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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited May 2016
    http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-05-04/poll-results-support-for-conservatives-and-ukip-up/

    I'm sure tories will be opposition in Wales now. I predict 14 seats for them with some kippers coming back to tories where they can win. I know many ukippers in Wales would never vote Tory but I think the polls are underestimating their support and overestimating ukip support especially on the fptp polls.
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited May 2016
    surbiton said:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36200366

    Finally, a good decision.

    Indeed well done Cameron . At last he finally sees sense and does the right thing by saving these poor children from persecution and possible death in the war torn and ravaged countries of............Errrr........

    Greece, Italy and France ?
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    richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    The population of the UK requires..needs..and demands an effective and strong opposition..Labour are failing to provide one...why?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    nunu said:

    http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-05-04/poll-results-support-for-conservatives-and-ukip-up/

    I'm sure tories will be opposition in Wales now. I predict 14 seats for them.

    It's surprisingly good polling. Labour seem to be finally losing enough core support to make a difference.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Labour are so lucky in Wales they have such a divided opposition.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2016
    Can people explain how Trump is going to etch a sketch or tack to centre when he announces his Heritage Foundation approved list of SCOTUS candidates?
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Trump stands tall. Trump stands alone.
    Dear old Donald Trump,
    won't give @JackW a bone.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,622
    'Prof Roger Scully of Cardiff University said, if the results were applied in an uniform way across Wales, Labour would win 27 seats, Plaid Cymru 12, the Conservative 11, UKIP 8 and the Lib Dems two.'

    Labour - UKIP coalition?
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    richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Trump is probably wetting himself right now.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    edited May 2016
    Hi tyson. Time to get a drink switch on Rai Uno and hope for a miracle
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    edited May 2016
    So changes from 2011 are Lab -3, Con -3, LD -3, PC +1 UKIP +8

    I'm not sure if it's possible for Labour/LD to sneak over 30, but that would make life easier for Labour I'm guessing.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753

    nunu said:

    http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-05-04/poll-results-support-for-conservatives-and-ukip-up/

    I'm sure tories will be opposition in Wales now. I predict 14 seats for them.

    It's surprisingly good polling. Labour seem to be finally losing enough core support to make a difference.
    Does that poll reflect certainty to vote? will Welsh labour turn out for Jezzah? I very seriously have my doubts.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,008

    The population of the UK requires..needs..and demands an effective and strong opposition..Labour are failing to provide one...why?

    Could have said the same about the Tories 15 years ago
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Exciting news - reservoirs in the Severn Trent area are now at 97.4% of capacity. There will be no hosepipe ban this summer in the Midlands.

    Given your track record in this. I am now worried :)
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    richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    HYFUD..This is now...not 15 years ago..
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,722
    I think judges would be hesitant to overturn a democratically arrived at result. Particularly as the incumbent would be barred from standing again. They will give the benefit of the smallest doubt about expense reports. But the facts don't look good for the Conservatives on my understanding.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    taffys said:

    nunu said:

    http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-05-04/poll-results-support-for-conservatives-and-ukip-up/

    I'm sure tories will be opposition in Wales now. I predict 14 seats for them.

    It's surprisingly good polling. Labour seem to be finally losing enough core support to make a difference.
    Does that poll reflect certainty to vote? will Welsh labour turn out for Jezzah? I very seriously have my doubts.
    The Welsh polls in 2011 overestimated Labour quite badly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_for_Wales_election,_2011
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    MikeK said:

    Trump stands tall. Trump stands alone.
    Dear old Donald Trump,
    won't give @JackW a bone.

    After your spectacular predictions for UKIP last May I can't tell how relieved I am that you are all out for "The Donald" .... :smile:
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    Well all the 3 main news channels seen tonight celebrating "UK to resettle child refugees from Europe".

    Not that long ago we had in the news the scandal of thousands of children in care suffering sex abuse and neglect in the UK.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,091
    Talking about investigations is there any chance the authorities might investigate Ian Lavery's financial transactions ?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited May 2016
    You have to look at

    http://www.tedcruz.com

    right now
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    Artist said:

    So changes from 2011 are Lab -3, Con -3, LD -3, PC +1 UKIP +8

    I'm not sure if it's possible for Labour/LD to sneak over 30, but that would make life easier for Labour I'm guessing.

    Interesting to note that UKIP didn't contest the constituency seats in 2011.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Just 8.5 per cent of British Jews would vote Labour if there was an election tomorrow, an exclusive JC poll has revealed.

    And 38.5 per cent of Jews give Labour the worst possible mark – 5 out of 5 – for antisemitism among party members and elected representatives.

    The poll results come as Jeremy Corbyn's party is engulfed by an antisemitism crisis now entering its fourth month.
    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/157746/labour-support-among-british-jews-collapses-85-cent
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    Fenster said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    tyson said:

    I think strategically Cameron should go in for the kill with Corbyn. Corbyn is not going to lead the Labour party into the next election- so better get him changed sooner rather than later and see the party divide catastrophically.

    I actually thought today Corbyn appeared like he rather be anyone else than the HoC. There is no coming back from these kind of cowering, weak, flat footed performances.

    kle4 said:

    Wanderer said:

    tyson said:

    Watching the dynamics between Cameron and Corbyn at PMQ's is interesting-.. .

    I haven't seen today's episode yet but the kind of thing you describe, while it might engender some sympathy for Corbyn, won't, I think, make people vote for him. So from that point of view it is probably good business for Cameron.
    Cameron can be good with a cruel jibe but can overdo it sometimes but I suppose if it's overwhelming it's about making an impression. Cameron is gone in 2-3 years at most, if people think he's a bit of a bastard but also that Corbyn is weak, that could be worth it in his view as even if Corbyn improves he is working against an initial impression. I haven't watched in a while, he usually seems distracted to me, uncertain, more than anything else.
    I am not sure Corbyn really cares that much. He is not that interested in Parliament, never has been. He can take being shouted at by Cameron for ten minutes once a week. Whatever else he is, he seems to be pretty impervious to vocal hostility. I reckon he can compartmentalise very well.

    He looked genuinely shaken today. More than I have seen before.
    I've just watched it. I was surprised Corbyn didn't fight back harder (or at all). He never drew attention to the fact that Cameron was brushing aside his questions then asking his own. He just seemed to accept that that was how it worked.
    Corbyn ain't dirty enough.

    If Cameron was digging at me over Hamas I'd tell him my so-called Hamas friends living in poverty in Palestine don't have the cash to kill as many people as the governnemt's good friends in Saudi Arabia do.

    It's a bit below the belt but hey ho... better than just taking a shoeing over something he said years back.
    Would be entertainingly effective imo.

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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,091

    Well all the 3 main news channels seen tonight celebrating "UK to resettle child refugees from Europe".

    Not that long ago we had in the news the scandal of thousands of children in care suffering sex abuse and neglect in the UK.

    I wonder what the actual age of the 'child refugees' will be.

    Lets have a look at what happened in Sweden:

    ' What is surprising is that if you look at the breakdown of the ages of applicants in Sweden, there's a huge bump in the figures at the age of 16 - often unaccompanied minors arriving without a parent or guardian.

    And 92% of unaccompanied minors aged 16 and 17 years old are male. So why is this? '

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35444173

    But why do I suspect that the media will have images of six year old girls ?

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    Scott_P said:

    You have to look at

    http://www.tedcruz.com

    right now

    Oh dear.
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    Is the forecast I read below of Labour losing Cardiff Central to the Lib Dems really viable with the LDs forecast to be just 6% across Wales?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,471

    NEW THREAD NEW THREAD

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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    JackW said:

    MikeK said:

    Trump stands tall. Trump stands alone.
    Dear old Donald Trump,
    won't give @JackW a bone.

    After your spectacular predictions for UKIP last May I can't tell how relieved I am that you are all out for "The Donald" .... :smile:
    I made it plain some months ago that I was letting my membership of UKIP lapse. It has now of this date, lapsed. I still support most of it's aims, but I no longer have the inclination to attend dreary branch meetings or even yearly conferences.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Is the forecast I read below of Labour losing Cardiff Central to the Lib Dems really viable with the LDs forecast to be just 6% across Wales?

    Who's predicting Labour will lose Cardiff Central?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,008
    Scott_P said:

    You have to look at

    http://www.tedcruz.com

    right now

    Good to see the GOP coming together behind Trump
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    AndyJS said:

    Is the forecast I read below of Labour losing Cardiff Central to the Lib Dems really viable with the LDs forecast to be just 6% across Wales?

    Who's predicting Labour will lose Cardiff Central?
    http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2016-05-04/poll-results-support-for-conservatives-and-ukip-up/

    "the Liberal Democrats are projected to capture Cardiff Central"
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    MikeK said:

    JackW said:

    MikeK said:

    Trump stands tall. Trump stands alone.
    Dear old Donald Trump,
    won't give @JackW a bone.

    After your spectacular predictions for UKIP last May I can't tell how relieved I am that you are all out for "The Donald" .... :smile:
    I made it plain some months ago that I was letting my membership of UKIP lapse. It has now of this date, lapsed. I still support most of it's aims, but I no longer have the inclination to attend dreary branch meetings or even yearly conferences.
    I am happily liaising with kippers and between us we already have enough deliverers for 3,000 houses agreed in a few emails and a couple of chats. The enthusiasm is much greater than for the GE.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    What a shock

    Trinity Mirror’s New Day to close on Friday - exclusive from @MrSteerpike https://t.co/LZHThR755S

    A whole two months
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