@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Ignorance is no excuse for petulence
So what is your excuse then?
you really are a dullard, I suspect you would be better employed with crayons and a colouring book.
So you have no excuse; you're just naturally petulant.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Nicola was talking about another one only today.
Dud you miss the memo?
Your obsession is quite scary, strange how unionists spend their lives talking about the SNP, nothing to offer for their parties donkeys. I never hear anything from you on the Tories , very odd or maybe not.
Funny how often you talk about the Tories I suppose?
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Nicola was talking about another one only today.
Dud you miss the memo?
Your obsession is quite scary, strange how unionists spend their lives talking about the SNP, nothing to offer for their parties donkeys. I never hear anything from you on the Tories , very odd or maybe not.
Funny how often you talk about the Tories I suppose?
Only because they are in power in England and use it to abuse Scotland. They are irrelevant as anything relating to Scotland yet rule our lives. As seen by teh cretins on here that support them , their NASTY label is well deserved.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
notme...maybe you should talk to some out of work Italians.. and there are a lot in this area..they think the EU work programmes are crap..because they have no work.. and therefore ,.no workers rights
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
You having no power, influence or say in the matter is otoh not debatable.
Keep debating it if it makes you happy - you, the SNP or the Scottish government still won't have the power to call another referendum.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Does that make Scotland a leper colony?
Politically we have many , they are called unionists.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Nicola was talking about another one only today.
Dud you miss the memo?
Your obsession is quite scary, strange how unionists spend their lives talking about the SNP, nothing to offer for their parties donkeys. I never hear anything from you on the Tories , very odd or maybe not.
Funny how often you talk about the Tories I suppose?
Only because they are in power in England and use it to abuse Scotland. They are irrelevant as anything relating to Scotland yet rule our lives. As seen by teh cretins on here that support them , their NASTY label is well deserved.
Well, it seems to me that the Tories form the government of the United Kingdom, which extends to Scotland because Scots want it to. However the amount that this actually affects the everyday lives of Scots is minimal.
I understand this is difficult for you to understand.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
You having no power, influence or say in the matter is otoh not debatable.
Keep debating it if it makes you happy - you, the SNP or the Scottish government still won't have the power to call another referendum.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
You having no power, influence or say in the matter is otoh not debatable.
It was Dave who permitted the 2014 "once in a generation" referendum in the 2012 Edinburgh Agreement.
It was courageous of him in the face of all the sage advice from those PB sharp minds telling him he shouldn't give in to the vile Nats.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
Like most of the non Scottish Brits of my acquaintance, my heart says "keep the union", my head says "get rid, get rid". If you really want independence you should be pushing for the rest of the UK to have a vote. I don't think PRers are typical of sentiment on this issue but Mr G, you just have a way about you.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
OK, I am going to put my reputation (as this site's longest serving local Tory activist with over 40 years in the poor bloody infantry) on the line and politely but firmly inform you all that the party will NOT suffer any serious internal divisions following the refendum, assuming:
1. Collective ministerial responsibility is suspended during the campaign (Dave will have taken leave of his senses were he to insist otherwise) and
2. The margin of victory for remain is comfortable, say a minimum of 10% or so.
There simply is no appetite among us rank and file for self-immolation and I am confident that applies to the vast majority of MPs as well.
This will mean that the EU will not be a defining issue for the leadership election in 2019/20.
I agree. The Labour party was riven in the 70's on membership of the Common Market, yet within six months after the referendum it was a non-issue.
The result then was 67 - 33. Are you saying the "Leave"'s will just accept it if the result was 51 - 49. Really ? What kind of Euro-sceptics are these people then ?
I'm firmly in the 'Leave' camp. But if my fellow citizens vote to remain, however narrow the margin, what am I supposed to do? Declare UDI in the Welsh marches?
I shall console myself by watching the EU shenanigans if we do vote to remain. As others have repeatedly pointed out, remain does not equate to the status quo. The EZ will integrate (it has to) and drag us along with it, like it or not.
We are outside the Eurozone now and will remain outside the Eurozone regardless of the result, the British people may just about accept EU membership they will certainly not accept the Euro. There are other nations outside the Euro but inside the EU too, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic for example so we are not alone
I'm not saying we'll be press-ganged into the Euro. I am saying that the needs of the EZ will be paramount, and their direction of travel is further integration. They'll be able to outvote the UK + assorted minnows. Our influence, already slight, will become slighter.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Ignorance is no excuse for petulence
So what is your excuse then?
you really are a dullard, I suspect you would be better employed with crayons and a colouring book.
Mr G you really should go easy on the nursery school analogies, it gives you away a bit.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
As may be. The Scottish Parliament (through its executive) has agreed that it doesn't have the power to call a referendum and that the last referendum reflects the indisputable will of the Scottish people.
Paddypower is giving 4/5 on a referendum before 2025. On the basis of your conviction that there won't be another one and your deep knowledge of Scottish & UK politics, you'll be offering considerably better than that?
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Ignorance is no excuse for petulence
So what is your excuse then?
you really are a dullard, I suspect you would be better employed with crayons and a colouring book.
Mr G you really should go easy on the nursery school analogies, it gives you away a bit.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
As may be. The Scottish Parliament (through its executive) has agreed that it doesn't have the power to call a referendum and that the last referendum reflects the indisputable will of the Scottish people.
Paddypower is giving 4/5 on a referendum before 2025. On the basis of your conviction that there won't be another one and your deep knowledge of Scottish & UK politics, you'll be offering considerably better than that?
I don't bet at odds on. I'm not going to let you use me in an arb. And I don't like people using "offers" of "bets" as an attempt to shortcut a discussion.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
OK, I am going to put my reputation (as this site's longest serving local Tory activist with over 40 years in the poor bloody infantry) on the line and politely but firmly inform you all that the party will NOT suffer any serious internal divisions following the refendum, assuming:
1. Collective ministerial responsibility is suspended during the campaign (Dave will have taken leave of his senses were he to insist otherwise) and
2. The margin of victory for remain is comfortable, say a minimum of 10% or so.
There simply is no appetite among us rank and file for self-immolation and I am confident that applies to the vast majority of MPs as well.
This will mean that the EU will not be a defining issue for the leadership election in 2019/20.
Seconded. On your assumptions, the idea that the party will engage in civil war after the referendum - which will have settled the matter for a generation - is barmy. Almost as silly is the idea that, after the referendum, the candidates' exact positioning on Europe will matter much if it's a vote to Remain.
If it's a vote to Leave, it would be very different, because in that case the most urgent task for the next PM will be negotiating the terms of our departure. That could only really be done by someone who is identified with the Leave campaign.
Absolute tosh ! I cannot for one nano second believe that Hannan types in the Tory party [ and many in here ] will accept a 51 - 49 result for REMAIN as binding forever. They will find some other cause [ like a new EU directive ] to clamour for another referendum. Only a better than 60 - 40 result will ensure that nothing the loonies do will make any impact.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
As may be. The Scottish Parliament (through its executive) has agreed that it doesn't have the power to call a referendum and that the last referendum reflects the indisputable will of the Scottish people.
Paddypower is giving 4/5 on a referendum before 2025. On the basis of your conviction that there won't be another one and your deep knowledge of Scottish & UK politics, you'll be offering considerably better than that?
I don't bet at odds on. I'm not going to let you use me in an arb. And I don't like people using "offers" of "bets" as an attempt to shortcut a discussion.
Off behind the sofa where you belong windbag , wobbling like a jelly. Really sure of your windbaggery for certain.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
Ah this age-old trite nonsense.
You do realise that in 20 years time today's 45 year olds will be 65 and vote accordingly.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
Well that's cheered me up no end, paying for yet another of Ecks screw ups.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
Ah this age-old trite nonsense.
You do realise that in 20 years time today's 45 year olds will be 65 and vote accordingly.
it will be over long before 20 years pass, and current 45 year olds will not have anywhere near the same amount of forelock tuggers
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
Ah this age-old trite nonsense.
You do realise that in 20 years time today's 45 year olds will be 65 and vote accordingly.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
Well that's cheered me up no end, paying for yet another of Ecks screw ups.
Sdaly I must depart the , scallopine di pollo con erbe is nearly ready and wine needs to be poured.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists, labour join the Tories as Lepers, the clock is ticking.
Absolutely the clock is ticking on the SNP. Politics follows a natural pendulum, just as one day the Tories will lose control of Westminster, one day the SNP won't control Holyrood - and when that day comes then Scotland will still be a part of the United Kingdom thanks to that 55%.
dream on
You think the SNP will be in governance forever?
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
Be a while yet for sure and by that time we will be independent
Why? You were going to become independent two years ago by your own reckoning weren't you?
Yes, but London managed to scare the greedy pensioners, it will not be same next time. Under 55's are massively for independence , only a matter of time.
Ah this age-old trite nonsense.
You do realise that in 20 years time today's 45 year olds will be 65 and vote accordingly.
it will be over long before 20 years pass, and current 45 year olds will not have anywhere near the same amount of forelock tuggers
You are right there will be more pensioners next time not less.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Nicola was talking about another one only today.
Dud you miss the memo?
Your obsession is quite scary, strange how unionists spend their lives talking about the SNP, nothing to offer for their parties donkeys. I never hear anything from you on the Tories , very odd or maybe not.
Funny how often you talk about the Tories I suppose?
Only because they are in power in England and use it to abuse Scotland. They are irrelevant as anything relating to Scotland yet rule our lives. As seen by teh cretins on here that support them , their NASTY label is well deserved.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
As may be. The Scottish Parliament (through its executive) has agreed that it doesn't have the power to call a referendum and that the last referendum reflects the indisputable will of the Scottish people.
Paddypower is giving 4/5 on a referendum before 2025. On the basis of your conviction that there won't be another one and your deep knowledge of Scottish & UK politics, you'll be offering considerably better than that?
I don't bet at odds on. I'm not going to let you use me in an arb. And I don't like people using "offers" of "bets" as an attempt to shortcut a discussion.
Migration has gone on for 150,000 years. You do know that you are a descendant of Africans, don't you ?
I know it maybe difficult for you to accept that.
And your point is?
I'd like to think the world has developed a bit in 150,000 years. There was, relatively, very little immigration into Europe before failed states were allowed to exist in Africa and the ME.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
Well that's cheered me up no end, paying for yet another of Ecks screw ups.
Sdaly I must depart the , scallopine di pollo con erbe is nearly ready and wine needs to be poured.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
Well that's cheered me up no end, paying for yet another of Ecks screw ups.
Sdaly I must depart the , scallopine di pollo con erbe is nearly ready and wine needs to be poured.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Oh FFS will they ever grow up ?
Alan, surprised you are down with the frothers and fruitcakes, both the author and Scott are not the full shilling
I mean teacakes malc ? It's hardly founding a nation is it
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
Alan , it is choc a block with bridges, these east coasters are just too used to getting it easy. We hav eto swim the crossings on the west coast. The teacakes are crap anyway, and old Tunnock is half daft by the sounds of it.
Funny how Eck always managed to get him self photoed with rich men of dubious sanity.
How is the Donald these days ?
He seems to be doing very well at present , and spending lots of cash in Scotland.
Mostly with lawyers.
He is employing plenty for sure
Which presumably means the FM is having to do the same. Real value for the taxpayer.
It is in the supreme court so you are paying for it
Well that's cheered me up no end, paying for yet another of Ecks screw ups.
Sdaly I must depart the , scallopine di pollo con erbe is nearly ready and wine needs to be poured.
Re Fallon: If you're tempted by this bet then the 250s on BF that he'll be next pm would seem to be quite attractive. I can't see past the more obvious contenders. I certainly wouldn't lay Fallon at anything like the betfair price though.
The choice of next Tory leader will be entirely shaped by the EU debate. I'd hazard that it's either Boris, or an unknown.
Sensing potential greatness in the then 13-year-old, a mystery benefactor agreed to fund private coaching through the winter to iron out flaws in his batting and bowling.
More than a decade later however, with the coaching now handsomely paid off, the identity of the benefactor last night (SUN) remained a mystery, with Stokes’ first coach in England vowing never to reveal the secret.
Jon Gibson, who still teaches youngsters at Cockermouth Cricket Club in Cumbria, said the identity was known only to him, his wife and the benefactor.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
You having no power, influence or say in the matter is otoh not debatable.
It was Dave who permitted the 2014 "once in a generation" referendum in the 2012 Edinburgh Agreement.
He did indeed. He met his opponents, gave them what they wanted, sat back and watched them lose, as the Libs and SNP can testify.
In Denmark the confection is known as a flødebolle (cream bun) and was formerly known as a negerbolle (negro bun) or negerkys (negro kiss). In the 1960s through 1980s the term negro was phased out by all major producers, as it is considered racist.
In Denmark the confection is known as a flødebolle (cream bun) and was formerly known as a negerbolle (negro bun) or negerkys (negro kiss). In the 1960s through 1980s the term negro was phased out by all major producers, as it is considered racist.
Not sure if Nigel4England is about but Chelsea are into 15/2 to finish top 4. I find this to be extraordinarily short given that Chelsea are 13 points and 10 places off fourth spot.
In Denmark the confection is known as a flødebolle (cream bun) and was formerly known as a negerbolle (negro bun) or negerkys (negro kiss). In the 1960s through 1980s the term negro was phased out by all major producers, as it is considered racist.
It is really, yes. Even in the USA which today has become a bastion of touchiness and Social Justice Warrioring the description Negro was on the official Census form until 2014.
Inevitable really.....mind you it is Mr Cable. It's probably the only way out for some in the PLP unless they form Labour centre.
"Lib Dems should work with Labour MPs opposed to Jeremy Corbyn to create 'effective opposition', says Vince Cable Former Liberal Dem Business Secretary claims the UK risked becoming a 'one-party state' with Mr Corbyn leading Labour"
Really. Surely no-one believes that the limited things Dave asked for have not already been agreed by everyone. Every minor disagreement is just show...
@BBCBreaking: Saudi Arabia says it is breaking off diplomatic ties with Iran, amid row over Saudi execution of Shia cleric https://t.co/wNkTR3uiiQ
It will get a little worse before it gets better though this move was expected, the Iranians dispatched a plane hours ago.
For one, there is every chance the Gulf Emirates will follow
For two, a bunch of Qataris, reportedly including members of the ruling family kidnapped in Southern Iraq (a Shi'ite hotbed) have been reported killed by their captors. If that is so, that is a major escalation, as they might have done better with them alive.
For three, this may not help any plans for peace in Syria.
For four, lets just see how downward this spiral can get.
"If the PLP don’t respond to this latest provocation by Jeremy Corbyn, then it will be further proof that Corbyn will remain Leader until the general election as the PLP are as impotent as a eunuch. Additionally the logic behind Corbyn wanting his top team to speak with one voice on foreign and defence issues is impeccable, and actually shows real political nous by Corbyn. Corbyn’s opponents inside and outwith the Labour Party should take note and not underestimate him"
I find the closing paragraph of TSE's summary quite unbelievable. Jeremy Corbyn is the elected leader of the Labour Party. If he sacks Benn and others, he will not be provoking anyone. The provocation has already happened. 11 Shadow Cabinet members voted against the majority wishes of the Shadow Cabinet, the PLP and the members of the Labour Party.
No point muddying the waters with "free vote" etc. That "free vote" was hoisted upon the Leader. It is now his turn to make the shadow cabinet in the Leader's image. A Leader who received 59% of the votes in the party.
Principled MPs can always squack from the back benches as much as they like. In fact, emulate someone called Jeremy Corbyn, a serial rebel.
@JournoStephen: I feel sorry for Sturgeon. The very day she insists her supporters aren't a brainwashed cult they launch a boycott of unpatriotic teacakes.
Loser posting crap from loser, those darned SNP, very popular and doing it deliberately , will the Tory and Labour donkeys ever get it
55 > 45.
Yes that was a real victory for the unionists
Indeed it was. Settled for a generation, and as the Nats have no power to call a second referendum they just have to find other ways to show that they are bad losers.
Which, to be fair, they're doing very well.
Strange how those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum keeps insisting that there won't be one.
Actually, it's not strange at all.
Those who will have no power, influence or say on whether there will be another referendum: the Scottish Parliament.
That's at the very least debatable. It wasn't Dave & the Yoons who wanted the 2014 referendum.
As may be. The Scottish Parliament (through its executive) has agreed that it doesn't have the power to call a referendum
"If the PLP don’t respond to this latest provocation by Jeremy Corbyn, then it will be further proof that Corbyn will remain Leader until the general election as the PLP are as impotent as a eunuch. Additionally the logic behind Corbyn wanting his top team to speak with one voice on foreign and defence issues is impeccable, and actually shows real political nous by Corbyn. Corbyn’s opponents inside and outwith the Labour Party should take note and not underestimate him"
I find the closing paragraph of TSE's summary quite unbelievable. Jeremy Corbyn is the elected leader of the Labour Party. If he sacks Benn and others, he will not be provoking anyone. The provocation has already happened. 11 Shadow Cabinet members voted against the majority wishes of the Shadow Cabinet, the PLP and the members of the Labour Party.
No point muddying the waters with "free vote" etc. That "free vote" was hoisted upon the Leader. It is now his turn to make the shadow cabinet in the Leader's image. A Leader who received 59% of the votes in the party.
Principled MPs can always squack from the back benches as much as they like. In fact, emulate someone called Jeremy Corbyn, a serial rebel.
I see "Principled MP" Simon Danczuck has "said he wanted to make sure Labour lost the seat he won for them.” according to the latest girlfriend.
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Fair enough.
Dream on with that. No party ever holds political office forever. You are being hubristic if that is what you believe - I would not be so hubristic as to suggest the Tories will be in office forever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnock's
Oh, wait...
I understand this is difficult for you to understand.
Can we have a really short new post, please?
Perhaps consisting of the 'once in a generation quote'
And the definition of generation.
They're ever so kind to Scotland - heaven knows why you're so bitter about it.
Someday you will understand...
The Nats should trying a bit of bridgebuilding for a change.
Start at the Firth of Forth.
http://www.forth-bridges.co.uk/queensferry-crossing.html
How is the Donald these days ?
ITV
Child becomes first #migrantcrisis casualty of 2016, Greek coastguard says https://t.co/QUx1utCWvK https://t.co/dojk6Tbhxc
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13181487.Full_indyref_survey_reveals_young_voters_voted_No_and_only_25_39_age_group_said_Yes/
You do realise that in 20 years time today's 45 year olds will be 65 and vote accordingly.
I know it maybe difficult for you to accept that.
past tense.
A 'discussion'?!
Pompous ball and bat.
I'd like to think the world has developed a bit in 150,000 years. There was, relatively, very little immigration into Europe before failed states were allowed to exist in Africa and the ME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFdt8sB8PzA
buon appetito
@DouglasCarswell This is the most extraordinary and distasteful thing for the head of Communications at Leave.Eu to tweet
@andywigmore Douglas Carswell???? He's pretty cross at the moment #justsaying
@PickardJE: The Lib Dems have put out a press release that begins: "Nobody takes the Tories seriously...."
The Lib Dems have put out a press release that begins: "Nobody takes the Tories seriously...."
https://twitter.com/scottishbking/status/683635618551848961
I think that it was quite a good response.
Re Fallon: If you're tempted by this bet then the 250s on BF that he'll be next pm would seem to be quite attractive. I can't see past the more obvious contenders. I certainly wouldn't lay Fallon at anything like the betfair price though.
The choice of next Tory leader will be entirely shaped by the EU debate. I'd hazard that it's either Boris, or an unknown.
More than a decade later however, with the coaching now handsomely paid off, the identity of the benefactor last night (SUN) remained a mystery, with Stokes’ first coach in England vowing never to reveal the secret.
Jon Gibson, who still teaches youngsters at Cockermouth Cricket Club in Cumbria, said the identity was known only to him, his wife and the benefactor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12079288/Mystery-benefactor-who-helped-rise-of-cricket-hero-Ben-Stokes.html
Bloody foreigners coming over here taking our places in the cricket team...
20% increase in blaming Labour
15% increase in photo-ops
33% increase in saying 'Westminster' & 'Austerity'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate-coated_marshmallow_treats
"Lib Dems should work with Labour MPs opposed to Jeremy Corbyn to create 'effective opposition', says Vince Cable
Former Liberal Dem Business Secretary claims the UK risked becoming a 'one-party state' with Mr Corbyn leading Labour"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-should-work-with-labour-mps-opposed-to-jeremy-corbyn-to-create-effective-opposition-says-a6794946.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382380/MP-pictured-embracing-young-researcher-says-photo-faked-henchman-suspended-Tatler-Tory.html
For one, there is every chance the Gulf Emirates will follow
For two, a bunch of Qataris, reportedly including members of the ruling family kidnapped in Southern Iraq (a Shi'ite hotbed) have been reported killed by their captors. If that is so, that is a major escalation, as they might have done better with them alive.
For three, this may not help any plans for peace in Syria.
For four, lets just see how downward this spiral can get.
Iran might rename street where Saudi embassy sits after executed cleric Nimr al-Nimr
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/iran-might-rename-street-where-saudi-embassy-sits-after-executed-cleric-nimr-alnimr--b1RL7czRoe?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100
"If the PLP don’t respond to this latest provocation by Jeremy Corbyn, then it will be further proof that Corbyn will remain Leader until the general election as the PLP are as impotent as a eunuch. Additionally the logic behind Corbyn wanting his top team to speak with one voice on foreign and defence issues is impeccable, and actually shows real political nous by Corbyn. Corbyn’s opponents inside and outwith the Labour Party should take note and not underestimate him"
I find the closing paragraph of TSE's summary quite unbelievable. Jeremy Corbyn is the elected leader of the Labour Party. If he sacks Benn and others, he will not be provoking anyone. The provocation has already happened. 11 Shadow Cabinet members voted against the majority wishes of the Shadow Cabinet, the PLP and the members of the Labour Party.
No point muddying the waters with "free vote" etc. That "free vote" was hoisted upon the Leader. It is now his turn to make the shadow cabinet in the Leader's image. A Leader who received 59% of the votes in the party.
Principled MPs can always squack from the back benches as much as they like. In fact, emulate someone called Jeremy Corbyn, a serial rebel.
They earn far more money working than claiming benefits.