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  • JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    edited December 2015
    If any further proof were needed on Trump's wrongness in all things, he is thanking "respected columnist" Katie Hopkins for her support

    http://tinyurl.com/hcmepoj

    And he is leading by a distance. Terrifying. Remind me never to go to America...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,001
    edited December 2015
    Mr. 1983, oh, I agree he'll get a meaningless piece of paper.

    Edited extra bit: quite, Mr. Llama. And if we cannot trust the EU, why should we be a member?
  • malcolmg said:

    Scott_P said:

    @blairmcdougall: The most revealing part of the FMQs exchanges on #ForthRoadBridge https://t.co/ZFFvVc9YWr

    So it is utterly the SNP's government's fault. Reduce the maintenance company's budget by 65% and organise maintenance around that available budget.
    The proposed three year capital grant for FETA has been reduced by 65% and, as a result, a major review of FETA's Capital Plan over this period was carried out. This review has confirmed that FETA’s current contractual obligations can be met and has also identified the balance of funding available to carry out the non-committed capital schemes.

    37. Using risk analysis techniques, a priority ranking of the non-committed schemes has been carried out to determine which schemes can be taken forward within the available budget. Several schemes have had to be deferred and others reduced in scope. However, key risks remain with the condition of the Anchorages and the Main Cable and these are being investigated. When the results from these investigations are known then the level of risk can be fully evaluated and the impact assessed on FETA's Capital Plan.
    http://www.audit-scotland.gov.uk/docs/local/2012/fa_1112_forth_estuary_transport.pdf
    bollox

    That just about sums up the Scottish government.
  • John_M said:

    Charles said:


    Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason?

    Split my time between SoCal and Umbria most likely
    I'd like to live in Vancouver or Auckland. Only utter laziness prevents me from emigrating :).
    How lucky then for Canada and New Zealand that they are spared at least one more lazy Brit.
  • JackW said:

    I'm just heading off to London for an event at the Russian Embassy.

    Honey trap??

    Be especially wary of Ivan of the Belgravia Hair Centre ....

    Well if its a honey trap he might as well at least try to enjoy it.
  • If any further proof were needed on Trump's wrongness in all things, he is thanking "respected columnist" Katie Hopkins for her support

    http://tinyurl.com/hcmepoj

    And he is leading by a distance. Terrifying. Remind me never to go to America...

    Don't go to America :lol:
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited December 2015
    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
  • Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic. I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh.

    BTW, I managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    How will the establishment block him?
  • One of the biggest 'rebel' groups in Syria wants to declare an um.. Islamic State.
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/largest-rebel-group-calls-for-an-islamic-state-in-syria/

    Its part of the 'Islamic Front'. Why not search elsewhere if you are trying to tell us news.
  • Blimey, it's tetchy on here this afternoon. Pre-Christmas stress syndrome?

    Its worse than tetchy.
    Far too many people are demonstrating they know no more of the world now than they did before 10pm on 7 May. They knew nothing then and they know nothing indeed even less now. They just choose to make it up as they go along.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited December 2015

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic. I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh.

    BTW, I managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    How will the establishment block him?
    Every journo worth their salt is currently researching that question. In great depth.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    It's my birthday today and
    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,603



    Out of interest Mr Palmer where would you go?

    Not too bothered - unrelated factors like cost and opportunities would weigh more heavily than which particular country, but knowing the language would be helpful. Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Norway? But it'll be a while before a Trump clone runs Britain, I expect, so not going anywhere.

    Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason?

    WilliamH:

    "Well, unfortunately for you he doesn't exist. And he was originally Belgian (but still fake)

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/belgiumpork.asp "

    Post of the day!
    I'd go to Canada probably. A little different, but I'm terrible withlanguages so I'd still be able to get by.
  • Just had a very scary thought. Sarah Palin as Trump's running mate.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    edited December 2015
    The words of the children's song are looking prophetic:

    "Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
    And said goodbye to the circus
    Off she went with a trumpety-trump
    Trump, trump, trump
    "
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,047
    Have fun Mike! Try not to be recruited by the KGB while you are there. They are most likely desperate to find out the secrets of the PB Tory, and why they are so often right.... ;)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,698

    Mr. Eagles, that's crazy.

    Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?

    To my knowledge, he's asked for a statement to that effect with no legal weight whatever. Considering genuine legal provisions have been swept aside by the eurozone in recent years (to zero action by Cameron), I'm not sure what on earth he thinks a statement of intent will do.
    Clearly obligations not set out in treaties have no binding power.

    On the other hand, it is unrealistic to expect new treaties to be drawn up - in a 28 member EU - in less than about 5 years,

    Therefore, I believe the order would need to be: (1) Heads of Terms (non legally binding) now; (2) To be incorporated into the next treaty.

    This obviously creates the possibility that we agree to something which is not later incorporated into the treaties. I would therefore suggest that - in the event of an "in" vote - the government creates a cross party committee to examine the extent to which the agreement has been adhered to, up to and including decisions of the ECJ. Said committee can recommend another referendum in the event that treaties do not incorporate the spirit of the earlier agreement.
  • Just had a very scary thought. Sarah Palin as Trump's running mate.

    To be fair, that's a balanced ticket, albeit a very special type.

  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    BURN HIM!!!

    felix said:

    Hardly a surprise. Huge swathes of the Muslim community won't integrate here in the UK, and I expect it's the same in the US. Nobody wants a parallel society in their country that dislikes if not outright hates them. I find it baffling that politicians and media types don't seem able to understand this

    It's a mystery - every time there's a twitter outrage - the good old public respond with an almighty one fingered response.
    Crazy, right? it's almost as if Twitter isn't indicative of public opinion ;)
  • Saw a tiny bit of a trailer for a Sky News summary of 2015 they'll be showing at some point. Had Cameron and Miliband chuntering before the election. That time feels bloody ages ago now.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    isam said:

    It's my birthday today and

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
    Tomorrow's another day, eh?!

    Happy birthday!
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Pong said:

    isam said:

    It's my birthday today and

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
    Tomorrow's another day, eh?!

    Happy birthday!
    It was a massive result!

    Thank you, 31 again...
  • DearPBDearPB Posts: 439

    Just had a very scary thought. Sarah Palin as Trump's running mate.

    To be fair, that's a balanced ticket, albeit a very special type.

    She'd definitely be keen - she did a fawning interview with him ages ago. But it's important to remember that he isn't actually an idiot. And also that he'll want a VP who does lots of the boring things that he's not interested in doing. I also wouldn't be surprised if he found someone who was not obviously a Republican to be his running mate.

    We are actually now at the point where this sort of consideration - his VP pick - begins to be worth seriously thinking about!
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,552
    good old Lib Dems....https://twitter.com/CoorieCal
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,033
    edited December 2015

    Just had a very scary thought. Sarah Palin as Trump's running mate.

    To be fair, that's a balanced ticket, albeit a very special type.

    In a CNN motto "fair and balanced" kind of way....
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    isam said:

    Pong said:

    isam said:

    It's my birthday today and

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
    Tomorrow's another day, eh?!

    Happy birthday!
    It was a massive result!

    Thank you, 31 again...
    What, you lost, or the team lost?

    You're up £428k?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,579

    Pulpstar said:

    Charles said:

    I haven't seen how anyone else on the Republican side has reacted

    It's put clear red water between him and Ben Carson, so Trump is hoovering the right wing loon vote.
    ... and there's so may of them.
    Are the percentage figures in the polls from registered Republicans or from US citizens generally?
    To answer my own question, the poll is amongst Republican caucus and primary voters, so a self selected group of activists who are to the right of the US electorate. The 'independents' are more for Trump than the Republicans. I'm not sure what that actually means.

    "A new poll of Republican primary and caucus voters by Zogby Analytics
    Trump leads among self-identified Republicans (33% to Rubio’s 16%, Carson’s 12%, Bush’s 8%, and Cruz’s 6%), but wallops everyone with 56% among independents (followed by Carson’s 15% and Cruz’s 9%)."
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2015/12/09/zogby-analytics-trump-leads-by-25-points-over-nearest-rival/
    Curiously, Trump's support base is not especially right wing.
  • Happy birthday, Mr. Isam.
  • Happy birthday isam, it sounds like the drinks are on you tonight, birthday or no birthday.
  • DearPBDearPB Posts: 439
    DearPB said:

    Just had a very scary thought. Sarah Palin as Trump's running mate.

    To be fair, that's a balanced ticket, albeit a very special type.

    She'd definitely be keen - she did a fawning interview with him ages ago. But it's important to remember that he isn't actually an idiot. And also that he'll want a VP who does lots of the boring things that he's not interested in doing. I also wouldn't be surprised if he found someone who was not obviously a Republican to be his running mate.

    We are actually now at the point where this sort of consideration - his VP pick - begins to be worth seriously thinking about!
    So here's a thought. The week before election day, Ivanka Trump turns 35, thereby becoming eligible to be VP....

    I actually think this isn't that crazy an idea (in the context in which we now operate).
  • I'm just heading off to London for an event at the Russian Embassy.

    Honey trap??

    Да здравствует политическая ставки!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,033
    edited December 2015
    I am now officially galleried and palaced out.

    The Klimts at the Belvedere were worth coming to Vienna for alone. The Kiss is impressively grand but there were at least 5 Klimts in the same room I would have taken home before I got to it.

    And today, I sat in a little side room of the Kunsthistoriches Museum undisturbed for 15 minutes, just me and three Rembrandt self portraits....
  • isam said:

    It's my birthday today and

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
    Happy Birthday!

    С днем рождения!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,062
    Happy Birthday Sam
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Pong said:

    isam said:

    Pong said:

    isam said:

    It's my birthday today and

    Pong said:

    Metatron said:

    I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices

    I'm balls deep in Paul Ryan for the GOP NOM at 999/1, on that same logic.

    I'm not sure Romney's odds should be that much shorter than Ryan's, tbh, but the odds on someone not currently in the race becoming the GOP candidate can't be over 100/1. Probably more like 50/1.

    The best bet is probably to lay the current declared runners on betfair at >99% where possible.

    BTW, I only managed to kick my PB addiction for about 18 hours. How hopeless is that?!!
    Today is my birthday and I laid a team in the cricket that traded 1.01 for 428k and lost!!
    Tomorrow's another day, eh?!

    Happy birthday!
    It was a massive result!

    Thank you, 31 again...
    What, you lost, or the team lost?

    You're up £428k?
    Noooo!!!!

    My position was

    +7 Team A
    -1 Team B

    and Team B traded at 1.01 for 428k

    170 was matched on Team A, and they won
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Happy birthday isam, it sounds like the drinks are on you tonight, birthday or no birthday.

    Happy birthday, Mr. Isam.

    Cheers lads.. it wasn't a 428k win though (!) but nice anyway
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited December 2015
    The problem, of course, is that what might appeal to the GOP core base might not be what the party needs if it is to take key swing stakes next November.
    I respect OGH's gift for subtle understatement.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Happy birthday Sam.
  • Incidentally, as much as I enjoy the other regulars and the guest-headers, I love Mike's pieces above the line. We often praise his qualities as a host, but to keep churning out sharp, relevant posts, day after day, is really impressive and oft underlooked.

    Also, all the best to Sam. Have a good one!
  • Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    ISAM יום הולדת שמח
    .להדליק את הנרות הלילה, אם אתה עדיין לא עשית את זה
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,698

    Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?

    He's not banned. He was never banned for long.

    I'll drop him an email on his personal email address.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    rcs1000 said:

    Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?

    He's not banned. He was never banned for long.

    I'll drop him an email on his personal email address.
    Yeh! Bring back Socrates. Tell we're all on hemlock tonight.
  • Mr. 1000, cheers.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,047

    Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?

    After all, AVmas is the season of forgiving! ;)
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    Happy birthday Sam.

    Re the Trump outcry. Yes, he's a bit of tit, but barring him from entering the country would be childish.

    I'll let you into a well known secret. There's a feeling among some people that Muslims and other minority groups get preferential treatment. They also think posh people get preferential treatment. The Left react to the former suspicion by throwing out "racist" and using it to damp down discussion while totally agreeing with the latter suspicion. This exacerbates the paranoia and distrust. The left are then seen as being selective in their views - probably with some cause. On the other hand, the Establishment (the posh people) react in the same way.

    It's a self-perpetuating problem, and therein lies the problem. No one wants to look at the problem.

    I think I'll vote Trump for SPOTY and Fury for POTUS.

  • Talking of long-shots, I've just taken a few quid on Biden at 800.0 (yes, 799/1) for Next Prez. I've generously left some 600.0 and 610.0. If for any reason Hillary had to withdraw at a late stage - which is not such a remote possibility - surely he'd be a likely replacement.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,698
    Surely we should all be celebrating Festivus this year
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6
  • Talking of long-shots, I've just taken a few quid on Biden at 800.0 (yes, 799/1) for Next Prez. I've generously left some 600.0 and 610.0. If for any reason Hillary had to withdraw at a late stage - which is not such a remote possibility - surely he'd be a likely replacement.

    I believe I may have tipped that one a few weeks ago (though he wasn't quite at 800 then but was into three figures). It's a wise move. If anything politically fatal does happen to Hillary between now and March, there'd still be time for him to enter and win the race in the normal fashion. Were something to happen to her between March and August, it'd be harder as she'd already have racked up a load of delegates but on the assumption that she'd withdrawn and freed her delegates, it's surely more likely that they'd go for another establishment mainstream candidate than Sanders, and yes, Biden is the clear go-to option in that case.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?

    He's not banned. He was never banned for long.

    I'll drop him an email on his personal email address.
    His page on vanilla shows him as banned.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,783
    edited December 2015
    Whaaat?!
    Jeremy Corbin stands bail for convicted telephone fraudster related to terrorism - so says BBC News just now.

    Edit Correction: JC supplied letter of support, not bail. (Thanks Richard Nabavi)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,698

    rcs1000 said:

    Just on Mr. Socrates, I happened to mention to him on Twitter that we were hoping he might return, but it seems he's still banned... any chance of a Christmas reprieve?

    He's not banned. He was never banned for long.

    I'll drop him an email on his personal email address.
    His page on vanilla shows him as banned.
    Hmmm: I've just reset him again.

    He's definitely not banned right now :-)
  • geoffw said:

    Whaaat?!
    Jeremy Corbin stands bail for convicted telephone fraudster related to terrorism - so says BBC News just now.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35064360
  • watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474
    geoffw said:

    Whaaat?!
    Jeremy Corbin stands bail for convicted telephone fraudster related to terrorism - so says BBC News just now.

    This story?

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/fraudster-locked-up-despite-jeremy-corbyn-letter-supporting-bail-application-a3134716.html

    Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn, is quite clearly the enemy within.
  • watford30 said:

    geoffw said:

    Whaaat?!
    Jeremy Corbin stands bail for convicted telephone fraudster related to terrorism - so says BBC News just now.

    This story?

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/fraudster-locked-up-despite-jeremy-corbyn-letter-supporting-bail-application-a3134716.html

    Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn, is quite clearly the enemy within.
    Lunacy. Corbyn is a serious danger to Britain. God forbid he becomes the next PM, an armed coup might be on the cards!
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited December 2015

    Lunacy. Corbyn is a serious danger to Britain. God forbid he becomes the next PM, an armed coup might be on the cards!

    The military are already training, just in case:

    twitter.com/rob_merrick/status/669861689790177280
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    geoffw said:

    Whaaat?!
    Jeremy Corbin stands bail for convicted telephone fraudster related to terrorism - so says BBC News just now.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35064360
    I bet Mohamed Dahir, 23, Sakaria Aden, 22, and Yasser Abukar, 24, Mohammed Sharif Abokar, 28,were all Christian Science advocates. ;)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,698
    tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Yeah, but "You're in trouble when your best friends are Mr Pinot and Mr Grigio" was an awesome put down.

    Personally, I don't know if even she believes what she says. I think she has just built a career out of sounding outrageous.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,545
    edited December 2015
    Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,187
    edited December 2015
    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
  • AJKAJK Posts: 20
    I expect the Democrats will bring back an updated version of that Goldwater attack ad from 1964- 'Daisy', I think it was called.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,545
    edited December 2015
  • DixieDixie Posts: 1,221
    off topic, George Galloway claims to be standing as London Mayor. What % will he get? How much will he take from Khan? What are the odds of an upset?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,545
    edited December 2015
    "conned into transferring £9,000 into the account of Mohammed Abokar who withdrew the cash and "almost immediately" took it into the Hippodrome Casino."

    Not very Islamic....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,545
    edited December 2015
    Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?
  • Corbyn laden with charges of being soft on security?
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    I wonder what decency yardstick he's using to justify writing a letter - it's not exactly jumping the ticket barriers is it?

    Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?

  • Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?

    As we all know Islam is the Religion of Peace™ so obviously it's nothing to do with Islam. It must be a stitch-up by the evil Tories or UKIP or something because they're RAAAAACIST.
  • Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?

    Meanwhile, the Guardian (of all places) today has details of another of Jeremy Corbyn's surprising appearances:

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/10/the-hidden-lives-of-knife-crime-victims

    It chooses to lead an article about the hidden lives of knife-crime victims with an example that wouldn't be everyone's first choice for a sympathetic case: a young man who was stabbed to death when he was trying to rob a drug dealer's flat and who was due to stand trial for previous robberies committed a few months previously.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robbery-victim-jailed-life-after-6153793

    In the words of the Guardian:

    "Isaiah Ekpaloba’s funeral cost his mother the last penny of her savings, with more than 1,000 people attending the service for the popular 18-year-old, including the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn."
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamieRoss7: Uh oh. The Scottish parliament is starting legal action against the independence campers who have refused to leave. https://t.co/ovfkQQjLNd
  • Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?

    Meanwhile, the Guardian (of all places) today has details of another of Jeremy Corbyn's surprising appearances:

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/10/the-hidden-lives-of-knife-crime-victims

    It chooses to lead an article about the hidden lives of knife-crime victims with an example that wouldn't be everyone's first choice for a sympathetic case: a young man who was stabbed to death when he was trying to rob a drug dealer's flat and who was due to stand trial for previous robberies committed a few months previously.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robbery-victim-jailed-life-after-6153793

    In the words of the Guardian:

    "Isaiah Ekpaloba’s funeral cost his mother the last penny of her savings, with more than 1,000 people attending the service for the popular 18-year-old, including the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn."
    Quick! Give his mother a peerage!
  • Mr. P, be fair. The SNP have a history of being irritated when their countrymen refuse to leave :p
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    Chooses his friends wisely, does Corbyn
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
    Lefties appear to be completely lacking self-awareness as well as being incredibly misogynistic. Here you go Plato, this is what they'd prefer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Wonder how Jahadi Jezza knows these individuals. Either he doesn't and he writes letters for any old granny robbers or maybe they are regulars one of Jezza's regular hang outs, Finsbury Park Mosque?

    As we all know Islam is the Religion of Peace™ so obviously it's nothing to do with Islam. It must be a stitch-up by the evil Tories or UKIP or something because they're RAAAAACIST.
    I don't think the Quran has much to say about defrauding grannies, so I think I shall excuse these scumbags from being part of global Jihad.
  • watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474
    John_M said:

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
    Lefties appear to be completely lacking self-awareness as well as being incredibly misogynistic. Here you go Plato, this is what they'd prefer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
    Is that Tyson on the left of frame?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    edited December 2015
    I was tempted to be even more sexist (and sink to Tyson Fury levels)- but to be gender balanced, I don't think sex appeal and politics mixes particularly well, and people (men and women) spouting ideological clap trap just come across as distinctly unattractive.

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    I think the sad thing about Katie Hopkins is that she does believe it. But, like most silly narcissistic people, she is really quite vulnerable. She looks for sympathy in her illness
    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Yeah, but "You're in trouble when your best friends are Mr Pinot and Mr Grigio" was an awesome put down.

    Personally, I don't know if even she believes what she says. I think she has just built a career out of sounding outrageous.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    What I find so fascinating is that I've never been the teeniest bit insulting to @tyson ever, and I get treated to this sort of abuse quite regularly. I don't know why I restrain myself really :neutral:
    John_M said:

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
    Lefties appear to be completely lacking self-awareness as well as being incredibly misogynistic. Here you go Plato, this is what they'd prefer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited December 2015

    What I find so fascinating is that I've never been the teeniest bit insulting to @tyson ever, and I get treated to this sort of abuse quite regularly. I don't know why I restrain myself really :neutral:

    John_M said:

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
    Lefties appear to be completely lacking self-awareness as well as being incredibly misogynistic. Here you go Plato, this is what they'd prefer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
    Because you know your place? ;)
  • tyson said:

    I think the sad thing about Katie Hopkins is that she does believe it. But, like most silly narcissistic people, she is really quite vulnerable. She looks for sympathy in her illness

    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Yeah, but "You're in trouble when your best friends are Mr Pinot and Mr Grigio" was an awesome put down.

    Personally, I don't know if even she believes what she says. I think she has just built a career out of sounding outrageous.
    Meanwhile, 446,683 people don't believe in Freedom of Speech...
  • Mr. Tyson, must so I think that's very unfair on Miss Plato. Hopkins is barking mad. Miss Plato's just on the right (and the centre-right at that).
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Yes, that does sound distinctly sexist.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited December 2015
    :smiley:

    Happy Birthday too
    isam said:

    What I find so fascinating is that I've never been the teeniest bit insulting to @tyson ever, and I get treated to this sort of abuse quite regularly. I don't know why I restrain myself really :neutral:

    John_M said:

    tyson said:

    I know this sounds distinctly sexist

    Er, yes, you are being distinctly sexist!
    Lefties appear to be completely lacking self-awareness as well as being incredibly misogynistic. Here you go Plato, this is what they'd prefer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
    Because you know your place? ;)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,574
    Happy birthday iSam.
  • I am stunned at this. Corbyn has no concern for the elderly that were defrauded and many others that would be defrauded by these vile crooks if left out of prison.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,574
    In other news, the tomb of Suleiman the Magnificent may have been discovered:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/suleiman-the-magnificents-tomb-believed-found-in-hungary/2015/12/09/a21b99ae-9e74-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html

    An interesting fellow: either a hero or a right barsteward, depending on your view.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Is Corbyn a useful idiot or a useless idiot?

    It's a tough call.
  • Mr. Jessop, he seemed quite merciful when dealing with Rhodes.

    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/knights-of-st-john.html
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Thank you everyone


    Sorry to fish for greetings, I was more saying it in the context that I had a massive lucky bet and it happened to be my birthday :blush:
  • tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Tyson - you might want to reflect on that a little. It's one of the most unpleasant things I have ever read on here, and that is saying something.

  • On topic - Trump might be a lunatic, but he is not stupid.
  • Mr. Observer, so, he's like Joffrey? :p
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    tyson said:

    Plato- Hopkins appears to be your identikit. Throw in Ann Coulter into the mix and you can do a threesome. I know this sounds distinctly sexist but there is something utterly repellant and deeply sexually, unattractive about fiercely, ideologically right wing women. Lefties aren't that appealing either to be honest.

    After all these comments about Katie Hopkins - who was spot on about whingeing Brits stuck in Sharm - I was curious to see what she'd written... some of it sums up what I think too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3353060/Calm-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-never-going-happen-isn-t-America-just-little-bit-lucky-suggest-it.html#ixzz3twBCUEA6

    Tyson - you might want to reflect on that a little. It's one of the most unpleasant things I have ever read on here, and that is saying something.

    He's just another in the dreary procession of lefties who try and bully Plato. I've been here for years and they just keep coming along every now and then.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    In other news, the tomb of Suleiman the Magnificent may have been discovered:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/suleiman-the-magnificents-tomb-believed-found-in-hungary/2015/12/09/a21b99ae-9e74-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html

    An interesting fellow: either a hero or a right barsteward, depending on your view.

    He was probably the most powerful man in the world - in his day. It was pretty much all downhill from there.
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