Not exactly what he said. He said even though he wanted out he wouldn't vote Brexit because those leading it were nutters and he'd prefer to stay with an undemocratic Europe that have Boris Johnson or Michael Gove or Nigel Farage incharge of this country. He's not alone in that as you could judge by the applause
Does he think that Johnson/Gove/Farage will be installed as dictators after we vote Leave or something? Utterly ridiculous. I suppose he'd prefer us to be ruled directly from Brussels rather than have a democratically elected Tory government.
Johnson and Gove might be PM in a few months time in the event of Brexit.
Yes, but they aren't going to be PM forever. I still can't fathom this undemocratic streak which is apparent in some of the arguments surrounding the EU from the left
People are assuming there won't be a general election and that the Cameron-Conservatives who won the election will morph into, say, the Gove-Conservatives who never stood for election. I have nothing against Gove personally but he's a bogeyman for a lot of people. For them, three or four years of such a government (before they have a chance to kick it out) is a nightmare.
Same thing happened with Brown, and we didn't have the Right saying they'd prefer direct rule from Brussels. Maybe there should be an election after a new PM is appointed, but it's a current quirk of our system. To not vote leave because you dislike the prospect of three years of rule by a PM is stupid, especially given that these are quite rare events!
Sure, it's the way our system works. But if a section of the public feels that *anything* would be better than a government led by certain Conservative politicians then that's their view. It's not stupid. It's a testament to how unattractive they find those politicians.
Not sure where "direct rule from Brussels" comes into this. Is that on the ballot paper?
Not on the ballot paper, but I'm sure they would prefer it rather than accept the small chance of someone they don't agree with being elected democratically!
Let's hope that one of the Labour Remainers comes up with this argument in one of the debates. EU=good because evil Tories.
Saw a Fox news Poll mentioned today. Polled May 14-17, 1021 registered voters. MOE +/- 3%
Trump beats Clinton 45% 42%
Favorable / Unfavorable -
Clinton - 37% 61%
Trump - 41% 56%
Clinton wins among women by 14%, Trump wins among men by 22%. Trump leads Clinton among white women - no percentage given. Independents broke for Trump by 16%.
A Rasmussen poll was mentioned as also showing Trump leading, but I didn't see details.
This may all start to shake out a bit when Sanders withdraws.
The same poll had Sanders leading Trump 46 42. RCP still has HRC ahead by 3.3%
Well compared to how much Trump was behind Hillary - and how nasty this campaign will get, I think the odds on HRC becoming POTUS are ludicrously short.
Saw a Fox news Poll mentioned today. Polled May 14-17, 1021 registered voters. MOE +/- 3%
Trump beats Clinton 45% 42%
Favorable / Unfavorable -
Clinton - 37% 61%
Trump - 41% 56%
Clinton wins among women by 14%, Trump wins among men by 22%. Trump leads Clinton among white women - no percentage given. Independents broke for Trump by 16%.
A Rasmussen poll was mentioned as also showing Trump leading, but I didn't see details.
This may all start to shake out a bit when Sanders withdraws.
The same poll had Sanders leading Trump 46 42. RCP still has HRC ahead by 3.3%
Well compared to how much Trump was behind Hillary - and how nasty this campaign will get, I think the odds on HRC becoming POTUS are ludicrously short.
Clinton is the professional politician's professional politician.
And Trump has already thrown that playbook in the trashcan for 2016...
Couple of straws in the wind on Trump's Veep pick...
At tonight's rally and in the Hannity interview, Trump bemoaned the US Airforce having to fly some ancient planes, serviced from scrapyards. An odd comment to throw in from nowhere at this time...
It is reported that Trump has selected John McCain (Arizona)'s lawyer to vet his Veep pick. The same lawyer who vetted Palin in 2008.
The lawyer, A.B. Culvahouse, was quoted in 2012 as saying: "Nevertheless, I advised Sen. McCain that because her duties had never encompassed foreign policy or defense issues Gov. Palin would not be ready to be vice president on Jan. 20, 2009 -- but that I believed she had the presence and wherewithal to grow into the position,"
Three months ago on here I identified a possible pick for Trump.
"Whether it has been to share pictures of their star-packed wedding, to announce the arrival of their two children born by a surrogate mother — even revealing they had her breast milk delivered to them by FedEx — or repeatedly posing for happy family snaps, they have revealed the most intimate moments of their perfect family life.
And if, by so doing, they have also been promoting their own profiles, their latest professional projects, or their charity work, then who are cynics to quibble about the couple invading their own privacy?"
"Whether it has been to share pictures of their star-packed wedding, to announce the arrival of their two children born by a surrogate mother — even revealing they had her breast milk delivered to them by FedEx — or repeatedly posing for happy family snaps, they have revealed the most intimate moments of their perfect family life.
And if, by so doing, they have also been promoting their own profiles, their latest professional projects, or their charity work, then who are cynics to quibble about the couple invading their own privacy?"
Andrew Neil definitely reads this blog. He mentioned on This Week that turnout at the 1975 referendum was lower than the elections in 1974. The only place that I have seen this point made was on here.
Andrew Neil definitely reads this blog. He mentioned on This Week that turnout at the 1975 referendum was lower than the elections in 1974. The only place that I have seen this point made was on here.
I wouldn't call that a slam dunk.... if you a potential discussion point was turnout, you'd check what the previous level was, and what it was in relation to the previous GE if you were going to make that comparison.
Andrew Neil definitely reads this blog. He mentioned on This Week that turnout at the 1975 referendum was lower than the elections in 1974. The only place that I have seen this point made was on here.
Maybe he's 'Vapid Bilge'? I think Michael Crick does too for a similar reason
Andrew Neil definitely reads this blog. He mentioned on This Week that turnout at the 1975 referendum was lower than the elections in 1974. The only place that I have seen this point made was on here.
You don't think he has researchers to do his donkey work?
And of course Trump never makes an appearance without telling the Bernie supporters they are being robbed of the Democratic nomination.
The guy is a freaking genius.
He does seem to have got the hang of this politics thing pretty quickly doesn't he? I have been saying on here for a few weeks now that the damage Bernie is doing to the Democrats may prove terminal in November.
And of course Trump never makes an appearance without telling the Bernie supporters they are being robbed of the Democratic nomination.
The guy is a freaking genius.
He does seem to have got the hang of this politics thing pretty quickly doesn't he? I have been saying on here for a few weeks now that the damage Bernie is doing to the Democrats may prove terminal in November.
It will change in a few weeks once the nomination battle is over. Sanders is is no way doing terminal damage, Hillary still has more Democrats backing her against Trump than Trump has Republicans
Comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4J4n-6Ol1w
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599393/Reports-David-Ginola-rushed-hospital-feared-cardiac-arrest.html
And Trump has already thrown that playbook in the trashcan for 2016...
7 days 2.5%
14 days 3.5%
30 days 5.0%
60 days 7.0%
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13331381/trend.PNG
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36338220
This might make me more likely to vote Leave...as luuvies are nearly always wrong about everything political.
Cue: Landslide...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3599999/Portrait-perfect-marriage-11-years-Elton-proposed-David.html
At tonight's rally and in the Hannity interview, Trump bemoaned the US Airforce having to fly some ancient planes, serviced from scrapyards. An odd comment to throw in from nowhere at this time...
It is reported that Trump has selected John McCain (Arizona)'s lawyer to vet his Veep pick. The same lawyer who vetted Palin in 2008.
The lawyer, A.B. Culvahouse, was quoted in 2012 as saying: "Nevertheless, I advised Sen. McCain that because her duties had never encompassed foreign policy or defense issues Gov. Palin would not be ready to be vice president on Jan. 20, 2009 -- but that I believed she had the presence and wherewithal to grow into the position,"
Three months ago on here I identified a possible pick for Trump.
Congresswoman Martha McSally of Arizona, ex USAF colonel, the first woman to fly combat missions over enemy territory (Iraq).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_McSally
She has already won a stay of execution for her old aircraft - the ancient A-10 Warthog - and is fighting the Pentagon to keep it flying until a proven successor has been identified.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/air-force/2016/05/02/a-10-air-force-f-35-replacement-mcsally-congress/83824780/
Hmm?
McSally (Rep VP) last matched at 50...
http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/eu-referendum-majority-of-uk-students-do-not-know-when-voting-day-is-reveals-poll-a7038371.html
Trump also alluded tonight to the Clintons' treatment of women, and the fact that Bill was forced to settle out of court for $800,000 with one.
He must be referring to the case of Paula Jones, who did in fact get a payment of $850,000 in 1998 from President Bill Clinton.
The lawyers representing Jones were from the libertarian Rutherford Institute in Virginia.
Trump also said quite few disparaging things about the Saudis.
Colonel McSally USAF won a landmark case in 2002 against the Department of Defense, forcing them to lift their ordnance that US servicewomen must wear the Saudi abaya when off-base in that country.
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/pr402
The lawyers representing McSally were from the libertarian Rutherford Institute in Virginia...
Hmm?
"Whether it has been to share pictures of their star-packed wedding, to announce the arrival of their two children born by a surrogate mother — even revealing they had her breast milk delivered to them by FedEx — or repeatedly posing for happy family snaps, they have revealed the most intimate moments of their perfect family life.
And if, by so doing, they have also been promoting their own profiles, their latest professional projects, or their charity work, then who are cynics to quibble about the couple invading their own privacy?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wellbeing/mood-and-mind/norman-lamb-my-sons-mental-health-problems-made-me-determined-to/
9999 Seconds
http://www.mediaite.com/online/polls-now-firmly-on-trumps-side-as-candidate-masterfully-adopts-hillarys-greatest-strength/
He's playing the Media "like a grand piano"...
Forward Into The Future With Viscounts
Huzzah For The Scottish Aristocracy
Luvvies against Brexit.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/05/19/letters-actors-artists-and-writers-look-in-the-mirror-and-see-a/
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/
And of course Trump never makes an appearance without telling the Bernie supporters they are being robbed of the Democratic nomination.
The guy is a freaking genius.
Disappointed really, always liked his music, turning into a complete pratt.
I'm meh about the outcome, doesn't affect me a bit but delighted that a private member's club has put principles ahead of money.
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