I thought Watson was there for that kind of wheeling and dealing intrigue too. He doesn't seem up to to it though- not by a long mark. Len McCluskey is the biggest power broker Labour have- and that is just a really sad reflection of things.
And much like Mandelson and Cardinal Richelieu too. History is littered with Osbornes- scheming, highly intelligent, unattractive, addicted to power freaks. They make your toe curl- but as you say, there is something rather intriguing and enticing about them.
As a lefty, I am jealous. I wish Osborne was on our side. We need people like him, especially at this time...... especially at this time.
Seriously, Pulpstar- I really almost do feel sorry for Osborne, but then he begins to seep into my pores and grow into my veins like a gangrenous, cancerous growth such is his general air of horribleness.
Gordon Brown was skin crawlingly unlikeable but his heart was in a good place--Osborne has all that insipid lack of charisma oozing from him, but he strikes me as an unpleasant and genuinely nasty specimen to boot.
You know I could almost feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a piece of vile, hypocritical, unlikeable, putrid piece of Tory pondlife.
Come on Tyson, tell us what you REALLY THINK !
I find that Osborne has a Machiavellian air that I quite like.
I thought that was what Watson was for?
Watson's all right when he is wheeling and dealing on behalf of someone - like Brown. As it is now he is a nobody. Ask yourselves who is doing the power broking and arm twisting on behalf of Corbyn (if indeed Corbyn knows what is going on - if not him then MacDonnell). Watson is as much toast the rest of the PLP (and by inference since it all leads to civil war) the rest of the Labour Party.
Whilst canvassing in Brum in 1987 I met a charming Welshman from the Valleys, well into his 90's, who used to play the piano in the silent movies. He could have voted for some interesting characters - rock solid Labour!
Put down by Dimbleby to Mogg....'when you were at Eton then'
Better put down by Mogg....'Yes, with your son'
I might have been tempted to have also gone with "and unfortunately I wasn't in the Bullingdon Club, like yourself."
The Beeboids like their privileged backgrounds being pointed out about as much as the Guardianistas. Love to bang on about out of touch Cameron and Osborne, despite having equally rarefied backgrounds.
Put down by Dimbleby to Mogg....'when you were at Eton then'
Better put down by Mogg....'Yes, with your son'
I might have been tempted to have also gone with "and unfortunately I wasn't in the Bullingdon Club, like yourself."
The Beeboids like their privileged backgrounds being pointed out about as much as the Guardianistas. Love to bang on about out of touch Cameron and Osborne, despite having equally rarefied backgrounds.
The Dimbleby's , like most senior BBC people are Tories !
My mother's family are from Ryedale. I remember the 1986 by-election and people (now long dead of course) reminiscing about voting for Lloyd George.
I am pondering what the best "I met someone who voted for ..." anecdote is on this site? Lots of very experienced canvassers out there.
Gladstone was still leading the Liberals into the 1892 election. Plenty of Gladstone voters would still have been alive in the 1950s, and a few into the 1960s. There are a few folk on this site who would have been politically active then, and will have trudged a few doorsteps... I wonder.
In the 1973 bye-election in Berwick on Tweed there were several reports of houses with photos of Gladstone, Lloyd George, and William Beveridge over the mantelpiece.
That's a great story. It's too late at night for me to do the maths on this, but it seems unlikely that it was a Gladstone-voter... their parents might well have been so, though?
Whilst canvassing in Brum in 1987 I met a charming Welshman from the Valleys, well into his 90's, who used to play the piano in the silent movies. He could have voted for some interesting characters - rock solid Labour!
I wonder what could be quite more boring to sit through- a James Bond movie, a star wars, or any kids sic fi movie for that matter, a pirates of a Caribbean movie, a pixar movie, a catholic wedding, or sat at the airport waiting 2 hours for a flight. At least with the flight I could bring a book and read along quite happily.
Just came back from seeing Star Wars - um, I liked it
I was just about to post about it. I won't mention any spoilers but amongst maybe 200 in the theatre there were three of us who sat through the entire end credits. It's an annoying habit of mine (as far as others are concerned) and I was quite amazed by how long they went on. There must have been thousands of people. And then finally at the very end we come to some special thanks....... There were about seven of these. The first of which was George Osborne. Not just George Osborne, but George Osborne Chancellor of the Exchequer and First Secretary of State of the United Kingdom. Next up was Ed Vaizey, Minister of Culture. If I'd had a light sabre to hand I would have been tempted to throw it at the screen. There was, alas, no mention of any Lib Dems. The poor sods written out of the picture again.
Incidentally I remember an old fun poll that suggested that Lib Dems voters were the most keen on sci-fi. I can't imagine how much it must hurt. The force is clearly still not with them.
I saw through the end credits too - but I didn't catch the mentions of Osborne and Vaizey! I see it again at Leicester Square in a couple of weeks.
Must be a lot of boring people then given this Star Wars film is set to be the biggest earning movie of all time
Unlikely - adjusted for inflation, it has a long way to go to beat GWTW.....only the original Star Wars comes close - and thats still $200,000,000 shy of the record:
Last night Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, tore up the party’s support for curbs on migrant benefits by saying all those who work are entitled to claim tax credits.
At the moment Labour policy is to demand a two year ban on EU migrants receiving in-work benefits. But Mr Corbyn told the Politico website: “If someone is working, paying taxes like anyone else, he should have access to the same benefits as everyone else.”
Last night Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, tore up the party’s support for curbs on migrant benefits by saying all those who work are entitled to claim tax credits.
At the moment Labour policy is to demand a two year ban on EU migrants receiving in-work benefits. But Mr Corbyn told the Politico website: “If someone is working, paying taxes like anyone else, he should have access to the same benefits as everyone else.”
My mother's family are from Ryedale. I remember the 1986 by-election and people (now long dead of course) reminiscing about voting for Lloyd George.
I am pondering what the best "I met someone who voted for ..." anecdote is on this site? Lots of very experienced canvassers out there.
Gladstone was still leading the Liberals into the 1892 election. Plenty of Gladstone voters would still have been alive in the 1950s, and a few into the 1960s. There are a few folk on this site who would have been politically active then, and will have trudged a few doorsteps... I wonder.
In the 1973 bye-election in Berwick on Tweed there were several reports of houses with photos of Gladstone, Lloyd George, and William Beveridge over the mantelpiece.
That's a great story. It's too late at night for me to do the maths on this, but it seems unlikely that it was a Gladstone-voter... their parents might well have been so, though?
The voter might have known Sir Edward Grey was MP for the seat until ennobled late in World War 1!
Last night Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, tore up the party’s support for curbs on migrant benefits by saying all those who work are entitled to claim tax credits.
At the moment Labour policy is to demand a two year ban on EU migrants receiving in-work benefits. But Mr Corbyn told the Politico website: “If someone is working, paying taxes like anyone else, he should have access to the same benefits as everyone else.”
I wonder what could be quite more boring to sit through- a James Bond movie, a star wars, or any kids sic fi movie for that matter, a pirates of a Caribbean movie, a pixar movie, a catholic wedding, or sat at the airport waiting 2 hours for a flight. At least with the flight I could bring a book and read along quite happily.
Just came back from seeing Star Wars - um, I liked it
I was just about to post about it. I won't mention any spoilers but amongst maybe 200 in the theatre there were three of us who sat through the entire end credits. It's an annoying habit of mine (as far as others are concerned) and I was quite amazed by how long they went on. There must have been thousands of people. And then finally at the very end we come to some special thanks....... There were about seven of these. The first of which was George Osborne. Not just George Osborne, but George Osborne Chancellor of the Exchequer and First Secretary of State of the United Kingdom. Next up was Ed Vaizey, Minister of Culture. If I'd had a light sabre to hand I would have been tempted to throw it at the screen. There was, alas, no mention of any Lib Dems. The poor sods written out of the picture again.
Incidentally I remember an old fun poll that suggested that Lib Dems voters were the most keen on sci-fi. I can't imagine how much it must hurt. The force is clearly still not with them.
I saw through the end credits too - but I didn't catch the mentions of Osborne and Vaizey! I see it again at Leicester Square in a couple of weeks.
Must be a lot of boring people then given this Star Wars film is set to be the biggest earning movie of all time
Unlikely - adjusted for inflation, it has a long way to go to beat GWTW.....only the original Star Wars comes close - and thats still $200,000,000 shy of the record:
Next best 'Empire Strikes Back is under half GWTW total.
Of course films today are really just adverts for the ancillary toys/DVDs and other stuff where most of the money is made
Adjusting for inflation is not an exact science and regardless it will still almost certainly be the biggest grossing film to date in today's money. Some of the biggest films maybe, indy films and arthouse rather less so, not to mention the growth of films on the likes of netflix etc
HYUFD said: » show previous quotes 'If Osborne stands he will probably get it, Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power, against a Chuka Umunna, Dan Jarvis or even Andy Burnham he may have had problems at the election, against Corbyn and probably Hilary Benn he should win one term .'
It is not accurate to say that ' Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power'.. Since World War 2 there have been three examples of the Chancellor moving next door to No 10 - Macmillan - Major - and Brown. On three other occasions the PM was succeeded by his Foreign Secretary - Eden - Home - and Callaghan (also a former Chancellor). Macmillan and Major were not toxic at the time and went on to win an election. Brown had become toxic and lost. Osborne is probably at least as toxic as Brown.I also believe that Hilary Benn would prove a far more formidable opponent to him than Burnham.- and indeed more so than Howard proved to be against Blair in 2005
Callaghan, as you say, was a former Chancellor, so 4/7 of those who became PM from an incumbent party were Chancellors or former Chancellors so I believe my point holds. Remember too that 2020 is actually the equivalent of 2005, ie the third election for the incumbent government not the 4th like 2010 and even Brown would have beaten Michael Howard in 2005 (he only became toxic after the 2008 crash). Corbyn is basically a Labour IDS, Benn a Labour Howard, he might provide Labour with a modest recovery as Howard boosted the Tory total a little but I would expect Osborne to still lead the largest party
Your point does not stand re- Callaghan at all - he was a former Chancellor who had left that office more than 8 years before he succeeded Wilson as PM and, therefore, had no relevance at all to the leadership election which anointed him. I would also point out that both Macmillan and Major had only held the office of Chancellor for a very short period of time. They both only presented one Budget - Macmillan Introduced Premium Bonds whilst Major brought in TESSAS. Neither had been able to establish a track record in the role - unlike Brown and Osborne. Re- Benn I would expect him to do rather better than Howard who managed a 3% Lab to Con swing in 2005.
Nope, it stands 4/7 of those who became leader were former chancellors and going back further if you add in Neville Chamberlain who was also Chancellor when he became PM that is a clear majority. Macmillan and Major were both Chancellor which they used as the stepping stone to No 10, their record as chancellor is another subject entirely. I doubt Benn will do much better than Howard, he is still associated with the left of the Labour Party which means he will not win enough of the middle but his position on airstrikes means he does not enthuse the left base of Labour either
HYUFD said: » show previous quotes 'If Osborne stands he will probably get it, Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power, against a Chuka Umunna, Dan Jarvis or even Andy Burnham he may have had problems at the election, against Corbyn and probably Hilary Benn he should win one term .'
It is not accurate to say that ' Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power'.. Since World War 2 there have been three examples of the Chancellor moving next door to No 10 - Macmillan - Major - and Brown. On three other occasions the PM was succeeded by his Foreign Secretary - Eden - Home - and Callaghan (also a former Chancellor). Macmillan and Major were not toxic at the time and went on to win an election. Brown had become toxic and lost. Osborne is probably at least as toxic as Brown.I also believe that Hilary Benn would prove a far more formidable opponent to him than Burnham.- and indeed more so than Howard proved to be against Blair in 2005
Callaghan, as you say, was a former Chancellor, so 4/7 of those who became PM from an incumbent party were Chancellors or former Chancellors so I believe my point holds. Remember too that 2020 is actually the equivalent of 2005, ie the third election for the incumbent government not the 4th like 2010 and even Brown would have beaten Michael Howard in 2005 (he only became toxic after the 2008 crash). Corbyn is basically a Labour IDS, Benn a Labour Howard, he might provide Labour with a modest recovery as Howard boosted the Tory total a little but I would expect Osborne to still lead the largest party
Ah. But (shades of pre-May 7th) Tories as largest party is not the same thing as Tories in office.
With the backing of the DUP and UKIP it probably is and Benn would not do a deal with the SNP though Corbyn might he would not have the numbers
Daring the SNP to vote him and a minority Labour Government down would not be 'doing a deal'!
He would not get the chance as the largest party gets the chance to form a government first
I wonder what could be quite more boring to sit through- a James Bond movie, a star wars, or any kids sic fi movie for that matter, a pirates of a Caribbean movie, a pixar movie, a catholic wedding, or sat at the airport waiting 2 hours for a flight. At least with the flight I could bring a book and read along quite happily.
Just came back from seeing Star Wars - um, I liked it
I was just about to post about it. I won't mention any spoilers but amongst maybe 200 in the theatre there were three of us who sat through the entire end credits. It's an annoying habit of mine (as far as others are concerned) and I was quite amazed by how long they went on. There must have been thousands of people. And then finally at the very end we come to some special thanks....... There were about seven of these. The first of which was George Osborne. Not just George Osborne, but George Osborne Chancellor of the Exchequer and First Secretary of State of the United Kingdom. Next up was Ed Vaizey, Minister of Culture. If I'd had a light sabre to hand I would have been tempted to throw it at the screen. There was, alas, no mention of any Lib Dems. The poor sods written out of the picture again.
Incidentally I remember an old fun poll that suggested that Lib Dems voters were the most keen on sci-fi. I can't imagine how much it must hurt. The force is clearly still not with them.
I saw through the end credits too - but I didn't catch the mentions of Osborne and Vaizey! I see it again at Leicester Square in a couple of weeks.
Must be a lot of boring people then given this Star Wars film is set to be the biggest earning movie of all time
Unlikely - adjusted for inflation, it has a long way to go to beat GWTW.....only the original Star Wars comes close - and thats still $200,000,000 shy of the record:
Next best 'Empire Strikes Back is under half GWTW total.
Of course films today are really just adverts for the ancillary toys/DVDs and other stuff where most of the money is made
Adjusting for inflation is not an exact science
The simplest measure (in an illustration that won't translate well across the Atlantic) is 'bums on seats' (or number of tickets sold) - which is how Box Office Mojo works out its inflation adjusted figure - by which measure its unlikely Star Wars VII will beat GWTW....cinema going simply isn't as an important part of people's entertainment as it was 75 years ago.....
My mother's family are from Ryedale. I remember the 1986 by-election and people (now long dead of course) reminiscing about voting for Lloyd George.
I am pondering what the best "I met someone who voted for ..." anecdote is on this site? Lots of very experienced canvassers out there.
Gladstone was still leading the Liberals into the 1892 election. Plenty of Gladstone voters would still have been alive in the 1950s, and a few into the 1960s. There are a few folk on this site who would have been politically active then, and will have trudged a few doorsteps... I wonder.
In the 1973 bye-election in Berwick on Tweed there were several reports of houses with photos of Gladstone, Lloyd George, and William Beveridge over the mantelpiece.
That's a great story. It's too late at night for me to do the maths on this, but it seems unlikely that it was a Gladstone-voter... their parents might well have been so, though?
Their father only, of course!
Well off topic, but some years ago while doing some work on how the elderly handled their medicines I met a man who said that when he graduated from Imperial during WWII, with an excellent chemistry degree, he had been sent to work on the development of penicillin.
Of course films today are really just adverts for the ancillary toys/DVDs and other stuff where most of the money is made
Adjusting for inflation is not an exact science and regardless it will still almost certainly be the biggest grossing film to date in today's money. Some of the biggest films maybe, indy films and arthouse rather less so, not to mention the growth of films on the likes of netflix etc
The situation is complicated by the death of the DVD, the rise of China and Netflix. USA used to be the big thing: it used to be you doubled domestic (US/CAN) gross to get worldwide gross, and a worldwide rep could keep an actor going long past their useful domestic life (Stallone and Sharon Stone being famous examples). Then DVDs became a thing and you trebled domestic gross to estimate worldwide gross including DVD sales. Yay. But in these net days DVDs are too easily pirated and the market has collapsed (which is why there'll be no new "Dredd" film). But counterbalancing that is the enormous growth in China and other markets: crack China and the US and it's a goldmine. This is why Transformers 4 and Skyfall had segments set in China and they both grossed over 1billion USD worldwide.
So. Get a film. Cast it with US actors, spread the ethnicities about a bit, film bits in Iceland (Prometheus, Oblivion, Thor:TDW) set parts in London (UK's a good market: see FF6, Thor:TDW) and China, some nice action set pieces, release it, wait for the money to roll in
Disney paid 4billion to for the Star Wars franchise and to start making inroads on that SW:TFA has to gross 1.5billion worldwide. Not easy, but with projections at 2billion, they may make it with room to spare and initial reviews aren't denting that.
Disney paid 4billion to for the Star Wars franchise and to start making inroads on that SW:TFA has to gross 1.5billion worldwide. Not easy, but with projections at 2billion, they may make it with room to spare and initial reviews aren't denting that.
I guess they'll be making at least another 2 movies after this anyway?
(I'm really hoping for an animated Mickey mouse special with light-sabres. I may be in a minority of one, as with most things)
Disney paid 4billion to for the Star Wars franchise and to start making inroads on that SW:TFA has to gross 1.5billion worldwide. Not easy, but with projections at 2billion, they may make it with room to spare and initial reviews aren't denting that.
I guess they'll be making at least another 2 movies after this anyway?
(I'm really hoping for an animated Mickey mouse special with light-sabres. I may be in a minority of one, as with most things)
It's not just the movie - think of all the toys and legos etc that will be sold. Walmart has aisles full of them.
Your excitement before seeing the Remake seems to have drained away, somewhat.
Well, I felt it was a good film in terms of effects, action and acting, but essentially it was a remake of the very first Star Wars from 1977. Without giving away spoilers, the plot was almost identical. And I guess I did feel a bit conflicted when I left the cinema. Reading through the reviews on IMDB (which I must stress I only started reading AFTER I watched it), I find myself agreeing with more of the negative points than the positive ones.
I do hope Episode VIII will be better and more original, plot-wise.
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) is still my favourite film in the Franchise.
Callaghan, as you say, was a former Chancellor, so 4/7 of those who became PM from an incumbent party were Chancellors or former Chancellors so I believe my point holds. Remember too that 2020 is actually the equivalent of 2005, ie the third election for the incumbent government not the 4th like 2010 and even Brown would have beaten Michael Howard in 2005 (he only became toxic after the 2008 crash). Corbyn is basically a Labour IDS, Benn a Labour Howard, he might provide Labour with a modest recovery as Howard boosted the Tory total a little but I would expect Osborne to still lead the largest party
Your point does not stand re- Callaghan at all - he was a former Chancellor who had left that office more than 8 years before he succeeded Wilson as PM and, therefore, had no relevance at all to the leadership election which anointed him. I would also point out that both Macmillan and Major had only held the office of Chancellor for a very short period of time. They both only presented one Budget - Macmillan Introduced Premium Bonds whilst Major brought in TESSAS. Neither had been able to establish a track record in the role - unlike Brown and Osborne. Re- Benn I would expect him to do rather better than Howard who managed a 3% Lab to Con swing in 2005.
Nope, it stands 4/7 of those who became leader were former chancellors and going back further if you add in Neville Chamberlain who was also Chancellor when he became PM that is a clear majority. Macmillan and Major were both Chancellor which they used as the stepping stone to No 10, their record as chancellor is another subject entirely. I doubt Benn will do much better than Howard, he is still associated with the left of the Labour Party which means he will not win enough of the middle but his position on airstrikes means he does not enthuse the left base of Labour either
Callaghan did not become PM having just been Chancellor - which is what your original post implied. To find an example of a long serving Chancellor succeeding to the post of PM and then going on to win an election we have to go back to 1908 when Asquith took office - though even he had to be content with leading minority Governments following the 1910 elections. Neville Chamberlain never fought an election as PM whilst Baldwin was only Chancellor for 7 months and went on to lose his first election. Re-Benn. He is not particularly leftwing unlike is father. Obviously not a Blairite either so he has the potential to be a unifying figure.
HYUFD said: » show previous quotes 'If Osborne stands he will probably get it, Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power, against a Chuka Umunna, Dan Jarvis or even Andy Burnham he may have had problems at the election, against Corbyn and probably Hilary Benn he should win one term .'
It is not accurate to say that ' Chancellors normally succeed the PM in power'.. Since World War 2 there have been three examples of the Chancellor moving next door to No 10 - Macmillan - Major - and Brown. On three other occasions the PM was succeeded by his Foreign Secretary - Eden - Home - and Callaghan (also a former Chancellor). Macmillan and Major were not toxic at the time and went on to win an election. Brown had become toxic and lost. Osborne is probably at least as toxic as Brown.I also believe that Hilary Benn would prove a far more formidable opponent to him than Burnham.- and indeed more so than Howard proved to be against Blair in 2005
Callaghan, as you say, was a former Chancellor, so 4/7 of those who became PM from an incumbent party were Chancellors or former Chancellors so I believe my point holds. Remember too that 2020 is actually the equivalent of 2005, ie the third election for the incumbent government not the 4th like 2010 and even Brown would have beaten Michael Howard in 2005 (he only became toxic after the 2008 crash). Corbyn is basically a Labour IDS, Benn a Labour Howard, he might provide Labour with a modest recovery as Howard boosted the Tory total a little but I would expect Osborne to still lead the largest party
Ah. But (shades of pre-May 7th) Tories as largest party is not the same thing as Tories in office.
With the backing of the DUP and UKIP it probably is and Benn would not do a deal with the SNP though Corbyn might he would not have the numbers
Daring the SNP to vote him and a minority Labour Government down would not be 'doing a deal'!
He would not get the chance as the largest party gets the chance to form a government first
That is not correct. It is the incumbent PM who gets the first chance regardless of whether he heads the largest party. Brown could have remained in office for a few more weeks in 2010 and taken his dismissal from Parliament at the time of defeat on the Queen's Speech rather than resigning at the time of a coalition deal having been reached. If in 2020 Labour and the SNP - together with other parties - have the votes to defeat the Tories on a Queen's Speech, they will do so - without any deal having been reached between them. Their supporters would expect nothing less!
I wonder what could be quite more boring to sit through- a James Bond movie, a star wars, or any kids sic fi movie for that matter, a pirates of a Caribbean movie, a pixar movie, a catholic wedding, or sat at the airport waiting 2 hours for a flight. At least with the flight I could bring a book and read along quite happily.
Just came back from seeing Star Wars - um, I liked it
I was just about to post about it. I won't mention any spoilers but amongst maybe 200 in the theatre there were three of us who sat through the entire end credits. It's an annoying habit of mine (as far as others are concerned) and I was quite amazed by how long they went on. There must have been thousands of people. And then finally at the very end we come to some special thanks....... There were about seven of these. The first of which was George Osborne. Not just George Osborne, but George Osborne Chancellor of the Exchequer and First Secretary of State of the United Kingdom. Next up was Ed Vaizey, Minister of Culture. If I'd had a light sabre to hand I would have been tempted to throw it at the screen. There was, alas, no mention of any Lib Dems. The poor sods written out of the picture again.
Incidentally I remember an old fun poll that suggested that Lib Dems voters were the most keen on sci-fi. I can't imagine how much it must hurt. The force is clearly still not with them.
I saw through the end credits too - but I didn't catch the mentions of Osborne and Vaizey! I see it again at Leicester Square in a couple of weeks.
Must be a lot of boring people then given this Star Wars film is set to be the biggest earning movie of all time
Unlikely - adjusted for inflation, it has a long way to go to beat GWTW.....only the original Star Wars comes close - and thats still $200,000,000 shy of the record:
Next best 'Empire Strikes Back is under half GWTW total.
Of course films today are really just adverts for the ancillary toys/DVDs and other stuff where most of the money is made
Boo hoo Hoo - films in the olden times were so much better!!!
Plenty of movies today are not adverts for toys and ancillary stuff (I don't even understand why being an advert for the DVR would be bad, if the movie is good it is such a advert). Star Wars is one of those advertising ancillary stuff, but then very early on it always was. Superhero movies are too. But most are not.
Your excitement before seeing the Remake seems to have drained away, somewhat.
Well, I felt it was a good film in terms of effects, action and acting, but essentially it was a remake of the very first Star Wars from 1977. Without giving away spoilers, the plot was almost identical. And I guess I did feel a bit conflicted when I left the cinema. Reading through the reviews on IMDB (which I must stress I only started reading AFTER I watched it), I find myself agreeing with more of the negative points than the positive ones.
I do hope Episode VIII will be better and more original, plot-wise.
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) is still my favourite film in the Franchise.
Funnily enough, I left conflicted fir similar reasons as you, but am feeling more positive about it since. I give it a 7 out of 10. Good, not great. Certain elements like loo, tone and new cast are 9 out of 10
Re: Derwent: back in 1989 Mike Potter, a local (Bedale) farmer, was the Owenite candidate in the Richmond by-election that returned William Hague to parliament. Briefly the countryside went Potter-mad as local farmer put up posters for him in their fields. After a rousing rally in Northallerton when Owen made it clear that his party could be relied on the drop the bomb on Moscow (unlike the Liberal-Alliance lady, an unknown school teacher from Harrogate for whom I campaigned) he came a good second to young William. If she had not stood he might well have won, delaying the start of Hague political career until the general election in 2002.
So now he’s a (Michael Moorcroft) Liberal. Where they stand on bombing Moscow or anything else I do not know.
Michael John Potter (The Liberal Party Candidate) 283 Kerry Margaret Ennis (The Conservative Party Candidate) 278 Stephen Shaw (Independent) 124 Darren Michael Allanson (no description but the Liberal Democrat) 81 Tobias Nicholas Hugh Barran (Yorkshire First) 32
Steve Hawkins Nigel Farage on Douglas Carswell: "We have got one person going round the country giving the impression UKIP is split – that can’t go on."
11. The government confirmed plans to limit the power of the House of Lords.
The House of Lords would lose the power to block certain legislation under government plans announced on Take Out the Trash Day, commissioned by David Cameron after the upper house blocked government plans to cut tax credits. Under the proposal the House of Commons would have the final say on all secondary legislation, avoiding the need for a confrontation in the Lords, where the Conservatives do not have a majority.
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As it is now he is a nobody.
Ask yourselves who is doing the power broking and arm twisting on behalf of Corbyn (if indeed Corbyn knows what is going on - if not him then MacDonnell). Watson is as much toast the rest of the PLP (and by inference since it all leads to civil war) the rest of the Labour Party.
@bbcqt
Put down by Dimbleby to Mogg....'when you were at Eton then'
Better put down by Mogg....'Yes, with your son'
The Beeboids like their privileged backgrounds being pointed out about as much as the Guardianistas. Love to bang on about out of touch Cameron and Osborne, despite having equally rarefied backgrounds.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
Next best 'Empire Strikes Back is under half GWTW total.
Of course films today are really just adverts for the ancillary toys/DVDs and other stuff where most of the money is made
JRMFNMP Anybody?
He would bring some proper class to the job.
At the moment Labour policy is to demand a two year ban on EU migrants receiving in-work benefits. But Mr Corbyn told the Politico website: “If someone is working, paying taxes like anyone else, he should have access to the same benefits as everyone else.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12055290/EU-summit-David-Cameron-live.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews
(Not to mention bloody minecraft!)
I doubt Benn will do much better than Howard, he is still associated with the left of the Labour Party which means he will not win enough of the middle but his position on airstrikes means he does not enthuse the left base of Labour either
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens
Well off topic, but some years ago while doing some work on how the elderly handled their medicines I met a man who said that when he graduated from Imperial during WWII, with an excellent chemistry degree, he had been sent to work on the development of penicillin.
So. Get a film. Cast it with US actors, spread the ethnicities about a bit, film bits in Iceland (Prometheus, Oblivion, Thor:TDW) set parts in London (UK's a good market: see FF6, Thor:TDW) and China, some nice action set pieces, release it, wait for the money to roll in
Disney paid 4billion to for the Star Wars franchise and to start making inroads on that SW:TFA has to gross 1.5billion worldwide. Not easy, but with projections at 2billion, they may make it with room to spare and initial reviews aren't denting that.
Oh yes you can!
Before the FTPA you could vote a government down.
Since the FTPA you can only vote a government into a 14 day period where they need to win a subsequent vote.
(I'm really hoping for an animated Mickey mouse special with light-sabres. I may be in a minority of one, as with most things)
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/17/these-diy-netflix-socks-pause-your-show-when-you-fall-asleep/
I do hope Episode VIII will be better and more original, plot-wise.
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) is still my favourite film in the Franchise.
If in 2020 Labour and the SNP - together with other parties - have the votes to defeat the Tories on a Queen's Speech, they will do so - without any deal having been reached between them. Their supporters would expect nothing less!
Plenty of movies today are not adverts for toys and ancillary stuff (I don't even understand why being an advert for the DVR would be bad, if the movie is good it is such a advert). Star Wars is one of those advertising ancillary stuff, but then very early on it always was. Superhero movies are too. But most are not.
So now he’s a (Michael Moorcroft) Liberal. Where they stand on bombing Moscow or anything else I do not know.
Michael John Potter (The Liberal Party Candidate) 283
Kerry Margaret Ennis (The Conservative Party Candidate) 278
Stephen Shaw (Independent) 124
Darren Michael Allanson (no description but the Liberal Democrat) 81
Tobias Nicholas Hugh Barran (Yorkshire First) 32
Read more: http://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/6673/elections-december-15-16-17#ixzz3uffGWHmC
Steve Hawkins
Nigel Farage on Douglas Carswell: "We have got one person going round the country giving the impression UKIP is split – that can’t go on."
This is the SDP Mike Potter: https://twitter.com/farmermike2
This is the Liberal Mike Potter: http://www.ryedaleliberals.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/20151203-Focus-No.3-Introducing-Mike-Potter.pdf