Going by oddschecker, Sanders is still 4/1 for the nomination. I'm beginning to think that there's some value there.
The fly in the ointment is that the next two rounds will go against him. He can write a loss in South Carolina off as long as he doesn't do too badly but Super Tuesday will be harder given the number of states up then. However, he could take a majority of states up in the two rounds following on shortly thereafter (i.e. two of three), which would keep him in the game.
Hillary still ought to do it but frankly she ought to be out of sight by now. As it is, she's looking at the very real possibility of having lost two of the first three states and only just scraped the other. Is that really form to give her four shots in five?
Lets wait. I'm not convinced that Sanders will win Nevada.
President - Dem Caucus 367 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 21% Name Party Votes Vote % Clinton, Hillary Dem 887 50% Sanders, Bernie Dem 873 50% Uncommitted Dem 3 0% Other Dem 0 0%
President - Dem Caucus 414 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 24% Name Party Votes Vote % Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,043 51% Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,001 49% Uncommitted Dem 3 0% Other Dem 0 0%
President - Dem Caucus 440 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 26% Name Party Votes Vote % Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,132 51% Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,087 49% Uncommitted Dem 3 0% Other Dem 0 0%
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So far 112/1022 reporting Clinton 421 / 55% to Sanders 349 / 45% if that gap remains her lead increases. Sanders to win needs to be narrowing that lead.
President - Dem Caucus 491 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 29% Name Party Votes Vote % Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,297 51% Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,252 49% Uncommitted Dem 3 0% Other Dem 0 0%
Edited extra bit: for those unaware, it was a short-lived BBC sci-fi programme. Shame, as most of the ingredients were good, but the plots were less than stellar.
No heir to Heath. And will be regarded as such forever more.
Heath was awesome. Took Middlesbrough out of Yorkshire.
Another of the criminal acts he committed!!! Messing with the county boundaries is almost a greater crime than selling us out to the EU.
Can we agree that he was right to sack Powell after that speech that increased attacks on non whites?
Yes he was right to sack Powell. I won't go into a detailed nuanced discussion about why as I am sure Isam will disagree but Heath had no choice to sack him and was right to do so even if he did have a choice.
I think that will be the result in both cases, but I think Clinton will beat Trump by less than 1% and Remain will win by no more than 52%-48% so plenty to play for yet!
BTW Mr Tyndall I've only just heard within the last hour my Norweigan resident brother in law tell me that 'we are not in the EU but we do all they tell us'. I'll grant you some modest hyperbole.
Fortunately your Norwegian Brother in Law is wrong. But then whether it is Norway, the UK, France or Outer Mongolia there is usually a big divide between public perceptions and reality.
It's a sod, the public having a vote.
Not at all. It just means we have to persuade them. Of course in the case of Norway the Government dearly wishes the public didn't have the vote because every time they ask the EU question they get beaten.
The Norweigan people keep voting in governments that apply EU regulations and edicts even though they are not in the EU. Norway, not in the EU, has had to act despite being in Schengen to bring in controls to halt Syrian immigrants. But only at the moment for 20 days. This is because EU Sweden chose to bring in border controls. Non EU Norway has had thousands of Syrian immigrants. In recent times some 29,000 asylum seekers have entered Norway. Russia as not been helpful.
Actually I agree with almost everything you say there but don't quite get your point.
Norway as a country is rather like me as a person as far as the questions of the EU and immigration go. Anti-EU, pro moderate immigration. Whilst I dislike many things about Norway their amazing ability to integrate and nationalise immigrants is enviable and one I wish we could achieve. One of the strange things about the Anders Brevik thing was his claims about the evils of multicultralism. Norway is perhaps the most un-multicultural country in Europe. They do everything they can to try and make sure their immigrants integrate, learn the language and customs and become thoroughly Norwegian.
So as I say, Norway is a great example to us in many ways. And they vote against the EU at every opportunity.
President - Dem Caucus 661 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 39% Name Party Votes Vote % Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,960 51% Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,852 49% Uncommitted Dem 4 0%
Did they only phone those in the phone book with the surname Farage?
?? It's a huge Remain lead. I do despair of the British people sometimes. The proles are obviously absurdly grateful to Cameron for championing our right to donate money to Polish kids (in Poland) at THE LOCAL RATE.
People obviously think Dave got a cracking deal then.
I think it's like getting a small money-off coupon (tiny in this case) for a purchase you were already going to make. It's a little win. As it happens it's no win at all, but there we go.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound Cameron says sceptics are misleading public on immigration. They must spell out what out looks like. See Sunday Times splash.
Did they only phone those in the phone book with the surname Farage?
?? It's a huge Remain lead. I do despair of the British people sometimes. The proles are obviously absurdly grateful to Cameron for championing our right to donate money to Polish kids (in Poland) at THE LOCAL RATE.
We are a demoralised nation.
This evening I asked my older daughter's babymother (soft left-centre, but prone to quite right wing thoughts) how she was gonna vote. She said she hadn't decided, she was deeply torn, but she felt sorry for David Cameron, having to sell that terrible deal.
She is a smart woman (First Class Degree in English) and knows Cameron brought it all on himself. But she will very likely vote IN, partly out of empathy for Cameron.
If people like her are persuaded to REMAIN by DC, then I think it's over. The best bet for eurosceptics is to take revenge on the Tory Remainians after the vote, usurp the Tory machine a la Jeremy Corbyn, and turn the party into a very serious vehicle for euroscepticism, in preparation for another vote, ten years down the line.
That's the path to ultimate victory. And it will have been laid by DC. Once you have one referendum, having another seems much more reasonable.
We have already had one referendum on the EU/EEC, in 1975, this will be the second and a 15% lead for In would kill the issue for good (though personally I expect it to be very close, this is just the post-deal bounce for Remain)
Did they only phone those in the phone book with the surname Farage?
?? It's a huge Remain lead. I do despair of the British people sometimes. The proles are obviously absurdly grateful to Cameron for championing our right to donate money to Polish kids (in Poland) at THE LOCAL RATE.
We are a demoralised nation.
This evening I asked my older daughter's babymother (soft left-centre, but prone to quite right wing thoughts) how she was gonna vote. She said she hadn't decided, she was deeply torn, but she felt sorry for David Cameron, having to sell that terrible deal.
She is a smart woman (First Class Degree in English) and knows Cameron brought it all on himself. But she will very likely vote IN, partly out of empathy for Cameron.
If people like her are persuaded to REMAIN by DC, then I think it's over. The best bet for eurosceptics is to take revenge on the Tory Remainians after the vote, usurp the Tory machine a la Jeremy Corbyn, and turn the party into a very serious vehicle for euroscepticism, in preparation for another vote, ten years down the line.
That's the path to ultimate victory. And it will have been laid by DC. Once you have one referendum, having another seems much more reasonable.
Strangely enough that anecdote has not cheered me up very much.
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I'm not convinced that Sanders will win Nevada.
I think I might be spoiling my ballot paper, or maybe even removing the 'p' from spoiling.
I wonder if a win for Bernie in Nevada might get him to run.
Clinton 51
Sanders 48.9
Looking at another Iowa-type result?
367 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 21%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Clinton, Hillary Dem 887 50%
Sanders, Bernie Dem 873 50%
Uncommitted Dem 3 0%
Other Dem 0 0%
http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/nv/Dem
414 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 24%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,043 51%
Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,001 49%
Uncommitted Dem 3 0%
Other Dem 0 0%
But there is a moral dilema here. Should freedom allow one the freedom to blow your brains out.
Am I safe?
Clark County population is 2.03m. Nevada in total is 2.83m
Clinton leads in Clark 54/46 with 13% counted. Clark will overwhelm the rest.
440 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 26%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,132 51%
Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,087 49%
Uncommitted Dem 3 0%
Other Dem 0 0%
On an entirely unrelated note, it's possible I'll have two books coming out in the same week (one's an anthology, but still).
So far 112/1022 reporting Clinton 421 / 55% to Sanders 349 / 45% if that gap remains her lead increases. Sanders to win needs to be narrowing that lead.
Honestly, I'd rather have SeanT.
http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/nv/Dem
Amen.
491 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 29%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,297 51%
Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,252 49%
Uncommitted Dem 3 0%
Other Dem 0 0%
Superleague,not so super,a league down to the Aussies.
What time does the GOP race get interesting?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/20/edl-muslims-preston_n_9282370.html?1455996839
Clark 147/1022
587 Clinton 54%
491 Sanders 46%
See you in 2 hours for S.C.
Clinton 665 55%
Sanders 541 45%
Edited extra bit: for those unaware, it was a short-lived BBC sci-fi programme. Shame, as most of the ingredients were good, but the plots were less than stellar.
Plus it is fun to get overexcited. Remember that YouGov Indyref poll?
Clinton 837 56%
Sanders 667 44%
Tempted to call for Clinton but i'll wait for 300+ in - voting started late and that could be due to Sanders supporters turning out.
Statewide 29% in -
Clinton 51.2%
Sanders 48.7%
As I said, Dave preaching economic security is a real vote winner.
Yay!
The last Survation EU referendum poll in January had 4% LEAVE lead
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/jeb-bush-vice-president-donald-trump-219539
Or they've switched from online to phone polling.
Survation do both online and phone poll so the Mail on Sunday survey could be either
Norway as a country is rather like me as a person as far as the questions of the EU and immigration go. Anti-EU, pro moderate immigration. Whilst I dislike many things about Norway their amazing ability to integrate and nationalise immigrants is enviable and one I wish we could achieve. One of the strange things about the Anders Brevik thing was his claims about the evils of multicultralism. Norway is perhaps the most un-multicultural country in Europe. They do everything they can to try and make sure their immigrants integrate, learn the language and customs and become thoroughly Norwegian.
So as I say, Norway is a great example to us in many ways. And they vote against the EU at every opportunity.
Washoe 55% reporting (233/422): Sanders ahead 51.5-48.5
Clark 23% reporting (231/1022): Clinton ahead 55-45
Looks over?
Clinton 1,072 55%
Sanders 884 45%
https://royaleleseaux.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/is-it-worth-betting-on-an-eu-referendum-during-the-lifetime-of-the-next-government/
661 of 1714 Precincts Reporting - 39%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Clinton, Hillary Dem 1,960 51%
Sanders, Bernie Dem 1,852 49%
Uncommitted Dem 4 0%
We are a demoralised nation.
Well my Osborne betslip looks good even though its underwater right now.
And who wants to tell the nice lady on the phone that you are a racist?
Clinton 1,284 55%
Sanders1,062 45%
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/what-was-said-at-the-eu-referendum-cabinet/
Cameron says sceptics are misleading public on immigration. They must spell out what out looks like. See Sunday Times splash.
LOL
Washoe 132 precincts left, Sanders +2%. Clark 686 left, Clinton +9%.