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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,457

    I've got the Metropolitan bit sussed, the next job is to work on the elite bit.

    You are a partner in a London based law firm.

    I think you're pretty well set up there.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
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    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do, or maybe I'm already there.
    You get extra points for being signed up to the 'Dave is great and so is everything about him' club
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    @RichardNabavi - Your membership of the metropolitan elite is confirmed.

    Your membership card is in the post.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321
    edited April 2016
    RoyalBlue said:

    ydoethur said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    ydoethur said:

    Patrick said:

    JackW said:

    Those who are critical of thread leaders always have the option of penning their own disinterested narrative.

    Do pb moderators (all for REMAIN) invite the articles?
    Well that's bollocks.

    1) The Mods don't invite guest threads

    2) One of the mods is a 100% leaver

    But apart from that spot on.
    Which one? You, Meeks and Smithson are all Remainians, are you not?
    You are confusing moderators with thread writers.
    Not exactly the most helpful / informative reply TSE. I'm interested to know who PB's resident non traitorous pigdog ( (c) S.Prasaman )is。
    You misspelt PrasaNNan!!!
    Sunil, from long experience I counsel not getting upset by having your name misspelt. Life is too short.
    Imagine being Welsh and having a name that is pronounced exactly (or almost exactly) the same way as its English counterpart, and spelled totally differently.

    Further imagine that you speak English flawlessly, without accent, and that you live in England.

    I think I got one school report that spelled my name correctly. When I moved to my current school it took a long while and several distinctly unsubtle hints before my colleagues got my name right in emails.
    Siarad Cymraeg?
    Ydw, wrth gwrs.

    (Amusingly autocorrect made 'ydw' into 'yes'!)
    Da iawn!

    I don't know much beyond Mae hen wlad fy in nhadau...
    Ah, ond dyw hi'n annwyl i chi?

    I can understand incidentally why people do not text in Welsh on iPhones. The autocorrect is bloody annoying.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited April 2016
    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
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    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I've forgot number 9

    9) Use the Oxford comma

    I pass on all 9 counts
    I pass 1 and 2, neutral on 3, fail 4 until 24th June, half a point for 5 (en suite bathroom but only 1 basin), fail 6 now (had it in my last job), pass 7 (foreign wife helps), 8 is irrelevant to me but I will if I ever get business going, and pass 9 sometimes (when it's necessary for clarity).
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898
    edited April 2016

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    Seems rough, as some of those are clearly more important, I would argue, to essential metropolitan eliteness than others.

    But I'm safe with only three of them, or possibly two depending on the second point (would the University of Leicester count?)
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited April 2016
    His and hers sinks! Gadzooks - I suspect TSE of buying his own furniture!

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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
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    kle4 said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    Seems rough, as some of those are clearly more important, I would argue, to essential metropolitan eliteness than others.

    But I'm safe with only three of them, or possibly two depending on the second point (would the University of Leicester count?)
    The University of Leicester counts.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do, or maybe I'm already there.
    I have his and hers sinks in all my bathrooms, and I live alone - except for my German Shepherd Heidi of course, and she's not fussy
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898

    kle4 said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    Seems rough, as some of those are clearly more important, I would argue, to essential metropolitan eliteness than others.

    But I'm safe with only three of them, or possibly two depending on the second point (would the University of Leicester count?)
    The University of Leicester counts.
    I'm only two away then. Too late to go to a private school, so I had best work on sinks in the en suite. First step, get an en suite.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,457
    Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being metropolitan, and living in a city. I am a country chap: the closer I am to the natural world, and a traditional English village, the happier I am. I would probably be categorised as a Shire Tory rather than metropolitan.

    I would probably be considered a member of the elite globally, and perhaps even domestically, even though I am a humble programme management consultant.

    "Metropolitan Elite", as a phrase, captures someone who is well-off, does well from the status-quo, is pro-internationalist, pro-migration, pro-globalisation and mixes socially with others of a similar ilk. They either have no strong affinity to nation states, having travelled, worked and lived all over the world (often moving around from birth) or are ethnically/culturally from multiple national backgrounds. They have a disdain for those less sophisticated and successful than themselves, as they associate more with each other than their fellow nationals, and perceive non-U views as a threat from people that they wished knew better.

    Incidentally, Metropolitan Elite can cover a spectrum of political views (from full-on Guardianista to Blairite to Cameroon) right up to the point where they perceive a threat to their own economic circumstances.

    The newspaper that most encapsulates them is probably The Economist.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,056
    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
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    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    At most I only meet 3 if TSE's criteria.
    But it is a useful list for 'come the revolution' types.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820

    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)

    Certainly the wife's insurance counts, and surely you get triple points for attending the university without getting a degree?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    That sounds even more elitist - you were able to drop out due to independent wealth and metropolitan connections, no doubt.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,534
    edited April 2016

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    At most I only meet 3 if TSE's criteria.
    But it is a useful list for 'come the revolution' types.
    Apparently being able to afford the most god awful in taste but expensive clothing and footwear is another criteria.

    But I suspect that only applies to me.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820

    Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being metropolitan, and living in a city. I am a country chap: the closer I am to the natural world, and a traditional English village, the happier I am. I would probably be categorised as a Shire Tory rather than metropolitan.

    I would probably be considered a member of the elite globally, and perhaps even domestically, even though I am a humble programme management consultant.

    "Metropolitan Elite", as a phrase, captures someone who is well-off, does well from the status-quo, is pro-internationalist, pro-migration, pro-globalisation and mixes socially with others of a similar ilk. They either have no strong affinity to nation states, having travelled, worked and lived all over the world (often moving around from birth) or are ethnically/culturally from multiple national backgrounds. They have a disdain for those less sophisticated and successful than themselves, as they associate more with each other than their fellow nationals, and perceive non-U views as a threat from people that they wished knew better.

    Incidentally, Metropolitan Elite can cover a spectrum of political views (from full-on Guardianista to Blairite to Cameroon) right up to the point where they perceive a threat to their own economic circumstances.

    The newspaper that most encapsulates them is probably The Economist.

    Oh dear, I think my application has just been rejected.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    It counts all right. After all, it's probably due to the evils of a rigged system that you lost out, because obviously the system is played by those horrible rich people to ensure that really brilliant people don't show up their worthless darlings...

    How's that tone of arrogant condescension coming across? I can't be jealous on this issue, I took a First.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Tomorrow's special Panorama on this huge tax dodging leak, that they have been working on for over a year....is getting 30 mins programme. I don't understand the logic. How in 30 mins can you really explain any of this. When they do the 1hr shows they are so much better.
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited April 2016
    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being metropolitan, and living in a city. I am a country chap: the closer I am to the natural world, and a traditional English village, the happier I am. I would probably be categorised as a Shire Tory rather than metropolitan.

    I would probably be considered a member of the elite globally, and perhaps even domestically, even though I am a humble programme management consultant.

    "Metropolitan Elite", as a phrase, captures someone who is well-off, does well from the status-quo, is pro-internationalist, pro-migration, pro-globalisation and mixes socially with others of a similar ilk. They either have no strong affinity to nation states, having travelled, worked and lived all over the world (often moving around from birth) or are ethnically/culturally from multiple national backgrounds. They have a disdain for those less sophisticated and successful than themselves, as they associate more with each other than their fellow nationals, and perceive non-U views as a threat from people that they wished knew better.

    Incidentally, Metropolitan Elite can cover a spectrum of political views (from full-on Guardianista to Blairite to Cameroon) right up to the point where they perceive a threat to their own economic circumstances.

    The newspaper that most encapsulates them is probably The Economist.

    That is quite wrong.

    "Metropolitan Elite" means someone who has influence, or at least presence, at the fashionable tables of the Westminster parties, or in the financial or ideological organisations that support them.

    It has very little to do with whether one supports a particular political philosophy or not, including nationalism.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being metropolitan, and living in a city. I am a country chap: the closer I am to the natural world, and a traditional English village, the happier I am. I would probably be categorised as a Shire Tory rather than metropolitan.

    I would probably be considered a member of the elite globally, and perhaps even domestically, even though I am a humble programme management consultant.

    "Metropolitan Elite", as a phrase, captures someone who is well-off, does well from the status-quo, is pro-internationalist, pro-migration, pro-globalisation and mixes socially with others of a similar ilk. They either have no strong affinity to nation states, having travelled, worked and lived all over the world (often moving around from birth) or are ethnically/culturally from multiple national backgrounds. They have a disdain for those less sophisticated and successful than themselves, as they associate more with each other than their fellow nationals, and perceive non-U views as a threat from people that they wished knew better.

    Incidentally, Metropolitan Elite can cover a spectrum of political views (from full-on Guardianista to Blairite to Cameroon) right up to the point where they perceive a threat to their own economic circumstances.

    The newspaper that most encapsulates them is probably The Economist.

    That is quite wrong.

    "Metropolitan Elite" means someone who has influence, or at least presence, at the fashionable tables of the Westminster parties, or in the financial or ideological organisations that support them.

    It has very little to do with whether one supports a particular political philosophy or not, including nationalism.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    I have an alternative definition. Your membership depends on which side you take in this huge controversy:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35954439
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    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    My largest TV is 55inches and I have the full Sky package.

    In a Venn Diagram of the Metropolitan Elite and Working Class I'm going to be a very small segment in that that Venn Diagram
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,290
    "According to The Guardian, one of the media organisations receiving the leaked documents - the so-called 'Panama Papers' - reveal:

    :: Six members of the House of Lords, three former Conservative MPs and dozens of donors to UK political parties have had offshore assets."

    So not even any current MPs, let alone anyone more important? Well I'm sure that'll be a huge disappointment to some people.

    I guess everyone will just have to settle for having a laugh at a few Peers.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1672075/offshore-accounts-of-world-leaders-revealed
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    ydoethur said:

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    It counts all right. After all, it's probably due to the evils of a rigged system that you lost out, because obviously the system is played by those horrible rich people to ensure that really brilliant people don't show up their worthless darlings...

    How's that tone of arrogant condescension coming across? I can't be jealous on this issue, I took a First.
    Are you a North Walian? I don't speak the language, but I have some cantankerous relatives who say it's better to speak the language of the Saxons than Welsh with a Cardiganshire accent...
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    I meet five out of TSE's 8 Metropolitan tests it seems. Though I wouldn't count myself as shire anyway, I find the countryside interminably dull and boring so if any Tory is either Metropolitan Elite or Shire Tory then I suppose that was inevitable.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    My largest TV is 55inches and I have the full Sky package.

    In a Venn Diagram of the Metropolitan Elite and Working Class I'm going to be a very small segment in that that Venn Diagram
    I wonder how big TheDonald's largest tv is ;-)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited April 2016
    MikeL said:

    "According to The Guardian, one of the media organisations receiving the leaked documents - the so-called 'Panama Papers' - reveal:

    :: Six members of the House of Lords, three former Conservative MPs and dozens of donors to UK political parties have had offshore assets."

    So not even any current MPs, let alone anyone more important? Well I'm sure that'll be a huge disappointment to some people.

    I guess everyone will just have to settle for having a laugh at a few Peers.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1672075/offshore-accounts-of-world-leaders-revealed

    Unless they are holding some stuff back? It would be pleasantly shocking to me if that was the full extent of political elite taking advantage.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,056
    kle4 said:

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    That sounds even more elitist - you were able to drop out due to independent wealth and metropolitan connections, no doubt.
    I wish! I dropped out for two reasons:

    *) health reasons meant I couldn't have done the job (tunnelling) I wanted.
    *) I started earning a lot of money programming.

    I remember dreading having to tell my parents. I went home, sat down with them over a pot of tea and told them I was leaving. They were not wholly surprised, but upset. I then told them how much I was earning and their worries partially dissipated.

    Any metropolitan connections I have had have been formed through random and fortunate coincidence. For instance I got perhaps the best neurosurgeon in the world to fix me up by pure fluke. And he was remarkably cheap ...

    Most metropolitan types would see me and run screaming. Perhaps we'll be able to use that test on Friday if I make it. :)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Number of EU migrants working in UK to be revealed weeks before referendum

    HMRC will provide national insurance figures, which could prove immigration has been seriously underestimated

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/03/number-migrants-revealed-eu-referendum-hmrc-national-insurance
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321
    RoyalBlue said:

    ydoethur said:

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    It counts all right. After all, it's probably due to the evils of a rigged system that you lost out, because obviously the system is played by those horrible rich people to ensure that really brilliant people don't show up their worthless darlings...

    How's that tone of arrogant condescension coming across? I can't be jealous on this issue, I took a First.
    Are you a North Walian? I don't speak the language, but I have some cantankerous relatives who say it's better to speak the language of the Saxons than Welsh with a Cardiganshire accent...
    Valleys, although I was actually born in Gloucester.

    I lived in Aberystwyth for many years though, so I could be mistaken for a Cardi when .speaking in Welsh.

    Incidentally they feel exactly the same way about the Gogs!
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    My largest TV is 55inches and I have the full Sky package.

    In a Venn Diagram of the Metropolitan Elite and Working Class I'm going to be a very small segment in that that Venn Diagram
    I wonder how big TheDonald's largest tv is ;-)
    between 6 and 7 inches fully erected?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    My largest TV is 55inches and I have the full Sky package.

    In a Venn Diagram of the Metropolitan Elite and Working Class I'm going to be a very small segment in that that Venn Diagram
    I wonder how big TheDonald's largest tv is ;-)
    between 6 and 7 inches fully erected?
    A flatscreen?
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    Yep
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    ydoethur said:

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package



    I presume the bigger tv and more extensive the package the more working class?
    My largest TV is 55inches and I have the full Sky package.

    In a Venn Diagram of the Metropolitan Elite and Working Class I'm going to be a very small segment in that that Venn Diagram
    I wonder how big TheDonald's largest tv is ;-)
    between 6 and 7 inches fully erected?
    A flatscreen?
    Curved!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2016
    "Offshore Accounts Of World Leaders Revealed

    The biggest leak of financial information in history alleges 12 world leaders are hiding wealth in secret, offshore accounts."


    http://news.sky.com/story/1672075/offshore-accounts-of-world-leaders-revealed

    https://twitter.com/emilybell/status/716733223074709504
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Wonder how big DT's Sky Package is.

    Mine is quite small but at least I have had it at half price for 36 months
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    runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536

    Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being metropolitan, and living in a city. I am a country chap: the closer I am to the natural world, and a traditional English village, the happier I am. I would probably be categorised as a Shire Tory rather than metropolitan.

    I would probably be considered a member of the elite globally, and perhaps even domestically, even though I am a humble programme management consultant.

    "Metropolitan Elite", as a phrase, captures someone who is well-off, does well from the status-quo, is pro-internationalist, pro-migration, pro-globalisation and mixes socially with others of a similar ilk. They either have no strong affinity to nation states, having travelled, worked and lived all over the world (often moving around from birth) or are ethnically/culturally from multiple national backgrounds. They have a disdain for those less sophisticated and successful than themselves, as they associate more with each other than their fellow nationals, and perceive non-U views as a threat from people that they wished knew better.

    Incidentally, Metropolitan Elite can cover a spectrum of political views (from full-on Guardianista to Blairite to Cameroon) right up to the point where they perceive a threat to their own economic circumstances.

    The newspaper that most encapsulates them is probably The Economist.

    Correction - 'They have a disdain for those they consider less sophisticated and successful than themselves'
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,290
    edited April 2016
    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package

    It's funny isn't it - in fact Sky customers skew significantly ABC1 compared to the population as a whole.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    MikeL said:

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package

    It's funny isn't it - in fact Sky customers skew very heavily ABC1 compared to the population as a whole.
    These days you can watch individual Sky Sports events using their online service. No need for a dish or an extensive package provided you have a decent broadband connection.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Iceland’s prime minister walks out of interview over tax haven question"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlq_zrfWDc
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    MikeL said:

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package

    It's funny isn't it - in fact Sky customers skew very heavily ABC1 compared to the population as a whole.
    At least in my part of the World, it all stems from a joke that used to do the rounds about how many people in Belfast housing estates had massive flat screens , seemed to buy new one with great frequency (Christmas, birthdays..) and had the top end packages from Virgin Media or Sky. You wanna buy a toddler a gift in Belfast...Fisher Price, My First HD Flat Screen..and so on.

    I suspect certain cities elsewhere in the UK would have their own colloquial definitions.

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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,321

    Wonder how big DT's Sky Package is.

    Mine is quite small but at least I have had it at half price for 36 months

    Please tell me that wasn't meant to have a double meaning! :hushed:
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    ydoethur said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    ydoethur said:

    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I meet three.

    It would be four if the private medical insurance counts through the wife's company's insurance, and five if 'attended' the university counts even if you didn't get a degree, ;)
    It counts all right. After all, it's probably due to the evils of a rigged system that you lost out, because obviously the system is played by those horrible rich people to ensure that really brilliant people don't show up their worthless darlings...

    How's that tone of arrogant condescension coming across? I can't be jealous on this issue, I took a First.
    Are you a North Walian? I don't speak the language, but I have some cantankerous relatives who say it's better to speak the language of the Saxons than Welsh with a Cardiganshire accent...
    Valleys, although I was actually born in Gloucester.

    I lived in Aberystwyth for many years though, so I could be mistaken for a Cardi when .speaking in Welsh.

    Incidentally they feel exactly the same way about the Gogs!
    I wish I'd learnt Welsh growing up. Learning from ess pedwar ec is hard!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Britain's exit from the European Union would lead to the “implosion” of the continental bloc and force the United States to intervene to put “Humpty Dumpty back together again”, the boss of the London Stock Exchange has claimed.

    Xavier Rolet added that the “UK leaving the European Union is the end of the European Union”. In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Mr Rolet, one of 200 business leaders to sign a high-profile letter in February supporting the campaign for the UK to remain in Europe, said such a prospect would be “devastating.”


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/03/vote-for-brexit-would-lead-to-implosion-of-the-continental-bloc/
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898
    Y0kel said:

    MikeL said:

    Y0kel said:

    All this reminds me of definitions the working class, two of the key assessment criteria being:

    -Size and numbers of large flat screen TVs in the household.
    -Extensiveness of their Sky package

    It's funny isn't it - in fact Sky customers skew very heavily ABC1 compared to the population as a whole.
    At least in my part of the World, it all stems from a joke that used to do the rounds about how many people in Belfast housing estates had massive flat screens
    You can rent out TVs, that's what a lot of people I know have done/used to do
    AndyJS said:

    "Iceland’s prime minister walks out of interview over tax haven question"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlq_zrfWDc

    'I don't know how these things work', stuttering denial of any impropriety moments after claiming he was being asked about things he hadn't acquainted himself on and then walking out.

    I take it he truly never expected the issue, innocent or not, to come up, or else he'd have been far better prepared for the possibility than that performance would indicate!
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,221
    ydoethur said:

    Patrick said:

    JackW said:

    Those who are critical of thread leaders always have the option of penning their own disinterested narrative.

    Do pb moderators (all for REMAIN) invite the articles?
    Well that's bollocks.

    1) The Mods don't invite guest threads

    2) One of the mods is a 100% leaver

    But apart from that spot on.
    Which one? You, Meeks and Smithson are all Remainians, are you not?
    You are confusing moderators with thread writers.
    Not exactly the most helpful / informative reply TSE. I'm interested to know who PB's resident non traitorous pigdog ( (c) S.Prasaman )is。
    You misspelt PrasaNNan!!!
    Sunil, from long experience I counsel not getting upset by having your name misspelt. Life is too short.
    Imagine being Welsh and having a name that is pronounced exactly (or almost exactly) the same way as its English counterpart, and spelled totally differently.

    Further imagine that you speak English flawlessly, without accent, and that you live in England.

    I think I got one school report that spelled my name correctly. When I moved to my current school it took a long while and several distinctly unsubtle hints before my colleagues got my name right in emails.
    I have had my name misspelt all my life. Even worse, people - when they are told it - assume I am a man. And, on occasion, when people have met me they have assumed I was my male alter ego's secretary. Oh dear!
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Patrick said:

    JackW said:

    Those who are critical of thread leaders always have the option of penning their own disinterested narrative.

    Do pb moderators (all for REMAIN) invite the articles?
    Well that's bollocks.

    1) The Mods don't invite guest threads

    2) One of the mods is a 100% leaver

    But apart from that spot on.
    Which one? You, Meeks and Smithson are all Remainians, are you not?
    You are confusing moderators with thread writers.
    Not exactly the most helpful / informative reply TSE. I'm interested to know who PB's resident non traitorous pigdog ( (c) S.Prasaman )is。
    You misspelt PrasaNNan!!!
    Sunil, from long experience I counsel not getting upset by having your name misspelt. Life is too short.
    Imagine being Welsh and having a name that is pronounced exactly (or almost exactly) the same way as its English counterpart, and spelled totally differently.

    Further imagine that you speak English flawlessly, without accent, and that you live in England.

    I think I got one school report that spelled my name correctly. When I moved to my current school it took a long while and several distinctly unsubtle hints before my colleagues got my name right in emails.
    I have had my name misspelt all my life. Even worse, people - when they are told it - assume I am a man. And, on occasion, when people have met me they have assumed I was my male alter ego's secretary. Oh dear!
    As you know, my Cornish surname is only 6 letters long, but I have had it spelt at least 40 different ways over the years ...
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,221

    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
    Dear me, I hate to break it to you but en suite bathrooms are frightfully vulgar.

    A bedroom is a place for passion and rest.

    What one does in a bathroom should be kept well away from there.
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    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
    Dear me, I hate to break it to you but en suite bathrooms are frightfully vulgar.

    A bedroom is a place for passion and rest.

    What one does in a bathroom should be kept well away from there.
    Yeah but passion can get messy and you need somewhere nearby so the couple can clean themselves up PDQ and start all over again.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898
    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Patrick said:

    JackW said:

    Those who are critical of thread leaders always have the option of penning their own disinterested narrative.

    Do pb moderators (all for REMAIN) invite the articles?
    Well that's bollocks.

    1) The Mods don't invite guest threads

    2) One of the mods is a 100% leaver

    But apart from that spot on.
    Which one? You, Meeks and Smithson are all Remainians, are you not?
    You are confusing moderators with thread writers.
    Not exactly the most helpful / informative reply TSE. I'm interested to know who PB's resident non traitorous pigdog ( (c) S.Prasaman )is。
    You misspelt PrasaNNan!!!
    Sunil, from long experience I counsel not getting upset by having your name misspelt. Life is too short.
    Imagine being Welsh and having a name that is pronounced exactly (or almost exactly) the same way as its English counterpart, and spelled totally differently.

    Further imagine that you speak English flawlessly, without accent, and that you live in England.

    I think I got one school report that spelled my name correctly. When I moved to my current school it took a long while and several distinctly unsubtle hints before my colleagues got my name right in emails.
    on occasion, when people have met me they have assumed I was my male alter ego's secretary.
    Oh to be a fly on the wall for those encounters - I assume hilarity ensued, for one of you at least.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,221

    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
    Dear me, I hate to break it to you but en suite bathrooms are frightfully vulgar.

    A bedroom is a place for passion and rest.

    What one does in a bathroom should be kept well away from there.
    Yeah but passion can get messy and you need somewhere nearby so the couple can clean themselves up PDQ and start all over again.

    The key word there being "nearby". Not in the corner or behind a flimsy door.

    I am tempted to suggest to such a couple that they have sex in the bath......
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223

    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
    Dear me, I hate to break it to you but en suite bathrooms are frightfully vulgar.

    A bedroom is a place for passion and rest.

    What one does in a bathroom should be kept well away from there.
    Yeah but passion can get messy and you need somewhere nearby so the couple can clean themselves up PDQ and start all over again.
    Eww! Some things are better left unsaid.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,221
    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Patrick said:

    JackW said:

    Those who are critical of thread leaders always have the option of penning their own disinterested narrative.

    Do pb moderators (all for REMAIN) invite the articles?
    Well that's bollocks.

    1) The Mods don't invite guest threads

    2) One of the mods is a 100% leaver

    But apart from that spot on.
    Which one? You, Meeks and Smithson are all Remainians, are you not?
    You are confusing moderators with thread writers.
    Not exactly the most helpful / informative reply TSE. I'm interested to know who PB's resident non traitorous pigdog ( (c) S.Prasaman )is。
    You misspelt PrasaNNan!!!
    Sunil, from long experience I counsel not getting upset by having your name misspelt. Life is too short.
    Imagine being Welsh and having a name that is pronounced exactly (or almost exactly) the same way as its English counterpart, and spelled totally differently.

    Further imagine that you speak English flawlessly, without accent, and that you live in England.

    I think I got one school report that spelled my name correctly. When I moved to my current school it took a long while and several distinctly unsubtle hints before my colleagues got my name right in emails.
    on occasion, when people have met me they have assumed I was my male alter ego's secretary.
    Oh to be a fly on the wall for those encounters - I assume hilarity ensued, for one of you at least.
    :)
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,898
    edited April 2016
    Least newsworthy 'news' story 2016 contender?

    Fifa ethics lawyer Juan Pedro Damiani under internal investigation:

    A key member of its ethics committee, Uruguayan lawyer Juan Pedro Damiani, is being internally investigated for links with Eugenio Figueredo - an allegedly corrupt football official


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35954640

    A good night to all.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,221
    Incidentally, there was a very good documentary by Bob Geldof on WB Yeats this evening on BBC 4. Well worth catching on iPlayer.
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    runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    AndyJS said:

    "Britain's exit from the European Union would lead to the “implosion” of the continental bloc and force the United States to intervene to put “Humpty Dumpty back together again”, the boss of the London Stock Exchange has claimed.

    Xavier Rolet added that the “UK leaving the European Union is the end of the European Union”. In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Mr Rolet, one of 200 business leaders to sign a high-profile letter in February supporting the campaign for the UK to remain in Europe, said such a prospect would be “devastating.”


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/03/vote-for-brexit-would-lead-to-implosion-of-the-continental-bloc/

    clownish stuff
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    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure your the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan eleite
    6 out of 8, so I guess I've got further work to do.
    I meet 2 and 4. I don't care about 3. Clearly I will never qualify since I meet at best 3 out of 8.

    I will just have to settle for a tone of arrogant condescension implicit of jealousy when I speak of them then.
    Don't worry, the real elite think it's outrageously vulgar to have 'his and her sinks*' (or even his and his sinks) in any of one's bathrooms.

    * I think TSE means 'basins'
    I'm from Yorkshire, they are sinks.
    Dear me, I hate to break it to you but en suite bathrooms are frightfully vulgar.

    A bedroom is a place for passion and rest.

    What one does in a bathroom should be kept well away from there.
    Yeah but passion can get messy and you need somewhere nearby so the couple can clean themselves up PDQ and start all over again.

    The key word there being "nearby". Not in the corner or behind a flimsy door.

    I am tempted to suggest to such a couple that they have sex in the bath......
    The thing is an en suite bathroom avoids walking past the kids bedrooms and waking them up. So my friends tell me.

    And on that note, goodnight
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    runnymede said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Britain's exit from the European Union would lead to the “implosion” of the continental bloc and force the United States to intervene to put “Humpty Dumpty back together again”, the boss of the London Stock Exchange has claimed.

    Xavier Rolet added that the “UK leaving the European Union is the end of the European Union”. In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Mr Rolet, one of 200 business leaders to sign a high-profile letter in February supporting the campaign for the UK to remain in Europe, said such a prospect would be “devastating.”


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/03/vote-for-brexit-would-lead-to-implosion-of-the-continental-bloc/

    clownish stuff
    'They have a disdain for those they consider less sophisticated and successful than themselves'
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,352
    Cyclefree said:

    Incidentally, there was a very good documentary by Bob Geldof on WB Yeats this evening on BBC 4. Well worth catching on iPlayer.

    Moving the discussion a bit downmarket, there is a pub in Finsbury Park (20 Fonthill Rd) where I've played poker called the WB Yeats, with what appears to be an original manuscript poem in his writing on the wall (presumably a copy), plus a bunch of other poems (not all by him) that are clearly just typed up. The pub is nothing special otherwise but it is worth wandering round peering at the exhibits.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,052
    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    MEANWHILE - serious evidence that ISIS are now on the run.

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/key-isis-bastion-in-central-syria-taken-20160403


    But, a cornered rat, and all that.

    There is an article by Lyndsay Hilsum in today's Sunday Times from Palmyra (what a brave journalist she is) about the state of the place: not just destruction of ancient ruins but mass graves and the rest.

    I expect that when Raqqa and Mosul get liberated that we will see some real horrors.

    Will it make young Islamists think again? I hope so, but fear not.

    A good day for Leicester ( I did tip another 1 nil this morning!) and the West Indies. I hope that the T20 cup and the IPL inspire a revival of cricket there. It would be good for the sport.
    The end of ISIS won't mean the end of Islamist terror, but if and when ISIS are extinguished in the Mid East, it will deprive jihadists of much inspiration, leadership - and military training and materiel. It will also make violent Islamism look like a game for losers.

    Much of the Caliphate's appeal to teenager nutters in the West was the way it could present itself on social media as a mighty and unstoppable force, rapidly taking over Arabia. The newer image of ISIS soldiers in defeat, running away, trapped in foxholes, and being turned into so much dust, is bad for the branding of jihad as a whole.

    Bit like Nazism in a way. Fanatical support but based largely on the idea of strength. Once you're defeated the whole thing loses all meaning. Not true of wider Islamism though, many of whose adherents seem to regard themselves as losers who want to poke the west in the eye.
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    Freggles said:

    I'm keen to become one of the metropolitan elite.

    Where do I apply?

    I keep on getting told I'm a member of the liberal metropolitan elite, my membership is because

    1) I attended a private school
    2) Attended a top top university (but any decent Redbrick Uni counts)
    3) Pro same sex marriage
    4) Don't consider immigration nor the EU to be a top issue for the country
    5) Have his and her sinks in your en suite bath room
    6) Have private medical insurance cover
    7) You have a second property/travel regularly abroad for holidays
    8) Afford someone who makes sure you pay the least amount of tax possible

    You only have to meet a majority of the above criteria and you get membership of the metropolitan elite
    I meet two of those
    I beat you, I got one.
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    blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    The metropolitan elite doesn't exist yet this site is full of people who yearn to be part of it.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    The metropolitan elite doesn't exist yet this site is full of people who yearn to be part of it.

    Yes. Metropolitan elite, an oxymoron if there ever were one.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,052
    MTimT said:

    The metropolitan elite doesn't exist yet this site is full of people who yearn to be part of it.

    Yes. Metropolitan elite, an oxymoron if there ever were one.
    Really?

    I think they exist all right but I don't believe they're all stereotypical in their politics.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,916
    edited April 2016

    Ah my favourite poet.

    Nixon: Do ever think of death, Dick?
    Helms: Flowers are a continual reminder of our mortality. Do you appreciate flowers?
    Nixon: No, no they make me sick, and they smell like death. I had two brothers die young... Well let me tell you. There are worse things than death...There's such a thing as evil.
    Helms: You must be familiar with my favorite poem, by Yeats, the Second Coming...Black Irish...Very moving

    "Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,..
    ...everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity...
    ...And what rough beast, its hour come 'round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"


    "Nixon", dir. Oliver Stone, 1995
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    The metropolitan elite doesn't exist yet this site is full of people who yearn to be part of it.

    Why do you say they don't exist?
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Der Trump in West Allis, WI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzQca0I10c
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