I wonder if he's ever railed against austerity whilst taking £82k a year?
His allowances add up because of the jobs he does. But why should he be paid public money for chairing the Labour Group on the local government association. Presumably there is a Tory group and a LD group. Do they have a chairman paid out of public money? The real question is do we need a local government association, what does it actually do or more to the point what does it actually nachieve?
13% of Syrian refugees feel "positive" or "very positive" about ISIS. That means about 130,000 of the 1m refugees now entering Germany, and the EU, are potential ISIS sympathisers.
13% of Syrian refugees feel "positive" or "very positive" about ISIS. That means about 130,000 of the 1m refugees now entering Germany, and the EU, are potential ISIS sympathisers.
There's been an argument on here that tories in Oldham will vote Labour to keep Corbyn in place, I don't think the electorate is as sophisticated as that. I'd say tories will abstain and enjoy the fight.
That was me. I'd now vote UKIP if I lived in Oldham.
The country doesn't need Corbyn, Dave is at his best when he's under pressure.
Corbyn will never put Dave under pressure.
I take your point but Cameron is only good at winning elections, he's a very ordinary PM as the next few years will prove.
ordinary is better than Brown and Miliband and ordinary ranks miles ahead of Corbyn.
Milliband was never PM and comparing him with Brown sets the bar very low. Of course I realise that for tories what he does as PM is irrelevant, he is PM, nothing else matters.
Poor old Farage can't even get himself elected as an MP. Where does he sit on the spectrum of failure?
A predictable but irrelevant reply. Even his critics must accept he has changed the face of politics in many respects and made a far bigger impact than 99% of MPs.
Farage has certainly changed forever the way we look at a politician resigning.
Other than that, another low-grade ego who doesn't know when to quit.
Its amazing how people outside of ukip are far more concerned with his resignation than those within. He's all over the UK addressing audiences of 1000 at a time, I can't think of any other low grade ego doing that.
George Galloway?
Really? Which political audiences does he address?
he does 'An evening with' shows. I can't imagine those turning up do so for his song-and-dance routine.
Given the amount of stick the government will take over this it plainly isn't a vanity project. I'm more or less certain Cameron would like to say no, but the people who look after his and other ministers security are probably saying it is unavoidable and long overdue.
If David Cameron wants his own plane, he should follow Ronald Reagan's line in explaining why he did not go to church. It worked, as Reagan captured the Christian vote and defeated a president who actually taught Sunday school from the White House. CCHQ must point to Cameron nobly protecting the general public from being blown up by terrorists targeting the PM as he strolled through customs at Heathrow airport.
For those too lazy to Google:
Reagan attended church only once in his eight years of presidency. Can a man who does not worship God be called Christian?
When asked about his lack of church attendance during the 1984 presidential debate with former Vice President Walter Mondale, Reagan said he feared endangering his own life and those of others: "I pose a threat to several hundred people if I got to church. I know all the threats that are made against me."
And that was after the assassination attempt on him, during which several other people got seriously injured.
Reagan was not a churchgoer beforehand. However, that is not really the point -- this is a good spin line that Cameron should adopt *because* there is a kernel of truth.
"Just because the Doctors are united in their cause it doesn't mean it is right and they risk losing public support as patients operations are cancelled and patients die as a result of the strike."
Unless we don't trust the wisdom of 98% of junior doctors (which I hope for all our sakes we do) then it's obvious that their case is watertight.
A hell of a non sequitur there, Roger. I trust doctors on medical matters. This isn't a medical matter; it's a financial/management matter.
Given the amount of stick the government will take over this it plainly isn't a vanity project. I'm more or less certain Cameron would like to say no, but the people who look after his and other ministers security are probably saying it is unavoidable and long overdue.
If David Cameron wants his own plane, he should follow Ronald Reagan's line in explaining why he did not go to church. It worked, as Reagan captured the Christian vote and defeated a president who actually taught Sunday school from the White House. CCHQ must point to Cameron nobly protecting the general public from being blown up by terrorists targeting the PM as he strolled through customs at Heathrow airport.
For those too lazy to Google:
Reagan attended church only once in his eight years of presidency. Can a man who does not worship God be called Christian?
When asked about his lack of church attendance during the 1984 presidential debate with former Vice President Walter Mondale, Reagan said he feared endangering his own life and those of others: "I pose a threat to several hundred people if I got to church. I know all the threats that are made against me."
And that was after the assassination attempt on him, during which several other people got seriously injured.
Reagan was not a churchgoer beforehand. However, that is not really the point -- this is a good spin line that Cameron should adopt *because* there is a kernel of truth.
Why do you want him to spin the public a line? You are the public. I don't understand why you'd want yourself to be misled.
"Just because the Doctors are united in their cause it doesn't mean it is right and they risk losing public support as patients operations are cancelled and patients die as a result of the strike."
Unless we don't trust the wisdom of 98% of junior doctors (which I hope for all our sakes we do) then it's obvious that their case is watertight.
A hell of a non sequitur there, Roger. I trust doctors on medical matters. This isn't a medical matter; it's a financial/management matter.
I'm not sure I do trust them on medical matters. They're only human. How often do doctors get it right from a cursory 5 minute examination?
If it's something potentially serious, even if I'm told it's not, I ask for referral to a specialist for a second opinion.
My lefty friends who backed Corbyn out of 80% despair and 20% pitiful hope are now spitting blood at his Islamohugging feebleness, and general inability to oppose anything the Tories do. They now hate him more than they hate Cameron. Intriguing.
The psychology is obvious - they don't want to admit that they were mind-blowingly stupid all along, and that the Blairites, Brownites, Tories, and everyone else who warned about Corbyn were right all along, so they need to create a narrative that they've been stabbed in the back. We'll see a lot of that in coming months - we are just at the start of that phase.
They just thought it was a grander version of "Tories4Palmer"....
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
France could face the risk of chemical or bacterial warfare in its fight against Islamist militants, Manuel Valls, the FR said on Thursday.
"We must not rule anything out. I say it with all the precautions needed. But we know and bear in mind that there is also a risk of chemical or bacteriological weapons," Mr Valls told parliament.
"The macabre imagination of the masterminds is limitless," he said in a speech in the lower house of parliament meant to gain approval to an extension of the state of emergency.
Context is everything. Politician pulls every theoretical risk from the air in the hope his request for extended emergency powers wont receive too much scrutiny - shocker!
And now it's the headline story on BBC News online.
It'd be good to know if there's some hard intelligence behind this - it doesn't sound like it. But he's right; there is a risk. The question is how big that risk is, if it is in any way quantifiable.
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
The Religion of Peace is not having a good week...
Even worse for me is the previous handling of the crimes by the Bradford Police. When is that particular Augean stable going to get a clean out?
The problem is if all the laws of this country were rigorously applied in Bradford there would probably be disturbances to put it mildly.
I'm not sure 'whether people object to it' should be a consideration in the exercise of the law.
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But if some large hints were to be dropped that a massive operation was underway, perhaps some would be inclined to seek refuge elsewhere if they had the means to do so.
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
The French security forces did extremely well to take out that lot without serious casualties of their own.
The Religion of Peace is not having a good week...
Even worse for me is the previous handling of the crimes by the Bradford Police. When is that particular Augean stable going to get a clean out?
The problem is if all the laws of this country were rigorously applied in Bradford there would probably be disturbances to put it mildly.
I'm not sure 'whether people object to it' should be a consideration in the exercise of the law.
Nothing to do with Bradford but FGM is illegal yet we know that thousands of women in the UK have been subjected to it. The law isn't being applied in the way it would be if white girls were the victims.
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
ISIS seem to be very determined to make as many enemies as possible. Murdering the Chinese hostage is the latest example. That probably removes the last obstacle to getting a strong UN resolution.
Well, yes. ISIS actively WANT as much division between Islam and the Rest of the World as possible. This includes China - which has a restive Muslim population in Uighur.
They are purposely seeking global religious war, to bring on Koranically-predicted apocalypse. The envisage Islam triumphing amid the ruins.
It's mad but it's what they believe, and once you accept their worldview all their actions make sense, indeed they are often "clever".
However they tread a fine line. They also want to establish a genuine Caliphate - a true Islamic state encompassing as much of the Middle East as possible. Therefore a land invasion by enemy powers which extinguished them would be calamitous, in their eyes, at least until they have the strength to resist. So at the moment they have to go so far, but no further.
For that reason I doubt they would launch nukes or other WMDS, yet. But mass shootings and general terror, hell yes.
That is why it is so important to get back the territory they have seized - to snuff out their state before it gets more power and to show them up as failures. Success will attract others to their cause. Failure has fewer friends.
France could face the risk of chemical or bacterial warfare in its fight against Islamist militants, Manuel Valls, the FR said on Thursday.
"We must not rule anything out. I say it with all the precautions needed. But we know and bear in mind that there is also a risk of chemical or bacteriological weapons," Mr Valls told parliament.
"The macabre imagination of the masterminds is limitless," he said in a speech in the lower house of parliament meant to gain approval to an extension of the state of emergency.
Context is everything. Politician pulls every theoretical risk from the air in the hope his request for extended emergency powers wont receive too much scrutiny - shocker!
And now it's the headline story on BBC News online.
It'd be good to know if there's some hard intelligence behind this - it doesn't sound like it. But he's right; there is a risk. The question is how big that risk is, if it is in any way quantifiable.
Just as there is a risk aliens will attack earth
ELIZA, I think you need some alterations to your risk-quantifier module.
Wow, 98% vote in favour of the doctors strike on a 76% turnout. How's that for democratic legitimacy?
So much for the Hippocratic Oath. 98% of inexperienced quacks are more interested in their wallets and comfort than patient welfare. Spoilt brats.
It's the 'Me,Me,Me' generation, schooled under Labour.
Let's give you a 20% pay cut at work. I'm sure you'll gladly accept it as it will benefit other employees - none of that 'Me', 'Me', 'Me' nonsense.
That has happened to lots of people at my place of work over the years. Lots of them. Without any negotiation. And the choice was to take it, move - assuming you could find another better paid job, or take redundancy.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
I thought we had gone too many hours without another Labour disaster. Will be an interesting "clarification". I didn't want this to happen, I kow nothing about any letter, despite there being a picture of me grinning while holding the letter up to the camera...
Absolute classic First Ministers Questions today, highlighting how utterly inept the opposition is in Scotland.
Kezia Dugdale decided to use all four of her questions to blame the SNP for... poor people getting cancer more. It could only be an "attack" that a ridiculously left wing reality deniers like SLAB could even think would have any traction.
But worse followed when, just before Ruthie's two questions, Sturgeon advised that Ruthie had inadvertently emailed her the Tories bullet points for the day, thus Ruthie's question's were batted away with a much richer array of stats than would normally be available.
And to think that on here, there are still zoomers on here who believe that Ruthie is the answer to the SNP in Scotland.
Oh and Jackie Ballie got a question claiming that 94,000 households in Scotland were facing fuel poverty and that this represented 2 million Scots.
You'd think with 21 people per household, body heat alone would keep the places roasty warm.
13% of Syrian refugees feel "positive" or "very positive" about ISIS. That means about 130,000 of the 1m refugees now entering Germany, and the EU, are potential ISIS sympathisers.
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
The French security forces did extremely well to take out that lot without serious casualties of their own.
They've been quite impressive over the past few days.
It does beg the question what they were doing before.
It's interesting that the Government are increasingly putting up Sarah Woollaston as their spokesperson (on WatO at the moment) rather than Hunt. Wise move, I'd say.
ISIS seem to be very determined to make as many enemies as possible. Murdering the Chinese hostage is the latest example. That probably removes the last obstacle to getting a strong UN resolution.
Well, yes. ISIS actively WANT as much division between Islam and the Rest of the World as possible. This includes China - which has a restive Muslim population in Uighur.
They are purposely seeking global religious war, to bring on Koranically-predicted apocalypse. The envisage Islam triumphing amid the ruins.
It's mad but it's what they believe, and once you accept their worldview all their actions make sense, indeed they are often "clever".
However they tread a fine line. They also want to establish a genuine Caliphate - a true Islamic state encompassing as much of the Middle East as possible. Therefore a land invasion by enemy powers which extinguished them would be calamitous, in their eyes, at least until they have the strength to resist. So at the moment they have to go so far, but no further.
For that reason I doubt they would launch nukes or other WMDS, yet. But mass shootings and general terror, hell yes.
That is why it is so important to get back the territory they have seized - to snuff out their state before it gets more power and to show them up as failures. Success will attract others to their cause. Failure has fewer friends.
If Rubio wins (and he'd first have to win the Republican nomination) I could see a US led ground invasion of ISIS terrority to do precisely that by Summer 2017.
Even Hillary, to be fair, would be less used less than Obama. Terrority gives them resources, shelter and credibility.
They've been quite impressive over the past few days.
It does beg the question what they were doing before.
I don't think that one can really say; they might have been doing a lot and successfully thwarting a whole series of attacks. It's the old 'the bad guys only need to get lucky once' problem.
Alternatively, it may be that there were vital signs which should not have been missed.
Mr. Urquhart, Labour cannot maintain this rate of total idiocy. If they try, the party will disintegrate.
In the days after terrorist attacks near our shores, the Labour leader has said he disagrees with shoot to kill for terrorists (and u-turned), and the Shadow Chancellor has apparently (in April of this year) said MI5 ought to be disbanded.
If someone had predicted this a few months ago, they would've been the subject of substantial mockery and mirth.
Absolute classic First Ministers Questions today, highlighting how utterly inept the opposition is in Scotland.
Kezia Dugdale decided to use all four of her questions to blame the SNP for... poor people getting cancer more. It could only be an "attack" that a ridiculously left wing reality deniers like SLAB could even think would have any traction.
But worse followed when, just before Ruthie's two questions, Sturgeon advised that Ruthie had inadvertently emailed her the Tories bullet points for the day, thus Ruthie's question's were batted away with a much richer array of stats than would normally be available.
And to think that on here, there are still zoomers on here who believe that Ruthie is the answer to the SNP in Scotland.
Oh and Jackie Ballie got a question claiming that 94,000 households in Scotland were facing fuel poverty and that this represented 2 million Scots.
You'd think with 21 people per household, body heat alone would keep the places roasty warm.
Hahahaha - brilliant! I hope she milked it for all it was worth - Salmond would have relished that.
Story on the ringleader's death: "His body was found riddled with bullets and shrapnel in the shattered apartment in the northern suburb.
However, the cause of death was a heart attack brought on by a strongly worded letter written by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, found clutched in his dead hand." [I may have made up the second sentence].
I happened to notice that the UK popcorn industry has grown 50% in 5 years (old article).
Further growth guaranteed...
IRI data show that overall popcorn sales jumped 38pc to £87.4m in the year to December 6, 2014, making it the fastest growing sub-category in bagged snacks, The Grocer reported. This echoes a recent report from market research firm Mintel, which shows that UK sales of popcorn rose by 40pc to £105m last year. Meanwhile, the value of the crisps market dropped by 2pc, with Walkers suffering a 4.4pc slump over the past year.
Story on the ringleader's death: "His body was found riddled with bullets and shrapnel in the shattered apartment in the northern suburb.
However, the cause of death was a heart attack brought on by a strongly worded letter written by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, found clutched in his dead hand." [I may have made up the second sentence].
ISIS seem to be very determined to make as many enemies as possible. Murdering the Chinese hostage is the latest example. That probably removes the last obstacle to getting a strong UN resolution.
Well, yes. ISIS actively WANT as much division between Islam and the Rest of the World as possible. This includes China - which has a restive Muslim population in Uighur.
They are purposely seeking global religious war, to bring on Koranically-predicted apocalypse. The envisage Islam triumphing amid the ruins.
It's mad but it's what they believe, and once you accept their worldview all their actions make sense, indeed they are often "clever".
However they tread a fine line. They also want to establish a genuine Caliphate - a true Islamic state encompassing as much of the Middle East as possible. Therefore a land invasion by enemy powers which extinguished them would be calamitous, in their eyes, at least until they have the strength to resist. So at the moment they have to go so far, but no further.
For that reason I doubt they would launch nukes or other WMDS, yet. But mass shootings and general terror, hell yes.
That is why it is so important to get back the territory they have seized - to snuff out their state before it gets more power and to show them up as failures. Success will attract others to their cause. Failure has fewer friends.
If Rubio wins (and he'd first have to win the Republican nomination) I could see a US led ground invasion of ISIS terrority to do precisely that by Summer 2017.
Even Hillary, to be fair, would be less used less than Obama. Terrority gives them resources, shelter and credibility.
It will certainly be a key question when the campaign gets properly going. I'm pretty sure Hillary will be more in favour of determined action than Obama. To be fair to him he was elected on a clear ticket of end of Iraqi war and no more such adventures. I can see why he is determined to stay out for the last 12 months of his office.
Wow, 98% vote in favour of the doctors strike on a 76% turnout. How's that for democratic legitimacy?
So much for the Hippocratic Oath. 98% of inexperienced quacks are more interested in their wallets and comfort than patient welfare. Spoilt brats.
It's the 'Me,Me,Me' generation, schooled under Labour.
Let's give you a 20% pay cut at work. I'm sure you'll gladly accept it as it will benefit other employees - none of that 'Me', 'Me', 'Me' nonsense.
That has happened to lots of people at my place of work over the years. Lots of them. Without any negotiation. And the choice was to take it, move - assuming you could find another better paid job, or take redundancy.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
Sounds like you need a new job. Thankfully the doctors don't have your self-evidently terrible negotiation skills.
My lefty friends who backed Corbyn out of 80% despair and 20% pitiful hope are now spitting blood at his Islamohugging feebleness, and general inability to oppose anything the Tories do. They now hate him more than they hate Cameron. Intriguing.
The psychology is obvious - they don't want to admit that they were mind-blowingly stupid all along, and that the Blairites, Brownites, Tories, and everyone else who warned about Corbyn were right all along, so they need to create a narrative that they've been stabbed in the back. We'll see a lot of that in coming months - we are just at the start of that phase.
Wow, 98% vote in favour of the doctors strike on a 76% turnout. How's that for democratic legitimacy?
So much for the Hippocratic Oath. 98% of inexperienced quacks are more interested in their wallets and comfort than patient welfare. Spoilt brats.
It's the 'Me,Me,Me' generation, schooled under Labour.
Let's give you a 20% pay cut at work. I'm sure you'll gladly accept it as it will benefit other employees - none of that 'Me', 'Me', 'Me' nonsense.
That has happened to lots of people at my place of work over the years. Lots of them. Without any negotiation. And the choice was to take it, move - assuming you could find another better paid job, or take redundancy.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
Sounds like you need a new job. Thankfully the doctors don't have your self-evidently terrible negotiation skills.
How many patients do you think will die as a result of strike action?
robert webb tore up his labour membership last night... explaining why here..
labour luvvies even leaving lefties.... LOL
Robert Webb @arobertwebb 7m But heart not in it now, any of it. Obvs lots of decent people voted for JC; I think they made a mistake but wish them well. That's it (4/4)
Robert Webb @arobertwebb 9m There's probably more to it than that & maybe I'll try to write about it next time I feel going 10 rounds with the Corbytrons (3/4)
Robert Webb @arobertwebb 9m Lots of reasons, none of them especially noble, eg giving the likes of Seumas Milne £11 a month makes me feel sick. (2/4)
Robert Webb @arobertwebb Regarding the slight ooby-doo, didn't mean to make some big deal announcement, was just chatting, albeit loudly in public (1/4)
There seems to be some confusion over what the final words of the female suicide bomber were: either "help me" or "God is great" according to different reports.
The French security forces did extremely well to take out that lot without serious casualties of their own.
They've been quite impressive over the past few days.
It does beg the question what they were doing before.
Wow, 98% vote in favour of the doctors strike on a 76% turnout. How's that for democratic legitimacy?
So much for the Hippocratic Oath. 98% of inexperienced quacks are more interested in their wallets and comfort than patient welfare. Spoilt brats.
It's the 'Me,Me,Me' generation, schooled under Labour.
Let's give you a 20% pay cut at work. I'm sure you'll gladly accept it as it will benefit other employees - none of that 'Me', 'Me', 'Me' nonsense.
That has happened to lots of people at my place of work over the years. Lots of them. Without any negotiation. And the choice was to take it, move - assuming you could find another better paid job, or take redundancy.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
Sounds like you need a new job. Thankfully the doctors don't have your self-evidently terrible negotiation skills.
They certainly need a reality check. A sense of professionalism too, if they want to be thought of as professionals. And a recognition that their salaries are paid for by others' taxes. Others who earn less, have less job security, have endured far more hardship than doctors and who depend on them.
So how about this. How about we all agree who and what is really making us “less safe”? It is the men who want to kill us, who are making us less safe. Who want to gun us down in our restaurants because we are “pagans”. Who want to blow our limbs off when we are in our concert halls because we are “prostitutes”. Who want to wreak havoc and carnage not as part of some “cause” – however misguided – but because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
They are to blame for Paris. And we need to say so. Again, and again, and again.
So how about this. How about we all agree who and what is really making us “less safe”? It is the men who want to kill us, who are making us less safe. Who want to gun us down in our restaurants because we are “pagans”. Who want to blow our limbs off when we are in our concert halls because we are “prostitutes”. Who want to wreak havoc and carnage not as part of some “cause” – however misguided – but because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
They are to blame for Paris. And we need to say so. Again, and again, and again.
Absolutely blistering. And right. And will be ignored by those who need to read and understand it.
So how about this. How about we all agree who and what is really making us “less safe”? It is the men who want to kill us, who are making us less safe. Who want to gun us down in our restaurants because we are “pagans”. Who want to blow our limbs off when we are in our concert halls because we are “prostitutes”. Who want to wreak havoc and carnage not as part of some “cause” – however misguided – but because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
They are to blame for Paris. And we need to say so. Again, and again, and again.
Why oh why do the modern commentariat continually pedal this bullsh*t. OF COURSE the perpetrators bear full responsibility for their actions, and those responsible for Iraq bear full responsibility for creating the right conditions for them to do so. Blame is not a single peice of pie that if you try and give someone a bit it reduces everyone else's portion. Anyone with more than two brain cells to keep each other company undestands this.
Wow, 98% vote in favour of the doctors strike on a 76% turnout. How's that for democratic legitimacy?
So much for the Hippocratic Oath. 98% of inexperienced quacks are more interested in their wallets and comfort than patient welfare. Spoilt brats.
It's the 'Me,Me,Me' generation, schooled under Labour.
Let's give you a 20% pay cut at work. I'm sure you'll gladly accept it as it will benefit other employees - none of that 'Me', 'Me', 'Me' nonsense.
That has happened to lots of people at my place of work over the years. Lots of them. Without any negotiation. And the choice was to take it, move - assuming you could find another better paid job, or take redundancy.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
Sounds like you need a new job. Thankfully the doctors don't have your self-evidently terrible negotiation skills.
They certainly need a reality check. A sense of professionalism too, if they want to be thought of as professionals. And a recognition that their salaries are paid for by others' taxes. Others who earn less, have less job security, have endured far more hardship than doctors and who depend on them.
Junior doctors are a posh version of the militant Tube drivers, but with a greater sense of entitlement.
So how about this. How about we all agree who and what is really making us “less safe”? It is the men who want to kill us, who are making us less safe. Who want to gun us down in our restaurants because we are “pagans”. Who want to blow our limbs off when we are in our concert halls because we are “prostitutes”. Who want to wreak havoc and carnage not as part of some “cause” – however misguided – but because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
They are to blame for Paris. And we need to say so. Again, and again, and again.
Why oh why do the modern commentariat continually pedal this bullsh*t. OF COURSE the perpetrators bear full responsibility for their actions, and those responsible for Iraq bear full responsibility for creating the right conditions for them to do so. Blame is not a single peice of pie that if you try and give someone a bit it reduces everyone else's portion. Anyone with more than two brain cells to keep each other company undestands this.
Way to miss the point, Lucky. Then again, Kudos for not claiming that Paris was a false flag operation by Mossad.
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Presumably there is a Tory group and a LD group. Do they have a chairman paid out of public money?
The real question is do we need a local government association, what does it actually do or more to the point what does it actually nachieve?
Simon Carr @simonsketch 2m2 minutes ago
France: Only 30 Muslims show up for rally against Paris jihad attacks http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/france-only-30-muslims-show-up-for-rally-against-paris-jihad-attacks …
If it's something potentially serious, even if I'm told it's not, I ask for referral to a specialist for a second opinion.
Counter arguments only work if the other side are at all interested in listening.
It'd be good to know if there's some hard intelligence behind this - it doesn't sound like it. But he's right; there is a risk. The question is how big that risk is, if it is in any way quantifiable.
Just as there is a risk aliens will attack earth
A depressing but true comment that shows we are far closer to the start of this than the end.
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But if some large hints were to be dropped that a massive operation was underway, perhaps some would be inclined to seek refuge elsewhere if they had the means to do so.
ELIZA, I think you need some alterations to your risk-quantifier module.
If the west really wanted to, I mean really wanted to destroy ISIS, it could do it tomorrow.
Lots of people in lots of industries over the last 7/8 years have endured real and nominal pay cuts. Why do doctors think that they alone should be insulated from the consequences of the state running a deficit every year and having to live - like the rest of us - within its means?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H&utm_term=138230&subid=12968901&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
Kezia Dugdale decided to use all four of her questions to blame the SNP for... poor people getting cancer more. It could only be an "attack" that a ridiculously left wing reality deniers like SLAB could even think would have any traction.
But worse followed when, just before Ruthie's two questions, Sturgeon advised that Ruthie had inadvertently emailed her the Tories bullet points for the day, thus Ruthie's question's were batted away with a much richer array of stats than would normally be available.
And to think that on here, there are still zoomers on here who believe that Ruthie is the answer to the SNP in Scotland.
Oh and Jackie Ballie got a question claiming that 94,000 households in Scotland were facing fuel poverty and that this represented 2 million Scots.
You'd think with 21 people per household, body heat alone would keep the places roasty warm.
It does beg the question what they were doing before.
We hope platitudes and pretending its not happening will just make it go away.
Even Hillary, to be fair, would be less used less than Obama. Terrority gives them resources, shelter and credibility.
Alternatively, it may be that there were vital signs which should not have been missed.
Impossible to tell from the outside.
In the days after terrorist attacks near our shores, the Labour leader has said he disagrees with shoot to kill for terrorists (and u-turned), and the Shadow Chancellor has apparently (in April of this year) said MI5 ought to be disbanded.
If someone had predicted this a few months ago, they would've been the subject of substantial mockery and mirth.
https://twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/667315950690004992
"His body was found riddled with bullets and shrapnel in the shattered apartment in the northern suburb.
However, the cause of death was a heart attack brought on by a strongly worded letter written by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, found clutched in his dead hand." [I may have made up the second sentence].
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34867615
I happened to notice that the UK popcorn industry has grown 50% in 5 years (old article).
Further growth guaranteed... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11809259/Popcorn-explosion-drives-growth-in-UK-snacks-market.html
UK's National Counter Terrorism Security Office publishes new advice on what to do in gun attack in wake of terrorist atrocities in French capital"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12004769/What-to-do-in-Paris-style-attack-Should-you-run-and-hide-or-play-dead.html
Why?
Why does you love hurt so much?
Don't know why
labour luvvies even leaving lefties.... LOL
Robert Webb
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But heart not in it now, any of it. Obvs lots of decent people voted for JC; I think they made a mistake but wish them well. That's it (4/4)
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There's probably more to it than that & maybe I'll try to write about it next time I feel going 10 rounds with the Corbytrons (3/4)
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Lots of reasons, none of them especially noble, eg giving the likes of Seumas Milne £11 a month makes me feel sick. (2/4)
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Regarding the slight ooby-doo, didn't mean to make some big deal announcement, was just chatting, albeit loudly in public (1/4)
GCHQ is a great unsung advantage.
'Sounds like you need a new job. Thankfully the doctors don't have your self-evidently terrible negotiation skills.'
Negotiation skills not required when you have a bottomless pit of taxpayers money to fund you,a militant trade union & complete job security.
https://twitter.com/redbrasco/status/667333068936642560
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34865129
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12005444/The-Iraq-war-does-not-absolve-the-Paris-terrorists.html
So how about this. How about we all agree who and what is really making us “less safe”? It is the men who want to kill us, who are making us less safe. Who want to gun us down in our restaurants because we are “pagans”. Who want to blow our limbs off when we are in our concert halls because we are “prostitutes”. Who want to wreak havoc and carnage not as part of some “cause” – however misguided – but because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
They are to blame for Paris. And we need to say so. Again, and again, and again.
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/667346524951740417
@wallaceme: Labour say McDonnell thought he was posing with "principles...not the demands". The paper is headed "OUR DEMANDS". https://t.co/veTO58uEwm
@wallaceme: How long before McDonnell retreats to the defence that he cannot read English?
http://kaleidoscope.redbull.com
Should I watch the first Hunger Games on Film4?
Or Wayne's World on "Five-Star"?
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3651/Two-in-three-disagree-that-government-has-the-right-longterm-policies-for-public-services.aspx
Two-point, not three point? Left-hand pie-chart?EDIT - seen your correction
Note for Maria Eagle: Livingstone's favourite Islamist favours beating women.