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  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Mr. Putney, the other two were Grosjean at 1.9 for something or other, and Ricciardo at 8 to lead lap 1 (the Verstappen bet was a tip I offered but doesn't count in the race records because it was only tipped here, not in my regular pieces).

    Interesting qualifying.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,735

    HYUFD said:

    MikeK said:

    JackW said:

    MikeK said:

    Come, come, JackW. George Elector of Hanover was invited by the English great and good to take over the British Monarchy, while the heavy heel of the redcoats (mainly German mercenaries) was on every Jacobins neck.

    Just be happy that the neck was not entirely broken, as it so easily could have been.

    I am shocked and stunned at your comment @MikeK.

    Supporting a German takeover of Britain. UKIP members have been ritually disemboweled on Channel 5 for much less .... :sunglasses:
    Except that I'm no longer a member of UKIP - quite good.
    A number of PB Leavers seem to have become disenchanted with UKIP over the last year or so.

    Idols turn out to have feet of clay, I suppose.
    Not at all. From the very start I made clear that UKIP was a vehicle of convenience to force Cameron to give us a referendum even though he really didn't want to. It worked very well for that. Now that we have the referendum it has no further purpose in its current incarnation.

    If the vote should be for Remain then I would hope that Farage would finally be pushed aside and someone more sensible and less divisive would take over at which point UKIP would again have a purpose. There were no idols involved at all and in all my time as a member I never once voted for Farage as leader.
    I know that you have never been a Faragist, but it is interesting to see that other Kippers are leaving the fold.

    Without claiming Jacks crown, I did call peak kipper after the 2014 Euros.
    Rubbish, peak Kipper will be 2020 when UKIP will get about 17/18% of the vote, unless Leave win or Remain win a landslide we are nowhere near peak Kipper yet!
    Actually I could see a kipper revival if there was a Remain landslide, but if a narrow Remain win or a Leave win then I think that there would be a much more Eurosceptic Tory leader who would occupy a lot of kipper territory. I cannot see a moderate Remainer winning the leadership in those circumstances.
    If there was a Remain landslide the issue is parked, the public has clearly decisively voted to be in the EU. If there is a Leave win then UKIP have no real reason to continue to exist. If it is a narrow Remain the most likely Tory leader will be May or Hammond in my view, ie a mildly Eurosceptic Remainer
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,735
    edited May 2016

    HYUFD said:

    Next to zero chance of that, if, as is most likely, the referendum is a narrow Remain I can see a result something like Tories 33%, Labour 31%, UKIP 17% in 2020. That would be a swing of 4% from Tory to UKIP and 2% from Labour to UKIP and would see them win Thurrock and Thanet South and come close in Hartlepool and Boston

    All depends on UKIP getting themselves a serious leader and a serious election-fighting structure. Farage is a clown.
    Farage has taken UKIP from *% when he took over to 13% at the last election but they could be led by a dead parrot at the next election and get 17/18% if it is a close Remain vote!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    HYUFD said:

    Next to zero chance of that, if, as is most likely, the referendum is a narrow Remain I can see a result something like Tories 33%, Labour 31%, UKIP 17% in 2020. That would be a swing of 4% from Tory to UKIP and 2% from Labour to UKIP and would see them win Thurrock and Thanet South and come close in Hartlepool and Boston

    All depends on UKIP getting themselves a serious leader and a serious election-fighting structure. Farage is a clown.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,934
    RodCrosby said:

    RodCrosby said:

    RodCrosby said:

    RodCrosby said:

    My Veep tip in to 21, from 85 on BF (been trading around 50 previously)...

    Indeed, she's 15 to buy now on the Betfair exchange, but why aren't the bookies joining in the fun?
    With such an ostensibly wide field, perhaps you have to ask for a price?
    I've had a fiver's worth at a tad over 60/1 so I hope you're right. Despite her odds shortening quite dramatically the money on her is still modest ...... < £500 out of a total of £58K on the entire market.
    Which veep tip are we talking about: McSally?
    Yes. I'm seldom impressed by modern politicians, American politicians, and most women politicians impress me even less.

    But McSally seems The Real Deal. Incredibly driven, not for advancement for its own sake, but to achieve things, usually standing alone against stupid authority and convention. She seems very sharp, yet also a warm and caring human being.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56lrXG8H9bE
    Her back story is courageous, exhilarating and inspiring, and as a freshman Congresswoman she is taking no prisoners on the Hill, making generals and admirals squirm under her forensic cross-examination...
    Very little information available on McSally's private life.
    It looks like she doesn't have one, or it remains very private, just as it ought to.
    Some innuendo from the Huffington Post:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-powers-hannley/sham-marriage-allegations_b_2036319.html
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Who was it who said "military intelligence" is a contradiction-in-terms?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTDolvRZZ_Y

    A decade after single-handedly forcing Rumsfeld to back down, McSally ran for Congress. An envelope containing a sizeable donation arrived at her campaign HQ. Inside was a cheque signed by Donald Rumsfeld...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,414

    THREAD NOUVEAU

  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Dear me. For most politicians it's Paxman or Neil who takes out the off-stump. For Ed, I think it's been Susanna Reid, Myleene Klass and now ... Joey Essex.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301

    Dear me. For most politicians it's Paxman or Neil who takes out the off-stump. For Ed, I think it's been Susanna Reid, Myleene Klass and now ... Joey Essex.
    Gordon Brown b. Sian Williams.
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