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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,216
    The trend continues
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,216
    First and second?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    Third...like what we want England to score...
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Aged 96!

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/27/dr-heimlich-performs-heimlich-manoeuvre-for-first-time-aged-96
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    Referendum Express June 13 London - Bristol - Crewe hauled by 46100 Royal Scot. Followed by run to York from Crewe on June 14.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Harris
    @DPJHodges at the H&K CLP meet last night they refused to even debate the proposed Antisemitism rule change despite it being on the agenda.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    So the trend that the electorate are unmoved for over a month continues.

    Both phone and online have the same static trend and the same totally different forecasts as a month ago.

    Just maybe the electorate understand the issue and dont intend to vote one way or the other based on who the politicians are on each side or what they say.

    To my mind the most important next fact is how many people join the Electoral Register between now and 7th June.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Sophie Ridge
    Somewhat confusing that In campaigners say leaving EU is a "leap into the dark" & yet predict to nearest £100 what it would cost families
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    The Trump Train steams into San Diego, California...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iVQWh9mfiM
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    https://twitter.com/Stronger_ln/status/736222682111430656
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    What a stupid substitution.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/736292071288524801

    Back to 1991 with David.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited May 2016
    .
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    Vice news are doing a special on Jahadi Jez. They were given behind the scenes access.

    https://youtu.be/Fwm3QKrQlzU
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    What a stupid substitution.

    OGH will be pleased :)

    Evening all, BTW!
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    https://twitter.com/ThePoke/status/736294171984596992
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    https://twitter.com/Stronger_ln/status/736238136515276801
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    Full time England 2-1 Australia.
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    AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 2,869
    Plato_Says said:

    https://twitter.com/ThePoke/status/736294171984596992

    Next up - a chart on rubber band usage?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/736296345967988740
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    VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,436
    Tom Brake is now the longest serving Lib Dem MP in post. Previously it was Simon Hughes.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/736292071288524801

    Back to 1991 with David.

    Thats a bit off message for the Mirror. I thought they were pro remain?
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,216
    Plato_Says said:

    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/736296345967988740

    I've read some shit but that's a real stretch
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Plato_Says said:

    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/736296345967988740

    That's why I am so puzzled by playing the pension card so early by Cameron, loads of time for rebuttal
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/736292071288524801

    Back to 1991 with David.

    Thats a bit off message for the Mirror. I thought they were pro remain?
    They've had a lot of pro Brexit opinion pieces
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    https://twitter.com/Stronger_ln/status/736192449878593536
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Alistair said:

    Plato_Says said:

    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/736296345967988740

    That's why I am so puzzled by playing the pension card so early by Cameron, loads of time for rebuttal
    Panicing at the polls being exactly were they were before Obama spouted and all they have monstered us with since being to no effect.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    edited May 2016
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36401150

    Zika crisis: Rio Olympics 'should be moved or postponed'

    More than 100 leading scientists say the Rio Olympics should be moved or postponed over the Zika outbreak.

    The group says new findings about the virus make it "unethical" for the games to go ahead in an open letter to the World Health Organization.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    SeanT said:

    Plato_Says said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/736292071288524801

    Back to 1991 with David.

    Thats a bit off message for the Mirror. I thought they were pro remain?
    They've had a lot of pro Brexit opinion pieces
    They must be aware that their core demographic, the ageing WWC, are significantly pro-Brexit. Who else buys the Mirror??!
    Yet the Mail on Sunday is infuriating their readers by being seemingly pro brexit. Funny old world
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Alistair said:

    Plato_Says said:

    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/736296345967988740

    That's why I am so puzzled by playing the pension card so early by Cameron, loads of time for rebuttal
    Panicing at the polls being exactly were they were before Obama spouted and all they have monstered us with since being to no effect.
    The only person panicking is SeanT in headlesschicken mode. A PB regular occurrence in the days before a vote...
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    FPT

    Just seen the clip of Straw jnr talking about us deporting people. If Remain think this issue is going to disappear after the referendum they're mad, they cannot insult our intelligence in such a way and expect to be treated civilly.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    SeanT said:

    Plato_Says said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/736292071288524801

    Back to 1991 with David.

    Thats a bit off message for the Mirror. I thought they were pro remain?
    They've had a lot of pro Brexit opinion pieces
    They must be aware that their core demographic, the ageing WWC, are significantly pro-Brexit. Who else buys the Mirror??!
    Anybody think Andy Capp is a Remainer?
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/736301243660931072
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Evening all.

    If I understand the last thread correctly:

    Leave criticising Remain's £4300 nonsense figure is good for Remain because it makes the figure stick in people's mind.

    Remain criticising Leave's possibly misleading £350 million figure is good for Remain because it makes people remember that Leave are misleading people.

    Did I get that right?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,196
    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    They're worried - you wouldn't agree to that if you didn't think you needed to.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Have they arranged emergency medical assistance?

    From what I've seen Andrew is very good at ripping people apart.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,887
    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
    Mmmmmh I'm thinking of the referendum rather than his own career though I guess they are linked. At best its a calculated gamble and says plenty about his self confidence, but Remainers will be watching from behind the settee.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Woke up this morning and shuffled into the bathroom as usual to perform my ablutions, humming a little tune that wouldn't leave my head. Then I realized what it was - the theme to the Graham Norton show, which I watched last night. Barbie dolls, robots, TV sets and lava lamps falling into some mysterious colored liquid.

    What a way to wake!

    - and what a dreadful show.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,196
    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
    Ah, that's a good point. Perhaps this is about him rather than the referendum. I suspect Neil will know that and will extend his interrogation to Osborne's general handling of the economy. Whatever the motivation, it's certainly a roll of dice.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    blackburn63 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
    Mmmmmh I'm thinking of the referendum rather than his own career though I guess they are linked. At best its a calculated gamble and says plenty about his self confidence, but Remainers will be watching from behind the settee.
    He is thinking about his career.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    blackburn63 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
    Mmmmmh I'm thinking of the referendum rather than his own career though I guess they are linked. At best its a calculated gamble and says plenty about his self confidence, but Remainers will be watching from behind the settee.
    Neil is infamously well briefed, that's why Osborne has avoided him for 6 yrs.

    All those Armageddon predictions are going to get a lot of facetime.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Given Osborne's awful polling he means hasn't got a choice. If he does better than expected (low expectations) he'll be in a better place if there is a solid Remain win. If not, he can't really sink any further than 2%.

    He has nothing to lose.
    Mmmmmh I'm thinking of the referendum rather than his own career though I guess they are linked. At best its a calculated gamble and says plenty about his self confidence, but Remainers will be watching from behind the settee.
    He is thinking about his career.
    Yes I get that but still think he'd be better waiting until June 24th. The atmosphere is hostile right now
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    In a one to one George tends to be at his best, and he is not short of faith in his own brilliance. So it remains to be seen who comes out on top.

    Who are the other 3 "big names" in the frame? Presumably another Remainer (not a Tory one) and two Leavers.

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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,302
    edited May 2016
    Who else is Andrew Neil interviewing in this slot (presumably all BBC1)?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    The Spectator is now staging a second Brexit debate, as the first one sold out so quickly. Book now! https://t.co/bFjdMD2nfe
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,875
    edited May 2016
    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Rather than seeing this as being a massive gamble by Osborne, I think it is more a case of him having an incredibly high opinion of his own intellect and thereby possessing a total and irrefutable grasp of all the issues relating to REMAIN being right as regards the EU referendum.
    He probably imagines in his own mind that he can gobble up anything Andrew Neil can throw at him and spit it out .... he may yet prove to be very mistaken.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,196
    foxinsoxuk said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    In a one to one George tends to be at his best, and he is not short of faith in his own brilliance. So it remains to be seen who comes out on top.

    Who are the other 3 "big names" in the frame? Presumably another Remainer (not a Tory one) and two Leavers.

    Neil would give Boris a good going over too which could be entertaining. I'd fancy Farage to do okay as he's been interviewed by Neil plenty of times and Farage has the advantage of saying what he thinks. If the other Remainer is Alan Johnson I hope we don't see him on This Week for the rest of the campaign.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ah, I see George Osborne has lined up his audition to be the next Prime minister with Brillo.

    Should be fun.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,302
    Last night's EU debate on BBC1 (Victoria Derbyshire) had a pitiful audience of 2m (10.1% viewing share).
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    tlg86 said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    In a one to one George tends to be at his best, and he is not short of faith in his own brilliance. So it remains to be seen who comes out on top.

    Who are the other 3 "big names" in the frame? Presumably another Remainer (not a Tory one) and two Leavers.

    Neil would give Boris a good going over too which could be entertaining. I'd fancy Farage to do okay as he's been interviewed by Neil plenty of times and Farage has the advantage of saying what he thinks. If the other Remainer is Alan Johnson I hope we don't see him on This Week for the rest of the campaign.
    Andrew Neil has a soft spot for the small, yet perfectly formed, Liz Kendall. A woman would be a good choice for Leave too.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    MikeL said:

    Last night's EU debate on BBC1 (Victoria Derbyshire) had a pitiful audience of 2m (10.1% viewing share).

    I've yet to see a good thing said about it either. And why were those spokesmen on? The average age must be 60. For a youth debate?
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Vets for Trump!
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    An epiphany is not the same as a delusion.

    Keep taking the tablets.
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    AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 2,869
    peter_from_putney said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Rather than seeing this as being a massive gamble by Osborne, I think it is more a case of him having an incredibly high opinion of his own intellect and thereby possessing a total and irrefutable grasp of all the issues relating to REMAIN being right as regards the EU referendum.
    He probably imagines in his own mind that he can gobble up anything Andrew Neil can throw at him and spit it out .... he may yet prove to be very mistaken.
    If he proves to be right, it would be equally compelling viewing, not to mention good for the Remain cause.

    Is Mr Neil able to achieve impartiality or does he tackle his interviews from a known opinion?
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,611
    FPT, thanks to @SouthamObserver for the kind words. I'd like to return the compliment to, one of the remainers I enjoy debating along with Bob Syles, Topping and a few others I'm probably not able to remember given how much I've had to drink.
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,216
    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    F*ck off Sean - we can all compose little diatribes all the time - yours are getting predictable, tedious and I guess generally correlate with consumption of fine wine.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    AnneJGP said:

    peter_from_putney said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Rather than seeing this as being a massive gamble by Osborne, I think it is more a case of him having an incredibly high opinion of his own intellect and thereby possessing a total and irrefutable grasp of all the issues relating to REMAIN being right as regards the EU referendum.
    He probably imagines in his own mind that he can gobble up anything Andrew Neil can throw at him and spit it out .... he may yet prove to be very mistaken.
    If he proves to be right, it would be equally compelling viewing, not to mention good for the Remain cause.

    Is Mr Neil able to achieve impartiality or does he tackle his interviews from a known opinion?
    An equal opportunities bruiser.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,611
    After that letter from the medical experts I'm hoping BF put on a special for the Olympics being moved out of Rio. Would like to see what kind of odds would be on offer
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited May 2016
    Trump: "Women pilots - that's what I like!"

    Check those McSally Veep slips...
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    Thank you for that very insightful comment.

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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.



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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    MaxPB said:

    After that letter from the medical experts I'm hoping BF put on a special for the Olympics being moved out of Rio. Would like to see what kind of odds would be on offer

    I wonder where it could be held? Somewhere where a good Olympics were held?
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,875
    AnneJGP said:

    peter_from_putney said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Rather than seeing this as being a massive gamble by Osborne, I think it is more a case of him having an incredibly high opinion of his own intellect and thereby possessing a total and irrefutable grasp of all the issues relating to REMAIN being right as regards the EU referendum.
    He probably imagines in his own mind that he can gobble up anything Andrew Neil can throw at him and spit it out .... he may yet prove to be very mistaken.
    If he proves to be right, it would be equally compelling viewing, not to mention good for the Remain cause.

    Is Mr Neil able to achieve impartiality or does he tackle his interviews from a known opinion?
    You're quite right - I'll be surprised if there isn't a clear winner. My money would be on Neil, for the very simple reason that he very seldom loses. Whether even a crushing defeat of Osborne, which is very unlikely, would have any effect whatever on the final outcome of the referendum is quite another matter. Surely by then virtually everyone who is likely to vote will have already made up their minds.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    MikeSmithson said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    Thank you for that very insightful comment.

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/736183859138695168
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,399
    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    That's bad.

    They are c*nts. But it's worse for you. You are ruled by c*nts.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    BenedictWhite said:

    I wonder where it could be held? Somewhere where a good Olympics were held?

    Moscow?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    MikeSmithson said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/734315730703945728
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    MaxPB said:

    After that letter from the medical experts I'm hoping BF put on a special for the Olympics being moved out of Rio. Would like to see what kind of odds would be on offer

    There have been several of these 'pleas' and it's not happened. It's probably too late at this point anyway.

    The financial arrangements needed to affect this idea would be massive.
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,875
    RodCrosby said:

    Trump: "Women pilots - that's what I like!"

    Check those McSally Veep slips...

    I'm checking, I'm checking!
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,399
    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    That's bad.

    They are c*nts. But it's worse for you. You are ruled by c*nts.
    Indubitably true. Albeit ripped off from *trainspotting*

    It is weird tho, how, when you drill down, all the most committed REMAINIACS are total shits, c*nts and hypocrites. It's like a job requirement.
    The trickiest bit was that the job application form was in French.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,380
    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    That's bad.

    They are c*nts. But it's worse for you. You are ruled by c*nts.
    Indubitably true. Albeit ripped off from *trainspotting*
    The EU will ban trainspotting if we REMAIN?

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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,611
    Tim_B said:

    MaxPB said:

    After that letter from the medical experts I'm hoping BF put on a special for the Olympics being moved out of Rio. Would like to see what kind of odds would be on offer

    There have been several of these 'pleas' and it's not happened. It's probably too late at this point anyway.

    The financial arrangements needed to affect this idea would be massive.
    No doubt but the athletes are dropping like flies. There may not be much of a Games left at this rate, and I expect this letter will accelerate the drop out rate.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,399
    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    That's bad.

    They are c*nts. But it's worse for you. You are ruled by c*nts.
    Indubitably true. Albeit ripped off from *trainspotting*

    It is weird tho, how, when you drill down, all the most committed REMAINIACS are total shits, c*nts and hypocrites. It's like a job requirement.
    Also, I think a joke or reference is slightly killed when one party is reduced to articulating it.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Donald Trump announced today in Fresno that he will no longer be using the phrase "Lyin' Ted" and will be reassigning the term "Lyin'". I wonder to whom?
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    That's bad.

    They are c*nts. But it's worse for you. You are ruled by c*nts.
    Indubitably true. Albeit ripped off from *trainspotting*

    It is weird tho, how, when you drill down, all the most committed REMAINIACS are total shits, c*nts and hypocrites. It's like a job requirement.
    I'm chuckling at this, some or the more, let's say, self satisfied Remainers will be quietly apoplectic.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    MikeSmithson said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.



    I have a very low opinion of George Osborne.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,887
    MikeSmithson said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.



    I probably did go a bit too far with that. Sorry Mike (and George is your reading)
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,399
    edited May 2016
    MaxPB said:

    FPT, thanks to @SouthamObserver for the kind words. I'd like to return the compliment to, one of the remainers I enjoy debating along with Bob Syles, Topping and a few others I'm probably not able to remember given how much I've had to drink.

    V kind thanks and likewise.

    Edit: and wrt drink, likewise also!
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,611
    MikeSmithson said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.



    Hmm, Osborne is a bit weird and possibly creepy. Loads of my leftie friends think he is a creep, but they wouldn't say the same of Dave. Osborne has a "not quite human" quality about him.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/736299455222288384
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    Plato_Says said:

    The Spectator is now staging a second Brexit debate, as the first one sold out so quickly. Book now! https://t.co/bFjdMD2nfe

    I was at the first.

    Dan Hannan brought the roof down.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Alex Deane
    "We have a veto, we wouldn't let it happen"
    "Oh you mean like when Blair gave up a big bit of the rebate?"
    "No, that's - that's -"
    #Brexit
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/735772894567882752
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Really don't approve of all these swear words being disguised by asterisks!

    :-) :-) :-)
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Tim_B said:

    MaxPB said:

    After that letter from the medical experts I'm hoping BF put on a special for the Olympics being moved out of Rio. Would like to see what kind of odds would be on offer

    There have been several of these 'pleas' and it's not happened. It's probably too late at this point anyway.

    The financial arrangements needed to affect this idea would be massive.
    The Olympics take place in August, well away from the mosquito season in Rio, one of many reasons not to panic over tourists getting infected.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11760228/zika-virus-risk-rio-olympics-2016
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    VapidBilgeVapidBilge Posts: 412
    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    I agree with OGH, a very insightful comment.

    Dealing with the young, they have their sights set aboard and haven't put down roots of their own yet, ignoring, of course, any obligations they may have to their parents, siblings or community. I think the young people you mean are students. The more educated you are the more likely you are to support REMAIN, but the more opportunities to have to go abroad and the more shielded you are from all this cheap foreign labour being imported.

    I can see older Remainians loving seeing their house prices going up, their public sector jobs being protected from foreign competition. Incidentally, how many immigrant presenters do you know on the BBC? I can name Graham Norton, but he doesn't count as an immigrant under the immigration acts. Rather surprising considering the number of foreigners who speak English as a first language, let alone a second.

    So really a smug bunch of ****s.

    PS Did Alastair Meeks ever disclose the number of Polish pension lawyers he knows?
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Scott_P said:

    BenedictWhite said:

    I wonder where it could be held? Somewhere where a good Olympics were held?

    Moscow?
    Can you think of another? Moscow could be a tad embarrassing given that there will be no home competitors.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,611
    Tim_B said:

    Donald Trump announced today in Fresno that he will no longer be using the phrase "Lyin' Ted" and will be reassigning the term "Lyin'". I wonder to whom?

    He's been systematically attacking Warren on the Fauxcohantus stuff for the last week or so. My guess is "Lyin' Liz".
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    peter_from_putney said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Plato_Says said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Crikey

    That's a shit or bust strategy
    Wow, easy to read too much into this but the private polling must be dire, if they were comfortably ahead Osborne would smugly wave it away. Massive gamble.
    Rather than seeing this as being a massive gamble by Osborne, I think it is more a case of him having an incredibly high opinion of his own intellect and thereby possessing a total and irrefutable grasp of all the issues relating to REMAIN being right as regards the EU referendum.
    He probably imagines in his own mind that he can gobble up anything Andrew Neil can throw at him and spit it out .... he may yet prove to be very mistaken.
    No, I think he's a manipulative, cynical, deceitful and utterly nihilistic individual, but he's not stupid.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    https://twitter.com/JunckerEU/status/468847798725918720
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    An epiphany is not the same as a delusion.

    Keep taking the tablets.
    Not sure it helps, but you're very definitely in the "idiot, careerist c*nt" bracket.

    Does that actually help? I'm never entirely sure, when handing out this advice, but I live to serve.


    Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

    This medical advice comes free of charge.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    BenedictWhite said:

    Can you think of another? Moscow could be a tad embarrassing given that there will be no home competitors.

    Oh, right.

    Athens?
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,887
    MaxPB said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    GIN1138 said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sam Coates Times ‏@SamCoatesTimes 29s29 seconds ago
    Exc: George Osborne (finally) to go head 2 head with Andrew Neil @afneil in #euref prime time. 7.30 BBC1 June 8 First face off as Chancellor

    Popcorn.

    Andrew Neil will destroy the little creep.
    Osborne will do OK but your comment about him "being a creep" says more about you than him.



    Hmm, Osborne is a bit weird and possibly creepy. Loads of my leftie friends think he is a creep, but they wouldn't say the same of Dave. Osborne has a "not quite human" quality about him.
    Osborne = Brown

    "Tim" told us this often enough...
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,887
    Ave_it said:

    Really don't approve of all these swear words being disguised by asterisks!

    :-) :-) :-)

    AVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! :open_mouth:

    Are you for "IN" or "OUT" ? :smiley:
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    SeanT said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    SeanT said:

    Just had a weird, epiphanic insight.

    Everyone who supports REMAIN is a c*nt, as well as a traitor, with the possible - just POSSIBLE exception of Southam Observer. They are either old, bitter c*nts, or young, clueless c*nts, or maybe idiot careerist c*nts - but they are still c*nts.

    Once you realise that, it all falls into place.

    An epiphany is not the same as a delusion.

    Keep taking the tablets.
    Not sure it helps, but you're very definitely in the "idiot, careerist c*nt" bracket.

    Does that actually help? I'm never entirely sure, when handing out this advice, but I live to serve.
    Sean, you appear to be in need of cheering up. So in case you missed it have a look at this


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3612784/Captured-laughing-rapist-bragged-buying-blue-eyed-Yazidi-girls-500-ISIS-militant-taken-prisoner-Iraqi-forces-filmed-sex-slave-market.html

    I believe it was you who had a major role in highlighting this tragedy.

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