Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
New national poll taken concurrently with the surprising NBC one which showed Cruz overtaking Trump. This one shows nothing much changing: Trump 35, Cruz 18, Rubio 12, Kasich 11, everyone else nowhere.
Cameron now getting more dissatisfied ratings than either Corbyn or Farage, I see. What is the last box (showing Big Ben) a measurement of - Parliament in general?
I think Big Ben is "The Government" and iirc it's been on their monthly reports for a while.
Alternatively it could rise. Or it may stay the same. Who the f8ck knows??
Believe me (or better still, Goldman Sachs), it will fall, and quite sharply, on a Leave result.
That's against the dollar. Against the Euro, it's less clear, given that the Eurozone would also be badly hit by the uncertainty of what Brexit would mean.
Of course, this is talking short-to-medium term. Once any new settlement is sorted - which will take at least two years - there's no particular reason to suppose we'd end up with a different sterling valuation to that which we would have had if we stay in.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
Why TSE? You have known the choices from the very start as has everyone posting on here. This is hardly news, at least for those of us following the debate, and neither is it the chosen option for many of us.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
More realistically, Britain post-Brexit would probably resemble the USA in the Running Man.
Alternatively it could rise. Or it may stay the same. Who the f8ck knows??
Believe me (or better still, Goldman Sachs), it will fall, and quite sharply, on a Leave result.
That's against the dollar. Against the Euro, it's less clear, given that the Eurozone would also be badly hit by the uncertainty of what Brexit would mean.
Of course, this is talking short-to-medium term. Once any new settlement is sorted - which will take at least two years - there's no particular reason to suppose we'd end up with a different sterling valuation to that which we would have had if we stay in.
The alternative will not necessarily take at least 2 years. 2 years is the maximum standard time allowed under Article 50 with the options of extensions if necessary. But for example if the move was to EFTA and the EEA there is no need to wait 2 years for this to be decided and enacted.
Why TSE? You have known the choices from the very start as has everyone posting on here. This is hardly news, at least for those of us following the debate, and neither is it the chosen option for many of us.
Another state school educated Tory coming out for Leave.
As hordes of state-school educated Tory voters, members and supporters will also do.
Hey, have the guys with the sense of the entitlement, educated as boarders at Eton and other Clarendon schools, lost their skills of leadership? Better blame the ungrateful lower downs, eh?
Alternatively it could rise. Or it may stay the same. Who the f8ck knows??
Believe me (or better still, Goldman Sachs), it will fall, and quite sharply, on a Leave result.
That's against the dollar. Against the Euro, it's less clear, given that the Eurozone would also be badly hit by the uncertainty of what Brexit would mean.
Of course, this is talking short-to-medium term. Once any new settlement is sorted - which will take at least two years - there's no particular reason to suppose we'd end up with a different sterling valuation to that which we would have had if we stay in.
The alternative will not necessarily take at least 2 years. 2 years is the maximum standard time allowed under Article 50 with the options of extensions if necessary. But for example if the move was to EFTA and the EEA there is no need to wait 2 years for this to be decided and enacted.
There would need to be legislation drafted and enacted, but still, two years should be easily achievable, and it might be possible to do it in 18 months
Jacob Rees Mogg, Eton and Owen Patterson, Radley and Dan Hannan, Marlborough are for Leave Comp Educated Greg Clark, Stephen Crabb and Liz Truss for Remain alongside ex coalminer Patrick Mcloughlin
The alternative will not necessarily take at least 2 years. 2 years is the maximum standard time allowed under Article 50 with the options of extensions if necessary. But for example if the move was to EFTA and the EEA there is no need to wait 2 years for this to be decided and enacted.
There's not a snowflake's chance in hell of it being agreed much before the 2-year deadline, if indeed that deadline is attainable. It's much more likely that there will need to be an extension to the deadline.
For a start, we don't actually know what we want yet. You need to factor in a few months to debate that.
Then there is the horrendously complicated set of negotations with the 27 other EU countries, the three EEA countries, and the EU institutions. It's slightly unclear whether the EU bit of could be done by QMV, but I think unanimous consent is probably going to be required.
Then there's the legal drafting, and the knock-on effect to dozens, maybe hundreds, of other international agreements.
This ain't gonna be quick, whatever deal we go for.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
The alternative will not necessarily take at least 2 years. 2 years is the maximum standard time allowed under Article 50 with the options of extensions if necessary. But for example if the move was to EFTA and the EEA there is no need to wait 2 years for this to be decided and enacted.
There's not a snowflake's chance in hell of it being agreed much before the 2-year deadline, if indeed that deadline is attainable. It's much more likely that there will need to be an extension to the deadline.
For a start, we don't actually know what we want yet. You need to factor in a few months to debate that.
Then there is the horrendously complicated set of negotations with the 27 other EU countries, the three EEA countries, and the EU institutions. It's slightly unclear whether the EU bit of could be done by QMV, but I think unanimous consent is probably going to be required.
Then there's the legal drafting, and the knock-on effect to dozens, maybe hundreds, of other international agreements.
This ain't gonna be quick, whatever deal we go for.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
I hink a 20% fall is on the high end of estimates, much as I wish it would so - the US has some potential black swan threats to it's own currency (Cruz/Sanders presidency) that we can't completely rule out. I'd expect a 5 - 10% fall against the dollar and perhaps a 0 - 5% fall against the Euro personally.
I hink a 20% fall is on the high end of estimates, much as I wish it would so - the US has some potential black swan threats to it's own currency (Cruz/Sanders presidency) that we can't completely rule out. I'd expect a 5 - 10% fall against the dollar and perhaps a 0 - 5% fall against the Euro personally.
Yeah, sounds about right. To be fair, the 20% was Goldman's upper limit IIRC.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
I've asked Shadsy to add Penny M to the next Tory leader market.
She's unlikely to be *next* Tory leader, but must be a possible in the future. Great personality, and a wicked sense of humour as we have seen with both the Loyal Address and the adjournment debate on poultry farming following her lost bet at the Officers' dinner.
I hink a 20% fall is on the high end of estimates, much as I wish it would so - the US has some potential black swan threats to it's own currency (Cruz/Sanders presidency) that we can't completely rule out. I'd expect a 5 - 10% fall against the dollar and perhaps a 0 - 5% fall against the Euro personally.
It's already fallen substantially against both currencies since the autumn. That could continue and accelerate - often the initial effects are quite extreme when currencies fluctuate.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
'' Remain theologists find fifth Horseman 'Brexit' in ancient texts shock''.
'' Beware Ides of Brexit, not March, Caesar actually told, according to Remain Scholar...''
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Crude might go up, crude might go down.
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
In people's minds the association could easily be made - especially as a large fall in sterling would put up a lot of other prices.
I hink a 20% fall is on the high end of estimates, much as I wish it would so - the US has some potential black swan threats to it's own currency (Cruz/Sanders presidency) that we can't completely rule out. I'd expect a 5 - 10% fall against the dollar and perhaps a 0 - 5% fall against the Euro personally.
It's already fallen substantially against both currencies since the autumn. That could continue and accelerate - often the initial effects are quite extreme when currencies fluctuate.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Crude might go up, crude might go down.
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
In people's minds the association could easily be made - especially as a large fall in sterling would put up a lot of other prices.
Quite a relief its dropped from 1.4 to the €, you must agree.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
'' Remain theologists find fifth Horseman 'Brexit' in ancient texts shock''.
'' Beware Ides of Brexit, not March, Caesar actually told, according to Remain Scholar...''
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
'' Remain theologists find fifth Horseman 'Brexit' in ancient texts shock''.
'' Beware Ides of Brexit, not March, Caesar actually told, according to Remain Scholar...''
The Latin name for the Black Death bacterium? Brexitus brexitus.....
I hink a 20% fall is on the high end of estimates, much as I wish it would so - the US has some potential black swan threats to it's own currency (Cruz/Sanders presidency) that we can't completely rule out. I'd expect a 5 - 10% fall against the dollar and perhaps a 0 - 5% fall against the Euro personally.
It's already fallen substantially against both currencies since the autumn. That could continue and accelerate - often the initial effects are quite extreme when currencies fluctuate.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
Most of the currency commentators consider the uncertainty to be one of the factors.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Crude might go up, crude might go down.
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
In people's minds the association could easily be made - especially as a large fall in sterling would put up a lot of other prices.
Quite a relief its dropped from 1.4 to the €, you must agree.
Lol - I live in Spain with a UK pension. So no. Most of our visitors tend to like a high exchange rate.
Premature babies will die in hospitals, potholes will go unfulfilled, continental wine will no longer be available, my home could be repossessed, Frenchmen could refuse to take my bookings, the BBC will close, for good, my wife may leave me, my rabbit could develop myxomatosis and I could discover I have a nasty case of syphilis 'down there'.
Isiah predicted the consequences of Brexit, thousands of years ago:-
"Thorns will come up in its fortified towers, Nettles and thistles in its fortified cities; It will also be a haunt of jackals And an abode of ostriches. The desert creatures will meet with the wolves, The satyr also will cry to its kind; Yes, the night monster will settle there And will find herself a resting place. The tree snake will make its nest and lay eggs there, And it will hatch and gather them under its protection. Yes, the hawks will be gathered there, Every one with its kind.…"
And then there's the passage on ''Brexitus'' in Revelations....
'' Remain theologists find fifth Horseman 'Brexit' in ancient texts shock''.
'' Beware Ides of Brexit, not March, Caesar actually told, according to Remain Scholar...''
The Latin name for the Black Death bacterium? Brexitus brexitus.....
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
Will Straw of the Leave campaign seems to be deliberately muddying the difference between access to the single market and membership of the single market. A 'next generation' trade deal with EU would give UK access but not membership. It would be equivalent to what Canada has with NAFTA.
Complaining that we would not be in the room is bogus criticism as Will Straw is silent about the fact we would not be involved in Eurozone summits when they decide common position without us.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
Momentum, the movement run for the people by the people, are launching a new series of lectures titled “People’s Philosophy, Politics and Economics”.
Of course not, the first event will be held in a community centre in Hackney. Headlining are failed Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis and Mufti Abdur-Rahman Ibn Yusuf Mangera, an imam who previously warned of the dangers of capitalism:
Trump’s strongest showing among self-identified Republicans is in New England, followed by the mid-Atlantic and then the Southeast. Trump is really crushing it in states like Massachusetts. Although it is probably important to distinguish between total population support, and support among people who are likely to ultimately vote for the Republican nominee.
There is also a huge East-West divide. In the Mountain West and West Coast, Trump’s lead over Cruz is in the single digits in the R-I poll. In New England, by contrast, it’s nearly 40 points, with Trump in first at 48% and Cruz at a very distant second at under 10%.
If we limited migration of course we would have lower GDP. What matters for wellbeing of British citizens is GDP per capita, but banks don't really care about that.
Are you suggesting it's fallen because of the speculation over our membership of the EU? I'd point out that it's fallen in spite of us being in the EU.
If we limited migration of course we would have lower GDP. What matters for wellbeing of British citizens is GDP per capita, but banks don't really care about that.
Sure, if voters want to make that trade-off, that's democracy. As long as they are not conned into thinking there is no downside, it's fine.
However, the link I gave is useful because it's gives the independent views of informed observers who have no axe to grind. Doesn't guarantee they are right, of course.
If we limited migration of course we would have lower GDP. What matters for wellbeing of British citizens is GDP per capita, but banks don't really care about that.
Sure, if voters want to make that trade-off, that's democracy. As long as they are not conned into thinking there is no downside, it's fine.
However, the link I gave is useful because it's gives the independent views of informed observers who have no axe to grind. Doesn't guarantee they are right, of course.
Conservative ministers are rethinking their plans to slash funding for opposition parties in a way that could ease the pain for Labour but deal a blow to smaller parties such as Ukip and the Greens.
If we limited migration of course we would have lower GDP. What matters for wellbeing of British citizens is GDP per capita, but banks don't really care about that.
Lol - you mean if we send all the existing ones home those left would be as rich as Croesus
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A fall of 20% in Sterling would be welcomed by exporters among others of course...and implied exchange rates vs € and $ would hardly be unprecedented.
Still waiting for a convincing positive reason to Remain. (As opposed to a dubiously speculative scare-story based one I mean)
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Crude might go up, crude might go down.
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
In people's minds the association could easily be made - especially as a large fall in sterling would put up a lot of other prices.
Quite a relief its dropped from 1.4 to the €, you must agree.
Lol - I live in Spain with a UK pension. So no. Most of our visitors tend to like a high exchange rate.
I earn mostly in dollars and pay my mortgage in Sterling, so I prefer that rate high from a British perspective. I admit I'm in the minority there.
Momentum, the movement run for the people by the people, are launching a new series of lectures titled “People’s Philosophy, Politics and Economics”.
Of course not, the first event will be held in a community centre in Hackney. Headlining are failed Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis and Mufti Abdur-Rahman Ibn Yusuf Mangera, an imam who previously warned of the dangers of capitalism:
As I said on the previous thread there are already many of us who feel UKIP's usefulness passed once the election results were in. They could perhaps have reformed themselves into a more Libertarian party but not under Farage who, for all his Libertarian leanings, was far to interested in pursuing a populist agenda to further his own political career.
Virtually every EU country makes a profit out of a tariff-free trade deal with the UK presently. It's difficult to imagine the bosses at BMW etc beating Frau Merkel's door down to put a stop to it.
That really is desperation by REMAIN with no basis in fact at all.
What's it got to do with Remain? It's the AA. You do know the difference, I suppose?
It is total bollocks, of course. Sterling could fall by as much as 20% as a result of Brexit, although I think that's a very high estimate, but the AA seem to think the petrol price would rise proportionately.
A big fall in sterling would push petrol and a lot of other prices higher.
See my working, any effect on fuel prices is quartered. 5% increase in petrol for 20% decrease in sterling.
So I was correct. Of course you also assume crude remains as low as now.
Crude might go up, crude might go down.
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
The reduction in flights to Brussels and Strasbourg by various MEPs and civil servants would reduce the demand for oil...
Momentum, the movement run for the people by the people, are launching a new series of lectures titled “People’s Philosophy, Politics and Economics”.
Of course not, the first event will be held in a community centre in Hackney. Headlining are failed Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis and Mufti Abdur-Rahman Ibn Yusuf Mangera, an imam who previously warned of the dangers of capitalism:
Still waiting for a convincing positive reason to Remain. (As opposed to a dubiously speculative scare-story based one I mean)
The positive reason which has convinced me is that it looks better than the alternatives. As simple as that. No scare stories involved either way.
LOL. You are one of those perpetrating the scare stories.
Really? What scare stories have I perpetuated?
The idea that the City will suffer if we leave. The idea that trade will suffer if we leave. The idea that our GDP will drop and we will see a Sterling crash.
The whole basis of your argument has been negative. I don't recall you ever having made a single positive case for remaining in the EU.
Virtually every EU country makes a profit out of a tariff-free trade deal with the UK presently. It's difficult to imagine the bosses at BMW etc beating Frau Merkel's door down to put a stop to it.
As I may have said before, the EU should be paying us to be in, not the other way round. They sell us many more BMWs than we sell them Jaguars.
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That's against the dollar. Against the Euro, it's less clear, given that the Eurozone would also be badly hit by the uncertainty of what Brexit would mean.
Of course, this is talking short-to-medium term. Once any new settlement is sorted - which will take at least two years - there's no particular reason to suppose we'd end up with a different sterling valuation to that which we would have had if we stay in.
Brexit campaigners have conceded UK outside the EU wouldn’t have access to the single market
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12163008/Brexit-campaigners-have-conceded-UK-outside-the-EU-wouldnt-have-access-to-the-single-market.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
There is however a Book of Revelation.
Total garbage. Again though note the proxy war element of this - cuddly middle England organisations pressed into service to push pro-EU propaganda.
National Trust next, perhaps? Stately homes and footpaths to close because of Brexit?
Is this a hedge against Leave or Remain?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11263685/Watch-Penny-Mordaunts-cock-speech-to-Parliament.html
Duty 57.95 (Fixed I think)
Retailer 5
VAT on duty & retailer 12.59
Seeing as we're at round about a round £1/litre now, the fuel element is 20.4p ex VAT (24.5p inc VAT)
So if Sterling drops 20%, then we're looking at a 20% increase in the fuel element to 24.5p
The VAT element takes it to 29.4p, a 4.9p increase.
So the AA's figures based off a 20% fall in Sterling mean a 4.9% theoretical increase (All else being equal)
So quarter any changes in sterling to a fuel price rise/fall as a rough rule of thumb.
If Remain wins, on the back of all this nonsense, it will leave the whole issue unsettled.
Thinking about it, perhaps Yvette Cooper could be PM/Labour leader after all.
Sad thats considered worthy of praise... Shows the bookmaking world for what it is
#IFeelLeftOutNowYouAreNotRacist #PleaseLetMeBeTheVictimAgain #GoodLord https://t.co/gLOsEc9ifn
Hey, have the guys with the sense of the entitlement, educated as boarders at Eton and other Clarendon schools, lost their skills of leadership? Better blame the ungrateful lower downs, eh?
For a start, we don't actually know what we want yet. You need to factor in a few months to debate that.
Then there is the horrendously complicated set of negotations with the 27 other EU countries, the three EEA countries, and the EU institutions. It's slightly unclear whether the EU bit of could be done by QMV, but I think unanimous consent is probably going to be required.
Then there's the legal drafting, and the knock-on effect to dozens, maybe hundreds, of other international agreements.
This ain't gonna be quick, whatever deal we go for.
useful.
"But if the negotiations come unstuck in Brussels this week, can Mr Cameron still get his referendum by June?
The short answer is yes. "
This quote is from the editor of the @HuffPostUK explaining why they don't pay writers! https://t.co/uoQlCcH3Oq
http://thebackbencher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ed-balls.jpg
Who knows ?
It's totally unaffected by Brexit.
Maybe if the Navy instructors had been expecting a "Ha'penny", they might have remembered that some people exist who don't carry the "correct" kit.
Admittedly they might have had to think outside their favoured direction of approach.
'' Beware Ides of Brexit, not March, Caesar actually told, according to Remain Scholar...''
(and hundreds of other articles: just Google 'fall sterling brexit' and you'll get the idea).
Who's the Whore of Babylon here?!
Someone who pretends to advocate one side, whilst working for the other.
It will probably rise slightly if there's a deal this week.
Completely off-topic.
You can get a job making cat videos:
Wired Sussex Job
How far the internet has come...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-banks-factbox-idUKKCN0VO0UF
Momentum, the movement run for the people by the people, are launching a new series of lectures titled “People’s Philosophy, Politics and Economics”.
Of course not, the first event will be held in a community centre in Hackney. Headlining are failed Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis and Mufti Abdur-Rahman Ibn Yusuf Mangera, an imam who previously warned of the dangers of capitalism:
http://order-order.com/2016/02/18/momentum-launching-peoples-ppe/
Trump up into the 40s with Ipsos Reuters, Cruz 17, Rubio 10 and bizarrely 10 percent for Carson. Bush is 8.
Reuters-Ipsos has an ongoing daily tracking poll that allows users to create their own cross tabs.
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2
Trump’s strongest showing among self-identified Republicans is in New England, followed by the mid-Atlantic and then the Southeast. Trump is really crushing it in states like Massachusetts. Although it is probably important to distinguish between total population support, and support among people who are likely to ultimately vote for the Republican nominee.
There is also a huge East-West divide. In the Mountain West and West Coast, Trump’s lead over Cruz is in the single digits in the R-I poll. In New England, by contrast, it’s nearly 40 points, with Trump in first at 48% and Cruz at a very distant second at under 10%.
However, the link I gave is useful because it's gives the independent views of informed observers who have no axe to grind. Doesn't guarantee they are right, of course.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/18/conservatives-to-rebalance-cuts-to-opposition-party-funding?CMP=twt_a-politics_b-gdnukpolitics
Still waiting for a convincing positive reason to Remain. (As opposed to a dubiously speculative scare-story based one I mean)
They never are.
US primaries. A reminder that the big evangelical battles are coming.
@washingtonpost chart https://t.co/8lsCLa1hUx
The whole basis of your argument has been negative. I don't recall you ever having made a single positive case for remaining in the EU.
yeah but your cheap bedwetting pantywaist who has no confidence in this great nation and its people.