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    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
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    If Leicester City can win the EPL, Leave can win the Referendum.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    I'm curious to see what Remain do next, still favourites but the gap narrowing and momentum undoubtedly with Leave.

    They've done Project Fear and name calling, is Dave going for the "trust me, I'm a straight kind of guy" act next?

    It will be interesting once the campaign proper starts and vote leave gets designation. I despise the EU with a passion but still neutral as stated previously. I will reveal my decision eventually as I do have a postal vote and will be voting
    You despise the EU with a passion but still might vote to stay in?

    Who feeds you these lines?

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096

    Fenster said:

    I'm voting leave.

    Instinctively if feels like something I must do.

    I love the different countries of Europe and wish peace and prosperity to all but it bugs me - and it has always bugged me - to see smug, power hungry suits like Juncker and Schulz back slapping one another as if they are masters of the fucking universe, while sneering at us little people.

    Sod it..I'm for out. And I think we'll do just fine.

    PS - and for those who think I'm misinformed... yep, guilty as charged..But my vote still counts.

    Me, too.

    But I do know (1) the Eurozone and its younng unemployed are b*ggered for many years to come, (2) Europe is awash with many hundreds of thousands more un- or counterproductive people, and that's just 2015, and (3) the IMF did not warn of global economic damege when the cretinous Eurozone was started.
    do remember that the eurozone has a rather better job creation record than the US

    see http://www.thstailwinds.com/the-labour-market-labyrinth/
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    If Leicester City can win the EPL, Leave can win the Referendum.

    Only if the Leave campaign hires an Italian manager and signs a couple of French speaking african muslims in starring roles!

    Even I wouldn't make Leave 5000/1 though.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I don't know if there is such a thing as BBC2+1 but I just caught the last 20 minutes of "Europe: Them or Us" with Nick Robinson.

    Very interesting, and not obviously biased, which surprised me.

    Heath interviewed admitting he covered up the true intent from Day One.

    Pompidou's aide stated Heath was the only British politician who truly believed in the European ideal. Politicians filmed opposing Britain's entry in the programme included Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskill, Jim Callaghan, Tony Benn, Enoch Powell and Teddy Taylor and De Gaulle, those in favour included Macmillan (after initial reluctance), Roy Jenkins, Douglas Hurd, Christopher Soames, Shirley Williams, Norman Tebbitt (though when interviewed he called it the folly of youth), Pompidou, Helmut Schmidt and of course Heath, if anything slightly more Tories than Labour
    The one politician from the last 50 or so years I detest more than any other it is Shirley Williams.
    Helped take the UK into the EU and began the process of shutting down grammar schools
    And now parades herself as some grandee and the font of wisdom.

    Disgusting woman who has killed the aspirations of bright working class kids and reduced social mobility. It's almost like they don't want to educate the masses.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,926
    edited April 2016

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
    Jack's ARSE understimated LEAVE during SINDY and given this contest is closer than SINDY, were ARSE to understimate LEAVE by the same margin as it did in SINDY I think it'd be UKVTL rather than UKVTS!!!!!!!!
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    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    Personally I think if Dave had been a Leaver the campaign would effectively already be over and Leave would walk it
    That isn't even in question. It'd be at least 65:35 to Leave.
    And Big G from South Wales would be No.1 cheerleader for Leave.
    Don't know a Big G from SOUTH Wales and as I have said already on several occasions I am neutral and will readily accept the will of the people
    Sorry about the geography, but from everything you have posted on this issue you will do exactly as Cameron tells you to.
    I am a conservative party member and do support David Cameron generally but I am not happy with foreign aid and certainly do not do what anyone tells me to. My wife of 52 years will confirm this to you
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,187

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
    Probably right
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
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    OllyTOllyT Posts: 4,924
    Speedy said:

    On Topic.

    The 10/10 certainty to vote with ICM is very encouraging for Leave, Remain only take the lead with those 7/10 and under, same figures with the TNS poll.

    The certainty to vote question gives an 8 point lead for Leave in both ICM and TNS.
    With the ORB phone poll the 10/10 certainty makes a 7 point Remain lead into a tie.

    This of course tells us something that we already know, if turnout is lower than the GE then Leave get the upper hand, if it's higher then Remain get the upper hand.

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    Personally I think if Dave had been a Leaver the campaign would effectively already be over and Leave would walk it
    My hunch is that if Leave look like they could win two weeks out there will be a big turnout and remain will win comfortably. I think if remain was +10 points ahead throughout the campaign it would result in a low turnout and leave could sneak it.

    There are over 2 months to go - the remain side need a kick p the backside and the possibility of leave actually pulling it off should do it.

    I suspect that what leave are really terrified of is a big turnout.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
    Surely the latest developments will means the ARSE gets a bit of a squeeze.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I don't know if there is such a thing as BBC2+1 but I just caught the last 20 minutes of "Europe: Them or Us" with Nick Robinson.

    Very interesting, and not obviously biased, which surprised me.

    Heath interviewed admitting he covered up the true intent from Day One.

    Pompidou's aide stated Heath was the only British politician who truly believed in the European ideal. Politicians filmed opposing Britain's entry in the programme included Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskill, Jim Callaghan, Tony Benn, Enoch Powell and Teddy Taylor and De Gaulle, those in favour included Macmillan (after initial reluctance), Roy Jenkins, Douglas Hurd, Christopher Soames, Shirley Williams, Norman Tebbitt (though when interviewed he called it the folly of youth), Pompidou, Helmut Schmidt and of course Heath, if anything slightly more Tories than Labour
    The one politician from the last 50 or so years I detest more than any other it is Shirley Williams.
    Helped take the UK into the EU and began the process of shutting down grammar schools
    Though Mrs Thatcher did close even more while sitting n Ted Heaths cabinet cheerleading for the EU!
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    AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 2,869

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    It has occurred to me that Leave's polling share might be drifting upwards because they have a lower profile.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2016
    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
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    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
    Err, it was Nigel Farage's former adviser who said he expected Banks to take legal action.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,926
    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Blimey...
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    OllyTOllyT Posts: 4,924

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    Personally I think if Dave had been a Leaver the campaign would effectively already be over and Leave would walk it

    and if my auntie had balls etc etc. As I have said before there have never been a majority of Tory MPs in favour of leaving the EU so it is not altogether surprising that the current leadership is against Brexit.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Meanwhile, John Whittingdale about to get a going over on Newsnight.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,686

    Major Tory donors are preparing to fund a grassroots campaign to leave the European Union following David Cameron’s decision to spend millions of pounds on a pro-EU leaflet, the Telegraph can disclose.

    Members of the Midlands Industrial Council, a group of businessmen which have bankrolled the Conservative party for 20 years, are planning to donate between £4million and £5million to the anti-EU campaign over the next 10 weeks.

    It will be seen as an attempt to redress the balance following the Government’s controversial decision to spend £9.3million of taxpayers’ money in order to send a pro-EU leaflet to every home in Britain.

    David Wall, the Council's secretary, says his members are "incandescent with rage" over Mr Cameron's decision to send the leaflet.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/conservative-donors-prepare-to-sink-5million-into-brexit-campaig/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    I donated an extra £100 to Vote Leave off the back of it too.

    Never test the boundaries of the British sense of fair play.

    It's not on the syllabus, but it's the most basic of British values.
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    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,037

    Members of the Midlands Industrial Council, a group of businessmen which have bankrolled the Conservative party for 20 years, are planning to donate between £4million and £5million to the anti-EU campaign over the next 10 weeks.

    Well, they are considerably richer than yeaw... :)
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited April 2016
    GIN1138 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
    Jack's ARSE understimated LEAVE during SINDY and given this contest is closer than SINDY, were ARSE to understimate LEAVE by the same margin as it did in SINDY I think it'd be UKVTL rather than UKVTS!!!!!!!!
    Jacks ARSE was more accurate than conventional polls or the bookies on the indyref, and the GE.

    Watch the ARSE4EU carefully and grab what emerges.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
    Err, it was Nigel Farage's former adviser who said he expected Banks to take legal action.
    Oh I see, now you're hanging on Raheem's every word.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Danny565 said:

    Meanwhile, John Whittingdale about to get a going over on Newsnight.

    He'll enjoy that, won't he?
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    If Leicester City can win the EPL, Leave can win the Referendum.

    If Leicester City can win the EPL, the Lib Dems can win the next General Election.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.
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    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    He's single isn't he?
    What has he done wrong?
    The Domme looks quite nice.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rcs1000 said:

    Fenster said:

    I'm voting leave.

    Instinctively if feels like something I must do.

    I love the different countries of Europe and wish peace and prosperity to all but it bugs me - and it has always bugged me - to see smug, power hungry suits like Juncker and Schulz back slapping one another as if they are masters of the fucking universe, while sneering at us little people.

    Sod it..I'm for out. And I think we'll do just fine.

    PS - and for those who think I'm misinformed... yep, guilty as charged..But my vote still counts.

    Me, too.

    But I do know (1) the Eurozone and its younng unemployed are b*ggered for many years to come, (2) Europe is awash with many hundreds of thousands more un- or counterproductive people, and that's just 2015, and (3) the IMF did not warn of global economic damege when the cretinous Eurozone was started.
    do remember that the eurozone has a rather better job creation record than the US

    see http://www.thstailwinds.com/the-labour-market-labyrinth/
    Are you counting the working age population there or all adults 15+? Ie are you counting pensioners as "not working"?
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Cameron has totally messed up win or lose, he is pleading with loyalists to vote Remain or he'll have to resign.

    Yes mate, but you've already told us you're leaving anyway.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096

    rcs1000 said:

    Fenster said:

    I'm voting leave.

    Instinctively if feels like something I must do.

    I love the different countries of Europe and wish peace and prosperity to all but it bugs me - and it has always bugged me - to see smug, power hungry suits like Juncker and Schulz back slapping one another as if they are masters of the fucking universe, while sneering at us little people.

    Sod it..I'm for out. And I think we'll do just fine.

    PS - and for those who think I'm misinformed... yep, guilty as charged..But my vote still counts.

    Me, too.

    But I do know (1) the Eurozone and its younng unemployed are b*ggered for many years to come, (2) Europe is awash with many hundreds of thousands more un- or counterproductive people, and that's just 2015, and (3) the IMF did not warn of global economic damege when the cretinous Eurozone was started.
    do remember that the eurozone has a rather better job creation record than the US

    see http://www.thstailwinds.com/the-labour-market-labyrinth/
    Are you counting the working age population there or all adults 15+? Ie are you counting pensioners as "not working"?
    the numbers are the same if you use 16-64

    its worth reading this too: http://www.thstailwinds.com/what-is-the-true-level-of-us-unemployment/
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
    Err, it was Nigel Farage's former adviser who said he expected Banks to take legal action.
    Oh I see, now you're hanging on Raheem's every word.
    Can't stand Raheem one bit.

    Not since he messed us around and signed for City. Traitorous pigdog.
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    I think one of the reasons that Leave is doing so well in the polls at the moment is that the parties for Remain (Lab, LD, SNP, PC and Green) are concentrating on the May elections first.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,686

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
    Err, it was Nigel Farage's former adviser who said he expected Banks to take legal action.
    Banks should be locked up for the next two months.
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    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    I guess a few remainers will be discovering their inner puritan.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
    No, as other leading Tory MPs have been able to "hang out" with prostitutes and have not had their career prospects harmed in the slightest.
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    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    This is why the betting markets are backing Remain. Dave is very lucky in his choice of opponents

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/719996566841520128

    Who will he sue?
    I'm assuming he'll go after the electoral commission.

    If he really wants to damage Leave, he could ask for an injunction to stop Vote Leave from doing anything whilst the case is heard.
    On what grounds can he sue the electoral commission? Funny how Banks the egotist is becoming Remain's best hope. He'll throw a tantrum, make some threats and sulk while Vote Leave get on with things.
    I suspect he'll ask for a judicial review of the whole process and cite some of the deleted tweets today.
    You mean you hope, not suspect. Straw clutching now from Remain.
    Err, it was Nigel Farage's former adviser who said he expected Banks to take legal action.
    Banks should be locked up for the next two months.
    Nobody's heard of him, he's just an attention seeker, he'll issue threats but even if he sues the referendum will be long gone.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,037
    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Oh right, lets hope he didn't have a fiver on the National, that really would be the end.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096
    edited April 2016
    viewcode said:

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
    are you discussing the person who allegedly decided they were assaulted weeks after the event?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    is that something kinky?
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    MP_SE said:

    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
    No, as other leading Tory MPs have been able to "hang out" with prostitutes and have not had their career prospects harmed in the slightest.
    You may be right but the problem is that his position as Culture Secretary compromised the press and he didn't tell David Cameron before he was appointed to the postion
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    rcs1000 said:

    viewcode said:

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
    are you discussing the person who allegedly decided they were assaulted weeks after the event?
    After the cheque bounced?
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    rcs1000 said:

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    is that something kinky?
    LOL
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    He's single isn't he?
    What has he done wrong?
    The Domme looks quite nice.
    It's not about his private life, it's about the newspapers.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    MP_SE said:

    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
    No, as other leading Tory MPs have been able to "hang out" with prostitutes and have not had their career prospects harmed in the slightest.
    You may be right but the problem is that his position as Culture Secretary compromised the press and he didn't tell David Cameron before he was appointed to the postion
    Wow, this is extraordinary infighting. A tory member suggesting a tory cabinet minister should stand down for having sex.

    Exactly how do you expect these people to conduct themselves?
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    Helluva of a dead cat from John Whittingdale.

    PMQs is going to be fun
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    To which the response from the Tory seats will be 'who?', with perhaps not much more of a negative reaction from the WWC labour vote.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Someone on Newsnight getting annoyed that the papers aren't interested in the John Whittingdale story.
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    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096

    rcs1000 said:

    viewcode said:

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
    are you discussing the person who allegedly decided they were assaulted weeks after the event?
    After the cheque bounced?
    I don't really want my father sued so I'm not going to share anything about the alleged scandal.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096
    As an aside, the alleged scandal of which I speak is unlikely to have any effect on the Brexit vote.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,037
    rcs1000 said:

    viewcode said:

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
    are you discussing the person who allegedly decided they were assaulted weeks after the event?
    No, I mean the superinjuncted couple. Neither is it the prominent REMAINER with the compromising photograph. In both cases we cannot name nor speculate on their identities without subjecting OGH to death by lawyer.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Well this hooker is less than impressed!

    https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    Aren't UKIP doing well in many safe Labour seats?
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    viewcode said:

    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    It's not that one that we all know about, it's the other one that we all know about
    are you discussing the person who allegedly decided they were assaulted weeks after the event?
    After the cheque bounced?
    I don't really want my father sued so I'm not going to share anything about the alleged scandal.
    Mine was a sad attempt at a joke, I have no wish to get anyone in trouble, particularly as I know nothing about the alleged scandal.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2016
    AndyJS said:

    Someone on Newsnight getting annoyed that the papers aren't interested in the John Whittingdale story.

    A lot of words are said to replace one sentence.
    "Was it Blackmail ? "
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096
    HYUFD said:

    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats

    Please don't give them ideas.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    I'm bored of this Whittingdale "story" already, and it's only been half an hour.
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    MP_SE said:

    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
    No, as other leading Tory MPs have been able to "hang out" with prostitutes and have not had their career prospects harmed in the slightest.
    You may be right but the problem is that his position as Culture Secretary compromised the press and he didn't tell David Cameron before he was appointed to the postion
    Wow, this is extraordinary infighting. A tory member suggesting a tory cabinet minister should stand down for having sex.

    Exactly how do you expect these people to conduct themselves?
    I am not calling for him to stand down but others may well
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,096
    hunchman said:

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Well this hooker is less than impressed!

    https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
    Is that a part of the 234 day hooker-politician super-cycle?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Well this hooker is less than impressed!

    https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
    Is that a part of the 234 day hooker-politician super-cycle?
    Of course!
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,631

    Helluva of a dead cat from John Whittingdale.

    PMQs is going to be fun

    Feels like Whittingdale is proving his loyalty to the PM more than anything else. Why else would they send him onto Newsnight to reveal that he slept with a prostitute the night before PMQs where the PM is bound to get some extremely awkward questions about his tax affairs.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,416
    Still think the don't knows will ultimately break for remain in a fairly big way swinging it but a series of Leave leads would be interesting....

    How would the government react? How would the EU?
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,324
    Sounds as if Hacked Off are demanding a full expose of Whittingdale:

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/hacked-founder-says-press-had-obligation-write-about-john-whittingdales-private-life

    He was an irritant to them as an opposer of state regulation of the press.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    As an aside, the alleged scandal of which I speak is unlikely to have any effect on the Brexit vote.

    If it's something that should be consigned to the depths of TMZ, then yes.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    MaxPB said:

    Helluva of a dead cat from John Whittingdale.

    PMQs is going to be fun

    Feels like Whittingdale is proving his loyalty to the PM more than anything else. Why else would they send him onto Newsnight to reveal that he slept with a prostitute the night before PMQs where the PM is bound to get some extremely awkward questions about his tax affairs.
    After the last couple of days I expect Jezza to choose a different attack line for tommorow. Tax off the agenda methinks.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @GraemeDemianyk: It's late but Hacked Off seems to be saying papers should have published an embarrassing story about a politician's private life #newsnight
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,298
    edited April 2016
    Speedy said:

    The Newspaper Scandal is out in the public at last.
    Wowzers..........clearly a paper was going to run it after all.

    Not so much dead cat, as live lion being plonked down..

    I presume we can now reveal that Boris was offered Wittingdale's job before he was given it.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,926

    Sounds as if Hacked Off are demanding a full expose of Whittingdale:

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/hacked-founder-says-press-had-obligation-write-about-john-whittingdales-private-life

    He was an irritant to them as an opposer of state regulation of the press.

    Is Hacked Off still in business?
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    MP_SE said:

    AndyJS said:

    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: @johnwhittingdale admits he had relationship with sex worker and he didn't tell no 10 before taking Culture Sec job - more on #newsnight

    Why should he have told them?
    Is this going to be the second cabinet resignation in two months
    No, as other leading Tory MPs have been able to "hang out" with prostitutes and have not had their career prospects harmed in the slightest.
    You may be right but the problem is that his position as Culture Secretary compromised the press and he didn't tell David Cameron before he was appointed to the postion
    Wow, this is extraordinary infighting. A tory member suggesting a tory cabinet minister should stand down for having sex.

    Exactly how do you expect these people to conduct themselves?
    I am not calling for him to stand down but others may well
    So you don;t have a problem with it then?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,416
    So are we to now assume that Corbyn's embarrassing effort of a belated tax return did not declare £6000 of taxable income? How could he get his tax deducted at source from his OAP? Surely that is always paid gross isn't it?

    His local government pension may have been paid net but was it net at the basic rate or his higher rate?

    Still not convinced about his lodger.

    Or about not having a penny of interest or investment income.

    Or about not having any taxable benefits in his Parliamentary allowances.

    It is starting to look like his tax is underpaid by enough to have the Revenue threatening a member of the public with dire consequences.

    But let's talk about a single man's rather sad sex life. Much more interesting.
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    MaxPB said:

    Helluva of a dead cat from John Whittingdale.

    PMQs is going to be fun

    Feels like Whittingdale is proving his loyalty to the PM more than anything else. Why else would they send him onto Newsnight to reveal that he slept with a prostitute the night before PMQs where the PM is bound to get some extremely awkward questions about his tax affairs.
    The story was going to break I think in the traditional papers, it has been doing the rounds for a while.

    I hope he doesn't have to resign. But we live in fevered times.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Sounds as if Hacked Off are demanding a full expose of Whittingdale:

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/hacked-founder-says-press-had-obligation-write-about-john-whittingdales-private-life

    He was an irritant to them as an opposer of state regulation of the press.

    They should look at the possible perpetrators, not the victim.

    Whittingdale was the victim, the question is who could have possibly profited from not exposing him.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,187

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I don't know if there is such a thing as BBC2+1 but I just caught the last 20 minutes of "Europe: Them or Us" with Nick Robinson.

    Very interesting, and not obviously biased, which surprised me.

    Heath interviewed admitting he covered up the true intent from Day One.

    Pompidou's aide stated Heath was the only British politician who truly believed in the European ideal. Politicians filmed opposing Britain's entry in the programme included Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskill, Jim Callaghan, Tony Benn, Enoch Powell and Teddy Taylor and De Gaulle, those in favour included Macmillan (after initial reluctance), Roy Jenkins, Douglas Hurd, Christopher Soames, Shirley Williams, Norman Tebbitt (though when interviewed he called it the folly of youth), Pompidou, Helmut Schmidt and of course Heath, if anything slightly more Tories than Labour
    The one politician from the last 50 or so years I detest more than any other it is Shirley Williams.
    Helped take the UK into the EU and began the process of shutting down grammar schools
    Though Mrs Thatcher did close even more while sitting n Ted Heaths cabinet cheerleading for the EU!
    Though she later regretted both
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,187
    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    To which the response from the Tory seats will be 'who?', with perhaps not much more of a negative reaction from the WWC labour vote.
    George Galloway is probably better known than most of the Cabinet
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    OllyTOllyT Posts: 4,924

    I think one of the reasons that Leave is doing so well in the polls at the moment is that the parties for Remain (Lab, LD, SNP, PC and Green) are concentrating on the May elections first.

    Spot on. we are in a phoney war at the moment, it's all about the in-fighting in the Tories at the moment. PB is so overwhelmingly right wing it passes it by..
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,187
    weejonnie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    Aren't UKIP doing well in many safe Labour seats?
    They win a few white working class voters in coastal towns (most of those who are anti immigration are UKIP now anyway not Labour), not inner cities and certainly not the ethnic minority and public sector core vote
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    DavidL said:

    So are we to now assume that Corbyn's embarrassing effort of a belated tax return did not declare £6000 of taxable income? How could he get his tax deducted at source from his OAP? Surely that is always paid gross isn't it?

    His local government pension may have been paid net but was it net at the basic rate or his higher rate?

    Still not convinced about his lodger.

    Or about not having a penny of interest or investment income.

    Or about not having any taxable benefits in his Parliamentary allowances.

    It is starting to look like his tax is underpaid by enough to have the Revenue threatening a member of the public with dire consequences.

    But let's talk about a single man's rather sad sex life. Much more interesting.

    Whittingdale is part of the SaveJez campaign.

    Tories would be buggered if Labour ditched Corbyn before 2020.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2016
    HYUFD said:

    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    To which the response from the Tory seats will be 'who?', with perhaps not much more of a negative reaction from the WWC labour vote.
    George Galloway is probably better known than most of the Cabinet
    I think Corbyn and Cameron are better known than Galloway, Dennis Skinner and IDS.
    However Farage is on par as a party leader but his popularity numbers are up, higher than Cameron's I think.
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    AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 2,869
    DavidL said:

    So are we to now assume that Corbyn's embarrassing effort of a belated tax return did not declare £6000 of taxable income? How could he get his tax deducted at source from his OAP? Surely that is always paid gross isn't it?

    His local government pension may have been paid net but was it net at the basic rate or his higher rate?

    Still not convinced about his lodger.

    Or about not having a penny of interest or investment income.

    Or about not having any taxable benefits in his Parliamentary allowances.

    It is starting to look like his tax is underpaid by enough to have the Revenue threatening a member of the public with dire consequences.

    But let's talk about a single man's rather sad sex life. Much more interesting.

    DWP set off one's State Pension against the initial allowance, and give you a tax code that informs the payers of your salary or other income how much remaining tax you need to be paying.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,187
    hunchman said:

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Well this hooker is less than impressed!

    https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
    Whittingdale hardly has the looks of a Greek Adonis and is single, so if he feels he has to pay to satisfy his energies that is a private matter between him and the lady in question
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I suspect this is all noise, fed by people who respond to opinion polls as a way of commenting on the current media narrative. The government has taken a media drubbing over the last week. No surprise that fewer respondents are prepared to appear sympathetic towards one of its pet projects. If Dave had been a Leaver, Remain would be surging now.

    It's like a repeat of this:

    "Oh why did we lose the Referendum, if only Nick Clegg was against AV"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP0jxj1-EQ
    Ha, ha! But a more apposite comparison with Clegg is the massive poll surges he had during the debates of 2005, which vanished like fairy dust when people came to vote. Opinion polling is now just a glorified version of the 'Like' facility on the internet - facile, frivolous and with no predictive content of how people will actually behave.
    If you remember the NOtoAV campaign distributed leaflets with Nick Clegg's face.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/av-get-clegg-campaign

    Now the Leave camp has 2 juicy faces to put on it's leaflets, one of Corbyn to be sent to safe Tory seats, and one of Cameron to be sent to safe Labour seats.

    That should do the trick.
    You could just as easily say Remain could send leaflets with Galloway's and Dennis Skinner's face on to safe Tory seats and IDS and Farage's face to safe Labour seats
    To which the response from the Tory seats will be 'who?', with perhaps not much more of a negative reaction from the WWC labour vote.
    George Galloway is probably better known than most of the Cabinet
    I think Corbyn and Cameron are better known than Galloway, Dennis Skinner and IDS, however Farage is on par as a party leader but his popularity numbers are up.
    A decent chunk of Labour's ex-coalfield's heartland probably trusts patriotic Farage more than Jeremy 'hates our soldiers' Corbyn.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,298
    edited April 2016
    If his story stands up, it isn't quite as reported and perhaps explains why some newspapers didn't run it. If it doesn't check out he will be toast.

    http://order-order.com/2016/04/12/read-john-whittingdale-statement-in-full/
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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leave will probably get a phone poll lead next.

    If they do then that will finally awaken the betting markets as to the direction of polling.
    The general trend is exactly as it has always been, a very narrow Remain. ICM online has already had Leave leads before
    Indeed the ICM panel changes its mind even more than SeanT.

    The only worthy oracle is Jacks ARSE. All others are speaking out of their fundaments.
    Er, I've been quite boringly consistent - for about 2 years or more - in my prediction of a fairly narrow REMAIN win. That has not changed.
    This is true. Sean tends to reserve his (extremely entertaining) bouts of doubt and hysteria until they really count. Last couple of weeks and all hell will break loose. I've already bought the beanbag and the popcorn.
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,048
    Speedy said:

    Sounds as if Hacked Off are demanding a full expose of Whittingdale:

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/hacked-founder-says-press-had-obligation-write-about-john-whittingdales-private-life

    He was an irritant to them as an opposer of state regulation of the press.

    They should look at the possible perpetrators, not the victim.

    Whittingdale was the victim, the question is who could have possibly profited from not exposing him.
    Well that one is clear.
    Papers have something on you, but you regulate the papers and their rivals in the other media - what do you do?
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    If his story stands up, it isn't quite as reported and perhaps explains why some newspapers didn't run it.

    http://order-order.com/2016/04/12/read-john-whittingdale-statement-in-full/

    Yup
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    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    We always hear about the AV thread right after it gets pulled, *sad face*
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    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    excuse my ignorance but what does AV stand for? I have seen if mentioned before but always as an abbreviation.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,926
    edited April 2016

    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    excuse my ignorance but what does AV stand for? I have seen if mentioned before but always as an abbreviation.
    Alternative Vote...

    Discussion of it generally sends the PB community into a state of Zzzzzzzzzz.....
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    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    We always hear about the AV thread right after it gets pulled, *sad face*
    I gave you an AV thread earlier on this year.

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/01/24/electoral-reform-might-not-be-the-panacea-the-left-think-it-is/

    But Mike considers my Donald Trump todger thread as the new gold standard of threads.
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    rcs1000 said:

    As an aside, the alleged scandal of which I speak is unlikely to have any effect on the Brexit vote.

    Was it the one that was shared with us on Friday?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,298
    GIN1138 said:

    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    excuse my ignorance but what does AV stand for? I have seen if mentioned before but always as an abbreviation.
    Alternative Vote...

    Discussion of it generally sends the PB community into a state of Zzzzzzzzzz.....
    I miss the previous in joke with the link to Sion Simon legendary article :-)
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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited April 2016
    HYUFD said:

    hunchman said:

    What the fuck does the Culture Secretary do with his time and who cares if he visits prostitutes? I've never heard of the bloke.

    He is one of the cabinet leavers
    Well this hooker is less than impressed!

    https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
    Whittingdale hardly has the looks of a Greek Adonis and is single, so if he feels he has to pay to satisfy his energies that is a private matter between him and the lady in question
    I must admit, as a fan of salacious gossip, I'm struggling to give a sh1t about this one.

    The response from Hacked Off is much more amusing. Bunch of w*nkers. (Sorry, glass of wine too many. Hic.).

    EDIT: Snicker. Had to share the first comment on Guido's article on this: "Why the fuss? It's not as if he's been banging Diane Abbott."
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,926
    edited April 2016

    GIN1138 said:

    Bugger, Mike was planning to run my AV thread in the morning.

    excuse my ignorance but what does AV stand for? I have seen if mentioned before but always as an abbreviation.
    Alternative Vote...

    Discussion of it generally sends the PB community into a state of Zzzzzzzzzz.....
    I miss the previous in joke with the link to Sion Simon legendary article :-)
    You mean this one?

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase

    #Enjoy

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