I'm trying to think what I would do if the leading candidate for Labour or Conservative leader said that people like me should be excluded from the country and their polling improved. Start packing my bags?
Well my advice to the Muslim community would be, "fit in or f*** off". And if our esteemed politicians had made that clear from the beginning, certain areas of our green and pleasant land wouldn't be overrun with barbarous religious savages.
The overwhelming majority of American Muslims are productive, law-abiding citizens. They are no more prone to barbarism than American atheists, Christians, Jews etc. But you know this perfectly well.
Genuine question: what % of US is muslim?
I don't see them causing an awful lot of bother.
It's about 3 million so about 1%, generally very well integrated.
Thank you, it confirms my point that although I disagree with what Trump said it really is much ado about nothing.
What, because it is ok to pick on minorities in the population as long as they are relatively small ones?
And I am obviously speculating wildly here but I think that President Trump's policy might have some impact on American foreign policy and international standing.
I'm trying to think what I would do if the leading candidate for Labour or Conservative leader said that people like me should be excluded from the country and their polling improved. Start packing my bags?
Well my advice to the Muslim community would be, "fit in or f*** off". And if our esteemed politicians had made that clear from the beginning, certain areas of our green and pleasant land wouldn't be overrun with barbarous religious savages.
The overwhelming majority of American Muslims are productive, law-abiding citizens. They are no more prone to barbarism than American atheists, Christians, Jews etc. But you know this perfectly well.
Genuine question: what % of US is muslim?
I don't see them causing an awful lot of bother.
It's about 3 million so about 1%, generally very well integrated.
Thank you, it confirms my point that although I disagree with what Trump said it really is much ado about nothing.
In this land of dwindling FREE SPEECH, both generally and on PB, I've been ordered by Mr. Smithson not to mention M****m, I**********a, I**S, I***m, on pain of banishment or being taken out by a Hit Man one windy evening.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
I'm trying to think what I would do if the leading candidate for Labour or Conservative leader said that people like me should be excluded from the country and their polling improved. Start packing my bags?
Well my advice to the Muslim community would be, "fit in or f*** off". And if our esteemed politicians had made that clear from the beginning, certain areas of our green and pleasant land wouldn't be overrun with barbarous religious savages.
Sheesh. If Britain became a country where one had to fit in with ideas like yours, it'd be time to leave.
Out of interest Mr Palmer where would you go?
Dr Palmer has expressed a wish to retire to miranetless Switzerland once his mischief making in the UK is finished.
Surely he'd prefer to join a country within the EU?
Oddly not. He's also a great fan of Norway.
You mean Palmer doesn't want to go to countries than enforce the sort of policies that he wanted to impose on the UK because those policies result in a shit place to live in for ordinary people.
This is not a good polling week for Rubio, basically the only ones with momentum are now Trump and Cruz, and Trump not only leads by Hillary margins he's got a larger momentum that increases his lead.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
This is not a good polling week for Rubio, basically the only ones with momentum are now Trump and Cruz, and Trump not only leads by Hillary margins he's got a larger momentum that increases his lead.
The CBS poll was carried out from 4/12- 8/12 so only on only the final day would the sample have known about Trump statement
Nothing to do with Scripture, the muslims in the countries where they are at 1-3% are as Islamic as those in any other country, and the % of extremists among them is probably similar... it is all about numbers and the clash between a dominant religion and one that is big enough to pose a threat, and I still say we would have the same problem if it were any other religion that was so big in number and not Islam
Those who were predicting, including punters on Betfair, that Donald Trump’s controversial Muslim immigration statement would be a negative might have read it wrongly.
It was daft to make such predictions without waiting for the poll reaction of Americans.
A good rule of thumb is that democrats in the US are like Tories here, republicans in the US are like UKIP'ers here.
The polling from the US is very predictable for this one, once you've seen the domestic UK yougov numbers by party affiliation.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
Not really, the exact same phenomenon can be observed with plane and car crashes.
This is not a good polling week for Rubio, basically the only ones with momentum are now Trump and Cruz, and Trump not only leads by Hillary margins he's got a larger momentum that increases his lead.
The CBS poll was carried out from 4/12- 8/12 so only on only the final day would the sample have known about Trump statement
So there is a strong possibility that Trump might even be higher now.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
Not really, the exact same phenomenon can be observed with plane and car crashes.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
I think people are becoming unnecessarily polarised over this issue - either outspokenly against Muslim immigration or apalled that anyone should object to features of it. It obscures the main issue that it is our Governments (successively) that have allowed this to happen, whether by incompetence or malice. We have enough laws, what we need is for them to be applied universally without fear or favour. Only when that has been tried and shown to have failed, will it be time to put any 'limits' on particular faiths.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
Not really, the exact same phenomenon can be observed with plane and car crashes.
Not quite - no-one advocates banning planes.
Noone really advocates banning cars either. I believe guns are seen in the same light in much of the USA.
This is not a good polling week for Rubio, basically the only ones with momentum are now Trump and Cruz, and Trump not only leads by Hillary margins he's got a larger momentum that increases his lead.
The CBS poll was carried out from 4/12- 8/12 so only on only the final day would the sample have known about Trump statement
So there is a strong possibility that Trump might even be higher now.
Yes. I think the part of the Republican base that supports Trump is unshockable by him.
Not too bothered - unrelated factors like cost and opportunities would weigh more heavily than which particular country, but knowing the language would be helpful. Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Norway? But it'll be a while before a Trump clone runs Britain, I expect, so not going anywhere.
Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason?
WilliamH:
"Well, unfortunately for you he doesn't exist. And he was originally Belgian (but still fake)
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
I suspect we need to be careful about reading too much into the poll reaction to Trump.
I don't think it indicates that the GOP or Americans are uniquely racist or anything like that.
It's just that Islamic terrorists killing Americans is something that the voters are worried about. And Trump is offering a "solution". It may be simplistic and difficult to construct and enforce. But most voters don't care about the details - they just see someone with a Solution.
Obama just wrings his hands and mumbles on, while I haven't seen how anyone else on the Republican side has reacted
Personally I think a deal is indeed inevitable, but Cameron has boxed himself in - I don't think he wants to be the PM who recommends Leave, but he's locked himself into a negotiating position that it will be difficult to sell as a success. Some sort of fudge will emerge, but it's getting genuinely tricky.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
Surely the fact of the gun massacre is proof of their integration, as Private Eye point out...
Personally I think a deal is indeed inevitable, but Cameron has boxed himself in - I don't think he wants to be the PM who recommends Leave, but he's locked himself into a negotiating position that it will be difficult to sell as a success. Some sort of fudge will emerge, but it's getting genuinely tricky.
Personally I think a deal is indeed inevitable, but Cameron has boxed himself in - I don't think he wants to be the PM who recommends Leave, but he's locked himself into a negotiating position that it will be difficult to sell as a success. Some sort of fudge will emerge, but it's getting genuinely tricky.
Not too bothered - unrelated factors like cost and opportunities would weigh more heavily than which particular country, but knowing the language would be helpful. Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Norway? But it'll be a while before a Trump clone runs Britain, I expect, so not going anywhere.
Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason?
WilliamH:
"Well, unfortunately for you he doesn't exist. And he was originally Belgian (but still fake)
So it is utterly the SNP's government's fault. Reduce the maintenance company's budget by 65% and organise maintenance around that available budget.
The proposed three year capital grant for FETA has been reduced by 65% and, as a result, a major review of FETA's Capital Plan over this period was carried out. This review has confirmed that FETA’s current contractual obligations can be met and has also identified the balance of funding available to carry out the non-committed capital schemes.
37. Using risk analysis techniques, a priority ranking of the non-committed schemes has been carried out to determine which schemes can be taken forward within the available budget. Several schemes have had to be deferred and others reduced in scope. However, key risks remain with the condition of the Anchorages and the Main Cable and these are being investigated. When the results from these investigations are known then the level of risk can be fully evaluated and the impact assessed on FETA's Capital Plan.
I suspect we need to be careful about reading too much into the poll reaction to Trump.
I don't think it indicates that the GOP or Americans are uniquely racist or anything like that.
It's just that Islamic terrorists killing Americans is something that the voters are worried about. And Trump is offering a "solution". It may be simplistic and difficult to construct and enforce. But most voters don't care about the details - they just see someone with a Solution.
Obama just wrings his hands and mumbles on, while I haven't seen how anyone else on the Republican side has reacted
I think it's true that the reaction of many Western leaders to IS has been anaemic and has seemed to lack the element of authentic outrage. Part of what made Hilary Benn's speech so powerful was that here, at last, was someone in our own Parliament denouncing IS as "fascists.. that.. need to be defeated".
At some point Christie, Rubio and Bush's betfair price will meet with the reality of their polling.
Cruz, Trump and Carson all good value methinks.
It's one of those markets where you want to lay the lot.
I've just laid Cruz at 5.4, having backed him at 10.4.
Dunno why Carson has gone out so far so quickly, but I'm not surprised that his trajectory is downwards.
I wouldn't rule out Christie; he might be value at 15.0.
I'm negative Bush, and hedged (Pres +ve, Candidate -ve) on Rubio. Green all the rest- biggest green Trump for a couple of hundred quid. I don't think it's a market to do the mortgage on.
According to the article, the eagle was called Uncle Sam. I say 'called' because, unknown to Trump, he'd recently declared his new name was Yousef al-Bahrul.
In the words of STW, Donald just Reaped the Whirlwind.
Personally I think a deal is indeed inevitable, but Cameron has boxed himself in - I don't think he wants to be the PM who recommends Leave, but he's locked himself into a negotiating position that it will be difficult to sell as a success. Some sort of fudge will emerge, but it's getting genuinely tricky.
It's exactly what one would expect. There will be a deal on benefits. It's hardly a point of major principle for our EU friends, despite the rhetoric, and in any case a lot of countries support us on this, to some extent at least. Naturally the Poles and other Eastern European countries are holding out for some pork-barrelling; what else would anyone expect?
The 'rows' (whch of course aren't rows at all) will rumble on until the last possible moment, then a deal will be done on this.
What's perhaps more interesting, and rather surprising to me, is that Tusk seemed to think the other three main sets of demands were easier. In particular I was expecting the one about Eurozone hegemony to be the most difficult.
According to the article, the eagle was called Uncle Sam. I say 'called' because, unknown to Trump, he'd recently declared his new name was Yousef al-Bahrul.
In the words of STW, Donald just Reaped the Whirlwind.
According to the article, the eagle was called Uncle Sam. I say 'called' because, unknown to Trump, he'd recently declared his new name was Yousef al-Bahrul.
In the words of STW, Donald just Reaped the Whirlwind.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
Accidents are negligible and the twenty thousand or so suicides harm the person themselves.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
Accidents are negligible and the twenty thousand or so suicides harm the person themselves.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
Accidents are negligible and the twenty thousand or so suicides harm the person themselves.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
In this land of dwindling FREE SPEECH, both generally and on PB, I've been ordered by Mr. Smithson not to mention M****m, I**********a, I**S, I***m, on pain of banishment or being taken out by a Hit Man one windy evening.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
May we assume you are predicting a President Trump landslide to match your heady musings of 102 UKIP MP's.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
Accidents are negligible and the twenty thousand or so suicides harm the person themselves.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
The Tories little helper keeps up his feeble attempts at SNPBAD. Can you not get a life. Just accept the Tories are crap , they are going backwards in Scotland and will continue to do so as long as they are the London regional sockpuppet department and only attract nutjobs and no-users.
It does seem very odd that the US is reacting so strongly to one appalling terrorist gun attack which killed 14 people, but isn't in the least fussed about the other 90,000 gun deaths of the last three years.
No, not really.
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Not really. A lot of the 30,000 or so deaths a year are suicides and accidents, including deaths of decent middle-class people and their children. And even if you restrict the set to mass-shootings of the innocent chosen more or less at random, San Bernadino was, sadly, nothing particularly unusual in US terms.
Accidents are negligible and the twenty thousand or so suicides harm the person themselves.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
Interesting use of the word 'decent'.
Why?
Are you trying to claim that most ordinary people are not decent.
And your reasoning for this, err, most unusual viewpoint is what, exactly.
So what are the chances that Cameron backs Leave and Osborne doesn't? AIUI the latter is absolutely 100% wedded to remaining in the EU while Dave is still not persuaded by the case for staying in at any cost.
So it is utterly the SNP's government's fault. Reduce the maintenance company's budget by 65% and organise maintenance around that available budget.
The proposed three year capital grant for FETA has been reduced by 65% and, as a result, a major review of FETA's Capital Plan over this period was carried out. This review has confirmed that FETA’s current contractual obligations can be met and has also identified the balance of funding available to carry out the non-committed capital schemes.
37. Using risk analysis techniques, a priority ranking of the non-committed schemes has been carried out to determine which schemes can be taken forward within the available budget. Several schemes have had to be deferred and others reduced in scope. However, key risks remain with the condition of the Anchorages and the Main Cable and these are being investigated. When the results from these investigations are known then the level of risk can be fully evaluated and the impact assessed on FETA's Capital Plan.
In this land of dwindling FREE SPEECH, both generally and on PB, I've been ordered by Mr. Smithson not to mention M****m, I**********a, I**S, I***m, on pain of banishment or being taken out by a Hit Man one windy evening.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
May we assume you are predicting a President Trump landslide to match your heady musings of 102 UKIP MP's.
Are you related to Roger ?
No, Old Man, I'm predicting nothing. Except perhaps, of a more than general tightening of the worlds purse strings.
So what are the chances that Cameron backs Leave and Osborne doesn't? AIUI the latter is absolutely 100% wedded to remaining in the EU while Dave is still not persuaded by the case for staying in at any cost.
Remember Dave always takes a cast iron position, no ifs, no buts.
So what are the chances that Cameron backs Leave and Osborne doesn't? AIUI the latter is absolutely 100% wedded to remaining in the EU while Dave is still not persuaded by the case for staying in at any cost.
So it is utterly the SNP's government's fault. Reduce the maintenance company's budget by 65% and organise maintenance around that available budget.
The proposed three year capital grant for FETA has been reduced by 65% and, as a result, a major review of FETA's Capital Plan over this period was carried out. This review has confirmed that FETA’s current contractual obligations can be met and has also identified the balance of funding available to carry out the non-committed capital schemes.
37. Using risk analysis techniques, a priority ranking of the non-committed schemes has been carried out to determine which schemes can be taken forward within the available budget. Several schemes have had to be deferred and others reduced in scope. However, key risks remain with the condition of the Anchorages and the Main Cable and these are being investigated. When the results from these investigations are known then the level of risk can be fully evaluated and the impact assessed on FETA's Capital Plan.
I'm trying to think what I would do if the leading candidate for Labour or Conservative leader said that people like me should be excluded from the country and their polling improved. Start packing my bags?
Well my advice to the Muslim community would be, "fit in or f*** off". And if our esteemed politicians had made that clear from the beginning, certain areas of our green and pleasant land wouldn't be overrun with barbarous religious savages.
The overwhelming majority of American Muslims are productive, law-abiding citizens. They are no more prone to barbarism than American atheists, Christians, Jews etc. But you know this perfectly well.
Genuine question: what % of US is muslim?
I don't see them causing an awful lot of bother.
It's about 3 million so about 1%, generally very well integrated.
Thank you, it confirms my point that although I disagree with what Trump said it really is much ado about nothing.
"Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason? "
Herself and I gave this a lot of thought a couple of years back when we seriously considered emigrating and we came up with a short list of two: The Netherlands and Portugal (somewhere around Coimbra not the Algarve). In the end though we decided that the best place on the planet for us was England.
That said, I have still not given up hope of persuading Herself that we should emigrate to Northumbria.
In this land of dwindling FREE SPEECH, both generally and on PB, I've been ordered by Mr. Smithson not to mention M****m, I**********a, I**S, I***m, on pain of banishment or being taken out by a Hit Man one windy evening.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
May we assume you are predicting a President Trump landslide to match your heady musings of 102 UKIP MP's.
Are you related to Roger ?
No, Old Man, I'm predicting nothing. Except perhaps, of a more than general tightening of the worlds purse strings.
I shall pass your sound advice on fiscal stringency to Mrs JackW who will no doubt proffer her considered opinion to me in a timely and fulsome fashion.
I'm trying to think what I would do if the leading candidate for Labour or Conservative leader said that people like me should be excluded from the country and their polling improved. Start packing my bags?
Well my advice to the Muslim community would be, "fit in or f*** off". And if our esteemed politicians had made that clear from the beginning, certain areas of our green and pleasant land wouldn't be overrun with barbarous religious savages.
The overwhelming majority of American Muslims are productive, law-abiding citizens. They are no more prone to barbarism than American atheists, Christians, Jews etc. But you know this perfectly well.
Genuine question: what % of US is muslim?
I don't see them causing an awful lot of bother.
It's about 3 million so about 1%, generally very well integrated.
Thank you, it confirms my point that although I disagree with what Trump said it really is much ado about nothing.
What's your opinion on George Galloway ?
I can't abide the man, why do you ask?
He's a controversial character who has an issue with a sub 1% ethnic minority in our country
So what are the chances that Cameron backs Leave and Osborne doesn't? AIUI the latter is absolutely 100% wedded to remaining in the EU while Dave is still not persuaded by the case for staying in at any cost.
Remember Dave always takes a cast iron position, no ifs, no buts.
Any Dave position he said like this that he hasn't held on to without a different manifesto commitment in between.
I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices
Mr. Rabbit, I agree. And that's why Cameron has little chance of getting much.
Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised. Or perhaps not.
But what he's asked for isn't much. It isn't anything in fact. So unless the EU decides to FORCE concessions on him, I don't see how he'll get anything worthwhile.
Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?
Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?
To my knowledge, he's asked for a statement to that effect with no legal weight whatever. Considering genuine legal provisions have been swept aside by the eurozone in recent years (to zero action by Cameron), I'm not sure what on earth he thinks a statement of intent will do.
I`ve backed Romney at 130/1 for nomination and 700/1 for president on basis that if Trump is still the frontrunner in May 2016 the Republican establishment will block him as nominee.It will not look right if they go someone who has already been a candidate against Trump.Romney did nothing in 2012 and would have at least a 50/50 chance against Hilary so I would expect the Republican establishment to persuade him to stand.If he said no Paul Ryan,Michael Bloomberg or Susanna Martinez might be alternative choices
I think you've perfectly channeled Mitt Romney's mindset. Sitting out there somewhere - in one of his reported six houses - waiting for a lonely nation to turn its eyes to him.
I haven't seen how anyone else on the Republican side has reacted
It's put clear red water between him and Ben Carson, so Trump is hoovering the right wing loon vote.
... and there's so may of them. Are the percentage figures in the polls from registered Republicans or from US citizens generally?
To answer my own question, the poll is amongst Republican caucus and primary voters, so a self selected group of activists who are to the right of the US electorate. The 'independents' are more for Trump than the Republicans. I'm not sure what that actually means.
In this land of dwindling FREE SPEECH, both generally and on PB, I've been ordered by Mr. Smithson not to mention M****m, I**********a, I**S, I***m, on pain of banishment or being taken out by a Hit Man one windy evening.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
The reason for that MrK is that you have time and time again posted Twitter links that a simple googling would have revealed were compeltely false.
Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?
He's not asked for a veto per se. Naturally I'm biased but it's clear he hasn't asked for much and will be happy not to get much. The ECJ will overrule anything that's not treaty based, and there will be no treaty.
Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?
Mr. Dancer, what Cameron actually wants we can never know what he seems to have asked for is a promise, on Scouts' honour, that the interests of non-Euro countries within the EU will be respected. A promise that if given will last until the first conflict of interest and then an appeal to the ECJ will yield the result that it was a "Political Agreement" and so non-binding.
Let us be honest, Cameron's renegotiation has been a sham from the start.
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And I am obviously speculating wildly here but I think that President Trump's policy might have some impact on American foreign policy and international standing.
Hopefully we will never know.
Long live TRUMP. May he triumph and spit in every liberal and lefty eye.
Trump 35 /+13
Cruz 16 /+10
Carson 13 /-13
Rubio 9 /+1
Paul 4 /0
Bush 3 /-4
Huckabee 3 /-1
Kasich 3 /-1
Christie 3 /+2
Fiorina 1/ -6
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-top-ted-cruz-second-hillary-clinton-over-bernie-sanders/
Hillary 52 /0
Sanders 32 /-1
O'Malley 2 /-3
Trump is leading as much as Hillary.
Also a poll from Florida:
Trump 31/+5
Rubio 17 /-7
Bush 14 /-1
Carson 11 /-4
Cruz 10 /+5
http://polls.saintleo.edu/florida-mirrors-nation-in-persistent-affinity-for-trump-or-clinton-plus-growing-concern-for-security/
This is not a good polling week for Rubio, basically the only ones with momentum are now Trump and Cruz, and Trump not only leads by Hillary margins he's got a larger momentum that increases his lead.
Then do the same for 4-5, then 5-10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe
How many Islamic terrorist incidents do we hear of in South America?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_Muslims
Nothing to do with Scripture, the muslims in the countries where they are at 1-3% are as Islamic as those in any other country, and the % of extremists among them is probably similar... it is all about numbers and the clash between a dominant religion and one that is big enough to pose a threat, and I still say we would have the same problem if it were any other religion that was so big in number and not Islam
The polling from the US is very predictable for this one, once you've seen the domestic UK yougov numbers by party affiliation.
Honey trap??
A lot of the 90,000 of the gun deaths are black on black and/or criminal underclass slotting each other, so nothing to worry about.
The 14 victims of the muslim terrorists were ordinary decent middle class people caught up in a terrorist attack.
Unfortunately one is unfinished, the other broken.
#FMQs
Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason?
WilliamH:
"Well, unfortunately for you he doesn't exist. And he was originally Belgian (but still fake)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/belgiumpork.asp "
Post of the day!
Cruz, Trump and Carson all good value methinks.
I don't think it indicates that the GOP or Americans are uniquely racist or anything like that.
It's just that Islamic terrorists killing Americans is something that the voters are worried about. And Trump is offering a "solution". It may be simplistic and difficult to construct and enforce. But most voters don't care about the details - they just see someone with a Solution.
Obama just wrings his hands and mumbles on, while I haven't seen how anyone else on the Republican side has reacted
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/10/all-eu-states-oppose-david-camerons-freeze-migrant-benefits
Personally I think a deal is indeed inevitable, but Cameron has boxed himself in - I don't think he wants to be the PM who recommends Leave, but he's locked himself into a negotiating position that it will be difficult to sell as a success. Some sort of fudge will emerge, but it's getting genuinely tricky.
https://twitter.com/johnb78/status/674684114658717698
I've just laid Cruz at 5.4, having backed him at 10.4.
Dunno why Carson has gone out so far so quickly, but I'm not surprised that his trajectory is downwards.
I wouldn't rule out Christie; he might be value at 15.0.
Mr. Borough, Christmas is not as good as Easter, or Bonfire Night.
Are the percentage figures in the polls from registered Republicans or from US citizens generally?
In the words of STW, Donald just Reaped the Whirlwind.
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/largest-rebel-group-calls-for-an-islamic-state-in-syria/
The 'rows' (whch of course aren't rows at all) will rumble on until the last possible moment, then a deal will be done on this.
What's perhaps more interesting, and rather surprising to me, is that Tusk seemed to think the other three main sets of demands were easier. In particular I was expecting the one about Eurozone hegemony to be the most difficult.
The remaining ten thousand are mostly black on black/underclass and don't involve ordinary decent middle class people.
Muslim terrorist attacks come out of nowhere and target ordinary decent middle class people.
That is the difference.
And explains why Trump is rising in the polls.
Ordinary decent middle class people are unnerved and Trump is the only one addressing their fears.
I'm expecting a promise, which will be meaningless and ignored after we vote to Remain.
Boy, your 'fact-checking' really is a load of self-serving rubbish, isn't it?
Were the Sandy Hook dead middle class & decent?
Are you related to Roger ?
Are you trying to claim that most ordinary people are not decent.
And your reasoning for this, err, most unusual viewpoint is what, exactly.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-35061430
bollox
Not up to your usual standard, ELIZA. Have you been letting drunken first-years near your delicate code again?
Whatever Cameron gets, Nigel Farage will say it's say it's not enough.
"Also just out of interest, where would other people go if they wanted to leave for some reason? "
Herself and I gave this a lot of thought a couple of years back when we seriously considered emigrating and we came up with a short list of two: The Netherlands and Portugal (somewhere around Coimbra not the Algarve). In the end though we decided that the best place on the planet for us was England.
That said, I have still not given up hope of persuading Herself that we should emigrate to Northumbria.
Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised. Or perhaps not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35059767
He may have a point on governance, but like Blair criticising Corbyn, I'm not sure him saying is persuasive.
SkyNews
Gun Groups to stage fake shooting on campus that previously experienced a mass shooting
http://news.sky.com/story/1603371/gun-groups-to-stage-fake-shooting-at-campus
Mr. 1983, doesn't Cameron want a veto (or comparable power/protection) for non-eurozone countries to prevent the eurozone gerrymandering the wider EU to its advantage?
"A new poll of Republican primary and caucus voters by Zogby Analytics
Trump leads among self-identified Republicans (33% to Rubio’s 16%, Carson’s 12%, Bush’s 8%, and Cruz’s 6%), but wallops everyone with 56% among independents (followed by Carson’s 15% and Cruz’s 9%)."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2015/12/09/zogby-analytics-trump-leads-by-25-points-over-nearest-rival/
Let us be honest, Cameron's renegotiation has been a sham from the start.