I've yet to encounter anyone over here who can explain WHY they would support Trump. It's all well and good doing a bit of trolling but let's have some argument and discussion.
Why and in what ways would Donald Trump be a better POTUS not just for America but for the rest of the world than HRC ?
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
Nissan may quit UK over euro Nissan's president chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, has repeated warnings that its Sunderland plant could lose production of one of its most important cars if Britain remains outside the euro.
Just think, he could have been leading the Scottish team.
Its a crying shame
Morning Malc.
Seems to be a turnip-free zone on here just lately - Excluding Anti-Franks thread header last night.
Have all the rich PB'ers gone on holiday?
Morning Gin, they will have gone to their estates in the sun for the school holidays. You are correct that it has not been as interesting lately but on ebonus is many of teh swivel eyed ones would appear to be in Benidorm or similar so overall more pleasant.
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
Nissan may quit UK over euro Nissan's president chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, has repeated warnings that its Sunderland plant could lose production of one of its most important cars if Britain remains outside the euro.
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
Nissan may quit UK over euro Nissan's president chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, has repeated warnings that its Sunderland plant could lose production of one of its most important cars if Britain remains outside the euro.
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
Nissan may quit UK over euro Nissan's president chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, has repeated warnings that its Sunderland plant could lose production of one of its most important cars if Britain remains outside the euro.
Leaving behind a £2bn investment, and choosing to prioritise investment in other Nissan plants are two totally different things.
Being, shall we say, 'unreliable' over the future of Nissan investment in the UK may be the same things......
But, uncertainty over this is the killer. A pound of investment that goes to the Spanish plant rather than the British one never comes back.
Do you recall that argument being made over the UK joining the Euro? By a Nissan chap.....name escapes me......
I can't believe I'm having this argument with you.
Right now, the management of Nissan does not know if Britain the EU will have a free trade agreement. The EU/EEA car market is 5x the size of the UK one. Until they know what relationship the UK will have with EU, of course they will hold off on investment decisions.
Which line of that argument do you find contentious?
The cheapest rental areas in the country as a proportion of pay:
Copeland 62% L Derby 57% L Fylde 57% L Barrow 61% L N Lincolnshire 66% L Selby 59% L Darlington 56% L Hartlepool 70% L Amber Valley 60% L West Lindsey 62% L
and the most expensive:
Kensington 69% R Westminster 69% R City 75% R Camden 75% R Islington 75% R Hackney 79% R Tower Hamlets 68% R Hammersmith 70% R Lambeth 79% R Southwark 73% R
Also:
‘ ◾The most expensive places to rent a room in the South East are large parts of Surrey, Oxfordshire and Tunbridge Wells in Kent
◾Renting a one bedroom property in the South East would be impossible within recommended limits everywhere except Medway, Hastings, Rother, Gosport, Dover, Shepway, Thanet and the Isle of Wight ‘
'Those Daily Mail reports on the Russell Square attack are pretty devastating.
Recall how desperate everyone was - including some on here - to rule out terrorism/radicalisation. The Met practically ruled it out during the attack, while still managing to diagnose the knifeman as a Type 3 Paranoid Insomniac with Diabetes just by "looking" at him.
Then we had TSE and Toryjim on here repeating it was a "chubby white guy", "remember the Glasgow bin man", like stereophonical morons.
Then it slowly emerged that he was not "a chubby white guy", he was a Somali. He was a Muslim. He was foreign born. Now we see that he was devout Muslim, very religious, possibly radicalised by his peers.
Feck this. We are being lied to by the police. There is a broad and studied effort to deny terror elements to these attacks, at all costs - to overtly lie to the people - until the lies are unsustainable and the truth must be faced - by which time the authorities hope all focus will have shifted. '
They really think people can't see through the lies & bullshit.
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
Nissan may quit UK over euro Nissan's president chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, has repeated warnings that its Sunderland plant could lose production of one of its most important cars if Britain remains outside the euro.
Leaving behind a £2bn investment, and choosing to prioritise investment in other Nissan plants are two totally different things.
Being, shall we say, 'unreliable' over the future of Nissan investment in the UK may be the same things......
But, uncertainty over this is the killer. A pound of investment that goes to the Spanish plant rather than the British one never comes back.
Do you recall that argument being made over the UK joining the Euro? By a Nissan chap.....name escapes me......
I can't believe I'm having this argument with you.
Right now, the management of Nissan does not know if Britain the EU will have a free trade agreement. The EU/EEA car market is 5x the size of the UK one. Until they know what relationship the UK will have with EU, of course they will hold off on investment decisions.
Which line of that argument do you find contentious?
In the case of the Euro we were members of the Single Market. Not the same thing, as you say.
"Any opportunities to produce new Nissan models will be given to non-UK plants until a trade deal is ironed out - too much uncertainty. Cue redundancies in Sunderland. No more EU regional funding - the Government can't even bring itself to give us a decent railway system and dual carriageways, they won't match what the EU has invested."
This is why we need an outline agreement asap. The longer uncertainty lasts, the more damage there will be.
If there were significant redundancies at the Sunderland plant, things could get quite ugly up there. It is also worth remembering that the automobile industry - because components go from country to country - would be the business most negatively impacted by a WTO outcome.
The workers who voted leave deserve zero sympathy it happens. They can't say they weren't warned.
The cheapest rental areas in the country as a proportion of pay:
Copeland 62% L Derby 57% L Fylde 57% L Barrow 61% L N Lincolnshire 66% L Selby 59% L Darlington 56% L Hartlepool 70% L Amber Valley 60% L West Lindsey 62% L
and the most expensive:
Kensington 69% R Westminster 69% R City 75% R Camden 75% R Islington 75% R Hackney 79% R Tower Hamlets 68% R Hammersmith 70% R Lambeth 79% R Southwark 73% R
Also:
‘ ◾The most expensive places to rent a room in the South East are large parts of Surrey, Oxfordshire and Tunbridge Wells in Kent
◾Renting a one bedroom property in the South East would be impossible within recommended limits everywhere except Medway, Hastings, Rother, Gosport, Dover, Shepway, Thanet and the Isle of Wight ‘
Comments
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/may/11/carindustry.motoring1
Does the expression 'heard it all before' ring any bells?
Why and in what ways would Donald Trump be a better POTUS not just for America but for the rest of the world than HRC ?
But, uncertainty over this is the killer. A pound of investment that goes to the Spanish plant rather than the British one never comes back.
Right now, the management of Nissan does not know if Britain the EU will have a free trade agreement. The EU/EEA car market is 5x the size of the UK one. Until they know what relationship the UK will have with EU, of course they will hold off on investment decisions.
Which line of that argument do you find contentious?
'Those Daily Mail reports on the Russell Square attack are pretty devastating.
Recall how desperate everyone was - including some on here - to rule out terrorism/radicalisation. The Met practically ruled it out during the attack, while still managing to diagnose the knifeman as a Type 3 Paranoid Insomniac with Diabetes just by "looking" at him.
Then we had TSE and Toryjim on here repeating it was a "chubby white guy", "remember the Glasgow bin man", like stereophonical morons.
Then it slowly emerged that he was not "a chubby white guy", he was a Somali. He was a Muslim. He was foreign born. Now we see that he was devout Muslim, very religious, possibly radicalised by his peers.
Feck this. We are being lied to by the police. There is a broad and studied effort to deny terror elements to these attacks, at all costs - to overtly lie to the people - until the lies are unsustainable and the truth must be faced - by which time the authorities hope all focus will have shifted. '
They really think people can't see through the lies & bullshit.