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  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773
    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,296
    JackW said:

    JohnO said:

    watford30 said:

    Noticed on the BBC Election 2015 report for Oxfordshire that Cllr Hudspeth "accompanied Mr Cameron at the Witney count" - see photo in the link:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-england-32639375

    Not sure that's the warmest of body language between them even then.

    I also noted that of course Oxford East is solid Labour, so when the PM cc'd his letter to "Oxfordshire MPs" he presumably cc'd it to the Labour chappie too and not just his fellow Oxon Tories?

    Knowing that the letter was, presumably, going to a Labour MP who could have had a field day with it, it's an even more bizarre correspondence. (And it seems it was the Tory Council leader who put it in the public domain, not the Labour chap)

    Oxford CC, where councillors voted themselves a very generous 19% increase in their allowances whilst cutting services. Says it all.
    Alas, Mr. Taffys I fear that the fat cats at the top taking fecking huge salaries/allowances whilst cutting services to the plebs does say it all. However, what can be done about it? Who will stand up for the little people who are being shafted from every direction?
    Something of an exageration to claim that councillors are fat cats taking huge salaries/allowances.

    I wonder if Mr HurstLlama is aware of councillors' actual salaries and allowances and their work load, especially at County Council level?
    Each Oxfordshire County Councillor receives a basic £10,000 allowance. The Leader enjoys an additional special responsibility allowance of £29,000 making a total of around £40,000 for this gentleman. These are the amounts as of December 2014.

    I don't know when the whopping 19% increase took place....but it doesn't matter - it is/was indefensible.

    In my own Borough Council in Surrey, we froze all allowances for three years and then increased them for the last two by less than inflation at 1% and 1.5% as recommended by the independent panel.
    Unintended travel allowances on the railways .... ?

    But I get a third off with my senior (no relation to Mark) railcard.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,240

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @cathynewman: Had 3 of us hitting phones trying to find a @LibDems peer prepared to defend @LordRennard but no takers...Speaking to party member shortly
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773
    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    antifrank said:

    In which EU ideas, pushed through at great political cost, crash on the shores of reality:

    https://t.co/l4FspHhfh5

    "European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker chided leaders for their slow take-up of previously agreed plans to spread the refugee burden more equally.

    Mr Juncker said he was “not happy at all” with the implementation of the EU’s flagship relocation policy, in which 160,000 people will be shared out among member states. So far, only 147 have been relocated. “If we continue at this rate, we will there by [the year] 2101,” Mr Juncker complained."

    I can't see that particular volley causing the governments in central and eastern Europe to fret unduly.

    Meanwhile, Turkey is to be paid to be enlisted into the drive to reduce migrant numbers.

    Were these plans actually agreed? Merkel makes a giant unilateral error but expects everyone to help solve her problem (now everyone's problem).. The problem with the EU is that the solution to an undesirable situation is another undesirable situation.

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,739
    perdix said:

    antifrank said:

    In which EU ideas, pushed through at great political cost, crash on the shores of reality:

    https://t.co/l4FspHhfh5

    "European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker chided leaders for their slow take-up of previously agreed plans to spread the refugee burden more equally.

    Mr Juncker said he was “not happy at all” with the implementation of the EU’s flagship relocation policy, in which 160,000 people will be shared out among member states. So far, only 147 have been relocated. “If we continue at this rate, we will there by [the year] 2101,” Mr Juncker complained."

    I can't see that particular volley causing the governments in central and eastern Europe to fret unduly.

    Meanwhile, Turkey is to be paid to be enlisted into the drive to reduce migrant numbers.

    Were these plans actually agreed? Merkel makes a giant unilateral error but expects everyone to help solve her problem (now everyone's problem).. The problem with the EU is that the solution to an undesirable situation is another undesirable situation.

    Apparently so. And the UK was expected to stump up £400 million towards it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    perdix said:

    antifrank said:

    In which EU ideas, pushed through at great political cost, crash on the shores of reality:

    https://t.co/l4FspHhfh5

    "European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker chided leaders for their slow take-up of previously agreed plans to spread the refugee burden more equally.

    Mr Juncker said he was “not happy at all” with the implementation of the EU’s flagship relocation policy, in which 160,000 people will be shared out among member states. So far, only 147 have been relocated. “If we continue at this rate, we will there by [the year] 2101,” Mr Juncker complained."

    I can't see that particular volley causing the governments in central and eastern Europe to fret unduly.

    Meanwhile, Turkey is to be paid to be enlisted into the drive to reduce migrant numbers.

    Were these plans actually agreed? Merkel makes a giant unilateral error but expects everyone to help solve her problem (now everyone's problem).. The problem with the EU is that the solution to an undesirable situation is another undesirable situation.

    Apparently so. And the UK was expected to stump up £400 million towards it.
    Did we?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773
    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
    All while Labour continue to talk amongst themselves. :p
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,240

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Then Labour is even ore screwed than I thought.

    Well done one being one of the unthinking people who will destroy Labour.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773
    RobD said:

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
    OK in business class seats and running 10k though apparently.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,354

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
    So it is confirmed. Labour is indeed the Starks. And we all know what happens to them.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Then Labour is even ore screwed than I thought.

    Well done one being one of the unthinking people who will destroy Labour.
    Danczuk tries to do that every day though.

    PB Tories for Danczuk says it all really.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,240

    RobD said:

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
    OK in business class seats and running 10k though apparently.
    Did he say it was 'ok' in business class seats, or at least bearable?

    An ex-colleague of mine worked in the IT side of a company, and he had periodic episodes of extremely bad back pain. During which time he could stand and walk about, but not sit for long periods. It led to him pacing around at the back of the rooms during meetings when it was bad.

    Backs are weird. In fact, they're just like Labour supporters. ;)
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,741
    edited 2015 12
    Two key votes next week on votes at 16.

    Tuesday: Commons: Vote to overturn Lords amendment giving vote at 16 for Local Elections

    Wednesday: Lords: Vote on amendment to give vote at 16 for EU referendum

    Will be very interesting to watch the Lords turnout again - will it be very high again as it was for Tax Credits and IVR. It was far lower when they passed the amendment re vote at 16 for Local Elections.

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/lords/lords-divisions/?date=2015-Oct-26&itemId=1&session=2015-May-18
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    Talk of the devil.....

    'Lib Dem to call special conference to discuss party's inaction over Lord Rennard.' says party spokeswoman on sexual harassment

    You'd think they might have more pressing concerns
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
    Sounds like the NHS isn't able to cope with the immigration avalanche.As predicted.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,240

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Then Labour is even ore screwed than I thought.

    Well done one being one of the unthinking people who will destroy Labour.
    Danczuk tries to do that every day though.

    PB Tories for Danczuk says it all really.
    I'm not a Tory.

    That in itself is telling: anyone not totally sold into Corbyn's brave new world is now a Tory. Anyone who dares to breathe a word of dissent against the Great Leader is PNG in the eyes of Labour's idiocracy.

    We're all Tories now comrade! ;)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,641
    edited 2015 12

    surbiton said:


    The same "power" could also help Europe do the same rather than constantly moaning !

    So you are suggesting we should invade Europe, lay siege to their cities, execute any trouble makers and then make them all learn English. Oh and then chop off Spain and Portugal and evict any Catholics from Northern Europe and make them walk to the newly formed Catholic country. After which we pull out and write letters to the Times about how ungrateful the newly independent Europeans are.

    It's a thought I suppose but I am not sure the Germans would go for it.
    Well, you* Brits chopped up Ireland!

    *I mean "we", sorry - oops! :lol:
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    RobD said:

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
    OK in business class seats and running 10k though apparently.
    Because you can lie down. That didn't answer my question either.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233
    Roger said:

    Talk of the devil.....

    'Lib Dem to call special conference to discuss party's inaction over Lord Rennard.' says party spokeswoman on sexual harassment

    You'd think they might have more pressing concerns

    You realise that by conference they mean "let's meet at the pub on Friday"? :D
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233
    MikeL said:

    Two key votes next week on votes at 16.

    Tuesday: Commons: Vote to overturn Lords amendment giving vote at 16 for Local Elections

    Wednesday: Lords: Vote on amendment to give vote at 16 for EU referendum

    Will be very interesting to watch the Lords turnout again - will it be very high again as it was for Tax Credits and IVR. It was far lower when they passed the amendment re vote at 16 for Local Elections.

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/lords/lords-divisions/?date=2015-Oct-26&itemId=1&session=2015-May-18

    Let's hope the Tory peers are whipped mercilessly.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
    Sounds like the NHS isn't able to cope with the immigration avalanche.As predicted.
    NHS Acute Sector isnt able to cope.

    We agree.

    As usual you have missed the reason why though.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,418
    For those who might have missed it, there has been another avalanche of job losses on Teesside today - the potash mine and HMRC. Northern Powerhouse.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,773
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
    OK in business class seats and running 10k though apparently.
    Because you can lie down. That didn't answer my question either.
    PB Tories defending Danczuk answers mine though.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Scott_P said:

    @cathynewman: Had 3 of us hitting phones trying to find a @LibDems peer prepared to defend @LordRennard but no takers...Speaking to party member shortly

    The smelly stuff is hitting the fan over this one amongst the Lib Dem members.
    On air resignation on C4 News.
    "Lord Grabbyhands" http://miss-s-b.dreamwidth.org/1693447.html
    "Petition for a Special Lib Dem Conference" to abolish the peers flot on their Exec- already at half way to the required number (200).
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1o30FTQxirZmReej0M5PuI2tMIWr1ayJOtXlxWOqrlnk/viewform
    Most spitting blood over this decision.
    http://www.libdemvoice.org/chris-rennard-elected-to-federal-executive-by-lib-dem-peers-48220.html
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,184

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.
    But the pressures are now spreading more to other parts of the system. Once in hospital, doctors are finding it difficult to discharge patients because the support services in the community needed for the most vulnerable are not available.
    Waits for diagnostic tests are lengthening and the key cancer target has been missed for well over a year.
    Even on routine treatment - hips and knees - the signs are not good. The target is being met, but on the current trajectory it will be missed by the end of the year. The weather may be mild, but winter has come early for the NHS.
    Sounds like the NHS isn't able to cope with the immigration avalanche.As predicted.
    We need some prominent politician to level with the population of this country and explain that what we've come to expect of the NHS just isn't going to be affordable in the future.

    It will be interesting to see what hard choices are made, and how the politicians decide the NHS-funded priorities.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited 2015 12
    @JosiasJessop
    Did he say it was 'ok' in business class seats, or at least bearable?

    An ex-colleague of mine worked in the IT side of a company, and he had periodic episodes of extremely bad back pain. During which time he could stand and walk about, but not sit for long periods. It led to him pacing around at the back of the rooms during meetings when it was bad.

    Backs are weird. In fact, they're just like Labour supporters. ;)


    That description is so familiar you could easily be talking about me.
    Not just generally but today and indeed right now.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,354
    Anyone coming to the new thread? its getting lonely.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819

    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    And ruining the NHS

    On almost every measure, the NHS in England is in a worse position than this time last year.
    And as we enter winter, that spells bad news: last year's was the worst for a generation with A&E waits hitting their highest levels since targets were introduced in 2004.......
    Were you aware that in Labour run NHS Wales their A&E performance is even worse? So if you are so upset over NHS England you must be mortified over Labour's NHS Wales. Labour have been running NHS Wales since 1997, 18 years and its worse than NHS England.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    RobD said:

    The IndependentVerified account ‏@Independent 23h23 hours ago
    Simon Danczuk tweets during two-minute silence after criticising Jeremy Corbyn’s bowing

    Goodness, the lefties really are going for him in force, aren't you? Perhaps you'd be better concentrating your fire on the government rather than one of your own.

    Except in your mind, he isn't 'one of your own' now, is he?
    Correct
    Meanwhile Tory Scum continue feasting on babies and stealing from the poor unabated. Thanks :D
    You missed out sentencing for rape by strap on dykes.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    perdix said:

    antifrank said:

    In which EU ideas, pushed through at great political cost, crash on the shores of reality:

    https://t.co/l4FspHhfh5

    "European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker chided leaders for their slow take-up of previously agreed plans to spread the refugee burden more equally.

    Mr Juncker said he was “not happy at all” with the implementation of the EU’s flagship relocation policy, in which 160,000 people will be shared out among member states. So far, only 147 have been relocated. “If we continue at this rate, we will there by [the year] 2101,” Mr Juncker complained."

    I can't see that particular volley causing the governments in central and eastern Europe to fret unduly.

    Meanwhile, Turkey is to be paid to be enlisted into the drive to reduce migrant numbers.

    Were these plans actually agreed? Merkel makes a giant unilateral error but expects everyone to help solve her problem (now everyone's problem).. The problem with the EU is that the solution to an undesirable situation is another undesirable situation.

    Apparently so. And the UK was expected to stump up £400 million towards it.
    Will the EU collapse soon due to its inherent anomalies and contradictions; or will it need a vital push from the Leavers/Outers in the UK referendum to see it tumble into oblivion?
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819

    Simon Danczuk paid his now estranged wife 621 hours overtime while she worked in his office from 2010 to 2015 - the most any MP claimed for a partner!!

    "worked in his office ay"" ii gnarff
    Finbarr lucky man Saunders
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Simon Danczuk ‏@SimonDanczuk Nov 11
    Went for a run this morning

    Back clearly better now China economy class trip cancelled

    I'm not a doctor (well, not that kind), but is it possible to have a condition that is aggravated by sitting for prolonged periods, but not by running?
    OK in business class seats and running 10k though apparently.
    Because you can lie down. That didn't answer my question either.
    PB Tories defending Danczuk answers mine though.
    Lol okay. If any medical expert is in a position to chime in, would be most grateful.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    MikeK said:

    perdix said:

    antifrank said:

    In which EU ideas, pushed through at great political cost, crash on the shores of reality:

    https://t.co/l4FspHhfh5

    "European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker chided leaders for their slow take-up of previously agreed plans to spread the refugee burden more equally.

    Mr Juncker said he was “not happy at all” with the implementation of the EU’s flagship relocation policy, in which 160,000 people will be shared out among member states. So far, only 147 have been relocated. “If we continue at this rate, we will there by [the year] 2101,” Mr Juncker complained."

    I can't see that particular volley causing the governments in central and eastern Europe to fret unduly.

    Meanwhile, Turkey is to be paid to be enlisted into the drive to reduce migrant numbers.

    Were these plans actually agreed? Merkel makes a giant unilateral error but expects everyone to help solve her problem (now everyone's problem).. The problem with the EU is that the solution to an undesirable situation is another undesirable situation.

    Apparently so. And the UK was expected to stump up £400 million towards it.
    Will the EU collapse soon due to its inherent anomalies and contradictions; or will it need a vital push from the Leavers/Outers in the UK referendum to see it tumble into oblivion?
    My bets are mainly based on the assumption that whatever the "winner" at the referendum the UK will turn against the europhiles over the EC mess sometime in the next 3 years.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    I had an appointment at my local outpatients today. No sign of hordes of waiting patients anywhere.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233
    New thread?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,240
    GeoffM said:

    @JosiasJessop
    Did he say it was 'ok' in business class seats, or at least bearable?

    An ex-colleague of mine worked in the IT side of a company, and he had periodic episodes of extremely bad back pain. During which time he could stand and walk about, but not sit for long periods. It led to him pacing around at the back of the rooms during meetings when it was bad.

    Backs are weird. In fact, they're just like Labour supporters. ;)


    That description is so familiar you could easily be talking about me.
    Not just generally but today and indeed right now.

    What, a weird Labour supporter? ;)
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    chestnut said:

    I had an appointment at my local outpatients today. No sign of hordes of waiting patients anywhere.

    If the BBC is as accurate in reporting most things as it is with global warming then it is totally unreliable.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,739

    surbiton said:


    The same "power" could also help Europe do the same rather than constantly moaning !

    So you are suggesting we should invade Europe, lay siege to their cities, execute any trouble makers and then make them all learn English. Oh and then chop off Spain and Portugal and evict any Catholics from Northern Europe and make them walk to the newly formed Catholic country. After which we pull out and write letters to the Times about how ungrateful the newly independent Europeans are.

    It's a thought I suppose but I am not sure the Germans would go for it.
    Well, you* Brits chopped up Ireland!

    *I mean "we", sorry - oops! :lol:
    Both sides of my family are Irish so I think it is 'you' Brits.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,046

    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    AndyJS said:

    Oil price in freefall. Now down to $44.82.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/energy

    Something to do with Chinese steel?...

    On balance this should help us with inflation, but be bad news as far as government revenues are concerned. Not terribly good news for an independent Scotland. Correct my maths but 44 is a lot less than 150.
    Good news overall for the UK, terrible news for Canada and some other places. Would have been an unmitigated disaster for an independent Scotland.
    A disaster like that currently seen in Norway with waves of Norwegian refugees flooding into Sweden to escape the bankrupt, broken economy of their homeland?
    Doesn't Norway have a pretty large piggy bank?
    So basically rUK owes Scotland around £700bn.
    Depends when you want to take the start date from, Mr. Dair, I am sure that another set of figures would show that Scotland does, when taking compound interest into account, owe England three gazillion pounds. However, you and I may not like it but your compatriots expressed preference, Scotland remains part of the UK. So who gives a shit about such silly made up figures.

    Perhaps, as I suggested to one James Kelly on this site long ago, you should concentrate more on persuading your fellow Scots of the rightness of your cause rather than arguing with Englishmen. Mr. Kelly, of course, told me I was a fool and worse but his team didn't get the result they wanted at the referendum.
    As one would expect, Wings has explored that aspect:

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-historical-debt/
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233
    edited 2015 12
    sarissa said:

    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    AndyJS said:

    Oil price in freefall. Now down to $44.82.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/energy

    Something to do with Chinese steel?...

    On balance this should help us with inflation, but be bad news as far as government revenues are concerned. Not terribly good news for an independent Scotland. Correct my maths but 44 is a lot less than 150.
    Good news overall for the UK, terrible news for Canada and some other places. Would have been an unmitigated disaster for an independent Scotland.
    A disaster like that currently seen in Norway with waves of Norwegian refugees flooding into Sweden to escape the bankrupt, broken economy of their homeland?
    Doesn't Norway have a pretty large piggy bank?
    So basically rUK owes Scotland around £700bn.
    Depends when you want to take the start date from, Mr. Dair, I am sure that another set of figures would show that Scotland does, when taking compound interest into account, owe England three gazillion pounds. However, you and I may not like it but your compatriots expressed preference, Scotland remains part of the UK. So who gives a shit about such silly made up figures.

    Perhaps, as I suggested to one James Kelly on this site long ago, you should concentrate more on persuading your fellow Scots of the rightness of your cause rather than arguing with Englishmen. Mr. Kelly, of course, told me I was a fool and worse but his team didn't get the result they wanted at the referendum.
    As one would expect, Wings has explored that aspect:

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-historical-debt/
    No mention of the Darien bailout :p
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