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  • isam said:

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    Me: "you're pretty French, but also quite non-committal about the whole thing"

    I'll take that!
    I got that as well

    I'd quite like to be a bit French.. My fav book is French, most of my fav footballers, the language is beautiful, the place is cool.

    When you're 100% English for generations back it can be a bit stiff... would be nice to have the influence of another country/culture
    I'm totally comfortable with being 100% English for generations back.

    I have no shame about my country or my heritage, or a feeling it needs to be enriched by others to be valid.
  • EPG said:

    MP_SE said:

    runnymede said:

    'This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.'

    The word 'desperate' is featuring more and more in describing the Remain side's antics. This incident really does show how contemptible they are, dragging the royals in.

    But what does the man on the Clapham omnibus think of Will's position on our membership of the EU? What appears to the politically engaged as desperate behaviour may not even register with most voters. I truly hope they see through Project Fear.
    The thinking is that:

    (1) Shit, this is serious; we might lose this
    (2) The media are being so unfair to us
    (3) Clearly, it's mainly the ignorant plebs that want to vote Leave
    (4) We know they're dumb C2s/Ds and Es
    (5) But they aren't engaged by news, and normal politics and politicians
    (6) So, how can we get through to them?
    (7) Ah, they do like celebrity magazines and gossip, and they love Wills and Kate
    (8) So we'll get Wills to dogwhistle for Remain. Simples!

    It's so transparent it isn't even there.
    The point of the activate-the-queen strategy is surely to appeal to core Conservative voters i.e. older southern and wealthy, not apathetic C2DE who won't vote!
    As TSE says, she is coming..

    Right, must hit the sack. Night all.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,820

    MP_SE said:

    MP_SE said:

    Scott_P said:

    @TelePolitics: Priti Patel tells Tory MPs she plans on playing a 'leading role' in Brexit campaign https://t.co/xqx9lZa7RO

    I'm not holding my breath, but I'm interested to see what Liz Truss and Justine Greening do over the weekend too.

    Not much has been written about them.
    Truss is 100% REMAIN.
    I'm on Truss at 100/1 to be Dave's successor.

    I cannot see a path to her becoming leader. That is assuming that we vote to remain in the EU, Osborne is one of the two candidates and Truss backs REMAIN.
    The evidence is mixed, and given the evidence of welching to date by eurosceptics, I too am sceptical, but I've heard very little from her and also heard she is her own woman:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/has-liz-truss-just-declared-her-support-for-cameron-in-the-referendum/

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2014/12/which-cabinet-ministers-now-want-to-leave-the-eu.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11382246/Liz-Truss-interview-We-have-lost-touch-with-the-land.html

    She may surprise. I'd say she's 70% certain to come out for Remain, but not 100%.
    Liz Truss is dripping wet. Of course she'll support Remain.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,903

    isam said:

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    Me: "you're pretty French, but also quite non-committal about the whole thing"

    I'll take that!
    I got that as well

    I'd quite like to be a bit French.. My fav book is French, most of my fav footballers, the language is beautiful, the place is cool.

    When you're 100% English for generations back it can be a bit stiff... would be nice to have the influence of another country/culture
    I'm totally comfortable with being 100% English for generations back.

    I have no shame about my country or my heritage, or a feeling it needs to be enriched by others to be valid.
    Whoah serious man alert

    Who said anything about what you are saying?

    I just think it'd be nice/exciting to have a bit of something else in my family history
  • EPG said:

    MP_SE said:

    runnymede said:

    'This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.'

    The word 'desperate' is featuring more and more in describing the Remain side's antics. This incident really does show how contemptible they are, dragging the royals in.

    But what does the man on the Clapham omnibus think of Will's position on our membership of the EU? What appears to the politically engaged as desperate behaviour may not even register with most voters. I truly hope they see through Project Fear.
    The thinking is that:

    (1) Shit, this is serious; we might lose this
    (2) The media are being so unfair to us
    (3) Clearly, it's mainly the ignorant plebs that want to vote Leave
    (4) We know they're dumb C2s/Ds and Es
    (5) But they aren't engaged by news, and normal politics and politicians
    (6) So, how can we get through to them?
    (7) Ah, they do like celebrity magazines and gossip, and they love Wills and Kate
    (8) So we'll get Wills to dogwhistle for Remain. Simples!

    It's so transparent it isn't even there.
    The point of the activate-the-queen strategy is surely to appeal to core Conservative voters i.e. older southern and wealthy, not apathetic C2DE who won't vote!
    As TSE says, she is coming..

    Right, must hit the sack. Night all.
    I suppose the master strategy is to goad one of the more passionate Leavers into insulting The Queen. That will not go down well.

    You can imagine Godfrey Bloom saying something outrageous.
  • EPG said:

    MP_SE said:

    runnymede said:

    'This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.'

    The word 'desperate' is featuring more and more in describing the Remain side's antics. This incident really does show how contemptible they are, dragging the royals in.

    But what does the man on the Clapham omnibus think of Will's position on our membership of the EU? What appears to the politically engaged as desperate behaviour may not even register with most voters. I truly hope they see through Project Fear.
    The thinking is that:

    (1) Shit, this is serious; we might lose this
    (2) The media are being so unfair to us
    (3) Clearly, it's mainly the ignorant plebs that want to vote Leave
    (4) We know they're dumb C2s/Ds and Es
    (5) But they aren't engaged by news, and normal politics and politicians
    (6) So, how can we get through to them?
    (7) Ah, they do like celebrity magazines and gossip, and they love Wills and Kate
    (8) So we'll get Wills to dogwhistle for Remain. Simples!

    It's so transparent it isn't even there.
    The point of the activate-the-queen strategy is surely to appeal to core Conservative voters i.e. older southern and wealthy, not apathetic C2DE who won't vote!
    As TSE says, she is coming..

    Right, must hit the sack. Night all.
    I suppose the master strategy is to goad one of the more passionate Leavers into insulting The Queen. That will not go down well.

    You can imagine Godfrey Bloom saying something outrageous.
    "The Queen doesn't clean behind the fridge"????
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Don't you mean Mountbatten?

    None of that Europhile cake dictatorship here!
    It was the first visually distinctive cake I could think of. A fine place to start cake identification: start with the obvious, then work up thru many delicious sponges, thence to fairy cakes, with advanced courses and more challenging supplements, and a brief divertissement to the Jaffa Cake conundrum.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    I am ridiculously French (11/13). So shall down tools shortly, block a few roads then a small riot with the CRS. The simple pleasures in life!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,820
    Cyclefree said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    The Sovereign should stay politically neutral. At least in the IndyRef that was about the possible break-up of her kingdom.

    HMQ has no role in relation to the EU.

    Bloody silly of the Royals to let themselves be used in this way. Cameron has said he is going. Saving his face is not what this referendum is about nor what the Royal Family exists for.

    And he's panicking unnecessarily - if indeed he is panicking. Remain will probably comfortably win without all this hysteria about jungle camps and the like.
    And if Cameron loses, why does it matter? He's a rich man, and all the jobs he'll pick up after having been PM will make him richer.
  • Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?
  • Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    I am ridiculously French (11/13). So shall down tools shortly, block a few roads then a small riot with the CRS. The simple pleasures in life!
    So the typical NHS medic is French? *Innocent Face*
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: Angel cake
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html


    Pretty French too. 8/13.
    10/13. My patrilineal ancestors came over with the Conquerer, judging by my surname.

    I also - coincidentally - have an aunt & cousin who are Parisiens.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,523
    So today we learnt that Jeb Bush is actually Megatron.
  • Chris_A said:

    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?

    Isn't it eight justices plus one Chief Justice so nine is the minimum needed
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,655

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    I am ridiculously French (11/13). So shall down tools shortly, block a few roads then a small riot with the CRS. The simple pleasures in life!
    Me too! I shall rip up the paving stones from the roads you're blocking......
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    Indeed which reminds me of this....
    "The dark chocolate and ganache cupcakes sold by a bakery along the French Riviera may taste sweet, but an ongoing controversy over the treats is exposing the sour history of race relations in the Gallic nation."

    Isn't that Rogers neck of the woods by the way?

    http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/04/17/racist-cake-france
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Just a test
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Chris_A said:

    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?

    The Constitution in the USA is treated with a reverence similar to holy text handed down from above, and that includes its deliberate checks and balances between the 3 arms of government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Messing with the system and precedent would be near blasphemous.
  • Pulpstar said:

    So today we learnt that Jeb Bush is actually Megatron.

    He's Galvatron to W's Megatron
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237

    Chris_A said:

    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?

    Isn't it eight justices plus one Chief Justice so nine is the minimum needed
    No, the constitution makes no reference to the number of them.

    The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    The number is apparently set by statute.


  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Chris_A said:

    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?

    Isn't it eight justices plus one Chief Justice so nine is the minimum needed
    Yep, they could amend it, or the Senate just keep blocking any nominee to keep it at eight.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Bad man. Jaffa Cakes are legally cakes
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,693
    Moses_ said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra

    Danish pastry, of course.
  • Chris_A said:

    Chris_A said:

    Hands up. Which PBers are the ones being discussed on the front page of tomorrow's The Times

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/699722557373739008

    Not aware of any drugs licensed for compulsive gambling. Those which should work are relatively cheap and nowhere near £10k pa.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1857322/
    The drug in the article is called 'naltrexone'
    Hmm. Naltrexone licensed in UK for alcohol and opioid addiction. And they're only £22 + VAT a month.
    I heard an interesting podcast about Naltrexone (and related things) only the other day:

    http://www.radiolab.org/story/addiction/

    They didn't give the impression that it was a mainstream treatment. It's a US podcast tho, maybe the UK is ahead of the game?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Surely this is an issue of taxation? Biscuits carry VAT but cakes do not.

    The risen nature of the base makes them a cake, biscuits do not rise.
  • dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    edited February 2016
    Moses_ said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    Indeed which reminds me of this....
    "The dark chocolate and ganache cupcakes sold by a bakery along the French Riviera may taste sweet, but an ongoing controversy over the treats is exposing the sour history of race relations in the Gallic nation."

    Isn't that Rogers neck of the woods by the way?

    http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/04/17/racist-cake-france
    what is it with cakes and PC lawsuits? gay cakes, racist cakes...

    Have to say I find the Tunnocks tea cakes to be highly offensive (apparently synthesized exclusively from petrochemicals)

    maybe I can raise a lawsuit based on their non-biodegradability (probably)...
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Moses_ said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.

    Or Weinerbrod?

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    edited February 2016

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.
    Part 4: Swiss roll
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    viewcode said:

    No, not really. I appreciate her views are not to the taste of many on PB.com, but it is still a very large newspaper going after an individual who has not broken the law.
    It is to me pal,this woman proberly hates this countries past and how it looks in certain area's like where you find large area's of white people.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225726/Emma-Thompson-tells-Exeter-University-students-Nick-Griffin-feel-comfortable-here.html

    She loves talking up racism,but like some on the left,she opens her big fat gob and racism flows from a cake filled mouth.

  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Cyclefree said:

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html

    I am ridiculously French (11/13). So shall down tools shortly, block a few roads then a small riot with the CRS. The simple pleasures in life!
    Me too! I shall rip up the paving stones from the roads you're blocking......
    Also ridiculously French, so I'll strike until the paving stones are re-laid. And for good measure blockade the site with walls of burning gyres.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706

    viewcode said:

    No, not really. I appreciate her views are not to the taste of many on PB.com, but it is still a very large newspaper going after an individual who has not broken the law.
    It is to me pal,this woman proberly hates this countries past and how it looks in certain area's like where you find large area's of white people.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225726/Emma-Thompson-tells-Exeter-University-students-Nick-Griffin-feel-comfortable-here.html

    She loves talking up racism,but like some on the left,she opens her big fat gob and racism flows from a cake filled mouth.

    Neverthless.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Bad man. Jaffa Cakes are legally cakes
    For tax purposes only however.....

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/25/jaffa-cakes-are-not-cakes-10-reasons-why-the-jaffa-is-a-biscuit-5194703/
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Moses_ said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.

    Ha! Indeed

    Named after the Alexandra, Danish princess who married Edward Vll to become princess of Wales
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Bad man. Jaffa Cakes are legally cakes
    For tax purposes only however.....

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/25/jaffa-cakes-are-not-cakes-10-reasons-why-the-jaffa-is-a-biscuit-5194703/
    Tax purposes (as any fule kno) is the important thing.
  • Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Surely this is an issue of taxation? Biscuits carry VAT but cakes do not.

    The risen nature of the base makes them a cake, biscuits do not rise.
    I thought cakes go hard when they go off, whereas biscuits go soft?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Surely this is an issue of taxation? Biscuits carry VAT but cakes do not.

    The risen nature of the base makes them a cake, biscuits do not rise.
    I refer you to the unarguable truth provided by my morning metro link a few moments ago

    Biscuit!
  • Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Surely this is an issue of taxation? Biscuits carry VAT but cakes do not.

    The risen nature of the base makes them a cake, biscuits do not rise.
    IIRC the key argument was that biscuits go soft when they go stale, whereas cakes go hard.
  • LOL.

    I threw the Jaffa handgrenade in and then left the site for a while to watch a bit of telly. I can't tell you how gratifying it is to come back and see it exploded. :-)
  • Moses_ said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.
    Or Weinerbrod?



    Trentham Tart

    (I'm Mercian through and through)
  • Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    Jaffas are not cakes though it's a biscuit..

    * takes cover*
    Surely this is an issue of taxation? Biscuits carry VAT but cakes do not.

    The risen nature of the base makes them a cake, biscuits do not rise.
    I thought cakes go hard when they go off, whereas biscuits go soft?
    Snap!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Leon Brittan's widow receives apology from Met police chief

    Lady Brittan accepts Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe’s apology and submits 30 questions regarding sexual abuse allegations"


    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/16/leon-brittans-widow-receives-full-apology-from-met-police-chief
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.
    Part 4: Swiss roll
    Maintaining our flight on Controversy Shore...

    Part 5: Arctic Roll
  • viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    This is like a sweet, spongy version of Mornington Crescent :-)
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    LOL.

    I threw the Jaffa handgrenade in and then left the site for a while to watch a bit of telly. I can't tell you how gratifying it is to come back and see it exploded. :-)

    I think this is the draw of PB .

    Two separate conversations going on up thread , one on the constitution of the United States and appointments of the Chief Justice to the Supreme Court.

    The other on Jaffa cakes (biscuits)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,523

    Pulpstar said:

    So today we learnt that Jeb Bush is actually Megatron.

    He's Galvatron to W's Megatron
    Dubya looked well last night, must say.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    edited February 2016
    On topic, since when does 'performing your constitutional duty' count as 'upping the ante'?

    Its the 'make it up as they go along "constitutionalists" (sic) in the GOP who have been 'upping the ante'...

    Meanwhile:

    Imagine that Scotland had voted for Independence in the 2014 referendum. Do you think the country would be economically better or worse off now or would it make no real difference? (Net Better off) Voted in Referendum
    Yes: +39
    No: -77

    In May, Scotland will elect a new government for another five years. Would you support or oppose this government seeking another referendum during this 5 years? (Net Support)
    Yes: +62
    No: -72

    Do you think holding another referendum on Scottish independence would have a positive or negative impact on the following or would it have no impact? (net positive)
    Economy:
    Yes: +41
    No: -75

    Scottish Business
    Yes: +39
    No: -73

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/g3iiy275ch/ScotlandInUnion_160212_WebsiteV2.pdf

    It's a view......


  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I noticed how the supposedly Great BRITISH Bakeoff was pushing a Europhile agenda. Mary Berry had clearly been paid off by Cameron to make the most difficult challenge the Austrian speciality of Spanish Windtorte.

    http://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/spanish-windtorte-technical-challenge-recipe/

    (Dons tinfoil hat and turns in for the night)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    This is like a sweet, spongy version of Mornington Crescent :-)
    Husht. I'm trying to mention madeleines without mentioning Proust. It's a delicate thing...
  • viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    FPT @MP SE - the timing was no accident, neither was the choice of words, or the location, or the fact he delivered a speech in the Foreign Office at a very politically charged time with Philip Hammond.

    This was an absolutely intentional, and planned, intervention - with some plausible deniability designed in by deliberately omitting the words "EU" and "Europe".

    And it was a very, very stupid (and desperate) idea.

    This was merely the appetising hors d'oeuvre.

    Her Majesty will be wheeled out just like she was in the Indyref
    I think you're right.

    I don't know what you think, but I really don't agree with the monarchy being politicised like this.

    For the record, I didn't like it during the indyref either where I was on "her" side.
    If I were Her Majesty, I would have done a quid pro quo with Dave.

    She should have said 'Dave, I'll back remain if as part of your deal you get the frogs to honour the Treaty of Troyes, or I'm backing Brexit'

    But yes her Majesty should not be involved.

    What happens if one of her successors is more like her uncle and is in fact a Nazi loving racist and endorses the BNP?
    Captain Darling: I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

    Captain Blackadder: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!
    The cake EmmaT is eating on the sun front page is a Victoria Sponge.
    :lol:
    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...
    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Part 3: (to add a bit of controversy) Jaffa.
    No, you've got to ease people in to Jaffa Cake. Best to do Black Forest gateau/cake first, to get people used to the cake/not cake problem.
    This is like a sweet, spongy version of Mornington Crescent :-)
    Husht. I'm trying to mention madeleines without mentioning Proust. It's a delicate thing...
    "He will make an excellent Scone!"
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited February 2016
    Question -

    Did Emma Thompson join the Billy Bragg society ? The billy bragg socety,what's that you may ask.

    Where leftwing clowns talk a good pitch on racism and immigration but decide they love the whiteness where to live,moving from multicultural/racial london.

    Every other whitey should live with mass immigration except for them.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,706
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Moses_ said:

    viewcode said:



    We don't talk enough about cake identification. We should do a thread on it.

    Part 1: Battenburg...

    Part 2 : Gateau Alexandra
    Danish pastry, of course.
    Part 4: Swiss roll
    Maintaining our flight on Controversy Shore...

    Part 5: Arctic Roll
    Ah, got it...

    Part 6: Welsh cakes. As baked by Ann Romney in the 2012 Presidential

    I win PB.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,930
    Ginger Parkin....
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    edited February 2016
    @Tykejohnno


    'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225726/Emma-Thompson-tells-Exeter-University-students-Nick-Griffin-feel-comfortable-here.html

    She loves talking up racism,but like some on the left,she opens her big fat gob and racism flows from a cake filled mouth.'


    Send the idiot to graduation ceremonies in Lagos,Delhi & Singapore and tell us how many white faces she sees.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited February 2016

    Ginger Parkin....

    Biscuit... No?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited February 2016
    If recent polls are anything to go by, Labour may now be more popular in England than they are in either Wales or Scotland for the first time in their history. Interesting thought to ponder...
  • Mornington Croissant
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    john_zims said:

    @Tykejohnno


    'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225726/Emma-Thompson-tells-Exeter-University-students-Nick-Griffin-feel-comfortable-here.html

    She loves talking up racism,but like some on the left,she opens her big fat gob and racism flows from a cake filled mouth.'


    Send the idiot to graduation ceremonies in Lagos,Delhi & Singapore and tell us how many white faces she sees.

    I apologise for using the word 'whitey' on my next post up,should have used the word person - sorry.

    But reading the Thompson reverse racism,just made me bloody angry and the word came from that reading on her.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,930
    Moses_ said:

    Ginger Parkin....

    Biscuit... No?
    Are you nuts? It is indisputably cake!
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Might be of interest?

    Guido has a referendum list of MPs which is going to be updated regularly as to where they stand ( or fence sit)

    http://order-order.com/2016/02/16/introducing-guidos-mp-referendum-list/
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,475

    john_zims said:

    @Tykejohnno


    'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225726/Emma-Thompson-tells-Exeter-University-students-Nick-Griffin-feel-comfortable-here.html

    She loves talking up racism,but like some on the left,she opens her big fat gob and racism flows from a cake filled mouth.'


    Send the idiot to graduation ceremonies in Lagos,Delhi & Singapore and tell us how many white faces she sees.

    I apologise for using the word 'whitey' on my next post up,should have used the word person - sorry.

    But reading the Thompson reverse racism,just made me bloody angry and the word came from that reading on her.
    "She said that about 12 per cent of Exeter's student population comprised black and minority ethnic students.

    This compares to the Exeter area at 3.2 per cent and the UK as a whole at about 10 per cent."

    What exactly is the problem?
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Tykejohnno.

    'But reading the Thompson reverse racism,just made me bloody angry and the word came from that reading on her'


    Maybe she's practicing for a new role playing the village idiot or just desperate for attention ?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited February 2016

    Moses_ said:

    Ginger Parkin....

    Biscuit... No?
    Are you nuts? It is indisputably cake!
    Ok
    Thought you meant these

    http://britishfood.about.com/od/yorkshire-recipes/r/Yorkshire-Ginger-Parkin-Biscuits.htm

    Rather than ginger cake. *Moves quickly out of the kitchen (just checked again)
  • john_zims said:

    just desperate for attention ?

    Late Middle Aged Actress gets Sun Front Page

    I'm sure she's gutted.....

    Separately, I suspect this is being grossly overanalysed - it was a throw away response to a question when she was promoting her latest film in Berlin - hardly a carefully crafted policy position......
  • Mornington Croissant


    Wings over Bath Bun?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,523
    Moses_ said:

    Might be of interest?

    Guido has a referendum list of MPs which is going to be updated regularly as to where they stand ( or fence sit)

    http://order-order.com/2016/02/16/introducing-guidos-mp-referendum-list/

    I've never heard Kevin Foster say he'd prefer to be out of Europe. Or seen him write to that effect.

    2013: “The issue of whether Britain continues its membership of the European Union is one that will define not just political debate, but our economic future as well. Like many voters I was not even born when the last European Referendum took place in 1975 and anyone born after the 6th June 1957 could not vote in it. The last vote decided this issue for a generation and regardless of outcome one held now would do the same.”
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    I see the Labour run Welsh assembly are doing the same wonders for their schools as they are for the Welsh NHS

    " A Generation of school buildings have leaking roofs, poor windows and cold cramped classrooms, a head teacher has said, blaming the Welsh government"

    BBC Can't quite bring themselves to say Labour run of course , like they always say Tory run.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35581013
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The Times is surprised that the mortality rate is increasing. They don't seem to have noticed that the oldest Baby Boomers have just turned 70 and therefore it's exactly what you would expect.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article4691656.ece
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Pulpstar said:

    Moses_ said:

    Might be of interest?

    Guido has a referendum list of MPs which is going to be updated regularly as to where they stand ( or fence sit)

    http://order-order.com/2016/02/16/introducing-guidos-mp-referendum-list/

    I've never heard Kevin Foster say he'd prefer to be out of Europe. Or seen him write to that effect.

    2013: “The issue of whether Britain continues its membership of the European Union is one that will define not just political debate, but our economic future as well. Like many voters I was not even born when the last European Referendum took place in 1975 and anyone born after the 6th June 1957 could not vote in it. The last vote decided this issue for a generation and regardless of outcome one held now would do the same.”
    Handful of outers on the Labour benches including the Skinner which surprised me a bit.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Epic Fail:

    Jeb Bush's team forgot to renew his website domain. It now directs to Trump's:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2016/02/jeb-bush-forgot-renew-his-website-so-now-it-redirects-you-donald-trumps

    http://www.jebbush.com
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    AndyJS said:
    So Hilary doesn't have a monopoly on stupid when it comes to IT then? Really basic stuff they screw up, did they not see the hundreds of renewal emails that would have been sent before it expired?
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,149

    Eww. I've just done a quiz on How French are you, and turns out I'm pretty French. Merde

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-french-are-you-take-the-quiz-a6876971.html


    Pretty French too. 8/13.
    Thanks to the Auld Alliance I scored 10/13
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Did someone mention the eternal debate between cakes and biscuits?

    A few days ago I was tidying up in the kitchen. At the back of the cupboard are a few empty biscuit tins (the fancy sort which have selections, the sort of thing that people give to people for Christmas when they can't think of anything else). I noticed that one of the tins was heavier than it looked, and upon opening it I discovered that it still had a few biscuits in it. Most of them had nuts in (explaining why I had not eaten them) but there was one normal biscuit with chocolate on it. It felt and looked normal, with no sign of mould or damp, so I ate it. It felt and tasted perfectly normal, without being excessively hard or soft.

    I reckon the tin (with biscuits still in it) must have been there for at least a decade.
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    Chris_A said:

    Interestingly I've just noticed that their is no constitutional limit on the number of Supreme Court justices. What's to stop the Republican Congress from amending the number of justices to 8 and hence prevent Obama from nominating anyone?

    It would require POTUS to sign it into law....
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh
  • JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    more than 20% of Koreans are called Kim. and when the caliphate inevitably takes over the world, they will all be called Mohamed Kim
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited February 2016
    Obama can nominate whoever he wants - the Senate committee will determine if he / she are qualified, and may or may not vote to forward to the whole Senate for an up or down vote. There is no constitutional timescale for this.

    In a press conference today from Rancho Mirage CA Obama said that the Senate should approve whoever he nominates if they are judged qualified, regardless of their political views.

    In 2006, Sen. Obama filibustered the nomination of Alito to the Supreme Court.

    He voted against Justice Roberts being confirmed as Chief Justice because he didn't like his political views.

    The Republican suggestion that the next POTUS should nominate the Scalia replacement has got the Democrats wailing and gnashing their teeth.

    In fact it's the Schumer Doctrine. In July 2007 Sen Schumer suggested that if a Supreme Court vacancy became available during the last 18 months of the Bush administration it should be left to the next administration.

    There's enough hypocrisy on both sides.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,204
    AndyJS said:

    If recent polls are anything to go by, Labour may now be more popular in England than they are in either Wales or Scotland for the first time in their history. Interesting thought to ponder...

    The 25% strategy is working wonders, eh?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    In 'Not the Nine o'clock News' the vaguely Spanish / Italian 'Nine o'clock news' the sign off was Boutros Boutros Ghali.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    In 'Not the Nine o'clock News' the vaguely Spanish / Italian 'Nine o'clock news' the sign off was Boutros Boutros Ghali.
    Or was that the "Chanel 9" sketch on The Fast Show?

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited February 2016
    JohnLoony said:

    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    In 'Not the Nine o'clock News' the vaguely Spanish / Italian 'Nine o'clock news' the sign off was Boutros Boutros Ghali.
    Or was that the "Chanel 9" sketch on The Fast Show?

    Maybe it was - it's over 35 years ago. I can't gainsay you on that one.

    All I remember is that every temperature said by Paula in the weather forecast was Scorcho.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,204
    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    In 'Not the Nine o'clock News' the vaguely Spanish / Italian 'Nine o'clock news' the sign off was Boutros Boutros Ghali.
    Or was that the "Chanel 9" sketch on The Fast Show?

    Maybe it was - it's over 35 years ago. I can't gainsay you on that one.

    All I remember is that every temperature said by Paula in the weather forecast was Scorcho.
    Definitely Fast Show.

    Ah, the TV shows of my youth - not quite 35 years I don't think....
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited February 2016
    Tells you all you need to know about the EU

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12160450/EU-deal-David-Cameron-faces-assault-on-multiple-fronts-in-Brussels-all-nighter.html
    EU deal: David Cameron faces assault on multiple fronts in Brussels all-nighter
    European leaders hope to whittle away at David Cameron's deal, then contain the 'contagion' of reform, during gruelling talks expected to last until dawn

    The document shows that Belgium fears a “risk of contagion”, and complains that the UK has called only for Brussels to lose, rather than gain, powers under the principle of subsidiarity.
    Reform, fixing problems, improving processes etc... its a contagion that needs to be contained.
  • Moses_ said:

    I see the Labour run Welsh assembly are doing the same wonders for their schools as they are for the Welsh NHS

    " A Generation of school buildings have leaking roofs, poor windows and cold cramped classrooms, a head teacher has said, blaming the Welsh government"

    BBC Can't quite bring themselves to say Labour run of course , like they always say Tory run.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35581013

    The OECD report on the NHS in the four home countries does not support the pb Tory line that the Welsh NHS is a shambles.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,204
    Indigo said:

    Tells you all you need to know about the EU

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12160450/EU-deal-David-Cameron-faces-assault-on-multiple-fronts-in-Brussels-all-nighter.html

    EU deal: David Cameron faces assault on multiple fronts in Brussels all-nighter
    European leaders hope to whittle away at David Cameron's deal, then contain the 'contagion' of reform, during gruelling talks expected to last until dawn

    The document shows that Belgium fears a “risk of contagion”, and complains that the UK has called only for Brussels to lose, rather than gain, powers under the principle of subsidiarity.
    Reform, fixing problems, improving processes etc... its a contagion that needs to be contained.

    EU diversifying into writing the satire of their own image.....
  • Moses_ said:

    I see the Labour run Welsh assembly are doing the same wonders for their schools as they are for the Welsh NHS

    " A Generation of school buildings have leaking roofs, poor windows and cold cramped classrooms, a head teacher has said, blaming the Welsh government"

    BBC Can't quite bring themselves to say Labour run of course , like they always say Tory run.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35581013

    The OECD report on the NHS in the four home countries does not support the pb Tory line that the Welsh NHS is a shambles.
    Didn't the OECD exclude A&A from its report?
  • Moses_ said:

    I see the Labour run Welsh assembly are doing the same wonders for their schools as they are for the Welsh NHS

    " A Generation of school buildings have leaking roofs, poor windows and cold cramped classrooms, a head teacher has said, blaming the Welsh government"

    BBC Can't quite bring themselves to say Labour run of course , like they always say Tory run.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35581013

    The OECD report on the NHS in the four home countries does not support the pb Tory line that the Welsh NHS is a shambles.
    Didn't the OECD exclude A&A from its report?
    Buggered if I know -- I've just seen the press reports. The whole thing costs real money.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,523
    Mortimer said:

    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    For the last 24 years I have always thought that Boutros Boutros-Ghali was a slightly silly name, but in the Daily Telegraph obituary of the said BooBoo is another one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Roger_Booh-Booh

    In 'Not the Nine o'clock News' the vaguely Spanish / Italian 'Nine o'clock news' the sign off was Boutros Boutros Ghali.
    Or was that the "Chanel 9" sketch on The Fast Show?

    Maybe it was - it's over 35 years ago. I can't gainsay you on that one.

    All I remember is that every temperature said by Paula in the weather forecast was Scorcho.
    Definitely Fast Show.

    Ah, the TV shows of my youth - not quite 35 years I don't think....
    Certainly wasn't more than 35 years ago as I remember watching it live on the TV :D
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,971
    @Southam

    I'm hearing PSOE + C coalition very close the announcement in Spain.
  • It'll be a bit like the polls 12 months back.

    Strong lead for REMAIN (= Labour) round about Christmas/New Year

    Then, the LEAVE side (= Tories) eating into their lead during the spring.

    Then we will have all the useful idiots political pundits predicting it will be too close to call come Referendum Day (=Election Day)

    A shock exit poll leads to Eddie Izzard threatening to eat his stilettos (=Paddy Ashdown threatening to eat his hat )

    Followed by the realisation that LEAVE (=Tories) will win an overall majority!
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