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One of my underlying assumptions about any attempt to defenestrate Corbyn was that Corbyn would automatically be on the ballot in the subesquent contest, but judging by events this morning, that assumption might well be wrong.
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I hope he is on the ballot and that he loses. It would save the Labour Party and would be what he deserves.
If only Cameron read this book he would have seen this coming.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682742/May-s-aide-hints-second-referendum-Former-Attorney-General-says-People-change-mind-not-writ-stone.html
Looks like the Tories have got to give the leadership to Andrea because Theresa cant be trusted.
Pity.
Mr Grieve told the BBC that 'as a parliamentarian and a democrat, I have to accept the verdict of the referendum' and that a Tory Government was under an obligation to 'try to give effect' to it
"Where there is no vacancy, nominations may be sought by potential challengers each year prior to the annual session of Party conference. In this case any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the combined Commons members of the PLP and members of the EPLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void."
You can read all the rules here:
http://www.leftfutures.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Rule-Book-2016.pdf
Nomination
i.
In the case of a vacancy for leader or deputy
leader, each nomination must be supported
by 15 per cent of the combined Commons
members of the PLP and members of the
EPLP. Nominations not attaining this
threshold shall be null and void.
ii.
Where there is no vacancy, nominations may
be sought by potential challengers each year
prior to the annual session of Party
conference. In this case any nomination must
be supported by 20 per cent of the combined
Commons members of the PLP and members
of the EPLP. Nominations not attaining this
threshold shall be null and void.
A ridiculous party that should be put out of its misery.
And he has an overwhelmingly strong case. The courts would be going out on a limb to side with plotters within one of the great political parties.
On the discriminatory point, surely a contest only exists once a challenge is in? But there must also be a deadline on when challenges must be in by in order to be voted on at conference? If so, then a challenger has as long as he or she wants to put his or her nominations together whereas a leader would only have the time from the submission of the challenge until the deadline, which might be a matter of minutes if the challenger so chose. Such a situation would clearly be discriminatory unless the leader didn't need the nominations in the first place.
Interesting logic.
A new NEC is being elected right now by members.
Those who say the leader cannot be on the ballot will lose their seats IMO
That was my reading. However, the idea that the incumbent does not require nominations is implied, rather than being made explicit. Bring on the lawyers.
My reading of that would be then that the 'nominations' refer to potential challengers and not to the current leader.
Also is there confirmation that Corbyn resigning and then standing to fill the vacancy (to benefit from a lower 15% threshold) is not acceptable?
If the plotters are successful in keeping Corbyn off the ballot- it would suggest that his conciliatory strategy on de-selections was a big mistake.
The Labour constitution says that the Leader of the Party is, ex officio, the Leader of the PLP.
The PLP can't create a vacancy in the position of the leader of the PLP - it's not an elected post. And they can't, on their own, create a vacancy in the position of the leader of the Party
"Where there is no vacancy, nominations may be sought by potential challengers each year prior to the annual session of Party conference."
But don't bother replying. You spend hours spinning yourself about abstract points of law and invariably get them wrong, so I'm not going to waste my time
What crap are you talking ? Just say you meant only the "white bit" of the Commonwealth and we will all understand what you really wanted to say.
India rugby team:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_national_rugby_union_team.
No I dont mean just the white commonwealth although in practice free movement would be thus limited to avoid the same problem we have with Eastern Europe at the moment, until such time as other members are as wealthy so unbalanced movement would not occur.
No reason why we cant have free trade and free movement for all who can demonstate a certain level of wealth so as to be able to support themselves with India S.A. etc
The commonwealth isnt a one size fits all organisation like the EU.
"There shall be a leader and deputy leader of the Party who shall, ex-officio, be leader and deputy leader of the PLP." (p. 4)
Being leader gives the person the leadership of PLP by virtue of being leader (ex-officio).
I can't see anything about confidence.
That would be nonsense since the incumbent would clearly remain in post. Corbyn doesn't need nominations. The only way to keep him off the ballot is with a deal.
However, the idea that we're without a government is overblown. The Civil Service will be servicing away; it's a flywheel that will do fine without ministers floundering about, at least for a little while.
Their case to the voters is then... we tried very hard to prevent you from having your say on Corbyn... but having failed- please listen to us?
https://twitter.com/DavidAllenGreen
@iainmartin1: A pro-Brexit Tory MP tells me that Leadsom's backers see the chance to "re-run the IDS leadership which was cruelly curtailed"... Well...
Government, like business, isn't really a complete adhocracy (though plans & priorities can and do change between spending rounds). If I were to be unkind, ministers are just there to occasionally keep the plates spinning.
If, as I suspect, the EFTA rules are enough then the issue will fade away. If not then we can re-evaluate in a few years
I’m sure Corbyn knows the rule book backwards, I’m yet to be convinced that the NEC will interoperate them in a way that blocks a party leader’s right to be included automatically on the leadership ballot. – However, stranger things have happened in the past when Labour lays down with lawyers, demonstrating manifesto promises were mere guff was perhaps the highlight of Blair’s time in office.
It's a new one on me. A Lisbon expert about?