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SystemSystem Posts: 11,728
edited June 2016 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Might Balls be Labour’s answer at 100/1?

As the extraordinary episode in Labour’s history that is Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership enters what looks like a chaotic death-throw, eyes and minds inevitably turn to what – and who – comes next.

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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    First like Leave.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,127
    Lowlander said:

    Looks like there's a lot of support in England for the Union to end as well.

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747063721894252544

    There always was, sadly.

    Hard work from Mr Herdson today!
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    LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    Seems that England wants the Union to end as well.

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747063721894252544
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    edited June 2016
    I heartily endorse this thread, this solely isn't my betting position talking, I miss doing Ed Balls deep in trouble thread headers

    And thank you David for your threads today, positively Meeksian in the output and turnaround time
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    David Herdson, on how to balls up a thread.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,032
    Poor Batley.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,042
    My Facebook has become more political than this website now !
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,060
    edited June 2016
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I heartily endorse this thread, this solely isn't my betting position talking, I miss doing Ed Balls deep in trouble thread headers

    And thank you David for your threads today, positively Meeksian in the output and turnaround time

    And his buddy Osborne won't be there to come up against....
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    MontyHallMontyHall Posts: 226
    edited June 2016
    I am shown three doors. Behind one is the next PM, behind the other two are losing betting slips

    I choose door one. The host opens door three to reveal someone who won two elections in Remain friendly London and has just won a decisive Leave vote in the rest of England.

    Do I switch?
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    If Balls is Labour's answer, then what the heck was the question?

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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,060
    MP_SE said:

    First like Leave.

    Surprised you didn't leave it to a remainer to post for you. ;)
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,127
    Speedy said:

    David_Evershed said:

    We need the Boundary Commission to finalise the new constituencies.

    Should focus MPs minds, especially REMAIN MPs who are at odds with their LEAVE activists.

    Expect plenty of threat of de-selection if MPs don't go along with BREXIT.

    Hilary Benn first in line.
    Then Steven Kinnock (I don't like hereditary MP's anyway).
    When they're Labour, I prefer the term Red Princes.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    FPT:

    I'm not sure it's support for the end of the Union. It's just consistency. In the crudest of brush strokes (I can't be arsed to write a nuanced essay). The UK didn't like the direction the EU was heading, and has chosen to leave. Scotland did not. Therefore it can't have its own referendum because....reasons? Doesn't make sense. I'd agree that the UK's decision is a material change.

    I do think that Sindy II would have to be a once in a generation referendum though.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,048
    edited June 2016
    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.
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    CopperSulphateCopperSulphate Posts: 1,119
    Balls? Nah.

    The only politician on the left who has talked any sense since the referendum seems to be Blair. I honestly think he'd be their best hope at the next election, everyone else is utterly hopeless.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    That well known vote winning machine Ed Balls.....
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,032
    Mr. Tyndall, he did not endear himself to persons in his old constituency when they had the misfortune to encounter him.

    Mr. Pulpstar, I bet there's less differential front end grip, too.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @GuardianAnushka: EXC: Len McCluskey warns that MPs tweeting and briefing against Corbyn could face mandatory reselection https://t.co/Tqwi8Upguh
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,060
    Balls spent last year taking Norwich down so used to failing teams still...
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited June 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    My Facebook has become more political than this website now !

    Had someone on WhatsApp claim a points based immigration system is racist so will look to move to either Australia or Canada...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    Going to be like The Alamo and Rorke's Drift rolled into one for ROI to win this one.
    #Frexit.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Malhotra. Burnham's ruled himself out! Possibly a couple of Eagles and Falconer to come. Although anyone in the Shad Cabinet who might want to be leader will probably stay put.
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    We need the Boundary Commission to finalise the new constituencies.

    Should focus MPs minds, especially REMAIN MPs who are at odds with their LEAVE activists.

    Expect plenty of threat of de-selection if MPs don't go along with BREXIT.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    OUT said:

    Going to be like The Alamo and Rorke's Drift rolled into one for ROI to win this one.
    #Frexit.

    Nah, it's going to be like attacking the Maginot Line
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Yeah, so what about his ability to command support in the party or the country?
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,341
    I backed Balls for leader once before, and he let me down badly. I actually rather miss him. If he had been running Labour Remain they might have made a better fist of it.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    alex. said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Malhotra. Burnham's ruled himself out! Possibly a couple of Eagles and Falconer to come. Although anyone in the Shad Cabinet who might want to be leader will probably stay put.
    Two Eagles and a Falconer?

    I'm sure I can make an avian related pun out of that in a thread header.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    This is knackering. You try to escape and this monumental clusterfuck sucks you back in.
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    Perhaps Dave and Jez should hold hands and skip out together at PMQs on Wednesday.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    kle4 said:

    Lowlander said:

    Looks like there's a lot of support in England for the Union to end as well.

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747063721894252544

    There always was, sadly.

    Hard work from Mr Herdson today!
    He is enamored with calling this the end the death ect ect of Corbyn.

    I can't actually understand how he believes all this when Corbyn is standing on such solid ground and his enemies on such flimsy ground.

    The battlefield (europe) could not have been more favourable for Corbyn (except foreign policy), especially after the Labour MP's have been proven so out of touch on the issue.

    And don't forget the lingering animosity towards the MP's from Labour, the main reason why Corbyn was elected was because the Labour party hates it's own MP's.
    The view is that the MP's are some kind of out of touch aristocrats who need the chop, and their behaviour proves it.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,987
    I would be very surprised if the new candidate were not a woman.
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    edited June 2016
    MP_SE said:

    Pulpstar said:

    My Facebook has become more political than this website now !

    Had someone on WhatsApp claim a points based immigration system is racist so will look to move to either Australia or Canada...

    The ignorance of people on social media knows no limit.

    Whereas, those on politicalbetting .............
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    I see from the previous thread that Michael Howard is being touted by some of the great and good of pbCOM- tongue in cheek. I've been name dropping today, De Piero (sorry for confusing her with an Italian legend Del Piero), but I had the misfortune to be sat next to Michael Howard one time during a Kent social event. Enough said. He was not the most pleasant company.

    John O's post earlier....read that. That is where the Tories are at, and they'll go for Boris, warts and all. God help em, but the die is cast.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    Jonathan said:

    This is knackering. You try to escape and this monumental clusterfuck sucks you back in.

    It is making the advance planning/writing of threads a bloody nightmare
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Thrak said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
    The thing about the politicians at the top of our political parties at the moment is that they are all disasters plumbing new depths of unpopularity... until the next lot come along and suddenly they don't seem quite so bad.

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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Norwich City score again.

    If Brady knocks out the French, can we be honorary members of the PL?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,549
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Have we got a list of confirmed resignations?
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,587
    Surely a question to send off to Mr Rentoul at the Indy
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    https://twitter.com/CllrPeteBowyer/status/747068317324685312
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    alex. said:

    Thrak said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
    The thing about the politicians at the top of our political parties at the moment is that they are all disasters plumbing new depths of unpopularity... until the next lot come along and suddenly they don't seem quite so bad.

    Very true, glad to see the back of him, then this happens.

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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,403
    Tipping point.

    https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/747044702332006400

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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Scott_P said:

    @GuardianAnushka: EXC: Len McCluskey warns that MPs tweeting and briefing against Corbyn could face mandatory reselection https://t.co/Tqwi8Upguh

    I fully support that, it's time to clean up the Augean Stables from those MP's who behave like some kind of aristocracy.

    Scottish Labour did not, instead they installed those aristocrats as their leaders, so the Labour voters had enough and left.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    alex. said:

    Thrak said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
    The thing about the politicians at the top of our political parties at the moment is that they are all disasters plumbing new depths of unpopularity... until the next lot come along and suddenly they don't seem quite so bad.

    This. When we're waxing nostalgic about Ed Balls, you know we're currently circling the plughole.
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    edited June 2016
    Corbyn has the overwhelming support of Labout party members and will not be voted out.

    The SNP does not control the UK parliament and will not block BREXIT.

    The petition about a second referendum has zero status and is trivial.

    The media are getting too excited over nothing.
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,341
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Have we got a list of confirmed resignations?
    Speccie is keeping a running total:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/corbyn-coup-running-tally-frontbench-resignations/
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    Sadly, I have to say that I will be cheering on Iceland tomorrow, a first for me because I have always followed England, and even though I love Kindly Uncle Roy.

    Sod it...the French have scored....
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Have we got a list of confirmed resignations?
    LabList:

    Hilary Benn, Shadow Foreign Secretary (Sacked last night)
    Heidi Alexander, Shadow Health
    Gloria De Piero, Shadow Young People and Voter Registration
    Ian Murray, Shadow Scotland
    Lucy Powell, Shadow Education
    Kerry McCarthy, Shadow Environment
    Lilian Greenwood, Shadow Transport
    Seema Malhotra, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    David_Evershed said:

    Corbyn has the overwhelming support of Labout party members and will not be voted out.

    He doesn't though, one of the big myths that is surrounding this debate.

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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @TelePolitics: Who has left the Labour Shadow Cabinet? https://t.co/My2sfsQMjp
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    David_Evershed said:

    Corbyn has the overwhelming support of Labout party members and will not be voted out.

    The SNP does not control the UK parliament and will not block BREXIT.

    The petition about a second referendum has zero status and is trivial.

    The media are getting too excited over nothing.

    I agree.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/CllrPeteBowyer/status/747068317324685312

    Corbynites not exactly giving the impression of well planned coherent strategy.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    The way things are going right now, the SNP could field candidates in England and they would be voted for. Just to stop the madness...

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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    SouthamObserver said:

    I would be very surprised if the new candidate were not a woman.

    Boris Johnson in drag.

    We all look forward to that. :)
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    1 all booooooooo
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    edited June 2016
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    This is knackering. You try to escape and this monumental clusterfuck sucks you back in.

    I'm still not getting any fucking work done.

    Aaaaaargh

    Somebody asked me pre-thread what might induce buyer's remorse, in me (Bremorse is the technical term). If this howling chaos continues that might do it, simply because I need to concentrate, and earn some bloody cash.
    That was me and thanks for the entertaining if facetious response.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can someone tell me who the last shadow cabinet minister to resign was?

    I've got it as Seema Malhotra, the eighth one to go.

    Honestly shadow cabinet ministers are dropping like Carthaginians at Zama

    Have we got a list of confirmed resignations?
    LabList:

    Hilary Benn, Shadow Foreign Secretary (Sacked last night)
    Heidi Alexander, Shadow Health
    Gloria De Piero, Shadow Young People and Voter Registration
    Ian Murray, Shadow Scotland
    Lucy Powell, Shadow Education
    Kerry McCarthy, Shadow Environment
    Lilian Greenwood, Shadow Transport
    Seema Malhotra, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
    Are we sure De Piero's resignation was anything to do with Corbyn? If that was her brief should she have been the first out the door on Friday morning?
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    This is knackering. You try to escape and this monumental clusterfuck sucks you back in.

    I'm still not getting any fucking work done.

    Aaaaaargh

    Somebody asked me pre-thread what might induce buyer's remorse, in me (Bremorse is the technical term). If this howling chaos continues that might do it, simply because I need to concentrate, and earn some bloody cash.
    You'll need that cash pal to offset your negative equity.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    France 2 Ireland 1
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    alex. said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/CllrPeteBowyer/status/747068317324685312

    Corbynites not exactly giving the impression of well planned coherent strategy.
    @LOS_Fisher: Momentum spokesman: This is 100% not true.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Karen Buck ✔ @KarenPBuckMP
    2/..Labour has duty to be serious opposition and credible government in waiting. Jeremy Corbyn is not the leader we need now.
    1:49 PM - 26 Jun 2016
    135 135 Retweets 117 117 likes

    Isn't she his PPS?
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    No....Irish hearts are sinking
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    What did I say?

    Ireland = The Maginot Line
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    tyson said:

    Sadly, I have to say that I will be cheering on Iceland tomorrow, a first for me because I have always followed England, and even though I love Kindly Uncle Roy.

    Sod it...the French have scored....

    I'm torn, Iceland is the most stunning country and one I wouldn't mind living in. Happy for either winning really.

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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    CopperSulphate said:

    Balls? Nah.

    The only politician on the left who has talked any sense since the referendum seems to be Blair. I honestly think he'd be their best hope at the next election, everyone else is utterly hopeless.

    Are you sure there isn't anyone you can think of that Labour members are less likely to select ;-) Especially with Chilcot coming out next week.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    Teeing up for England v France - fun in the current atmosphere.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,685
    Scott_P said:

    @TelePolitics: Who has left the Labour Shadow Cabinet? https://t.co/My2sfsQMjp

    I didn't recognise any of those faces before I watched the vid.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,587
    Two great goals from France
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Karen Buck ✔ @KarenPBuckMP
    2/..Labour has duty to be serious opposition and credible government in waiting. Jeremy Corbyn is not the leader we need now.
    1:49 PM - 26 Jun 2016
    135 135 Retweets 117 117 likes

    Isn't she his PPS?

    No she was Ed's.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,548
    The Labour Party is disintegrating in front of our eyes.

    SDP II now looking more and more inevitable...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited June 2016
    @iainjwatson: 1/2 I'm told by well placed source that #Labour party has legal advice that Jeremy Corbyn would NOT automatically be on leadership ballot

    @iainjwatson: 2/2 but that Labour's NEC could over rule this and ensure he is on the ballot but might be open to messy legal challenge
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    MarkHopkins said:


    The way things are going right now, the SNP could field candidates in England and they would be voted for. Just to stop the madness...

    Labour lost the election because England feared they would form a coalistion with the SNP.

    SNP and Scotland have me themselves unpopular in England.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/CllrPeteBowyer/status/747068317324685312

    McDonnell - Continuity IRA Momentum
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Scott_P said:

    @iainjwatson: 1/2 I'm told by well placed source that #Labour party has legal advice that Jeremy Corbyn would NOT automatically be on leadership ballot

    @iainjwatson: 2/2 but that Labour's NEC could over rule this and ensure he is on the ballot but might be open to messy legal challenge

    If Labout MPs don't put Corbyn forward for election they will be deselected by their local party.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Im wondering if all this will do real and lasting damage to facebook in the UK
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,341
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    Interesting. Boris leader and May chancellor in a joint coronation?
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    MarqueeMark said:

    Teeing up for England v France - fun in the current atmosphere.

    If France win can we start a petition for a replay ?
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited June 2016
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/CllrPeteBowyer/status/747068317324685312

    McDonnell - Continuity IRA Momentum
    I do wonder if we had an IRA PM if that would keep NI in the Union....
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Im wondering if all this will do real and lasting damage to facebook in the UK

    What in particular?
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    John_M said:

    alex. said:

    Thrak said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
    The thing about the politicians at the top of our political parties at the moment is that they are all disasters plumbing new depths of unpopularity... until the next lot come along and suddenly they don't seem quite so bad.

    This. When we're waxing nostalgic about Ed Balls, you know we're currently circling the plughole.
    Indeed and I am surprised by some on here who seem to have short memories. A couple fo reminders: Ed Balls was Gordon Brown's advisor and henchman. The clusterfuck of City Regulation was largely down to Balls, as I think much of what Brown came up as Chancellor. Balls was also a close associate of that shit McBride, worked in the same office as him and yet mysteriously had no knowledge of what McBride was up to. Lets not bother to mention his house flipping and expenses extravaganza, which may have been legal but was morally as straight as a corkscrew.

    Why people should feel nostalgic over such a man is beyond me.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,587
    HurstLlama said:

    John_M said:

    alex. said:

    Thrak said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    That's a cracking photo of Balls.

    Personally I really like him as a person. Obviously not a politician I support but otherwise I have a lot of time for him.

    I like Ed Balls as a person too.

    He had a brain the size of Mars, and always had Osborne on his toes, ditto Gove when he was shadow education secretary.
    Good choice, if he could neutralise the Corbynites he might even get this floating voters vote.
    The thing about the politicians at the top of our political parties at the moment is that they are all disasters plumbing new depths of unpopularity... until the next lot come along and suddenly they don't seem quite so bad.

    This. When we're waxing nostalgic about Ed Balls, you know we're currently circling the plughole.
    Indeed and I am surprised by some on here who seem to have short memories. A couple fo reminders: Ed Balls was Gordon Brown's advisor and henchman. The clusterfuck of City Regulation was largely down to Balls, as I think much of what Brown came up as Chancellor. Balls was also a close associate of that shit McBride, worked in the same office as him and yet mysteriously had no knowledge of what McBride was up to. Lets not bother to mention his house flipping and expenses extravaganza, which may have been legal but was morally as straight as a corkscrew.

    Why people should feel nostalgic over such a man is beyond me.
    plus the years of front-bench gurning and silly hand gestures
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    HurstLlama said:

    Why people should feel nostalgic over such a man is beyond me.

    Because he isnt McDonnell or Corbyn I expect.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    Stark_Dawning said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    Interesting. Boris leader and May chancellor in a joint coronation?
    But...but...but.....Osborne?
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited June 2016
    Stark_Dawning said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    Interesting. Boris leader and May chancellor in a joint coronation?
    No. All Remain supporting MPs must be decimated. Those that survive will be permitted to sit quietly, and obey their Leave overlords.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,313
    I think we're in territory where we need to get on with a true realignment. Any would-be Labour leader should be considering whether they'd be better off founding a new party or defecting.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Wont it be a hoot if Podemos win the Spanish Election, they look like a Hybrid of UKIP and Dave Spart.

    EU has far more to lose from Brexit than we do
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    David_Evershed said:

    Scott_P said:

    @iainjwatson: 1/2 I'm told by well placed source that #Labour party has legal advice that Jeremy Corbyn would NOT automatically be on leadership ballot

    @iainjwatson: 2/2 but that Labour's NEC could over rule this and ensure he is on the ballot but might be open to messy legal challenge

    If Labout MPs don't put Corbyn forward for election they will be deselected by their local party.
    No they won't. Momentum may try and target some of the ringleaders by loading the local party a la Militant....all local MP's have friendly enough relations with their local members.

    My local brach split when it was taken over by Militant. Most Labour party members are a gentle sort.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    David_Evershed said:

    Scott_P said:

    @iainjwatson: 1/2 I'm told by well placed source that #Labour party has legal advice that Jeremy Corbyn would NOT automatically be on leadership ballot

    @iainjwatson: 2/2 but that Labour's NEC could over rule this and ensure he is on the ballot but might be open to messy legal challenge

    If Labout MPs don't put Corbyn forward for election they will be deselected by their local party.
    Why is everyone so certain that Corbyn has the support of the local parties? Even the selectorate who would have been heavily EU? Talk of at least a couple of motions of no confidence passed already.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,313
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    I'd support that, but with May as Foreign Secretary with responsibility for negotiating our way out of the Brexit mess. The role would be of real consequence for the first time in ages.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    They stopped for tea...

    @PolhomeEditor: More Shadow Cabinet resignations coming after 4pm.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,735
    edited June 2016
    I'll just leave this here. Someone telling Mike to stop tweeting about betting on politics

    https://twitter.com/TomJamesScott/status/747052029974036480
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    anotherDave said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    Interesting. Boris leader and May chancellor in a joint coronation?
    No. All Remain supporting MPs must be decimated. Those that survive will be permitted to sit quietly, and obey their Leave overlords.
    Theresa May is about as Remain supporting as Jeremy Corbyn
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Wont it be a hoot if Podemos win the Spanish Election, they look like a Hybrid of UKIP and Dave Spart.

    EU has far more to lose from Brexit than we do

    We forgot that there are elections in Spain today.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Im wondering if all this will do real and lasting damage to facebook in the UK

    My Facebookies are like Gods to me now. Not a message, not a slogan from any one of them, bless them all. Manners maketh the Man, even online.
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    edited June 2016
    tyson said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    This is knackering. You try to escape and this monumental clusterfuck sucks you back in.

    I'm still not getting any fucking work done.

    Aaaaaargh

    Somebody asked me pre-thread what might induce buyer's remorse, in me (Bremorse is the technical term). If this howling chaos continues that might do it, simply because I need to concentrate, and earn some bloody cash.
    You'll need that cash pal to offset your negative equity.

    Lower house prices are good for those seeking to buy a house and those seeking to buy a more expensive house. The majority.

    Higher house prices only benefit those exiting the housing market or downsizing.


    Note also a lower pound is good for UK exports, especially when we have such a need to increase exports and close the big trade gap.
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,341
    MarqueeMark said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Justine Greening: The country can’t wait until October. Johnson and May should reach an agreement – and take over now.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/justine-greening-the-country-cant-wait-until-october-johnson-and-may-should-reach-an-agreement-and-take-over-now.html

    Interesting. Boris leader and May chancellor in a joint coronation?
    But...but...but.....Osborne?
    George can be Foreign Secretary. He'll have plenty on his plate restoring our reputation from international laughing stock.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    SeanT said:

    Where the F is Osborne?

    I can maybe understand Cameron keeping a low profile, for a couple of days, he must be in shock. But the Chancellor of the Exchequer should be on the TV 24/7, reassuring the markets, offering alternatives, yet zip.

    Dereliction of duty.

    To be fair I'm not sure he's really the man for publicly reassuring the markets given what he said before the referendum.
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