Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are up against a bunch of whining money-grabbers.
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7 day NHS" means. It has never been properly explained, and in particular how spreading staff thinner will improve things.
We have holes throughout our rota, recruitment from the EU has tailed off following Brexit, and now these strikes. I expect the strikes to peter out but lead to more staff quitting. This is not a good time to be ill. We are going to struggle with even existing staffing levels let alone expanded ones.
Surges are easy when you don't stand in the previous election!
Not that easy, Mr D. If you don`t stand in one election, your organisation and campaigning capacity go to pot. But it certainly looks as though the Lib Dems are on the way back in Cornwall.
Whilst a latter day Trot or similar is the leader of the Labour Party, it will stay blue in Westminster elections.
Not necessarily, the Liberals won Truro in 1983 even when Labour were trounced by the Tories nationally
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Surges are easy when you don't stand in the previous election!
Not that easy, Mr D. If you don`t stand in one election, your organisation and campaigning capacity go to pot. But it certainly looks as though the Lib Dems are on the way back in Cornwall.
Apparently the LD candidate stood as a Liberal in the last election, so some foundation there.
No , not the same candidate , Paul Holmes has been well known in Cornwall for many years as an old fashioned Liberal
Sorry, from your earlier message I thought Paul Holmes was the LD candidate.
Surges are easy when you don't stand in the previous election!
Not that easy, Mr D. If you don`t stand in one election, your organisation and campaigning capacity go to pot. But it certainly looks as though the Lib Dems are on the way back in Cornwall.
Whilst a latter day Trot or similar is the leader of the Labour Party, it will stay blue in Westminster elections.
Not necessarily, the Liberals won Truro in 1983 even when Labour were trounced by the Tories nationally
33 years ago...
History is some, but not much of a guide to future performance.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are ....
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7 day NHS" means. It has never been properly explained, and in particular how spreading staff thinner will improve things.
We have holes throughout our rota, recruitment from the EU has tailed off following Brexit, and now these strikes. I expect the strikes to peter out but lead to more staff quitting. This is not a good time to be ill. We are going to struggle with even existing staffing levels let alone expanded ones.
Oh bless the smiling Jemimas. Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
Wouldn't calling Georgia at midnight UK mean 1900 Eastern time, before the polls close?
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are up against a bunch of whining money-grabbers.
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
What is it to do with? That was my question. On its own merits, it makes no sense.
Yet you don't accept the obvious rational conclusion.
That this is tied up entirely with Hunt's ego and any other SoS would have shelved the contract. The so-called 7-day NHS, flawed or not, does not depend on it.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are ....
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7
Oh bless the smiling Jemimas. Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
That sort of attitude is why so many junior doctors quit. Some go abroad but an increasing number leave the profession entirely. Barely half of UK medical graduates are in one of these posts 2 years post graduation. Retention figures are terrible and getting worse.
Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.
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Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
If Trump wins Florida he can lose Virginia and still win
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are up against a bunch of whining money-grabbers.
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Junior doctor wages start at £22k, rising to£30k after a year then up to £45k after year 3. Additionally, they are paid for overtime and for inconvenience. If he is earning just £24k then he needs to speak to his manager because they aren't paying him correctly by your info. Also, a year at a low wage isn't the end of the world. I did mega hours (up to 80h per week) pumping out games early on in my career for a similar wage, it rose quite quickly after that. It's just part of the job.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
...
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
What is it to do with? That was my question. On its own merits, it makes no sense.
Yet you don't accept the obvious rational conclusion.
That this is tied up entirely with Hunt's ego and any other SoS would have shelved the contract. The so-called 7-day NHS, flawed or not, does not depend on it.
It is entirely tied up with Docs thinking that winning means reversing the inevitable result - the new contract.
Any minister would oppose them.
May has had no problems changing other policies. This has been maintained because it is the right thing to do. Shame the Docs don't get with the program.
Surges are easy when you don't stand in the previous election!
Not that easy, Mr D. If you don`t stand in one election, your organisation and campaigning capacity go to pot. But it certainly looks as though the Lib Dems are on the way back in Cornwall.
Whilst a latter day Trot or similar is the leader of the Labour Party, it will stay blue in Westminster elections.
Not necessarily, the Liberals won Truro in 1983 even when Labour were trounced by the Tories nationally
33 years ago...
History is some, but not much of a guide to future performance.
Farron is returning the Liberals to what they are best at, pavement politics, fighting seat by seat, they could well pick up a seat or 2 in Cornwall, which has a long Liberal tradition, if they pick the right candidate regardless of what happens nationally
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
...t.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7
Oh bless the smiling Jemimas. Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
That sort of attitude is why so many junior doctors quit. Some go abroad but an increasing number leave the profession entirely. Barely half of UK medical graduates are in one of these posts 2 years post graduation. Retention figures are terrible and getting worse.
Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.
Doing a job for those that pay you is abuse now, is it?
This is nothing more than a typical provider vs consumer battle, apart from a little complication in the form of dreadfully cumbersome administration of NHS careers. The Docs want to win, and are happy to cancel patients operations to protect their position.
I know I'm way behind the curve on this, but: Black Swan - worth reading, fully, skimming, or not?
All he does is repeat - in more turgid and long-winded prose - what he wrote in Fooled by Randomness. So, either skim read it, or (my preference) read Fooled by Randomness.
I know I'm way behind the curve on this, but: Black Swan - worth reading, fully, skimming, or not?
All he does is repeat - in more turgid and long-winded prose - what he wrote in Fooled by Randomness. So, either skim read it, or (my preference) read Fooled by Randomness.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are up against a bunch of whining money-grabbers.
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Junior doctor wages start at £22k, rising to£30k after a year then up to £45k after year 3. Additionally, they are paid for overtime and for inconvenience. If he is earning just £24k then he needs to speak to his manager because they aren't paying him correctly by your info. Also, a year at a low wage isn't the end of the world. I did mega hours (up to 80h per week) pumping out games early on in my career for a similar wage, it rose quite quickly after that. It's just part of the job.
It's a useful reality check that 24k is not, in the grand scheme of things, a "low wage".
I used to live next-door (well, in a block of flats, so underneath) a junior doctor who would grouch about the pay while heading off to ride her horse. Other people in the flats included cleaners and care workers on the minimum wage, but to be fair she never talked to them, so in comparison to her friends (all graduates and not all doctors) no doubt she felt hard done by. But I can't say I felt an awful lot of sympathy on the pay front - it was the hours worked, particularly the time she had to spend studying for the exams that would eventually see her become a consultant, that I could sympathise with.
Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
If Trump wins Florida he can lose Virginia and still win
Yes - but I said 'does well' - I didn't say 'win'. A good showing in Virginia puts the other swing-states into play that will declare a bit later. Michigan, Colorado, Wisconsin
Trumps major problem is that he cannot seem to make inroads in Pennsylvania.
I know I'm way behind the curve on this, but: Black Swan - worth reading, fully, skimming, or not?
All he does is repeat - in more turgid and long-winded prose - what he wrote in Fooled by Randomness. So, either skim read it, or (my preference) read Fooled by Randomness.
I remember reading it a few years ago ...it's not well written, was a real chore to get through...and I read a lot of academic papers so I know what turgid writing looks like!
Evening all. Just back from the Grangefield by-election here in Stockton on Tees. Labour lost the seat to the Tories by 118 votes.
Grangefield is a traditionally Tory ward where we took both seats off them in the Milliband surge of 2011. Kept both last year, then one councillor died a few months ago (a husband and wife team) with their daughter seeking to win his seat.
Campaign was strong, the councillors were very well liked and even picked up Tory votes (who obviously voted Tory in the GE), our ID saw our pledges increase on 2015. Tories played a very negative campaign which started to bite. And when it came to our GOT operation we saw a lot of pledges turn into non-voters and Tory nationally Labour locally go Tory.
Then we have the Corbyn factor. Came up quite a few times - Labour supporter, very positive about the surviving councillor, but would stay at home because of Corbyn. We need to retain our vote in Lab/Tory marginals. Corbyn is toxic for us in these seats. Which means we lose
Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
If Trump wins Florida he can lose Virginia and still win
Yes - but I said 'does well' - I didn't say 'win'. A good showing in Virginia puts the other swing-states into play that will declare a bit later. Michigan, Colorado, Wisconsin
Trumps major problem is that he cannot seem to make inroads in Pennsylvania.
Trump was just 3% behind in Pennsylvania with Emerson earlier this week, far closer than he has been in any recent Virginia poll
'Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.'
But it's OK for junior doctors to abuse patients.
That is not what they are doing. Indeed yours truly will be looking after the patients if thecstrikes go ahead. There is cover, and indeed higher level cover.
'Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.'
But it's OK for junior doctors to abuse patients.
That is not what they are doing. Indeed yours truly will be looking after the patients if thecstrikes go ahead. There is cover, and indeed higher level cover.
Not everything is covered, otherwise there wouldn't be cancellations.
God what a sexist. Men don't care about their kids. It's single sex train carriages again. Jezza - "Fire up the pink bus & send the little ladies a copy of my womens manifesto."
Britain Elects @britainelects @davies42g Don't think I've been called Blairite before. Tory, yes. EU funded, yes. UKIP front, yes. BBC biased, yes, but Blairite? No...
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
...t.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Yes, the base pay for a first year junior doctor is £24k - before all the overtime, extras etc.
By year 2, that is over £30k plus the extras
They do important, vital work and have trained long and hard for it.
But they had an agreement. The BMA was happy with it. They recommended it.
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7
Oh bless the smiling Jemimas. Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
That sort of attitude .
Doing a job for those that pay you is abuse now, is it?
This is nothing more than a typical provider vs consumer battle, apart from a little complication in the form of dreadfully cumbersome administration of NHS careers. The Docs want to win, and are happy to cancel patients operations to protect their position.
The NHS is abusing its position as employer, and losing staff in droves. That is not good for patients either.
We have to cancel a lot of patients already because of unfilled staff vacancies. Where is the PB outrage at that? Or the dozens of patients cancelled every week because there are no beds to be had in Leicester?
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
Not difficult to look impressive when you are up against a bunch of whining money-grabbers.
There is no point going back to the negotiating table with a group that will accept and recommend your proposals and then fail to sell them to their agitated membership.
The public are going to look at the offer of 10%+ pay increase with nearly 40% premium for night work and think - wow, I should be lucky.
Yes, doctors do vital work - but they are rewarded for it.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
Junior doctor wages start at £22k, rising to£30k after a year then up to £45k after year 3. Additionally, they are paid for overtime and for inconvenience. If he is earning just £24k then he needs to speak to his manager because they aren't paying him correctly by your info. Also, a year at a low wage isn't the end of the world. I did mega hours (up to 80h per week) pumping out games early on in my career for a similar wage, it rose quite quickly after that. It's just part of the job.
Exactly - I started on a low wage, worked all the hours I could. Took my profession's exams in my "spare time" and now earn a very nice salary.
You put the work in and hopefully the rewards follow.
Isn't Stockton the sort of place where back in the day there were more openly gays in the village than openly Tory ?
No, there's always been some Tories in Stockton - it's south of the coalfield and parts of the Borough are very pleasant. I don't know about this ward in particular though.
Theresa May looking very Thatcherite tonight vs junior doctors.
...t.
My nephew is currently on Night Shifts at A&E in a SE Town, responsible for overseeing 60-100 patients during a shift. He gets 24k a year.
It's not the money to be honest which is completely fucking shit for the stuff they have to do. It is the totally desperate position we put these young people in who have barely come out of Med School.
...
The government is imposing what was agreed - a huge pay increase and many of the extras protected or enhanced.
The public are seeing this now.
What is in this for the government, aside from bragging rights for Jeremy Hunt? For the Conservative Party, considered separately, it probably means a generation of doctors who would normally vote Tory, won't.
Fulfilling a manifesto pledge.
More importantly, reforming public services. They are not to be run for the providers, but for the consumers.
It's not a manifesto pledge. This has sod all to do with the seven day NHS.
What is it to do with then?
Do you think you have rumbled a secret plan to privatise the NHS. Another one? So soon? *innocent face*
One of the BMA JDC demands is an explanation of what a "7
Oh bless the smiling Jemimas. Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
That sort of attitude .
Doing a job for those that pay you is abuse now, is it?
This is nothing more than a typical provider vs consumer battle, apart from a little complication in the form of dreadfully cumbersome administration of NHS careers. The Docs want to win, and are happy to cancel patients operations to protect their position.
The NHS is abusing its position as employer, and losing staff in droves. That is not good for patients either.
We have to cancel a lot of patients already because of unfilled staff vacancies. Where is the PB outrage at that? Or the dozens of patients cancelled every week because there are no beds to be had in Leicester?
So piling on the pressure on an already struggling service is fine?
There is a difference between operational difficulties and deliberate industrial action. The public will see the difference.
God what a sexist. Men don't care about their kids. It's single sex train carriages again. Jezza - "Fire up the pink bus & send the little ladies a copy of my womens manifesto."
He should call for a ban on the discriminatory practice of women dressing expensively like Theresa May while men can rise to the top while wearing scruffy open-neck shirts like Corbyn. If they levelled the playing field and had a statutory cap on the cost of any clothes worn to the place of work, it would increase opportunities for all...
Now, where has that Tory 420 seat prediction got to?
England and Wales are already in the bag, Theresa May should only focus on Scotland and aim for the Tories to become the largest party in Scotland in 2020.
Now, where has that Tory 420 seat prediction got to?
England and Wales are already in the bag, Theresa May should only focus on Scotland and aim for the Tories to become the largest party in Scotland in 2020.
Isn't Stockton the sort of place where back in the day there were more openly gays in the village than openly Tory ?
No, there's always been some Tories in Stockton - it's south of the coalfield and parts of the Borough are very pleasant. I don't know about this ward in particular though.
I don't know why but I have a feeling this election campagn is going to be a tad dirty.
Trump adviser Roger Stone's involvement in dirty tricks stretches as far back as Nixon's CREEP in 1972, long before he set up the Brook Brothers Riot in 2000.
Now, where has that Tory 420 seat prediction got to?
England and Wales are already in the bag, Theresa May should only focus on Scotland and aim for the Tories to become the largest party in Scotland in 2020.
Master strategy that Osbo could only dream of....
Behave.
When Osborne became master strategist of the Tory party, the Tories had 40 fewer MPs in Scotland than Labour, after two general election campaigns, the Tories now have as many Scottish MPs as Labour.
Now, where has that Tory 420 seat prediction got to?
England and Wales are already in the bag, Theresa May should only focus on Scotland and aim for the Tories to become the largest party in Scotland in 2020.
Master strategy that Osbo could only dream of....
Behave.
When Osborne became master strategist of the Tory party, the Tories had 40 fewer MPs in Scotland than Labour, after two general election campaigns, the Tories now have as many Scottish MPs as Labour.
To emphasise the localness of local elections two of the candidates in the Pennington PC election lived in Efford Way and one lived in Corbin Court and one in Corbin Rd.
To emphasise the localness of local elections two of the candidates in the Pennington PC election lived in Efford Way and one lived in Corbin Court and one in Corbin Rd.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
Hadn't realised that the Tebbit chip had a super-pedant mode
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
Hadn't realised that the Tebbit chip had a super-pedant mode
Now, where has that Tory 420 seat prediction got to?
England and Wales are already in the bag, Theresa May should only focus on Scotland and aim for the Tories to become the largest party in Scotland in 2020.
Master strategy that Osbo could only dream of....
Behave.
When Osborne became master strategist of the Tory party, the Tories had 40 fewer MPs in Scotland than Labour, after two general election campaigns, the Tories now have as many Scottish MPs as Labour.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
how many football pitches is that?
Not sure, but the land area of New Zealand could be covered by a little over 12 billion London buses, approximately 65500 of which could also be used to seat all the New Zealanders.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
But probably enough to appreciably lengthen Big_G_NorthWales's wait for his hernia operation.
Interesting to see a May intervention about the Docs strikes on telly - I wonder if she has seen at first hand how Cameron (and Blair) overdid the PR 'trust me to resolve this' peice to camera and realised that it works better the less it is used.
Interesting to see that even the BBC are highlighting the significance of the five day strike..
Headlines in the papers are bad for the doctors with even the Guardian expressing concern and highlighting how the doctors are at war with each other.
Irrespective of the dispute how can any doctor agree to such recklessness with peoples lives. My wife is furious with them and cannot even start to comprehend how callous they have become.
I am waiting for surgery on a bilateral hernia and am unlikely to receive treatment for six months here in Wales and understand that NHS Wales are using the private sector to try to stem the lengthening waiting lists.
This is not going to end well for the doctors if they do not call off this ill advised and highly political action
How, exactly, is it not going to end well for the doctors? Why do you think the waiting lists are lengthening? What do you think will happen to the waiting lists if fed up doctors piss off to New Zealand?
New Zealand has a population about the size of Wales. They can't all go there.
New Zealand's population is about 50% bigger than Wales. 4.5 million v. 3 million
how many football pitches is that?
Not sure, but the land area of New Zealand could be covered by a little over 12 billion London buses, approximately 65500 of which could also be used to seat all the New Zealanders.
at last! now I understand
Now that Brexit has freed us from the shackles of metricness and, er.. cardinal numbers, the people shall be free to count in waleses, football pitches and double deckers, pound shillings, sheckels, groats and bent referees. What a relief!
hang on, is that american billions or british ones. I'm confused again
No, I have never played Backgammon. A quick google - seems complicated.
I learned to play Mahjong solitaire quite recently though.
Backgammon is to dice games what poker is to card games. Yes, there is chance, but it's all about calculating the odds and adjusting them as new data (new rolls of the dice) comes in.
No, I have never played Backgammon. A quick google - seems complicated.
I learned to play Mahjong solitaire quite recently though.
Backgammon is to dice games what poker is to card games. Yes, there is chance, but it's all about calculating the odds and adjusting them as new data (new rolls of the dice) comes in.
Utter tripe. Poker is about psychology and bluffing. Backgammon is just boring old probabilities.
No, I have never played Backgammon. A quick google - seems complicated.
I learned to play Mahjong solitaire quite recently though.
Backgammon is to dice games what poker is to card games. Yes, there is chance, but it's all about calculating the odds and adjusting them as new data (new rolls of the dice) comes in.
Utter tripe. Poker is about psychology and bluffing. Backgammon is just boring old probabilities.
The psychology and the bluffing are built on the probabilities.
No, I have never played Backgammon. A quick google - seems complicated.
I learned to play Mahjong solitaire quite recently though.
Backgammon is to dice games what poker is to card games. Yes, there is chance, but it's all about calculating the odds and adjusting them as new data (new rolls of the dice) comes in.
Utter tripe. Poker is about psychology and bluffing. Backgammon is just boring old probabilities.
The psychology and the bluffing are built on the probabilities.
While backgammon is merely probabilities.
Edit: It's glorified snakes and ladders, in essence.
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http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G16/closing.phtml?format=gc
Indiana and Kentucky may be called at 11.00pm and the only question should be Trump's margin of victory.
Problems occur in that many states are in two time zones - for instance part of Florida (the panhandle which leans republican) closes an hour after most of the rest. No doubt the TV stations will call Florida (with Georgia, Virginia, South Carolina and Vermont) at Midnight UK time.
Unless Trump wins Florida and has sound victories in Georgia, South Carolina and does well in Virginia you can all have an early night.
If Florida is TCTC then you'd better put the kettle on.
Me: *watching* What the hell is the point of th- OH MY GOD https://t.co/DtcxGID0L6
We have holes throughout our rota, recruitment from the EU has tailed off following Brexit, and now these strikes. I expect the strikes to peter out but lead to more staff quitting. This is not a good time to be ill. We are going to struggle with even existing staffing levels let alone expanded ones.
History is some, but not much of a guide to future performance.
Apparently that was a SpaceX Facebook satellite...
Demands?
How about they do their job and are paid for it, rather than striking.
Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.
Any minister would oppose them.
May has had no problems changing other policies. This has been maintained because it is the right thing to do. Shame the Docs don't get with the program.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8dTefQftAI
This is nothing more than a typical provider vs consumer battle, apart from a little complication in the form of dreadfully cumbersome administration of NHS careers. The Docs want to win, and are happy to cancel patients operations to protect their position.
I'm all for early morning drinkies instead
'Abusing staff is rarely the best way of getting good work out of them.'
But it's OK for junior doctors to abuse patients.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom
And in particular...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/UK_Income_by_Age_and_Gender.png
I used to live next-door (well, in a block of flats, so underneath) a junior doctor who would grouch about the pay while heading off to ride her horse. Other people in the flats included cleaners and care workers on the minimum wage, but to be fair she never talked to them, so in comparison to her friends (all graduates and not all doctors) no doubt she felt hard done by. But I can't say I felt an awful lot of sympathy on the pay front - it was the hours worked, particularly the time she had to spend studying for the exams that would eventually see her become a consultant, that I could sympathise with.
Trumps major problem is that he cannot seem to make inroads in Pennsylvania.
Grangefield is a traditionally Tory ward where we took both seats off them in the Milliband surge of 2011. Kept both last year, then one councillor died a few months ago (a husband and wife team) with their daughter seeking to win his seat.
Campaign was strong, the councillors were very well liked and even picked up Tory votes (who obviously voted Tory in the GE), our ID saw our pledges increase on 2015. Tories played a very negative campaign which started to bite. And when it came to our GOT operation we saw a lot of pledges turn into non-voters and Tory nationally Labour locally go Tory.
Then we have the Corbyn factor. Came up quite a few times - Labour supporter, very positive about the surviving councillor, but would stay at home because of Corbyn. We need to retain our vote in Lab/Tory marginals. Corbyn is toxic for us in these seats. Which means we lose
A phalanx of Momentum Minders outside every place of employment? Guards outside pubs ensuring only non-workers are allowed in?
The man is mad
@davies42g Don't think I've been called Blairite before. Tory, yes. EU funded, yes. UKIP front, yes. BBC biased, yes, but Blairite? No...
He doesn't quite get irony, or hypocrisy, does he?
We have to cancel a lot of patients already because of unfilled staff vacancies. Where is the PB outrage at that? Or the dozens of patients cancelled every week because there are no beds to be had in Leicester?
Or is it Yorkshire........
Too high: 70%
Too low: 2%
About right: 20%
I think it is pretty clear why he got 2 x E's at a-level, he is as thick as shit.
@_hanimustafa @britainelects picking out individual council seats is dumb, some are 20% gains for Labour
You put the work in and hopefully the rewards follow.
Con gain Bootle at this rate.
There is a difference between operational difficulties and deliberate industrial action. The public will see the difference.
When Osborne became master strategist of the Tory party, the Tories had 40 fewer MPs in Scotland than Labour, after two general election campaigns, the Tories now have as many Scottish MPs as Labour.
Amazing.
The Daily Mail alleged that Mrs Trump had worked as a part-time escort in New York, and had met husband Donald Trump, who is now running for the White House, earlier than previously reported.
Wales 3,063,456 in 2011
NZ 4,242,048 in 2013
Now that Brexit has freed us from the shackles of metricness and, er.. cardinal numbers, the people shall be free to count in waleses, football pitches and double deckers, pound shillings, sheckels, groats and bent referees. What a relief!
hang on, is that american billions or british ones. I'm confused again
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2100101-how-winning-at-cards-can-help-you-win-at-life/
Edit: It's glorified snakes and ladders, in essence.
"Senior Doctors Condemn Strikes By Junior Colleagues
Britain's top medics attack plans by junior colleagues to stage a series of five-day strikes, describing them as disproportionate."
http://news.sky.com/story/junior-doctors-announce-15-more-days-of-strikes-10561762