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  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    rcs1000 said:

    Things I've learned today: the American Known Nothing movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

    Well worth a read.

    Yes, there are some echoes there.
  • LennonLennon Posts: 1,784

    Can we recall Jade Dernbach?

    Applause...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Lennon said:

    Can we recall Jade Dernbach?

    Applause...
    I am sure we can chase down 200+ in 20 overs....no laughing at the back...
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    dr_spyn said:

    Thank goodness that Farage or Merkel hadn't said that.

    Farage would have been hung drawn and Quartered - Merkel would have just told her lap-dog press to delete the recording and threaten anyone that published it.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    What a nitwit. The media kept him on life support

    The Hill
    Rubio blames media for killing his campaign: https://t.co/XxVF4Ijl3p https://t.co/74TIfkNlDo
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    England out of the world cup after one game and 5 overs.

    What the hell have we learnt from the Aussie coach,how not to bowl in limited overs ;-)
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    John Rentoul
    Lovely cartoon, found in my attic, by the great John Minnion, for New Statesman just after 1983 election I think https://t.co/PsJXWNvYKX
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    rcs1000 said:

    Things I've learned today: the American Known Nothing movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

    Well worth a read.

    Interesting
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,797
    Speedy said:

    Alistair said:

    Barnesian said:

    The Stephen Fisher analysis is intertesting. He has REMAIN on 58% after applying a +4.4% adjustment (half the average difference between online and phone polls).

    However if you disregard the +4.4% adjustment for the difference between polling methodologies, then REMAIN is on 53.6% (half a σ away from 50%), implying that the chance of REMAIN getting more than 50% is only 69%.

    This is exactly the same as the chance implied by the betting on Betfair. See above.

    In other words, the betting is ignoring the telephone polling and relying only on the online polls.
    Psychologically, I find I'm doing the same thing and concentrating only on the online polls.

    From a betting perspective, it is really important to understand the cause of the difference between the two polling methodologies (Fisher doesn't know so he goes half way).

    In the meantime, in the absence of that understanding and a crystal ball, REMAIN at a 69% chance must be a value bet.

    I agree that as things stand Remain is a value bet. The only thing stopping me piling on Remain is that I cannot produce a suitable forecast "Events" that I am happy with. I have not idea what chance any Event has of happening and I have no clue how soft the Remain vote is to Events.

    Without being able to price in Events I am staying away.
    Well the bad public reaction of the budget was an event.
    It doesn't seem to have affected the betting. We'll soon see whether it has affected the polls.

    Mishandling the Turkey issue could be a serious event.
  • I take full responsibility for England in this World t20.

    I tipped and backed them to win.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Barnesian said:

    Speedy said:

    Alistair said:

    Barnesian said:

    The Stephen Fisher analysis is intertesting. He has REMAIN on 58% after applying a +4.4% adjustment (half the average difference between online and phone polls).

    However if you disregard the +4.4% adjustment for the difference between polling methodologies, then REMAIN is on 53.6% (half a σ away from 50%), implying that the chance of REMAIN getting more than 50% is only 69%.

    This is exactly the same as the chance implied by the betting on Betfair. See above.

    In other words, the betting is ignoring the telephone polling and relying only on the online polls.
    Psychologically, I find I'm doing the same thing and concentrating only on the online polls.

    From a betting perspective, it is really important to understand the cause of the difference between the two polling methodologies (Fisher doesn't know so he goes half way).

    In the meantime, in the absence of that understanding and a crystal ball, REMAIN at a 69% chance must be a value bet.

    I agree that as things stand Remain is a value bet. The only thing stopping me piling on Remain is that I cannot produce a suitable forecast "Events" that I am happy with. I have not idea what chance any Event has of happening and I have no clue how soft the Remain vote is to Events.

    Without being able to price in Events I am staying away.
    Well the bad public reaction of the budget was an event.
    It doesn't seem to have affected the betting. We'll soon see whether it has affected the polls.

    Mishandling the Turkey issue could be a serious event.
    It's a seriously dull betting event. Though the US Democrat race has now become a bigger cert for the favourite than this one.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Sky score predictor...229....easy peasy....LOL...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    http://order-order.com/2016/03/18/read-labour-mps-email-chain-mocking-corbyn/

    Clive "BBC IS RACIST" Lewis is a moron....studied economics at the University of Bradford...need we say more?
  • NorfolkTilIDieNorfolkTilIDie Posts: 1,268
    LondonBob said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    My analysis of the results is leading me to the conclusion that alot of Democrats came out for Kasich in Ohio.

    Also Illinois will stay very safely Democrat at the General :)

    Indeed, I think around half a million, most of them Sanders voters.

    Sanders, by making the defeat of Trump the priority of his supporters, cost him victory in Illinois, Ohio and Missouri.
    The University of Missouri results are an example.
    North Carolina around Raleigh looked odd to me, even odder that they would vote Cruz as an anti Trump vote, I would have expected Rubio or Kasich to do better there but not Cruz. Something to take into account with Wisconsin being an open primary, although I expect Reagan Democrats will outnumber them. A Trump caucus goer said in Minnesota a bunch of college kids showed up and were noisily anti Trump who then voted for Rubio, he said normally it is just old folks like him going to these caucuses.

    People have to remember for next Tuesday Arizona is SW, unlike the Plains and Mountain West they aren't so offended by Trump's bombast and are a lot more tribal, settled by folks coming west from the Deep South and Appalachia. California and Arizona will be more like Nevada, Texas was just an anomaly as it was Cruz's home state.

    Kasich has no hope in PA, he barely won his own state. PA is Appalachia in the west and strongly influence by NY in the east, very strong state for Trump which will be relevant for the general.

    Utah only matters in the sense it is better to put it to bed sooner rather than later. Get your opponents to accept the inevitable etc.
    Arizona is substantially made up of Midwestern retirees. Pennsylvania is Appalachia in the middle. Pittsburg is in the West and similar to rustbelt.

    Wasn't Kasich kicked off the ballot in Penn?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Stokes to Duminy, FOUR, full toss on the legs

    England going about as well as your nags, TSE
  • NorfolkTilIDieNorfolkTilIDie Posts: 1,268
    Barnesian said:

    The Stephen Fisher analysis is intertesting. He has REMAIN on 58% after applying a +4.4% adjustment (half the average difference between online and phone polls).

    He believes that the polling error is very large and estimates that the standard deviation is 7%. If you look up a normal distribution table, you will find that this implies that REMAIN has an 87% chance of getting more than 50%, as he says.

    However if you disregard the +4.4% adjustment for the difference between polling methodologies, then REMAIN is on 53.6% (half a σ away from 50%), implying that the chance of REMAIN getting more than 50% is only 69%.

    This is exactly the same as the chance implied by the betting on Betfair. See above.

    In other words, the betting is ignoring the telephone polling and relying only on the online polls.
    Psychologically, I find I'm doing the same thing and concentrating only on the online polls.

    From a betting perspective, it is really important to understand the cause of the difference between the two polling methodologies (Fisher doesn't know so he goes half way).

    In the meantime, in the absence of that understanding and a crystal ball, REMAIN at a 69% chance must be a value bet.

    This is great analysis and what I come to PB for. Thanks.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/18/read-labour-mps-email-chain-mocking-corbyn/

    Clive "BBC IS RACIST" Lewis is a moron....studied economics at the University of Bradford...need we say more?

    What - and where - did you study?
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    Barnesian said:

    The Stephen Fisher analysis is intertesting. He has REMAIN on 58% after applying a +4.4% adjustment (half the average difference between online and phone polls).

    He believes that the polling error is very large and estimates that the standard deviation is 7%. If you look up a normal distribution table, you will find that this implies that REMAIN has an 87% chance of getting more than 50%, as he says.

    However if you disregard the +4.4% adjustment for the difference between polling methodologies, then REMAIN is on 53.6% (half a σ away from 50%), implying that the chance of REMAIN getting more than 50% is only 69%.

    This is exactly the same as the chance implied by the betting on Betfair. See above.

    In other words, the betting is ignoring the telephone polling and relying only on the online polls.
    Psychologically, I find I'm doing the same thing and concentrating only on the online polls.

    From a betting perspective, it is really important to understand the cause of the difference between the two polling methodologies (Fisher doesn't know so he goes half way).

    In the meantime, in the absence of that understanding and a crystal ball, REMAIN at a 69% chance must be a value bet.

    This is great analysis and what I come to PB for. Thanks.
    Yes it is very interesting, however "value" in betting is a very overused and misunderstood word. With an event such as the EU referendum, where so many factors must be taken into account, any "value" is pure guesswork at this stage. Besides, since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
  • NorfolkTilIDieNorfolkTilIDie Posts: 1,268
    I see European Commission has been leaking insider emissions testing information to the big car companies:

    http://corporateeurope.org/power-lobbies/2016/03/leak-shows-commission-giving-inside-information-car-lobby-new-emissions-tests
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417
    Pong said:

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/18/read-labour-mps-email-chain-mocking-corbyn/

    Clive "BBC IS RACIST" Lewis is a moron....studied economics at the University of Bradford...need we say more?

    What - and where - did you study?
    PB Studies at the University of First!-ville.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,797
    Pulpstar said:

    Barnesian said:

    Speedy said:

    Alistair said:

    Barnesian said:

    The Stephen Fisher analysis is intertesting. He has REMAIN on 58% after applying a +4.4% adjustment (half the average difference between online and phone polls).

    However if you disregard the +4.4% adjustment for the difference between polling methodologies, then REMAIN is on 53.6% (half a σ away from 50%), implying that the chance of REMAIN getting more than 50% is only 69%.

    This is exactly the same as the chance implied by the betting on Betfair. See above.

    In other words, the betting is ignoring the telephone polling and relying only on the online polls.
    Psychologically, I find I'm doing the same thing and concentrating only on the online polls.

    From a betting perspective, it is really important to understand the cause of the difference between the two polling methodologies (Fisher doesn't know so he goes half way).

    In the meantime, in the absence of that understanding and a crystal ball, REMAIN at a 69% chance must be a value bet.

    I agree that as things stand Remain is a value bet. The only thing stopping me piling on Remain is that I cannot produce a suitable forecast "Events" that I am happy with. I have not idea what chance any Event has of happening and I have no clue how soft the Remain vote is to Events.

    Without being able to price in Events I am staying away.
    Well the bad public reaction of the budget was an event.
    It doesn't seem to have affected the betting. We'll soon see whether it has affected the polls.

    Mishandling the Turkey issue could be a serious event.
    It's a seriously dull betting event. Though the US Democrat race has now become a bigger cert for the favourite than this one.
    It's dull because it is a binary event whereas the US election has all the choices, rolling drama and betting opportunites of nominations by state. And that is before we get onto betting on the Senate. That's currently looking like 47 Dem, 50 Rep and 3 too close to call.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417

    I take full responsibility for England in this World t20.

    I tipped and backed them to win.

    "Apology accepted, Captain Needa!"
  • watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474

    I see European Commission has been leaking insider emissions testing information to the big car companies:

    http://corporateeurope.org/power-lobbies/2016/03/leak-shows-commission-giving-inside-information-car-lobby-new-emissions-tests

    Good old EU, working in our interest.

    'While this was news to the general public, the European Commission had known manufacturers were vastly exceeding limits back in 2011...'
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417

    England out of the world cup after one game and 5 overs.

    What the hell have we learnt from the Aussie coach,how not to bowl in limited overs ;-)

    Boring conversation sport anyway :lol:
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
    I mean his exchange price was obviously daft for ages. Emotion has a lot of influence.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump's targets for next week must be to win Arizona, and simply get more than zero delegates in Utah.


    However if he can get 9 in Samoa,
    American Samoa!

    Samoa (former Western Samoa) is an independent nation :)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Blimey, Don Cossack going off at 2-1 ?!

    Crazily short price.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Wanderer said:

    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
    I mean his exchange price was obviously daft for ages. Emotion has a lot of influence.
    Well every time someone places a bet there's a layer, value is about opinion as much as probability. A long price doesn't equate to value.

    btw who is Rubio?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump's targets for next week must be to win Arizona, and simply get more than zero delegates in Utah.


    However if he can get 9 in Samoa,
    American Samoa!

    Samoa (former Western Samoa) is an independent nation :)
    The "American" seemed superfluous in a conversation about the states and territories of the US.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    Wanderer said:

    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
    I mean his exchange price was obviously daft for ages. Emotion has a lot of influence.
    Well every time someone places a bet there's a layer, value is about opinion as much as probability. A long price doesn't equate to value.

    btw who is Rubio?
    Well his father was a bartender, and his mother was a maid.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,387
    Pulpstar said:

    Blimey, Don Cossack going off at 2-1 ?!

    Crazily short price.

    Don Cossack? Russian mafia boss???
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417

    Pulpstar said:

    Blimey, Don Cossack going off at 2-1 ?!

    Crazily short price.

    Don Cossack? Russian mafia boss???
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cossacks
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Been sending off ARCs (advanced review copies) to reviewers. I am not remotely nervous. Ahem.

    F1: my pre-qualifying ramble is here: http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/australia-pre-qualifying.html

    Not sure why, but I've got a feeling Raikkonen won't finish. Also, don't forget the McLaren has typically done better in Australia than elsewhere.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    Pulpstar said:

    Blimey, Don Cossack going off at 2-1 ?!

    Crazily short price.

    Don Cossack? Russian mafia boss???
    He's won !
    Still say the price was too short - Cue card fell. Don Poli needed another mile :D
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    Sky score predictor...229....easy peasy....LOL...

    it'll be way out - oh wait.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,417

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump's targets for next week must be to win Arizona, and simply get more than zero delegates in Utah.


    However if he can get 9 in Samoa,
    American Samoa!

    Samoa (former Western Samoa) is an independent nation :)
    The "American" seemed superfluous in a conversation about the states and territories of the US.
    The United States Department of State Background Note web page for neighboring Samoa notes that:

    In July 1997 the Constitution was amended to change the country's name from Western Samoa to Samoa (officially the "Independent State of Samoa").[43] Western Samoa had been known simply as Samoa in the United Nations since joining the organization in 1976. The neighbouring U.S. territory of American Samoa protested the move, feeling that the change diminished its own Samoan identity. American Samoans still use the terms Western Samoa and Western Samoans.[44]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Samoa
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    If we're talking value I'm happy to lay Chelsea at 1.8 tomorrow at home to West Ham.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Cromwell-adamus strikes again ....

    Rubio - Not POTUS .. Not GOP Nominee .. Not a politician soon ....

    Is he tipping the Trumpster next? .... :smile:
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999
    I think this is just an IEP, which is being foisted onto Virgin: they didn't have a choice.

    For reasons I've given before, I fear the IEP project is going to be a bit of a disaster for taxpayer and passengers alike.

    A bit of misinformation from Virgin there. Then again, Branson thinks train drivers 'steer' trains ....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    Just laid Bush at 80 and backed Rubio at 730. And made net money out of it.

    Funny old world.
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited March 2016
    Is 2.5 overs England's fastest ever (team) 50, in any format of the game?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    edited March 2016

    Just laid Bush at 80 and backed Rubio at 730. And made net money out of it.

    Funny old world.

    lol

    Just had a grand national bet myself, Don Poli @ 25s (Betvictor). Too one paced in the gold cup, needs further :p. Aintree is the only place that is further...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    Pulpstar said:

    Wanderer said:

    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
    I mean his exchange price was obviously daft for ages. Emotion has a lot of influence.
    Well every time someone places a bet there's a layer, value is about opinion as much as probability. A long price doesn't equate to value.

    btw who is Rubio?
    Well his father was a bartender, and his mother was a maid.
    The failure of his campaign has clearly deeply affected him on a personal level. Quite possibly because he put his parents and his personal story right at the heart of it.

    I think he genuinely thought that was enough.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ladbrokes having the worst Cheltenham Festival in history.

    I can't tell you how upset I am by that...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Just laid Bush at 80 and backed Rubio at 730. And made net money out of it.

    Funny old world.

    lol

    Just had a grand national bet myself, Don Poli @ 25s (Betvictor). Too one paced in the gold cup, needs further :p. Aintree is the only place that is further...
    I am in the market for good National bet tips :-)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    Pulpstar said:

    Just laid Bush at 80 and backed Rubio at 730. And made net money out of it.

    Funny old world.

    lol

    Just had a grand national bet myself, Don Poli @ 25s (Betvictor). Too one paced in the gold cup, needs further :p. Aintree is the only place that is further...
    I am in the market for good National bet tips :-)
    The only mark against him is his age, 7 is quite young for a national horse. But he looks like he'll stay all day and his jumping is solid enough. He IS very, very lazy but the national is a long old race...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    Heidi Allen MP truly is a TINO.

    If I were a whip, and this were the mid-1990s, I'd have her top of the defection watchlist.

    If I were in the South Cambridgeshire Conservative Association I wouldn't be reselecting her for the new boundaries.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Royale, TINO?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Pulpstar said:

    Wanderer said:

    Wanderer said:

    since exchanges came to the fore pricing is so tight that ricks in the market are very rare.

    A Mr Rubio left a message for you
    Eh?
    I mean his exchange price was obviously daft for ages. Emotion has a lot of influence.
    Well every time someone places a bet there's a layer, value is about opinion as much as probability. A long price doesn't equate to value.

    btw who is Rubio?
    Well his father was a bartender, and his mother was a maid.
    The failure of his campaign has clearly deeply affected him on a personal level. Quite possibly because he put his parents and his personal story right at the heart of it.

    I think he genuinely thought that was enough.
    Life's a bitch .... if his father was a maid and his mother a bartender he's have been a POTUS cert .... :smile:
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Another raid underway in Brussels. One wounded + one possible death...

    update: Reports it's Abdeslam
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Just laid Bush at 80 and backed Rubio at 730. And made net money out of it.

    Funny old world.

    lol

    Just had a grand national bet myself, Don Poli @ 25s (Betvictor). Too one paced in the gold cup, needs further :p. Aintree is the only place that is further...
    I am in the market for good National bet tips :-)
    The only mark against him is his age, 7 is quite young for a national horse. But he looks like he'll stay all day and his jumping is solid enough. He IS very, very lazy but the national is a long old race...
    Seems a bit short??
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262

    Mr. Royale, TINO?

    Tory In Name Only
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Royale, ah. What's she done/doing?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    RodCrosby said:

    Another raid underway in Brussels. One wounded + one possible death...

    update: Reports it's Abdeslam

    Bloody hell, I was in Brussels a few days ago for a few hours in between changing trains.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Heidi Allen MP truly ....

    If I were a whip, and this were the mid-1990s, I'd have her top off....

    Saucy .. :smiley:



  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262

    Mr. Royale, ah. What's she done/doing?

    What hasn't she done?

    I can detect a single centre-right thing about her.

    She should be in the Labour Party.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Pacha Du Polda would have won that with a better jockey, flew up the hill.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    Well done her! I'm eating my words, I thought she'd be jumped off at the first fence, but she dropped him out, hunted round the back and ran on very respectably.

    Very impressed well done Ms Pendleton.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,262
    JackW said:

    Heidi Allen MP truly ....

    If I were a whip, and this were the mid-1990s, I'd have her top off....

    Saucy .. :smiley:



    Oi, not you again Jack!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,312
    Pulpstar said:

    Pacha Du Polda would have won that with a better jockey, flew up the hill.

    That's what I was thinking!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Average of EU polls since Cameron named the date (excluding non ballot questions):

    Remain 41%
    Leave 40%
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    Pulpstar said:

    Pacha Du Polda would have won that with a better jockey, flew up the hill.

    Well maybe but it's an amateurs' race, even though a Cheltenham Foxhunters' amateur is not the same as a Ludlow amateur.

    For her first ride round Cheltenham she did amazingly. Not a danger to anyone, not embarrassing herself, not anything apart from applying all the lessons she has learned and doing it very nicely.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Royale, fair enough.

    Reselections have largely been seen through the Chairman Corbyn prism, but it could be a means for Conservative associations to axe Cameroons and try to bolster the right of the party's presence in Parliament.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Not exactly a great advert for the EU to have armed battles going on in its capital on a regular basis.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    What a day at Cheltenham.

    A double on the first and the Gold Cup

    Winner in the 2nd (thanks to Pricewise)

    Winner in the last (2/1 on Victoria Pendleton finishing)

    and still 2 races to go.

    The Bookies have lost £60m, and I have collected some of it for a change
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    tlg86 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Pacha Du Polda would have won that with a better jockey, flew up the hill.

    That's what I was thinking!
    I half considered backing it ! Decided against it as I thought Vicky might fall or else not give it best chance. Half right.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Sonjamclaughlan: Owner of Pache du Polder tells @5liveSport the plan is for Victoria Pendleton to ride in the Foxhunters at Aintree
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Winner in the last (2/1 on Victoria Pendleton finishing) o_O Who was that with ?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Pulpstar said:

    Winner in the last (2/1 on Victoria Pendleton finishing) o_O Who was that with ?

    Corals
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Gah that was a great bet.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756

    Mr. Royale, fair enough.

    Reselections have largely been seen through the Chairman Corbyn prism, but it could be a means for Conservative associations to axe Cameroons and try to bolster the right of the party's presence in Parliament.

    In fairness to Cameron, I'm pretty sure that Heidi Allen isn't a Cameroon. She's well to the left of that.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    AndyJS said:

    Not exactly a great advert for the EU to have armed battles going on in its capital on a regular basis.

    Events, dear boy, events.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Well what Thistlecrack gave, Don Poli took.

    Took Skybet to the cleaners on wednesday anyway so overall a very good festival (Entirely due to Sprinter Sacre) :)
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Sean_F said:

    Mr. Royale, fair enough.

    Reselections have largely been seen through the Chairman Corbyn prism, but it could be a means for Conservative associations to axe Cameroons and try to bolster the right of the party's presence in Parliament.

    In fairness to Cameron, I'm pretty sure that Heidi Allen isn't a Cameroon. She's well to the left of that.
    Her speech was terrific !
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    The Saffers have not worked it out that they need slow bowlers here.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    This is awesome. Andrew Neil meets his match

    https://amp.twimg.com/v/a1ab77c2-6c07-4bb0-8da7-d6eeec5dbf36
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    O/T: I've removed Rubio from the GOP field.

    Trump gains in the forecast, looks like Kasich will finish third in delegates.

    Add in the previous comments about Rubio's existing delegates being re-allocated, and Trump is surely over the line?

    Still available at 1.41 on BF.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    breaking: wounded Abdeslam in custody.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Crosby, that's some good news. Hope his wound is painful.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    surbiton said:

    Sean_F said:

    Mr. Royale, fair enough.

    Reselections have largely been seen through the Chairman Corbyn prism, but it could be a means for Conservative associations to axe Cameroons and try to bolster the right of the party's presence in Parliament.

    In fairness to Cameron, I'm pretty sure that Heidi Allen isn't a Cameroon. She's well to the left of that.
    Her speech was terrific !
    From a Labour point of view.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    And another winner!
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Moeen and Jordan still in the hutch. Looking good for England !
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    It's a stroll for England.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    An EU source told the BBC up to 72,000 Syrian migrants living in Turkey would be settled in the EU under the agreement.

    Yeh and how many other thousands above that number that these Lords of ours have left out of the reconing.
    I bet that Macedonia, Hungary, Austria and Slovenia are battening down the hatches.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35840272
    Migrant crisis: Turkey and EU reach deal on returns
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    MikeK said:

    An EU source told the BBC up to 72,000 Syrian migrants living in Turkey would be settled in the EU under the agreement.

    Yeh and how many other thousands above that number that these Lords of ours have left out of the reconing.
    I bet that Macedonia, Hungary, Austria and Slovenia are battening down the hatches.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35840272
    Migrant crisis: Turkey and EU reach deal on returns

    Hungary and Slovakia should be kicked out of the EU. What do they contribute ? F*** All.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Scott_P said:

    And another winner!

    Well done, quite a successful Cheltenham festival – you are allowed to gloat until tea time.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Looks like the Rubio's Alaska and Nevada delegates have been reallocated to Trump and Cruz now that he has dropped out.
    That's 9 extra delegates for Trump I think, that puts him at 20 above 1237 in my forecast.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Speedy said:

    Looks like the Rubio's Alaska and Nevada delegates have been reallocated to Trump and Cruz now that he has dropped out.
    That's 9 extra delegates for Trump I think, that puts him at 20 above 1237 in my forecast.

    Nevada has been reallocated ?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Well done, quite a successful Cheltenham festival – you are allowed to gloat until tea time.

    May have to crack a bottle of the Tim Adams Aberfeldy this evening
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    Looks like the Rubio's Alaska and Nevada delegates have been reallocated to Trump and Cruz now that he has dropped out.
    That's 9 extra delegates for Trump I think, that puts him at 20 above 1237 in my forecast.

    Nevada has been reallocated ?
    And Kentucky might too:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happens-to-marco-rubios-delegates/

    "States where Rubio's delegates can or will be reallocated to another candidate:

    Kentucky, Alaska, Nevada

    In a small handful of states where Rubio has picked up delegates, the states' rules allow for those delegates to be reallocated to other candidates ahead of the convention (all in different ways, of course).

    In Kentucky, Rubio's 7 now-unbound delegates must meet together with the state's bound delegates to hold a secret ballot through which the unbound delegates will be re-allocated to another candidate.

    In Alaska, when a candidate leaves the race his or her delegates are simply proportionally redistributed to the remaining candidates. In the case of this year's caucuses, Cruz earned 12 delegates, Trump earned 11 and Rubio earned 5; Rubio's will be redistributed to Cruz and Trump.

    And in Nevada, the withdrawing candidate has three options (in this case, Rubio has 7): the bound delegates can be kept; or those delegates can be released to vote for whichever candidate they like; or at the state convention, the delegates to be proportionally re-allocated to the remaining candidates."
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    A dot ball !
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    Looks like the Rubio's Alaska and Nevada delegates have been reallocated to Trump and Cruz now that he has dropped out.
    That's 9 extra delegates for Trump I think, that puts him at 20 above 1237 in my forecast.

    Nevada has been reallocated ?
    Apparently it will be:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happens-to-marco-rubios-delegates/

    And it looks good for Trump in Kentucky.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999
    MikeK said:

    An EU source told the BBC up to 72,000 Syrian migrants living in Turkey would be settled in the EU under the agreement.

    Yeh and how many other thousands above that number that these Lords of ours have left out of the reconing.
    I bet that Macedonia, Hungary, Austria and Slovenia are battening down the hatches.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35840272
    Migrant crisis: Turkey and EU reach deal on returns

    Sorry, what's your complaint? That the EU is allowing 72,000 in, and that is too many? That the figure they'll be letting in under the scheme is higher? That the scheme should not be done because some will try to get in illegally?
  • O/T Democracy in action.
    "One survivor of the Bataclan massacre told of how a group 40 barricaded themselves in a tiny room for three hours, and were only saved from the gunmen thanks to the result of a vote, that was only won by a narrow majority."

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20160318/how-a-show-of-hands-saved-40-from-bataclan-killers
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