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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,154
    CNN New Hampshire General Election

    Rubio 45 Clinton 44
    Kasich 43 Clinton 43
    Christie 42 Clinton 45
    Cruz 41 Clinton 47
    Trump 39 Clinton 48
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Danny565 said:

    Ugh, my loading up on Christie isn't looking too shrewd now.

    lol, I'm in that boat too
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Wanderer said:

    Danny565 said:

    Ugh, my loading up on Christie isn't looking too shrewd now.

    lol, I'm in that boat too
    I thought that him being the only "Establishment" candidate who had a bit of spunk and personality about him might mean he could win some Trump voters. No sign of it yet, though.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,154

    HYUFD said:

    CNN/WMUR New Hampshire

    Trump 34%
    Cruz 14%
    Rubio 10%
    Bush 10%
    Christie 6%
    Kasich 6%
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/new-hampshire-trump-cruz-rubio-kasich-218037

    Oh well, that was the Kasich boom, that was.
    Yes, looks to be Trump Cruz as elsewhere
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,154
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN/WMUR New Hampshire

    Trump 34%
    Cruz 14%
    Rubio 10%
    Bush 10%
    Christie 6%
    Kasich 6%
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/new-hampshire-trump-cruz-rubio-kasich-218037

    At least Rubio is 3rd in that poll for all his backers !
    Indeed but he really needs at least second
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,161
    MTimT said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    Sorry to interrupt, but economic events are taking place and oil is crashing at a rate that if it continues for another month the price of it will reach 0$.

    Happy to bet oil doesn't reach $0/barrel :lol:
    Whats the hard floor ?
    People said it was $30, now they are talking about $25. I'm not an oil trader, but I think $16 is as low as it can go before it basically costs more to pump it out of the ground and ship it on tankers than to just leave it in the ground.
    Presumably the sustainable floor is the marginal cost of extraction at the point at which supply meets demand.

    "Here is Rystad Energy’s list of production costs for the 20 largest oil-producing countries:

    Kuwait – $8.50 a barrel
    Saudi Arabia – $9.90
    Iraq – $10.70
    United Arab Emirates – $12.30
    Iran – $12.60
    Russia – $17.20
    Algeria – $20.40
    Venezuela – $23.50
    Libya – $23.80
    Kazakhstan – $27.80
    Mexico – $29.10
    China – $29.90
    Nigeria – $31.60
    Colombia – $35.30
    Angola – $35.40
    Norway – $36.10
    United States – $36.20
    Canada – $41.00
    Brazil – $48.80
    United Kingdom – $52.50

    (http://247wallst.com/energy-economy/2015/11/24/us-cost-to-produce-oil-is-36-a-barrel/#ixzz3xpgcojI6)

    From this, it's hard to see a sustainable floor much below $40. However, given the glut of oil in storage currently and the need to dump it, I don't see that there is a calculable floor in the short-term.
    There are two different things: all in cost, and lifting cost. If I am extracting oil above my lifting cost, I am still making cash flow, even if it will never earn a return on my investment. In the short-term, lifting and transport cost is all.

    Can I recommend you read my excellent piece on the oil industry: http://www.thstailwinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/gushing-oklahoma.pdf
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,755
    Danny565 said:

    Wanderer said:

    Danny565 said:

    Ugh, my loading up on Christie isn't looking too shrewd now.

    lol, I'm in that boat too
    I thought that him being the only "Establishment" candidate who had a bit of spunk and personality about him might mean he could win some Trump voters. No sign of it yet, though.
    Well I've kept him in the +ve column for that reason too. He's actually the most moderate (Centrist) of ALL the candidates (Dem or Republican)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,161
    HYUFD said:

    CNN New Hampshire General Election

    Rubio 45 Clinton 44
    Kasich 43 Clinton 43
    Christie 42 Clinton 45
    Cruz 41 Clinton 47
    Trump 39 Clinton 48

    My view is that Trump would outperform that poll, and Cruz underperform.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Danny565 said:

    Wanderer said:

    Danny565 said:

    Ugh, my loading up on Christie isn't looking too shrewd now.

    lol, I'm in that boat too
    I thought that him being the only "Establishment" candidate who had a bit of spunk and personality about him might mean he could win some Trump voters. No sign of it yet, though.
    In contrast to the Labour leadership contest, the Republicans do have some decent candidates as alternatives to the nutter. Not happening though is it?
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    rcs1000 said:

    MTimT said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    Sorry to interrupt, but economic events are taking place and oil is crashing at a rate that if it continues for another month the price of it will reach 0$.

    Happy to bet oil doesn't reach $0/barrel :lol:
    Whats the hard floor ?
    People said it was $30, now they are talking about $25. I'm not an oil trader, but I think $16 is as low as it can go before it basically costs more to pump it out of the ground and ship it on tankers than to just leave it in the ground.
    Presumably the sustainable floor is the marginal cost of extraction at the point at which supply meets demand.

    "Here is Rystad Energy’s list of production costs for the 20 largest oil-producing countries:

    Kuwait – $8.50 a barrel
    Saudi Arabia – $9.90
    Iraq – $10.70
    United Arab Emirates – $12.30
    Iran – $12.60
    Russia – $17.20
    Algeria – $20.40
    Venezuela – $23.50
    Libya – $23.80
    Kazakhstan – $27.80
    Mexico – $29.10
    China – $29.90
    Nigeria – $31.60
    Colombia – $35.30
    Angola – $35.40
    Norway – $36.10
    United States – $36.20
    Canada – $41.00
    Brazil – $48.80
    United Kingdom – $52.50

    (http://247wallst.com/energy-economy/2015/11/24/us-cost-to-produce-oil-is-36-a-barrel/#ixzz3xpgcojI6)

    From this, it's hard to see a sustainable floor much below $40. However, given the glut of oil in storage currently and the need to dump it, I don't see that there is a calculable floor in the short-term.
    There are two different things: all in cost, and lifting cost. If I am extracting oil above my lifting cost, I am still making cash flow, even if it will never earn a return on my investment. In the short-term, lifting and transport cost is all.

    Can I recommend you read my excellent piece on the oil industry: http://www.thstailwinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/gushing-oklahoma.pdf
    Thanks.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,755
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN/WMUR New Hampshire

    Trump 34%
    Cruz 14%
    Rubio 10%
    Bush 10%
    Christie 6%
    Kasich 6%
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/new-hampshire-trump-cruz-rubio-kasich-218037

    Oh well, that was the Kasich boom, that was.
    Yes, looks to be Trump Cruz as elsewhere
    Kasich could still be up in some other poll. And hey, he's only 4% behind Rubio. Who is apparently a 5-2 shot for the nomination :p
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,234
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Ffsake could our judges get any more wet behind the ears ?
    Yes: it is notable it was *our* judges that made this monumentally stupid decision.
    Well, a decision based on European laws, right? ;)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,154
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN New Hampshire General Election

    Rubio 45 Clinton 44
    Kasich 43 Clinton 43
    Christie 42 Clinton 45
    Cruz 41 Clinton 47
    Trump 39 Clinton 48

    My view is that Trump would outperform that poll, and Cruz underperform.
    Maybe but I can't see either beating Hillary in NH
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,154
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN/WMUR New Hampshire

    Trump 34%
    Cruz 14%
    Rubio 10%
    Bush 10%
    Christie 6%
    Kasich 6%
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/new-hampshire-trump-cruz-rubio-kasich-218037

    Oh well, that was the Kasich boom, that was.
    Yes, looks to be Trump Cruz as elsewhere
    Kasich could still be up in some other poll. And hey, he's only 4% behind Rubio. Who is apparently a 5-2 shot for the nomination :p
    Yes, well still some wishful thinking about, goodnight
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,548
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Ffsake could our judges get any more wet behind the ears ?
    Yes: it is notable it was *our* judges that made this monumentally stupid decision.
    Well, a decision based on European laws, right? ;)
    Not proper judges and based on a fantastically generous interpretation of "right to a family life", which seems to have been interpreted to mean right to a family life in the country of my choice wherever in the world I have a family member living.

    These are not human rights. These are demands. And it is long past the time to resist them, by opting out of the relevant Conventions, if necessary - on a temporary basis - until we can get some sense into both our immigration/asylum laws and deflate the absurd inflation of human rights.

    Those in Calais are in France - one of the great civilised nations of this world - and are not in any sense prohibited from having a family life, nor are they prohibited from having a family life in many other European and non-European countries. Nothing is stopping them doing so. What they have is a demand to come and live in one particular country because they have a relative there.

    Well many of us have relatives all over the world. But it would be an utter absurdity to claim that because we are not allowed to immigrate to those countries to be with our relatives we are somehow denied the right to a family life.

  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    TSE "cold turkey" alert ...possibility of seven months of multiple AV threads?

    Disney Delays Release Of Next Star Wars Movie

    Episode VIII will now hit cinemas seven months later than planned, while it is rumoured the director is rewriting the script

    http://news.sky.com/story/1626703/disney-delays-release-of-next-star-wars-movie
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Cyclefree said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Ffsake could our judges get any more wet behind the ears ?
    Yes: it is notable it was *our* judges that made this monumentally stupid decision.
    Well, a decision based on European laws, right? ;)
    Not proper judges and based on a fantastically generous interpretation of "right to a family life", which seems to have been interpreted to mean right to a family life in the country of my choice wherever in the world I have a family member living.

    These are not human rights. These are demands. And it is long past the time to resist them, by opting out of the relevant Conventions, if necessary - on a temporary basis - until we can get some sense into both our immigration/asylum laws and deflate the absurd inflation of human rights.

    Those in Calais are in France - one of the great civilised nations of this world - and are not in any sense prohibited from having a family life, nor are they prohibited from having a family life in many other European and non-European countries. Nothing is stopping them doing so. What they have is a demand to come and live in one particular country because they have a relative there.

    Well many of us have relatives all over the world. But it would be an utter absurdity to claim that because we are not allowed to immigrate to those countries to be with our relatives we are somehow denied the right to a family life.

    Great post, thanks.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Two different perspectives (but both from the left) on Neale Coleman:

    Neale Coleman, Labour's head of policy and rebuttal, has quit the Labour leader's office, and Jeremy Corbyn's chief of staff, Simon Fletcher, is believed to be at risk of losing his job.


    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/01/neale-coleman-walks-out-team-corbyn-and-simon-fletcher-could-be-next

    A senior member of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership team is involved in discussions about moving to a new role, prompting claims of divisions within the Labour leader’s office.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/21/jeremy-corbyns-head-of-policy-and-rebuttal-switches-to-new-role

    I wonder why the Guardian's take is more positive? [Innocent Face]
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Human rights court ruling could force UK to admit 90,000 refugees

    Landmark judgment threatens chaos in British asylum system as court decides that four Syrian migrants should be brought to the UK from 'The Jungle' because of their right to family life"


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    George Eaton on SLAB prospects:

    “The scary thing” for Labour, Bain says, is that it took the Canadian Liberals 35 years to regain a federal majority in Quebec. “When politics becomes aligned across a constitutional question, that’s how long the emotional bridge takes to cross.” For now, like the emblematic Forth Road Bridge in December, it is closed.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/01/scotlands-new-era-nothing-can-dent-snp
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited 2016 21
    Interesting piece suggested by David Goodhart on Twitter:

    "London is a new, migrant, city – where nearly 40 percent of the population is born abroad and less than 45 percent is white British. London is not the city of Orwell, a foreign country to that of Dickens. This is a city of basement mosques, builders’ dreams, and billionaires. I was determined not just to write up this transformation as a series of statistics, and policy debates. I wanted to see and to feel it, so I went to live in a Romanian doss house in Barking. This, was a fairly typical place: a tiny council flat, crammed to the max. We not only shared rooms, we shared beds. My life as a Romanian builder was in no ways exceptional. Ian Gordon of the LSE has calculated that 40 per cent of immigrants from poor countries have been accommodated through an increase in persons per room in the past 15 years."

    http://www.integrationhub.net/segregated-in-the-suburbs/
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    MTimT said:

    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

    Fascinating!

    I wonder how UK Party support would break down in answering the following:

    my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited 2016 21
    These were the shares of the vote at the 2012 local elections for the 35 metropolitan councils being contested this year. (Labour won the most votes in all of them apart from Solihull):

    Lab 51.1%
    Con 21.1%
    LD 12.3%
    Green 4.4%
    UKIP 4.0%
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,251
    Jimmy Savile report: BBC culture 'to be criticised'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35368103
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    This is what happens if you dare suggest considering NOT giving BOTH your votes to the SNP:

    @bellacaledonia Drowning under the sea of negativity against Bella. Going to take some time off social media to consider best options.

    There is but one true faith......
  • CDMCDM Posts: 16
    Panelbase poll

    Remain 48%
    Leave 52%

    Likely voters excluding don't knows.

    Also lots of questions about another Independence vote: http://www.panelbase.com/media/polls/CombinedGBtablesforpublicationv2180116.pdf
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    @jamieross7: I see Labour spent nearly £600 on "chicken suits" during the general election campaign.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited 2016 21
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Ffsake could our judges get any more wet behind the ears ?
    Yes: it is notable it was *our* judges that made this monumentally stupid decision.
    No: he was NOT a judge.

    Not in the sense that you are I understand it, with years of legal experience and judgement.

    He was an "Immigration and Asylum Tribunal judge". Until about 2005 they were called "tribunal chairs" and are usually right on members of the hang-wringing tendency with no legal background.


    from wiki

    The creation of the AIT

    The Asylum and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004 abolished the two tier structure and created a single tier tribunal. All former adjudicators and members of the IAA became members of the new AIT. At this point, the Home Office Adjudicators became known as Immigration Judges, although many of these are not officially qualified as judges, the former 'regional adjudicators became Senior Immigration Judges, who are mostly involved in reconsideration applications for previously dismissed appeals.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    This mornings Metro indicates that unemployment is at a 10 year low. We fight back against the wasted Labour years. The jobless total fell by 99,000in the three months to November to 1.6 million. A record 31.3 million people a rate of 74% are now in work an increase of 500,000 in the last 12 months alone. Almost 23 million are in a full time job 436,000 more than a year ago and 8.4 million are working part time up by 152,000 average earnings increased by around 2% in year to November 2015.
    Metro Page 2

    UK unemployment rate falls to lowest level since 2006
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7277e44a-bf5e-11e5-846f-79b0e3d20eaf.html

    UK unemployment hits 10-year low as economy rebounds
    Economists say Britain has become a "jobs-creating machine" with employment at an all-time high
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12109714/UK-unemployment-hits-10-year-low-as-economy-rebounds.html

    Of course the normal culprits don't like it and always find a way to poor cold water on good news.

    UK jobless rate at 10-year low but wage growth slows
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35359689

    UK unemployment falls but wage growth weakens
    Jobless rate of 5.1% is lowest since 2006 but slowdown in pay growth likely to further delay any interest rate rise amid signs the Uk economy is cooling fast
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/20/uk-unemployment-falls-wage-growth-weakens
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    MTimT said:

    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

    Fascinating!

    I wonder how UK Party support would break down in answering the following:

    my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
    If my kid is not respectful, independent, obedient, self-reliant, well-behaved, considerate, well-mannered and curious then I've failed as a parent.

    There can be no compromises on the next generation.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,451
    AndyJS said:

    Cyclefree said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Ffsake could our judges get any more wet behind the ears ?
    Yes: it is notable it was *our* judges that made this monumentally stupid decision.
    Well, a decision based on European laws, right? ;)
    Not proper judges and based on a fantastically generous interpretation of "right to a family life", which seems to have been interpreted to mean right to a family life in the country of my choice wherever in the world I have a family member living.

    These are not human rights. These are demands. And it is long past the time to resist them, by opting out of the relevant Conventions, if necessary - on a temporary basis - until we can get some sense into both our immigration/asylum laws and deflate the absurd inflation of human rights.

    Those in Calais are in France - one of the great civilised nations of this world - and are not in any sense prohibited from having a family life, nor are they prohibited from having a family life in many other European and non-European countries. Nothing is stopping them doing so. What they have is a demand to come and live in one particular country because they have a relative there.

    Well many of us have relatives all over the world. But it would be an utter absurdity to claim that because we are not allowed to immigrate to those countries to be with our relatives we are somehow denied the right to a family life.

    Great post, thanks.
    It's an excellent post.

    One thing yet to become clear in the referendum campaign is whether there'll be any announcement on Michael Gove's Human Rights reform.

    I hope, for all of our sakes, he is able to do something about this excessive judicial activism.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Poland gets troops after backing migrant curbs http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4669633.ece
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Poland gets troops after backing migrant curbs http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4669633.ece

    In some ways I think it's a bit sad what's happening to Europe compared to the hopes that a lot of people had in the 1980s and 1990s.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Why can't they have a family life in France?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ChriswMP: The hopeless opinion pollsters cost me my seat and Derby North now has a Tory MP rather a Labour MP https://t.co/IIAsaU9h4V
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    edited 2016 21

    Calais migrants given green light to use European human rights laws to come to Britain

    In a landmark ruling that could lead to chaos in Britain's asylum system, a court decided that four Syrian migrants should immediately be brought to the UK from “The Jungle” camp in Calais because of their right to a family life

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12111494/Syrian-migrants-in-Calais-win-green-light-to-come-to-Britain.html

    Why can't they have a family life in France?
    Cameron is very lucky sometimes. Today would be a perfect day to take out of the bottom draw his plan to replace the HRA with a second Bill of Rights.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Me too. Who'd ever imagine all the problems that have arrived here since 2000 or so
    AndyJS said:

    Poland gets troops after backing migrant curbs http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4669633.ece

    In some ways I think it's a bit sad what's happening to Europe compared to the hopes that a lot of people had in the 1980s and 1990s.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    The response to his stupid tweet are hilarious.

    Keri Price
    Absolutely nobody who wanted labour to win went and voted Tory because the polls said labour will win. N o b o d y. https://t.co/v69RItiAvI
    Scott_P said:

    @ChriswMP: The hopeless opinion pollsters cost me my seat and Derby North now has a Tory MP rather a Labour MP https://t.co/IIAsaU9h4V

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,354
    According to the Telegraph this decision was made by Mr Justice McCloskey, the president of the immigration tribunal, and Judge Mark Ockelton, the vice-president. It will be appealed but it has probably attracted more interest because the people making the decision are pretty senior.

    Charles is right that some of the "judges" dealing with matters at first instance in the Immigration Tribunals are fairly wet behind the ears and inexperienced but that cannot be said of those responsible for this decision. Doesn't mean they are right of course.

    Apparently the people given permission to come to relatives already in the UK have mental health problems, apparently caused by either their experiences in Syria or whilst being refugees. They are living in appalling conditions and getting no help with their difficulties from the French authorities.

    The last point seems key to me. The complete failure of the French authorities to provide adequate care for those on its territory really cannot be a basis for us allowing them to come here.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Absurd hyperbole of the day, so far.
    "RMT will stand alongside our colleagues in health, education and the fire service to fight this outrageous attack on our basic human rights.

    "It is no surprise that the Tories are resorting to the policies of General Franco to try and tighten the noose of the anti-union laws around the necks of those workers in the front line of the fight against austerity. They will have a battle on their hands."
    http://news.sky.com/story/1626723/workers-face-stricter-rules-on-strike-action
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Speaking of Seumas

    This is too good. Seumas Milne spoke a Palestinian accent at Oxford. https://t.co/yLo6gBXsLv
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,451

    The response to his stupid tweet are hilarious.

    Keri Price
    Absolutely nobody who wanted labour to win went and voted Tory because the polls said labour will win. N o b o d y. https://t.co/v69RItiAvI

    Scott_P said:

    @ChriswMP: The hopeless opinion pollsters cost me my seat and Derby North now has a Tory MP rather a Labour MP https://t.co/IIAsaU9h4V

    He regrets not putting more effort in - fighting with everything he's got - because he thought it was safely in the bag, and he wants to scapegoat the pollsters for it.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    DavidL said:

    According to the Telegraph this decision was made by Mr Justice McCloskey,

    The Honourable Mr Justice (Bernard) McCloskey was appointed to the High Court of Justice of Northern Ireland in 2008.
    Prior to this he practised at the Bar and was appointed by the Attorney General to the posts of Junior Crown Counsel and Senior Crown Counsel for Northern Ireland. He took silk (NI) in 1999.
    He was appointed Chairman of the Northern Ireland Law Commission in 2009 and to the Upper Tribunal Immigration and Asylum Chamber in December 2010 as the Northern Ireland High Court Judge. He is Deputy Chairman of the Boundary Commission of Northern Ireland.
    He is judge in residence at Queens University Belfast, a member of the European Association of Administrative Law Judges and as member of the Commonwealth Magistrates’ and Judges’ Association. He has written extensively on aspects of public law, European Union law and human rights law.
    He is the first President of a Chamber of the Upper Tribunal to hold judicial office outside England and Wales.


    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130128112038/http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/judicial-appointments/judicial-160713-102
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,451
    Charles said:

    MTimT said:

    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

    Fascinating!

    I wonder how UK Party support would break down in answering the following:

    my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
    If my kid is not respectful, independent, obedient, self-reliant, well-behaved, considerate, well-mannered and curious then I've failed as a parent.

    There can be no compromises on the next generation.
    Charles said:

    MTimT said:

    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

    Fascinating!

    I wonder how UK Party support would break down in answering the following:

    my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
    If my kid is not respectful, independent, obedient, self-reliant, well-behaved, considerate, well-mannered and curious then I've failed as a parent.

    There can be no compromises on the next generation.
    What kid has ever been all of those?
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    The comments under the Guardian Lynton piece are most amusing.

    The response to his stupid tweet are hilarious.

    Keri Price
    Absolutely nobody who wanted labour to win went and voted Tory because the polls said labour will win. N o b o d y. https://t.co/v69RItiAvI

    Scott_P said:

    @ChriswMP: The hopeless opinion pollsters cost me my seat and Derby North now has a Tory MP rather a Labour MP https://t.co/IIAsaU9h4V

    He regrets not putting more effort in - fighting with everything he's got - because he thought it was safely in the bag, and he wants to scapegoat the pollsters for it.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    MTimT said:

    Interesting article analysing Trump's success in terms not of policies, but in terms of worldview.

    Worldview traditionally measures a person's location on a grid of authoritarian to egalitarian vs communitarian to individualist.

    Trump is mopping up the authoritarians. This might be bad news for both the GOP and the Dems - apparently authoritarians make up a majority of both the GOP and the US:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

    Fascinating!

    I wonder how UK Party support would break down in answering the following:

    my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
    If my kid is not respectful, independent, obedient, self-reliant, well-behaved, considerate, well-mannered and curious then I've failed as a parent.

    There can be no compromises on the next generation.

    What kid has ever been all of those?
    I got there by my 20s ;)
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