and UNC Chapel Hill. Google it.
The research triangle is obviously the nucleus of it but from talking to a couple of different people who live in NC they said there has been a real shift iin the last decade of people who live in NC but do out of state work with the second order effect of Washington to Virginia being cited as the reason.
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Clinton 44%
Trump 43%
Johnson 6%
Stein 2%
https://t.co/oIyYFuvZhp https://t.co/aRHBKUfSeD
Though that maybe because of Die Hard.
'Why do some people love the EU so much? What itch does it scratch? You like the flag? The anthem? '
The clapped out reject politicians that run it ?
Do you really think she's going to give that up?
The "notice of violation" that the New York attorney general has sent to the Trump Foundation is big news.
"In the letter, his office provided notice to Mr. Trump’s foundation that within 15 days it must provide certain documents required to be filed by organizations that solicit contributions, including audited financial statements and annual financial reports. It also must file any 'delinquent reports' for past years within that time frame."
"'The failure immediately to discontinue solicitation and to file information and reports' with the charities bureau, Mr. Sheehan said, 'shall be deemed a fraud upon the people of the state of New York.'"
So in short, Donald Trump could get his collar felt on 18 October, the day before the third and last TV debate.
I like being European, and having the right to live freely across the greatest continent on the planet.
I think he's likely to go wanting. But who knows.
Some intriguing details
For Trump to win 3 things will have to happen that are very very unlikely.
1. Trump to display intelligence.
2. Hillary to display ignorance.
3. To stay that way for at least the final 2 weeks till election day.
Plus:
1.Trump will have to be at his best and Hillary at her worst, something that has happened only 10 days out of the last 5 months.
2.And there are still another 2 debates for Trump to lose.
3.And we still aren't sure if Trump is actively sabotaging himself to lose.
4.The Abominable Trump is either increadibly crazy or increadibly stupid.
There are more reasons that say Trump's a loser than Owen Smith.
Cruella De Vil is going to win this thing and become President for lack of credible or sane opposition.
https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/782997170236653569
Perhaps your aunt was correct and you are a wicked child.
'So THIS is what they meant by Take Back Control...
https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/782997170236653569
That's fine as long as we can apply the same charges to the 3 million EU citizens living in the UK.
Now go back to your Barolo, a fine example of the Dolce Vita that we have parted company with!
But I also think that states should be allowed to discriminate against non citizens. I see no reason why the UK government should, for example, provide housing benefit to non citizens, and I see no reason why the UK government cannot subsidise the employment of Brits.
Just because a Spanish minister says that is what he wants doesn't mean that is what he will get. Spain wants all those Brits to spend their pensions there, does it not? Well ... And now, about those 129,000 Spaniards in the UK ...
I have a 2010 macbook pro which provided all my home computing needs for years. But it is now undoubtedly clunky and old and doesn't seem to want to install the latest version of OSX. Fair nuff, old machine.
I have a 3 year old ipad. Utter piece of junk. Sits in a cupboard and never gets used.
I am posting this from my Samsung S5. Love it totally and when my upgrade cycle comes round will be getting an S7. I prefer to stay a bit behind the curve.
When eldest child hit secondary school 3 years ago I got her a basic Windows laptop. She is a gamer so wouldn't even think of an Apple product. Cost quite a lot that did but still half the price of an equiv macbook. But that is getting clunky now.
Youngest child went up to secondary school this year. I bought him a Chromebook on an Amazon deal for £99!. He loves it. Gaming aside it does everything that you might want a computer to do if you are 11.
Work upgraded the IT recently. The Toshiba laptop is so far superior in every respect to the macbook, even comparing specs to the latest macbook.
They gave me a work iphone 6. Binned BB's. Compared to my S5 the iphone is rubbish as a smartphone but, thing is, the iphone is massively inferior to the BB as a portable Outlook, which is what most people in corporate life want a company mobile device to do. BB should have stayed in the business of providing a cheap corporate Outlook portal with good security and left fancier remote working stuff to others.
Apple have a massive cash pile and a srong brand. But they are not tech innovators.
No doubt everyone is gripped by my IT experiences!
Next to Shivalli is the Kuru Kuru sushi bar. Great sushi, and made by an enormous Bengali chef. It is closed on Friday for prayers. Such is the weird cultural mix of Leicester.
http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/watch-narborough-road-residents-do-channel-four-continuity-announcements/story-29567895-detail/story.html
I live in Leicester because I like it! I was born in a Lancs mill town, but having been here 25 years have grown to love the place, in all its unruly charm.
It's only 30 days till the finish line and he hasn't shown a single ounce of personal competence or intelligence for ages.
Think if the Tories or Labour where ahead by 3-4% on average 1 month before election time and the opposition where crap especially on TV and their ground game and all the newspapers and the media being hostile to them.
All the signs would point towards a government victory.
The research triangle has brought a lot of highly educated research and academic types to NC, and Obama has energized the black vote. Thus NC is slowly trending solid deep red to purple.
oh dear. may cut into trumps WWC lead...
They are going early because their man is in a bit of diffs. The question is why and how it could kill Clinton amongst her base.
Having said that there is more about Trump and his long held ties in Moscow.The guy is a first rate traitor to his nation.
That's it, I'm done with this election.
It will be nicer when only us rich folk can afford it. Let them go to Skegness.
You are happy living in Leicester, why the fuss about being able to live elsewhere in Europe?
People moving down the atlantic coast from the N.Eastern cities, eventually the entire Atlantic coastline will vote for the democrats, from Maine to Miami.
The great lakes will go republican but that is still a losing trade off for republicans.
ABC
.@realDonaldTrump: "I knew how to use the tax code to rebuild my company...gave me a tremendous advantage." https://t.co/DeZq2USeH8
PS we may be confusing welfare payments, which are different from healthcare costs
BREAKING: Hillary staff passes out Pre-made signs to people in audience so it looks like they brought them...SHARE! https://t.co/uuP81LuNTA
Fox jr is likely to move abroad to work, most likely to Germany. It may not be so easy now.
Sky news poll shows respondents consider control of immigration more important than access to a single market
Some 52% prioritise controlling immigration while 40% think access to the single market is more important - 7% answered "don't know".
http://news.sky.com/story/more-than-half-favour-immigration-controls-over-trade-poll-reveals-10604088
Tables
http://interactive.news.sky.com/SMSXXXII_BREXIT_300916_FP.pdf
EDIT just over 1000 respondents all Sky customers
So what's left ?
Stein.
Brian Williams
Plan for UK military to opt out of convention on human rights https://t.co/ctEFsATKYY
Why do I think a lot of sh1t is being said?
1. You are underestimating the NeverHillary camp - yes, all the noise is about NeverTrump (and Americans in the UK are the worst for this - they are particularly piqued by what they see as Trump's vulgarity). But there are a lot of people who HATE Clinton, even in the Democratic base - they do not trust her and think she is appalling; it is just far less socially acceptable to say so, particularly in an environment like the United States, which is far more PC at certain levels and where you get accused of being anti-women etc etc if you express such thoughts (and quite easily get fired in many places).
I will give you one example: in my wife's family (African-American, Middle Class), Obama got all four of their votes in 2008 and 2012; out of the six who will vote this time, HRC will get maximum three and probably two, And that is not uncommon to hear: African-Americans voted for Obama because he was one of them; HRC is not (and forget about the "love" they feel for Bill).
2. Because it is socially unacceptable to say in many quarters that you will vote Trump, his support is a lot more than appears. The number of conversations we have had with Americans - college educated Americans, Black and White and many who voted Democrat previously - is that they and their friends will vote for Trump but they will not dare say it openly. Now, maybe they do not. But there are too many conversations where this occurs to write it off.
3. His supporters are enthused, hers are not. The only ones where I see any vague enthusiasm for HRC is amongst old-school Democrats and particularly our college-educated, female American liberal friends in their late 40s upwards. And even they say she is "not ideal".
With Trump, sure people don't trust him but they are not voting for him, they are voting for what he is deemed to represent. A lot of people have been left behind in the States - HRC offers them nothing; Trump may not deliver but he just might.
4. This is seen as a "last stand" election by many pro-Trump supporters i.e. if HRC wins, she will pack the Supreme Court with "liberals"; that she will allow mass-scale immigration; and that, if you are white and blue collar, you will be at the back of the queue. That will get them out to vote.
DYOR - but do not trust people who make out they know everything when they know jack (and, no, I do not know everything either and may be completely wrong - but at least I have some connection to the place).
I think for over 65s it seems to be an EEA rule. Certainly if Spain demands the UK pay [ an entirely reasonable request] and the UK demurs it would seriously harm UK pensioners in here without private cover. And for many both the cost and exclusions would make that a real problem, potentially forcing some to return to the UK. Just as well the UK NHS is in such good shape...OH wait..