Gisela Stuart MP @GiselaStuart 2h2 hours ago #Speaker granted my urgent question on "legal status of EU nationals" at 3.30 this afternoon
You have to be kidding me!! She wouldn't need to be doing this if she hadn't campaigned on a pack of lies and got the public to back her mad idea to leave the EU.
Another one in favour of conceding negotiating points before we start negotiating?
They really haven't thought this through, have they?
Amateur hour.....
Rather than Ministers give answers, it should be her. Question: "Gisela, what should be the legal status of EU Nationals ?"
Thanks, Andrea. Worth noting that a month or two ago, the centre-right were saying they were doing unusually well in NEC nominations. That seems on these figures to be entirely wrong.
Anecdotally, I've been chatting to a few (four) members about a possible Corbyn-Eagle election. Three were vehemently pro-Corbyn, the fourth would have benn up for an alternative, but not Eagle because of Iraq.
I've also come across the same reaction regarding Eagle, Nick. It is bizarre how the hard left use Iraq and latter Syria to define a socialist, but that's the infantile level of debate we've been reduced to. Owen Smith would be better because he comes without the baggage, and Eagle should realise that but she clearly doesn't judging from her comments today. I only hope that both put their names forward, that Eagle gets the fewer nominations and then withdraws.
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Huw Merriman is the only Tory MP who failed to declare a referendum voting intention and has also not declared for a leadership candidate. Clearly fancies his leadership chances next time around and is keeping his powder dry. Either that or he's completely pointless!
Huw Merriman is the only Tory MP who failed to declare a referendum voting intention and has also not declared for a leadership candidate. Clearly fancies his leadership chances next time around and is keeping his powder dry. Either that or he's completely pointless!
Huw Merriman is the only Tory MP who failed to declare a referendum voting intention and has also not declared for a leadership candidate. Clearly fancies his leadership chances next time around and is keeping his powder dry. Either that or he's completely pointless!
He's a smart cookie. One to watch.
Edit: He handled the referendum very well. He chaired a series of constituency debates on the subject, and argued that he didn't want to compromise his neutrality in those debates by taking a side.
I haven't spoken to him recently, but I'd be gobsmacked if he's not backing Theresa May.
The new incarnation of Top Gear didn't last long did it.
The new lead presenter didn't at least.
I think it will return, and if they can just get away from just trying to ape the old Clarkson et al format, I think a reasonably good programme can emerge from the wreckage, without Evans. The last couple of episodes were improving, it was in a way starting to find its feet a bit.
I always felt that, despite the hype, burying this relaunch series in the summer months and up against Euro2016 was done to "test it out" and give them an excuse for poor ratings.
The PT is still the PT. But next door is the (Jazz) Cellar (either that or the Cellar moved next door). The PT is more directly affiliated with the Union, but they share a building...
Ah. It was a Davy's in my day.
The Cellar is the club next door that has nowt to do with the Union.
I doubt that the Turtle was called the Turtle when Gove was there - the first one opened in Reading in 1990.
It was still the Cellar Bar in my (post Mensch) days
"Malcolm Turnbull's Coalition Government is facing a desperate fight to hang on to a majority in Parliament. On the count so far it has won at least 68 seats, eight fewer than the 76 needed to command a majority in the Lower House. While Bill Shorten and Labor also look set to fall short of being able to form a majority government, they have staged an amazing comeback that has again highlighted the volatility of modern Australian politics."
BTW in Newham apparently Vote Leave had 200 (!) volunteers turn up at the campaign centre on the day of the vote which might help explain why the result was so different to Tower Hamlets, if this was consistent throughout the campaign then that is a lot of foot soldiers.
As to why Newham had so many willing volunteers? No idea?
The free entry, student nightclub for Union members. Back in the 1960s, Michael Heseltine (as Union President) converted the Union's coal cellars into a downstairs Cellar Bar. During the 1980s, half the cellars were leased off. Since October 1998, the Union Cellars are now re-joined, and relaunched as the 'Purple Turtle Union Bar'.
Right, so maybe once the lease expired they moved in next door.
Not sure, as that would suggest the PT (as now) contains the leased off cellars. The Cellar is nearer the front of that alleyway.
I DJ'ed at both and have had a root around the backrooms. If they were ever joined, it's not obvious.
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
IIRC thus far, of all the Conservative members posting here, is Plato the only one to declare for Leadsom with May capturing literally every one else? Can't recall that Gove, Crabb and Fox have attracted any votes. It's a sign I tell you....
I think @TCPoliticalBetting is undecided and doesn't trust May to deliver on free movement.
Oh, I hadn't realised that TC was a member: had assumed, presumably incorrectly that she/he was a kipper.
JohnO, a member from 2005 - which is quite a time these days. Mrs May has not set out any new plan for addressing the free movement of labour into unskilled jobs, even though she has the full inside knowledge of the systems and options. I have consistently cut her some slack for the problems Osborne has caused her in delivering tighter border controls due to his budget cuts and Osborne's opposition to controls on immigrant labour. Also I give her allowance for the effects of the EU. But as a prospective PM she is now free of all those factors and where is her Plan? Only silence.
Thanks but you're a mere stripling in membership terms. 2005? I joined in 1975 and still going strong and probably, at 60, a "young" Conservative!
It cancelled out the change happened this morning with the election unopposed of the 3 backbenchers' reps on the NEC. Beckett and Mahmood were re-elected but Skinner didn't stand and his place went to George Howarth.
The free entry, student nightclub for Union members. Back in the 1960s, Michael Heseltine (as Union President) converted the Union's coal cellars into a downstairs Cellar Bar. During the 1980s, half the cellars were leased off. Since October 1998, the Union Cellars are now re-joined, and relaunched as the 'Purple Turtle Union Bar'.
Right, so maybe once the lease expired they moved in next door.
Not sure, as that would suggest the PT (as now) contains the leased off cellars. The Cellar is nearer the front of that alleyway.
I DJ'ed at both and have had a root around the backrooms. If they were ever joined, it's not obvious.
I gave a New Orleans Funeral Party there in around 1973!
"The Conservative party is choosing our next Prime Minister"
Totally agree Alastair, been saying exactly that elsewhere, the Conservative party doesn't have the luxury of seeing this contest through the prism of one issue!
Gisela Stuart MP @GiselaStuart 2h2 hours ago #Speaker granted my urgent question on "legal status of EU nationals" at 3.30 this afternoon
You have to be kidding me!! She wouldn't need to be doing this if she hadn't campaigned on a pack of lies and got the public to back her mad idea to leave the EU.
Why aren't the PLP prepared to take a 2020 loss on the chin. The Lib Dems were utterly battered in 2015, but the conduct in taking the beating was quite admirable.
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Why? Both have views fully in touch with the membership of their respective parties. Obviously, Leadsom has the advantage that her views are also in touch with the general public's. It is only a few bitter Remainers that have a visceral dislike for her. I look forward to seeing how focus groups react.
Trickett goes to the NEC replacing Angela Eagle as one of the Frontbench Reps
Good news for Corbyn, less good for the plotters.
Not necessarily. I don't think the legal opinion that Corbyn can be kept off the ballot will hold up to any legal challenge, and the attempt to deny members a ballot would undoubtably get a lot of uncommitted Labour members' backs up prior to the time when the NEC would be forced to back down and run a contest with Corbyn on the ballot. Far better then for the challenger's prospects for Corbyn to be on the ballot through the initial decision of the NEC.
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Who are Leadsom's followers? The 17 million who voted Leave?
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Who are Leadsom's followers? The 17 million who voted Leave?
Gove – a gossipy backstabber who treats the UK like an Oxford debating society
Leadsom – a Platoite far right frother funded by Ukip who was a europhile until 2013
Crabb – a bible basher who thinks homosexuality is a disease that can be cured
Fox – Liam Fox, Fox, Fox
May – a teetotal 60-year-old lady with bags of experience who spends her holidays hill walking with her husband
Now let me think.
May's a teetotallet because of her diabetes you muppet. It's hard enough to control blood sugar without drinking..
Has she said she's teetotal - or just doesn't spend her time in the Westminster bars?
She wasn't teetotal at University
U knew May! What were her politics then?
She was also there in my time. Conservative but her energies were more directed at the Oxford Union. To be a bit bitchy (oh, why not) she was not a memorable speaker!
PS I wonder if Carlotta and I knew each other then....we appear to have moved at least in some similar circles!
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
Why aren't the PLP prepared to take a 2020 loss on the chin. The Lib Dems were utterly battered in 2015, but the conduct in taking the beating was quite admirable.
Its touching to listen to MPs so concerned about the rights of EU citizens in Britain, but not much fussed about the rights of UK citizens living in Europe......
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Who are Leadsom's followers? The 17 million who voted Leave?
She was also there in my time. Conservative but her energies were more directed at the Oxford Union. To be a bit bitchy (oh, why not) she was not a memorable speaker!
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
Negotiating position be damned, I think this is an awful position to take. We had all manner of hand wringing about immigrants feeling unwanted, and now we're putting them all into some ghastly limbo? Fuck me, what is wrong with this country's moral compass?
If any of the European countries start pissing around, we can revisit the issue. I think I'm correct in saying that only Spain has more Brits than vice versa, France is a wash, and we have more of theirs vs ours in every other EU country. I'll have a dig and check.
*edit Cyprus has more Brits than we have Cypriots, Finland is a wash*
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Who are Leadsom's followers? The 17 million who voted Leave?
The gist of the UQ appears to be that we should abandon British citizens currently resident in the EU to their fate
A Labour MP has finally raised the question about Brits abroad.....most of the time its been LEAVErs complaining about the mess they've helped create......
Hmm, just been reading more about Leadsom, doesn't deny she is trying to win over UKIP supporters but also claims she can win over Labour ones too. Sounds like she is trying to build a "movement" much the same as our much derided leader of the opposition.
Leadsom and Corbyn would be better off starting their own party together, taking their deranged followers with them
Who are Leadsom's followers? The 17 million who voted Leave?
No.
The 36,600 who voted for her in 2015?
No.
The 130,000 Conservative Party members who are shortly going to vote for her in the Con leadership election?
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
I had hoped that Gove would have proposed acting as caretaker immediately after DC announced his departure. It would have given the "inexperienced" a chance to have a proper run in the cabinet to prove their mettle.
That being said, I'm not buying into the story that you can't be PM unless you've had a 4 year internship as leader of the opposition, or in one of the great offices of state. Worth remembering that the current incumbent of the oval office had no executive experience prior to running for President!
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
Don't waste your money. The members in the shires wont vote for a double rat with Lady MacBeth as a wife, But DYOR.
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
Don't waste your money. The members in the shires wont vote for a double rat with Lady MacBeth as a wife, But DYOR.
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
I had hoped that Gove would have proposed acting as caretaker immediately after DC announced his departure. It would have given the "inexperienced" a chance to have a proper run in the cabinet to prove their mettle.
That being said, I'm not buying into the story that you can't be PM unless you've had a 4 year internship as leader of the opposition, or in one of the great offices of state. Worth remembering that the current incumbent of the oval office had no executive experience prior to running for President!
Mr. JS, I guess they'll give Top Gear one more shot.
The format's fine and it could work (albeit less successfully than before) with new presenters, but having seven (including Stig) was stupid and having Evans as the lead was not necessarily an intelligent decision either.
Stuart seems to be suffering some kind of 'buyer's remorse". Suddenly the welfare of EU migrants is all of her biggest concern. I did say her demeanour seemed very bizarre throughout the campaign, as someone in a clear conflict or crisis ; simultaneously highly emotional and very disconnected.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
I thought everyone on all sides agreed that existing residents' rights were protected by some convention or other. It isn't Labour Leave that is trying to backslide now, just the Nasty Party.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
All the Leave spokespeople have said current EU migrants should be able to stay here.
The only voices against have been Mr Hammond, and Ms May.
Yes because they want to ensure the EU gives UK citizens in the EU the same rights before confirming.
Really don't think it's necessary. There are ~1.2 million Brits in the EU and ~3.2 million EU citizens here. As we want an amicable divorce, I think it sets the wrong tone from the outset.
Regarding Farage, when was the last time someone achieved something so momentous in British politics without being a member of Parliament? Maybe you could cite Shirley Williams and Roy Jenkins helping to set up the SDP in 1981 while out of the Commons, although the other two members of the Gang of Four were MPs.
I am perplexed by the view EU citizens here should have rights guaranteed unilaterally, without a corresponding guarantee in place for UK citizens in the EU.
Crabb is by far the weakest candidate for the Tories. Ludicrous presumption on his part. I suspect he puts the ability to tie his shoelaces on his CV - I can't see anything else of merit there.
Labour's candidates are all quite poor - and the best of them seem to be totally sidelined.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
All the Leave spokespeople have said current EU migrants should be able to stay here.
The only voices against have been Mr Hammond, and Ms May.
Yes because they want to ensure the EU gives UK citizens in the EU the same rights before confirming.
Really don't think it's necessary. There are ~1.2 million Brits in the EU and ~3.2 million EU citizens here. As we want an amicable divorce, I think it sets the wrong tone from the outset.
lol, the wrong tone was set by Farage at the European Parliament last week.
The European leaders are grown ups, they will see a negotiating tactic and not take it personally.
Gove surely has to be value at 15/1 with Betfair. If he gets into the last three (and he almost certainly will) he's bound to come down to about half of that at least.
I have to disagree Andy. I think Gove will go out without ever looking like winning, whether it is on the first or second ballot or by withdrawing.
Gove would have shaken things up if he had said that he was standing until early 2019 only, in order to have an extended beauty parade for his successor. In the meantime, he would get on with Brexit.... He probably would still have been stuffed by knifing Boris, but it would at least have looked less self-serving.
Worth remembering that the current incumbent of the oval office had no executive experience prior to running for President!
I am perplexed by the view EU citizens here should have rights guaranteed unilaterally, without a corresponding guarantee in place for UK citizens in the EU.
It's bizarre - as one MP rather tartly observed its a bit rich hearing all the BREXITeer's crocodile tears to the consequences of their win......
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
All the Leave spokespeople have said current EU migrants should be able to stay here.
The only voices against have been Mr Hammond, and Ms May.
Yes because they want to ensure the EU gives UK citizens in the EU the same rights before confirming.
Really don't think it's necessary. There are ~1.2 million Brits in the EU and ~3.2 million EU citizens here. As we want an amicable divorce, I think it sets the wrong tone from the outset.
lol, the wrong tone was set by Farage at the European Parliament last week.
The European leaders are grown ups, they will see a negotiating tactic and not take it personally.
Fuck the European leaders. What about the people? Are we seriously prepared to deport people? It's complete bollocks, and, as a second order effect, a gift for all the whiny, grieving remainers to get their knickers in a twist over.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
I thought everyone on all sides agreed that existing residents' rights were protected by some convention or other. It isn't Labour Leave that is trying to backslide now, just the Nasty Party.
I think you'll find that it is only the REMAIN supporting wing of the Conservatives that is refusing to rule out mass repatriation.
The LEAVE wing of the party was clear that everyone should stay in advance of the referendum, and they are sticking to that line now.
Stuart seems to be suffering some kind of 'buyer's remorse". Suddenly the welfare of EU migrants is all of her biggest concern. I did say her demeanour seemed very bizarre throughout the campaign, as someone in a clear conflict or crisis ; simultaneously highly emotional and very disconnected.
Yep, as I said early, she wouldn't need to be worrying about this if she hadn't lied our way out of the EU. Don't forget she happily sat on the bus with £350m for the NHS on the side and smiled sweetly as Boris and co rambled on about Turkey.
I am perplexed by the view EU citizens here should have rights guaranteed unilaterally, without a corresponding guarantee in place for UK citizens in the EU.
A holding statement (nothing's changed for now and we hope a reciprocal arrangement can be negotiated) is fine. Guaranteeing rights for foreign citizens when ours have no corresponding guarantee is just stupid.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
I thought everyone on all sides agreed that existing residents' rights were protected by some convention or other. It isn't Labour Leave that is trying to backslide now, just the Nasty Party.
I think you'll find that it is only the REMAIN supporting wing of the Conservatives that is refusing to rule out mass repatriation.
The LEAVE wing of the party was clear that everyone should stay in advance of the referendum, and they are sticking to that line now.
Because their position was that we get to leave the EU but everything else stays the same. It made no sense then and it makes no sense now.
Conservatives become "Send the buggers back" party.
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
All the Leave spokespeople have said current EU migrants should be able to stay here.
The only voices against have been Mr Hammond, and Ms May.
Yes because they want to ensure the EU gives UK citizens in the EU the same rights before confirming.
Really don't think it's necessary. There are ~1.2 million Brits in the EU and ~3.2 million EU citizens here. As we want an amicable divorce, I think it sets the wrong tone from the outset.
lol, the wrong tone was set by Farage at the European Parliament last week.
The European leaders are grown ups, they will see a negotiating tactic and not take it personally.
Fuck the European leaders. What about the people? Are we seriously prepared to deport people? It's complete bollocks, and, as a second order effect, a gift for all the whiny, grieving remainers to get their knickers in a twist over.
We're at breaking point don't you know? The decent hard working people of this country are at danger of being raped and assaulted by pillaging bands of immigrants. The government can't stand idly by and do nothing - no backsliding please.
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I expect he'll come out and support May.
Edit: He handled the referendum very well. He chaired a series of constituency debates on the subject, and argued that he didn't want to compromise his neutrality in those debates by taking a side.
I haven't spoken to him recently, but I'd be gobsmacked if he's not backing Theresa May.
I think it will return, and if they can just get away from just trying to ape the old Clarkson et al format, I think a reasonably good programme can emerge from the wreckage, without Evans. The last couple of episodes were improving, it was in a way starting to find its feet a bit.
I always felt that, despite the hype, burying this relaunch series in the summer months and up against Euro2016 was done to "test it out" and give them an excuse for poor ratings.
As to why Newham had so many willing volunteers? No idea?
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/political-parties-campaigning-and-donations/political-parties-annual-accounts/details-of-accounts
Having just fought an election in 2015, I'd guess they're all hopelessly in debt.
A government minister has said it would be unwise to provide EU nationals with guaranteed UK status without a deal for UK citizens.
http://news.sky.com/story/1721530/guaranteed-uk-status-for-eu-nationals-unwise
I DJ'ed at both and have had a root around the backrooms. If they were ever joined, it's not obvious.
So at the end of the day it's a score draw.
Totally agree Alastair, been saying exactly that elsewhere, the Conservative party doesn't have the luxury of seeing this contest through the prism of one issue!
When will Labour learn to lose gracefully ?
PS I wonder if Carlotta and I knew each other then....we appear to have moved at least in some similar circles!
And "muppet" is a term of endearment where I come from...
http://bit.ly/29r6oii
LOL.
The PM was absolutely wrong to resign so soon. It just feels no-one is in charge.
If any of the European countries start pissing around, we can revisit the issue. I think I'm correct in saying that only Spain has more Brits than vice versa, France is a wash, and we have more of theirs vs ours in every other EU country. I'll have a dig and check.
*edit Cyprus has more Brits than we have Cypriots, Finland is a wash*
You voted to Leave. Bit rich to hear you moralising now.
That being said, I'm not buying into the story that you can't be PM unless you've had a 4 year internship as leader of the opposition, or in one of the great offices of state. Worth remembering that the current incumbent of the oval office had no executive experience prior to running for President!
The only voices against have been Mr Hammond, and Ms May.
The format's fine and it could work (albeit less successfully than before) with new presenters, but having seven (including Stig) was stupid and having Evans as the lead was not necessarily an intelligent decision either.
I wonder what her favourite Munro is? Or is she more of a downs-style lass?
Seriously though, I remember Robin Cook was a serious walker (and I think he died on a hill). What other serious walking MPs are there?
Labour's candidates are all quite poor - and the best of them seem to be totally sidelined.
The European leaders are grown ups, they will see a negotiating tactic and not take it personally.
@alexmassie: Well, yeah. When you fight a campaign on the basis there are "too many people here" this is going to happen. https://t.co/e8kSjh0duc
You think?
That's a plan that's worked out well.
The LEAVE wing of the party was clear that everyone should stay in advance of the referendum, and they are sticking to that line now.
And then he became leader and went back to eating chocolate.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11698875/Emigration-Why-British-expats-have-nothing-to-fear-from-Brexit.html
A holding statement (nothing's changed for now and we hope a reciprocal arrangement can be negotiated) is fine. Guaranteeing rights for foreign citizens when ours have no corresponding guarantee is just stupid.
SOTBO!!
We're at breaking point don't you know? The decent hard working people of this country are at danger of being raped and assaulted by pillaging bands of immigrants. The government can't stand idly by and do nothing - no backsliding please.
Everyone's quitting at the moment
Chris Evans – Ginger
David Cameron – Posh
Roy Hodgson – Sporty
Boris Johnson – Baby
Nigel Farage – Scary