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  • RodCrosby said:

    Off-topic 2:

    Today's Google Doodle (sadly US only, I think) celebrates Heddy Lamarr, a Holywood actress and beauty who developed (and co-patented) a technology that helped us win the war, and we all use today in our mobile phones.

    http://www.google.com/doodles/hedy-lamarrs-101st-birthday

    The doodle itself is quite beautiful and worth a watch.

    She was rather lovely in Ekstase.

    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.
    And which man was that?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    RodCrosby said:

    Off-topic 2:

    Today's Google Doodle (sadly US only, I think) celebrates Heddy Lamarr, a Holywood actress and beauty who developed (and co-patented) a technology that helped us win the war, and we all use today in our mobile phones.

    http://www.google.com/doodles/hedy-lamarrs-101st-birthday

    The doodle itself is quite beautiful and worth a watch.

    She was rather lovely in Ekstase.

    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.
    Hedley Lamarr? What a guy. ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBmkyDTX08Y
  • State sponsored doping ain't what it used to be eh? massive programme of doping and all you can manage is a 50KM race walk (ok a few others too :) ). Maybe other states are just better at it?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Don't forget the FBN/WSJ GOP debate tomorrow at 7 and 9pm eastern
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    edited November 2015
    kle4 said:

    Off topic, I watched the first three Bourne movies today. They were incredibly...mediocre. These movies revolutionized the modern action film?

    I don't think they did.

    Run Lola Run probably did that and Liman stole HUGE swathes of action scenes from Run Lola Run for the Bourne Identity.

    To be honest I don't think the action film has been re-invented. It exists and always has. It has numerous styles and the Run Lola Run/Bourne Identity jump cut fights are just a new variation on an old theme.

    Out of interest, the best Bourne film isn't a Bourne film, it's Hanna.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Portuguese confidence motion to be held tomorrow:

    "Germany loses key ally in Portugal as austerity regime crumbles

    'We don’t have a coup here: we have democracy. Whoever lacks the votes in the national assembly cannot govern,' says the leader of the Left Bloc"


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11984597/Germany-loses-key-ally-in-Portugal-as-austerity-regime-crumbles.html
  • Dair said:

    kle4 said:

    Off topic, I watched the first three Bourne movies today. They were incredibly...mediocre. These movies revolutionized the modern action film?

    I don't think they did.

    Run Lola Run probably did that and Liman stole HUGE swathes of action scenes from Run Lola Run for the Bourne Identity.

    To be honest I don't think the action film has been re-invented. It exists and always has. It has numerous styles and the Run Lola Run/Bourne Identity jump cut fights are just a new variation on an old theme.

    Out of interest, the best Bourne film isn't a Bourne film, it's Hanna.
    "Get some rest, Dair - you look tired!"

    [cue Moby's "Extreme Ways"] :)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2015
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Tim_B said:

    isam said:

    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Off topic random thought

    Has there ever been a TV show or film about a gay couple as the protagonists where the fact they are gay, and their struggle for acceptance etc, is not mentioned or important to the plot at all?

    Edit: this came to me after reading the sky+ blurb for London Spy, which doesn't mention that the couple are two men! How bizarre! I have the answer to my question

    There's is a part of me that wants to say "Rosemary & Thyme", but...probably not. The 1970's film "Thunderbolt & Lightfoot" makes more sense if you assume that George Kennedy, Clint Eastwood and Jeff Bridges are gay, than if you assume they're straight. The problem with answering this question is: if it isn't mentioned nor important to the plot, then unless it specifically says so in the publicity, the couple is assumed to be straight friends..sometimes vehemently. If you're willing to accept Omar as the protagonist of "The Wire" instead of the antihero, then that could count.
    The two fellows in London Spy were more than friends that's for sure
    Morecambe and Wise were often shown in bed together.
    But Eric would always be smoking his Luton colored pipe which would obviously preclude any nefarious activity.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Daz9fFrL-Y

    Contains the best one liner ever.....
    Where is the good one liner? this is like every other Morecambe and Wise Sketch - utterly without jokes or humour. The thing I really don't get is why people in England remember them. Not a joke, not a laugh, maybe it's shared hysteria like Diana where a whole country went apeshit over her unfortunate death with Dodi's cock down her gullet.

    someone, please explain how Morcambe and Wise were ever funny.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    RodCrosby said:

    Off-topic 2:

    Today's Google Doodle (sadly US only, I think) celebrates Heddy Lamarr, a Holywood actress and beauty who developed (and co-patented) a technology that helped us win the war, and we all use today in our mobile phones.

    http://www.google.com/doodles/hedy-lamarrs-101st-birthday

    The doodle itself is quite beautiful and worth a watch.

    She was rather lovely in Ekstase.

    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.
    And which man was that?
    It's just typical misogyny from RobCrosby. In his mind a woman can't invent something, it has to be her male friend that does it. Utterly disgusting and pathetic but, meh, this is PB.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    State sponsored doping ain't what it used to be eh? massive programme of doping and all you can manage is a 50KM race walk (ok a few others too :) ). Maybe other states are just better at it?

    It is kind of strange. Russia gets done over athletics but we still haven't seen the US Swimming programme (and all the others including the UK) exposed.

    What is it with Swimming that you get 20 gold medals per person per Olympics with totally improbably physiques and the sport still gets away with it.
  • Dair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Off-topic 2:

    Today's Google Doodle (sadly US only, I think) celebrates Heddy Lamarr, a Holywood actress and beauty who developed (and co-patented) a technology that helped us win the war, and we all use today in our mobile phones.

    http://www.google.com/doodles/hedy-lamarrs-101st-birthday

    The doodle itself is quite beautiful and worth a watch.

    She was rather lovely in Ekstase.

    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.
    And which man was that?
    It's just typical misogyny from RobCrosby. In his mind a woman can't invent something, it has to be her male friend that does it. Utterly disgusting and pathetic but, meh, this is PB.
    Her name is on the patent, along with George Antheil - no evidence they were "involved":
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr#/media/File:Lamarr_patent.png
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Neither George Pataki nor Jim Gilmore have filed papers for the Arkansas or Alabama primaries.

    Looks like the field will be thinning out soon.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Off-topic 2:

    Today's Google Doodle (sadly US only, I think) celebrates Heddy Lamarr, a Holywood actress and beauty who developed (and co-patented) a technology that helped us win the war, and we all use today in our mobile phones.

    http://www.google.com/doodles/hedy-lamarrs-101st-birthday

    The doodle itself is quite beautiful and worth a watch.

    She was rather lovely in Ekstase.

    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.
    And which man was that?
    It's just typical misogyny from RobCrosby. In his mind a woman can't invent something, it has to be her male friend that does it. Utterly disgusting and pathetic but, meh, this is PB.
    Her name is on the patent, along with George Antheil - no evidence they were "involved":
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr#/media/File:Lamarr_patent.png
    I wasn't replying to your post, I was replying to RobCrosby's misogyny.

    He said
    As for the other stuff. Yawn. She may have been involved with a man who had something to do with it.,

    I think that's pretty sick. And not sick in a good way.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790

    From 2 threads ago - on the subject of expenses:

    My company doesn't let us claim for lunch, but we can claim for a drink. A colleague tried to claim a cup of soup as a drink - it was refused as soup is classed as food. #cupasoupgate

    Incorrect. Soup is liquid, and is therefore, by definition, a drink. Some types of soup may sometimes have bits of food in them, but they are the bits rather than the soup. The company concerned is obviously run by ultra-mad deviants who are trying to trying to force everybody to kill everybody with blocks of concrete.

  • JohnLoony said:

    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
    was G.Brown missing? or just out of shot on all of the pictures?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    JohnLoony said:

    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
    was G.Brown missing? or just out of shot on all of the pictures?
    Nah, he was there. Why does he always look a weirdo in photos.

    https://www.google.nl/search?q=prime+ministers+at+cenotaph+2015&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB624GB624&hl=en-GB&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMImsCoyf6EyQIVQT0UCh05Mws5#imgrc=XE2uz92K9TfbPM:
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    kle4 said:

    Off topic, I watched the first three Bourne movies today. They were incredibly...mediocre. These movies revolutionized the modern action film?

    They are very good films because they have got Matt Damon in them.

    Come to think of it, I watched them quite a lot of times several years ago but i haven't watched them for a while. The fact that Matt Damon is older than he used to be, and therefore not quite as gorgeous, is completely coincidental. Or not.

  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited November 2015

    JohnLoony said:

    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
    was G.Brown missing? or just out of shot on all of the pictures?
    Nah, he was there. Why does he always look weird in photos?

    http://tinyurl.com/pqzpfvd

    Edit - Repost due to incorrect URL.
  • Moses_ said:

    JohnLoony said:

    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
    was G.Brown missing? or just out of shot on all of the pictures?
    Nah, he was there. Why does he always look weird in photos?

    http://tinyurl.com/pqzpfvd

    Edit - Repost due to incorrect URL.
    poor lad had to stand next to Toni on one side and Osborne on the other, should perhaps have tried to avoid the "cow licking piss off a thistle" expression

  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sharm security sham

    Last night, Cambridge University physicist Michael Sutherland, an expert witness in the trials involving golf ball finders sold as bomb detectors, said the C-Fast 'appears to be nearly identical' to the devices discredited in the UK.

    He said the patent made 'outrageous claims … not backed up by any creditable scientific research', adding: 'It is quite simply a fraud, and a dangerous one … They would have as much luck searching for explosives using a kebab'.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3311097/Fake-bomb-detectors-used-protect-Sharm-Britons-Gadgets-similar-novelty-golf-ball-finders-UK-fraud-trials-used-check-luggage-resort-s-hotels.html#ixzz3r3mCF2YP
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    JohnLoony said:

    (From Previous Thread)

    Off topic, I've just walked through Waterloo to catch my usual train home. I spotted two women wearing full-length black niqabs - in fact, they may have been burqas.

    I only caught one of the ladies out of the corner of my eye as I was coming off the escalator. I confess, I jumped. Another (different family) young child was cowering behind his mother at the sight.

    I don't have a problem with women choosing to wear a hijab. But there seems to me to be something fundamentally inhuman about obscuring your face (yes, I include balaclavas) in public, and most of your body, so you appear like a levitating black tent drifting around the concourse.

    These really do seem to scare children, not to mention me.

    Edit: I am aware in certain circles that this post probably requires me to attend some diversity training, but still - what sort of religious interpretation is it that requires women to go way behind modesty and obscure all traces of their humanity and identity in public? And should we accept this?

    Your reaction is peculiar. I quite often see women in full-body covering (niqab or whatever it's called) in Croydon in the town centre or the shops. I hardly even bat an eyelid. If I bat so much as an eyelid, it's only because the sight of such women reminds me of the fact that there are a minority of peculiar people for whom the choice of such clothing seems to be a problem.

    Sorry, I have just actually looked at the picture at the top of this thread. Was that taken at yesterday's Cenotaph ceremony? If so what in God's name was Blair doing there?

    He was being a former prime minister, in the same way that all former prime ministers have always attended the service at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday for as long as I can remember.
    There is nothing peculiar about having a problem with such a deeply offensive symbol of women's subjugation. The increasing wearing of the niqab is evidence of Labour's huge failures of immigration and integration: I am sure every woman that wears it either has seriously intolerant social views, or her husband/father does. It is also an example of the cowardice of the politicians and the media. I have often seen articles around people (rightly) criticising cat calling in the BBC, for example, but never an opinion piece on the perceived requirement by some that women should be heard but not seen.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656


    I think the point has been made very well downthread that it's not a case of banning it for the sake of personal offence, but because it represents female repression and accentuates their isolation in our society. It's a divisive cultural cancer that's feeding off a warped and extreme interpretation of the worst form of religious bigotry. It crosses a line.

    I find the ability of conservatives to draw a moral equivalence between this, wearing business ties and sporting eyebrow piercings - with a straight face - to be astonishing.

    The point has been made but it's a bogus one. What you are saying is that you think it 'represents female repression' and that this is unacceptable. Why do you assume that? It is patronising in the extreme. Basically, it's none of your business what the lady chooses to wear. I'm staggered that anyone who claims to be a conservative thinks it is.
    Is it patronising to criticise the wearing of a Klu Klux Klan outfit as a symbol of religious identity? A woman wearing a niqab has either been forced to wear it by other family members or has willingly bought into a terrible authoritarian belief system. I do not know which is worse.
  • JEO said:

    has willingly bought into a terrible authoritarian belief system

    hmmm
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Oh dear me......

    Shatner 'Trying' To Make Star Trek Musical
    The actor who played Captain Kirk in the 1966 television series says he is trying to gain support for a 50th anniversary musical.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1584595/shatner-trying-to-make-star-trek-musical
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,687
    AndyJS said:

    Portuguese confidence motion to be held tomorrow:

    "Germany loses key ally in Portugal as austerity regime crumbles

    'We don’t have a coup here: we have democracy. Whoever lacks the votes in the national assembly cannot govern,' says the leader of the Left Bloc"


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11984597/Germany-loses-key-ally-in-Portugal-as-austerity-regime-crumbles.html

    It's been on the cards for about a month, when the previously ruling party - which topped the polls - attempted to stay in power. (Hence the excitable Telegraph article about there having been a coup in Portugal.)

    That being said, I would be very surprised if the new three party Leftist coalition will manage to stay in power long: there are very wide disagreements (NATO good! NATO an evil cold war body, etc.)

    New Portuguese elections by June I'd reckon, which will likely result in another mess. The danger for the second placed PS is that if they don't rule out a coalition with the Communist CDU they are likely to haemorrhage moderate votes to PaF. On the other hand, if they do rule one out, then their more left wing supporters will go to BE or PaF.

    As an aside, one thing that has not yet received enough attention is that there are a large number of places in Europe where there could be no workable coalition post the next set of elections. Take Germany: CDU/CSU + AfD + FDP is around 50%, and Der Linke + Greens + SPD is a little below. And could the FDP and the AfD serve together? And CDU/CSU + FDP is far from enough. Der Linke and AfD share some European views, but not much else. Another grand coalition there?

    It's a similar story in Ireland, where there are four parties with substantial shares, plus a number of independents. Likewise the Netherlands.

    The only place where it increasingly doesn't seem true is Spain, where the Centre Right Citizen's Party is now well ahead of Podemos and has even been ahead of the Socialists in three of the last 10 polls. Spain looks almost certain to have a PP + Citizen's coalition post elections.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited November 2015
    Roger said:

    Cyclefree

    "I'm now a tad worried about all the Warfarin discussion. For reasons too boring to elaborate on, I have had to take this medecine from time to time. Apparently it can also cause osteoporosis."

    It's a rat killer. The smart people with arrhythmia take Apixaban

    In the ARISTOTLE trial Apixaban did seem the better drug, with fewer strokes or haemorrhages. There are other indications for anticoagulation though, and perhaps this one is more relevant:

    http://www.thennt.com/nnt/anticoagulation-for-venous-thromboembolism/

    The website has nnt's calculated for a lot of common interventions, a sort of Medical bookmakers odds for the ultimate gamble.

    Interesting for hyperchondriacs and theraputic nihilists alike. I am closer to the latter!

    *be careful with "evidence based medicine" though, there are many traps for the unwary. In particular many interventions do not have gold-standard evidence, but this does not mean that they do not work!
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    edited November 2015
    Mr rcs,

    How will the Brits up and leave for those places you mention, they have far stricter immigration criteria than us
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