So when I heard Adam and Eve/DDB were handling the REMAIN account it struck me as a fortunate coincidence. Their chief exec James Murphy had written a piece in ‘Campaign’ long before their appointment headlined ‘Adland needs to wake up to the dangers of Brexit.
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IMF backing for Remain.The status quo asserts.
I really don't think I have ever read such puerile rubbish in all my life.
The last line is the most important. Neither "the EU" nor "sovereignty" are things that the public need. So the two sides need to think what the public actually needs.
I agree with TSE on the unacceptability of the first two sentences though. The comparison is clearly too harsh on ad agencies.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ad066f38-008f-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2e62.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/brussels/feed//product#axzz45XI4xnpt
"Although Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, has already expressed her opposition to the UK leaving the EU, the warning is the first time the fund as an institution has expressed a view ratified by all members of its board.
Maurice Obstfeld, IMF chief economist, said, “the planned June referendum on EU membership has already created uncertainty for investors, [and] a ‘Brexit’ could do severe regional and global damage by disrupting established trading relationships”."
"The fund envisages that a vote in June to leave the EU would reduce global growth, which would also hit Britain. Citing Britain’s potential departure from the EU as one of the main global risks, it added that, “materialisation of any of these risks could raise the likelihood of other adverse developments”.
If Britain votes to remain in the EU, the IMF forecasts show the UK again as one of the world’s stronger advanced economies, behind the US and Spain, but ahead of Japan and France. The downgrade to the UK’s 2016 growth rate was larger than other advanced economies...
If the UK sought to leave the EU, it saw no positive consequences."
But apart from that, excellent contribution Roger.
I hope we see more from you.
That's a bit harsh Roger, there;s no need to drag whores into the gutter along with lawyers.
This is all feeling very like Lib Dems Winning Here prior to GE2015 result.
It has been said that the legal profession is the second oldest profession. Having worked for sixteen years in the legal profession, I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.
So far I agree 100% - should I continue reading and spoil it?
Not always your greatest fan but that is a good piece of work.
Anyway - sorry for early derail - curse of new thread
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Danny565 said:
Also, as I said last night, I predict a Baroness Warsi endorsement for Sadiq Khan before May:
I might be wrong but was it Mehdi who got into trouble with some of his comments on religion. Especially regarding the Kafir?
I googled the word Kafir to be sure of spelling - i got the following link
https://islamqa.info/en/59879
Dear god......... no wonder we have problems.
Keep on repeating ad infinitum.
https://twitter.com/AlexVatanka/status/719876821274202112
Regarding the IMF, would this be the same IMF that knew that what they and the EU were doing to Greece wouldn't work, and in fact would be horribly counterproductive, but decided to do it anyway ?
Come May 9th, Remain/Project Fear really gets going,
It's the economy stupid, not immigration.
Why do you think Vote Leave have decided to pretty much ignore immigration as an issue and focus on the economic risk/threat of Remaining?
Do they not care about the possible damage to people?
david_herdson said:
'True. I was more than a bit miffed recently when I was turned down for a job which required A*AA at A level on the grounds that my third A was in General Studies (which wasn't specified in the advert). They kindly let me off the requirement for an A* as they weren't awarded back in the early 1990s, but about as many A*s are given out now as As were then. My two Bs - which would probably be As now - didn't count.
That said, it did seem a bit ridiculous to be haggling over exam grades awarded more than 20 years ago when I do have something of a career record since then! Probably best avoiding that kind of box-ticking mentality.'
You have my sympathies there. What you describe shows incredible ignorance on the part of those responsible for the recruitment process. I have heard of much the same problem confronting people who graduated in the 1970s with a 2.2 when applying for posts today requiring a minimum of a 2.1 - no attempt at all really to allow for grade inflation and changes in assessment systems. Twenty years from now it will not really matter because graduates in the job market will have completed their degrees on the basis of the same criteria being applied, but for the time being these anomalies are very unfair. Perhaps there needs to be some system devised whereby those who graduated pre circa 1988 can apply to have their qualifications regraded on a like for like basis
I always admire OGH's writing- it so simple and effective. Pulpstar and Tissue Price too come to mind for effective prose. JackW, and even SeanT if you can get through his anger issues.
looooool.
They should also take a close look at why the IMF signed up to take part in loan deals for Greece which they knew perfectly well were unworkable and indeed likely to be counterproductive.
The answer is of course, that all rationality had to be subordinated to the political imperative of preventing Greece from exiting the euro. As a number of their former staff members have confirmed.
Any official IMF comments on Brexit should be ignored. They are dancing to the same political tune now.
2. Because (I suspect) they misjudged how likely a Brexit would be.
@montie
The IMF has always backed the failed euro and, led by Christine Lagarde, now backs British membership of the EU. Hardly surprising.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/imf-greece/
It's interesting to see how the betting market is pricing up which one of the three relegation threatened Premier League sides will ultimately survive to collect their £100+ million share of the spoils next season.
Currently the best "Stay-Up" prices are : Newcastle 9/1 from Bet365, Sunderland 7/2 from Paddy Power and Norwich 1/2 from SkyBet.
With only a handful of games still to be played, each and every result could prove crucial. As the odds suggest, Newcastle's chances look pretty desperate, being 6 points behind Norwich, albeit with a game in hand.
There's a tiny 1.1% underround based on these odds, but it's really not worth making the effort for such a modest return.
It's appalling - and the EU effectively overruled their democracy when they voted the wrong way.
There was much outrage here at the time - now all forgotten by some.
When Tsipras and SYRIZA first came to power, the IMF offered their full support to recapitalise the Greek banking sector following an exit. The ECB liked the fact that they would be able to hide losses by accepting repayment in devalued Drachma. It would clearly have been a massive boost to tourism.
But Tsipiras had promised the impossible: massive debt relief, without reform, and inside the Euro. Throughout the whole negotiating process he kept saying that the Germans and the IMF would fold. Instead, even the Germans by the end were proposing Grexit.
He chose to keep Greece in the Euro because he couldn't accept that his forecasts were wrong. It is terrible that so many Greeks are jobless because of his stubbornness.
"Take control", particularly with regard to a threatening 'unknown', is a great message to make central to the Leave campaign. Addressing the emotional needs relating to amorphous risks is far more powerful than appealing to the head.
Just off next week to give a pre-conference course on communication of science and risk to the public. Giving a sense of control over the previously unknown is key to successful messaging.
I'd guess that 90+% of the electorate haven't got the foggiest who they are, and the Project Fear tactic has become a standing joke with a great many people anyway.
when they get home they'll watch about15 minutes of the news. Then Coronoation Street or Property porn,
The bulk of them will think IMF do self assembly furniture.
Received the 'stay in the EU' leaflet.
Twice.
Clearly Dave thinks I really need convincing.
Hardly surprising, indeed. And let's not forget, the interests of Britain or the British public feature nowhere in the IMF's calculations or sentiments, except as they may benefit the IMF.
But no doubt the messenger-shooting will continue up to, and probably beyond, June 24th.
'Good luck with that - best if leavers do not watch the broadcast media for the rest of the day but having said that these warnings will be played over and over again in remain adverts, broadcasts and during the debates right up to the 23rd June'
Interesting how the Chief Economist of the other Bretton Woods institution (which is not controlled by an EU functionary) has a much more relaxed and sensible view ---
'[Kaushik Basu] was more upbeat about Britain's prospects if it left the European Union, suggesting the country could thrive after a Brexit.
...the chief economist indicated that Britain could be better off outside the EU if it forged new trade ties and cemented old ones.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/09/no-end-in-sight-for-global-economic-misery-warns-world-bank/
Then 7 weeks for the referendum campaign, of which just 5 weeks before postal votes go out.
But the results from the local results are likely to dominate the first of the 5 weeks, therefore the window to influence referendum voters is down to a brief 4 weeks.
and the 4 weeks happens with the european football underway....
All of that is likely to result in a low turnout.
Do you think there's 364 of them yet?
Can;t see that worrying the huddled masses personally.