Doesn't the speaker take over in that situation? If they can of course. No doubt there would be a unity government as politics are placed to one side. Well there would have been but of course Corbyn is now LOTO.
A foreign nation declares war on the UK by launching a missile that takes out Parliament during the state opening of Parliament. The monarch, Lords and Commons are all killed. We're now at war with no politicians and no monarch, who takes over?
We always have a Monarch, and there is already in place a clear line of succession.
At a guess elections would be called quickly, with the Monarch, Civil Service and Top Brass running things until a new Government is formed.
We always have a monarch, so they'd be able to rule by royal prerogative and order in council.
More specifically, the civil contingencies act 2004 would apply.
Section 20: "Her Majesty may by Order in Council make emergency regulations if satisfied that the conditions in section 21 are satisfied"
(section 21 defines what's an emergency)
And they can cover pretty much anything:
"Emergency regulations may make any provision which the person making the regulations is satisfied is appropriate for the purpose of preventing, controlling or mitigating an aspect or effect of the emergency in respect of which the regulations are made."
"Emergency regulations may make provision of any kind that could be made by Act of Parliament or by the exercise of the Royal Prerogative"
It goes into a fair bit of detail about what sort of powers you get:
TUD Nobody said it couldn't happen but it wouldn't happen twice..
Yeah, that's right. A missile taking out Westminster incl. the monarch, Lords and Commons is pretty much the definition of a one-off event, unless you think the twin towers can be hit again?
It's only hilarious if you think that UKIP supporters are swivel eyed racist little Englanders. UKIP supporters are in favour of a merit-based immigration system rather than the current European racist one.
Was not this the Thai woman that the kipper Atkinson made the ting tong remark about? I did not think they were in UKIP any more.
Yes, because one remark by a UKIP member tarnishes the entire UKIP brand. Of course, how proportionate.
There has been more than one remark, from various kippers. But my suggestion was he was not in UKIP anymore. The other point about a ukip supporter emigrating to the country of his foreign born wife is also an interesting one.
I'm afraid an underlying point is that quite a few people think that it'd be fine to be run by the Armed Forces - they'd sort stuff out, get rid of those corrupt politicians, etc. It closely mirrors an American poll last month - from memory, that said 25% would support a military coup, rising to 41% if the President was attempting to change the Constitution.
Greece tried it for a while, of course. After a few years, people grumbled increasingly about the corrupt, useless generals, in exactly the same way as they had before about the politicians, and in the end the generals threw up their hands and gave up voluntarily. That's why there was never serious discussion of a coup during the recent travails there - people had been there, got the T-shirt, and didn't fancy a revisit.
It's also an example of the caution to be applied to surveys of hypothetical situations which people haven't really thought about - Would you like to be governed by President Xi? Would you agree to travel on a one-way trip to Mars? Would you go and live in North Korea for £1 million? I bet you'd get people saying yes to all of those.
TUD Great answer .. except it does not address the problem .. what would you do..assuming of course that some rogue state is insane enough to try that route..thus far the deterrent seems to be working..
Swiss results coming in - gains by the centre-right FDP and the anti-immigrant SVP, mostly at the expense of the centrist "green liberal" party. These often just reverse the gains made by the green liberals at their expense last time round so shouldn't be exaggerated, but refugees topped the list of issues in Swiss polls and it does reflect that. The socialists seem broadly unchanged so far, slightly up in cities and slightly down outside.
So if BoJo becomes PM then 5% of people (22% x 25%) would support an armed forces coup? This is less than I might have expected given the recent vitriol directed at the Tories. And, in any case, how do you support an armed coup - is there a Twittergun I don't know about?
"The President is dead--and the weight, literally, of the world falls on Jack Ryan's shoulders, in Tom Clancy's newest and most extraordinary novel."
If the weight of the world literally fell on Jack Ryan's shoulders, I imagine it would be a fairly short book.
That book's where Clancy started jumping the shark with the Jack Ryan world IMO. Having him as president stopped Ryan being an everyman character, and also reduced the amount of storylines he could have action in. Hence the reliance on Jack Ryan Jr and Clark in later stories. Although perhaps Ryan Snr was getting to the age where he could legitimately be played by Harrison Ford.
"44% of Ukip voters tell YouGov that they can envisage situations when they'd support armed forces coup in UK"
Could any UKIPer out there please come and defend your barking supporters......
You are purely puerile, Roger. Unfortunately Britain doesn't have an army that could mount a coup against Surry Council, let alone the British government.
Swiss results coming in - gains by the centre-right FDP and the anti-immigrant SVP, mostly at the expense of the centrist "green liberal" party. These often just reverse the gains made by the green liberals at their expense last time round so shouldn't be exaggerated, but refugees topped the list of issues in Swiss polls and it does reflect that. The socialists seem broadly unchanged so far, slightly up in cities and slightly down outside.
Do you have a link to the incoming results page? Thanks in advance.
I find it totes amazeballs that a poll like was needed to be/was commissioned.
I find the results of this poll equally totes amazeballs.
But the Ireland v Argentina rugby is even more totes amazeballs.
Over you to Scotland to stop an all Southern Hemisphere semis.
You do realise who Scotland are playing?? Make no mistake - I hope Scotland win. It will be hilarious to watch the Aussie reaction. But do we expect Scotland to be able to score a try?
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Aussies put 50 points on them.
14 point handicap is a joke. Scotland haven't played anyone decent bar Saffers who pounded them.
Ha Ha Ha , usual toom tabard pretendy Scot and a nasty Tory
Aussie stand off having a nightmare. Having pointed out the Aussie defensive strength, they have given away 2 shocking tries. Win lose or draw the Aussie recriminations will be wonderful to behold.
Swiss results coming in - gains by the centre-right FDP and the anti-immigrant SVP, mostly at the expense of the centrist "green liberal" party. These often just reverse the gains made by the green liberals at their expense last time round so shouldn't be exaggerated, but refugees topped the list of issues in Swiss polls and it does reflect that. The socialists seem broadly unchanged so far, slightly up in cities and slightly down outside.
Kudos for trying to get interest in the Swiss election in the middle of a RWC quarter final
Out of the last three, surely Sir John Major would be the natural choice if an emergency PM was required....
In current circumstances, yes. Had Labour a majority then Blair would be a better choice.
Major is probably more popular among Labour supporters
That may well be true but I think the authorities would try to keep some kind of democratic mandate in the appointment. In this kind of scenario, the parties would be leaderless too.
Mr. kle4, my thoughts exactly. Scotland played tremendously well. It was the only quarter final I thought would be a walkover (for Australia) and they deserved to win it.
Mr. kle4, my thoughts exactly. Scotland played tremendously well. It was the only quarter final I thought would be a walkover (for Australia) and they deserved to win it.
Australia kicked terribly and gifted at least two of the Scottish tries so for that they deserved to lose it. But they still scored 5 tries themselves. In other words the opposite of what I predicted. And ironic that a goal kick gave it to Australia in the end. And a dubious penalty!! The other thing which was unlucky for Scotland was the sin binning for a deliberate knock on. Terrible rule.
@JosiasJessop OT Ages ago we discussed magicians and you recommended a docu about Randi - just seen it and it's FAB.
I love illusionists and Randi is my kinda guy. I've seen some stunning performers in Vegas and just wish I had the personality to be hypnotised/duped. I don't, so just have to see others seduced by it. I did see a stage hypo man who failed epically on America's Got Talent - he did a great job on his first appearance with a germophobe judge - then failed totally with other panellists and walked off.
Derren Brown can't be beaten IMO. A genuine talent.
Too many questionable decisions. Probably not bought, probably RFU wanting Australia to stay in their failing tournament.
Know how you are feeling.
I still haven't got over the bent ref at Chelsea when Barcelona knocked us out of the CL. Still think it was a Platini/EUFA conspiracy as they didn't want two English teams in the final at Wembley.
I cannot remember a weekend of similar sporting drama from any other tournament in any sport. Four classic matches, one sublime masterclass from the All Blacks.
Your avvin a laff. But RU is not my favourite sport, so I'm biased. If you knew anything you would see that the game has changed almost beyond recognition to be much more RL like (albeit c1968) since the rules on rucks and mauls were changed. This itself was as a result of the competition from RL in the southern hemisphere.
Sorry to see Scotland lose today. It was their best performance for years. Still trying to work out how the Aussie who charged the Scots full back was still on the pitch at the end.
Scotland were robbed by a silly decision just as England were robbed at the cricket yesterday by a silly decision on bad light when the flood lights were on, there were 8 overs left and only 25 runs needed.
As for the 44% of UKIP voters who can imagine a coup, maybe they are wishfully thinking of the right wing dictatorships in Portugal*, Spain and Greece in 1950 - 1970s era; or maybe remembering Rhodesia.....
* yes I know the military overthrew the dictatorship in 1974 so the coup in Portugal military in a good way which is why I used the word dictatorship
Ali Macdonald @Ali_Macdonald 4m4 minutes ago @policescotland I'd like to report a crime please, I've just witnessed a South African rob 15 Scots at Twickenham. #Joubert #RWC
As for the 44% of UKIP voters who can imagine a coup, maybe they are wishfully thinking of the right wing dictatorships in Portugal*, Spain and Greece in 1950 - 1970s era; or maybe remembering Rhodesia.....
* yes I know the military overthrew the dictatorship in 1974 so the coup in Portugal military in a good way which is why I used the word dictatorship
Those were the good old days.
I note most Tories would support armed intervention if the UK became a Republic.
The subjectivity in applying the laws is a big flaw in rugby union. The identity of the ref is too important. South Africans always have it in for the Brits. The ref in the 2003 final tried very hard to give the game to the Australians.
From memory there are something like 20,000 registered rugby players in Scotland, so to put in a performance like that was truly magnificent. Maybe it will provide a shot in the arm to the game in the Borders. That would be fantastic as it was so recently one of the world's great rugby areas.
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More specifically, the civil contingencies act 2004 would apply.
Section 20:
"Her Majesty may by Order in Council make emergency regulations if satisfied that the conditions in section 21 are satisfied"
(section 21 defines what's an emergency)
And they can cover pretty much anything:
"Emergency regulations may make any provision which the person making the regulations is satisfied is appropriate for the purpose of preventing, controlling or mitigating an aspect or effect of the emergency in respect of which the regulations are made."
"Emergency regulations may make provision of any kind that could be made by Act of Parliament or by the exercise of the Royal Prerogative"
It goes into a fair bit of detail about what sort of powers you get:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/36/section/22
Greece tried it for a while, of course. After a few years, people grumbled increasingly about the corrupt, useless generals, in exactly the same way as they had before about the politicians, and in the end the generals threw up their hands and gave up voluntarily. That's why there was never serious discussion of a coup during the recent travails there - people had been there, got the T-shirt, and didn't fancy a revisit.
It's also an example of the caution to be applied to surveys of hypothetical situations which people haven't really thought about - Would you like to be governed by President Xi? Would you agree to travel on a one-way trip to Mars? Would you go and live in North Korea for £1 million? I bet you'd get people saying yes to all of those.
That is all.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-understand-public-sector-spending/how-to-understand-public-sector-spending
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Scotland have a decent performance once every 25 years, and were due one.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/europe
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Mr. kle4, my thoughts exactly. Scotland played tremendously well. It was the only quarter final I thought would be a walkover (for Australia) and they deserved to win it.
Tough for Scotland, but they can go out proud.
Unlike England.
Too many questionable decisions. Probably not bought, probably RFU wanting Australia to stay in their failing tournament.
NZ vs South Africa probably decides the winner.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/a-failure-of-briefing/
Just says "lies" rather than get into TME......
The other thing which was unlucky for Scotland was the sin binning for a deliberate knock on. Terrible rule.
Nigel Owens is a cut above the other refs.
Not sure I agree.
Guess what happened in 1929.
I love illusionists and Randi is my kinda guy. I've seen some stunning performers in Vegas and just wish I had the personality to be hypnotised/duped. I don't, so just have to see others seduced by it. I did see a stage hypo man who failed epically on America's Got Talent - he did a great job on his first appearance with a germophobe judge - then failed totally with other panellists and walked off.
Derren Brown can't be beaten IMO. A genuine talent.
I still haven't got over the bent ref at Chelsea when Barcelona knocked us out of the CL. Still think it was a Platini/EUFA conspiracy as they didn't want two English teams in the final at Wembley.
https://www.change.org/p/the-people-of-scotland-ban-craig-joubert-from-scotland-for-life?
The employer subsidy that tax credits have become are too expensive.
The mistake the Government makes is to think that they can cut them well before any rises in wages kick in.
I am even more in favour of getting rid of the triple lock on Pensions, should be linked to inflation, thats the maximum the country can afford.
As for the 44% of UKIP voters who can imagine a coup, maybe they are wishfully thinking of the right wing dictatorships in Portugal*, Spain and Greece in 1950 - 1970s era; or maybe remembering Rhodesia.....
* yes I know the military overthrew the dictatorship in 1974 so the coup in Portugal military in a good way which is why I used the word dictatorship
@policescotland I'd like to report a crime please, I've just witnessed a South African rob 15 Scots at Twickenham. #Joubert #RWC
Simply says "Fucking Bastard"
I note most Tories would support armed intervention if the UK became a Republic.
Still think its time to share the pain of benefit cuts with OAPs.
Then we will see how popular the Welfare State is or isn't
Its ridiculous to increase pensions by 2.5% in a period of deflation IMO
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11938920/MoD-under-fire-for-listing-retired-jets-and-grounded-helicopters-in-new-list-of-military-assets.html
The subjectivity in applying the laws is a big flaw in rugby union. The identity of the ref is too important. South Africans always have it in for the Brits. The ref in the 2003 final tried very hard to give the game to the Australians.
From memory there are something like 20,000 registered rugby players in Scotland, so to put in a performance like that was truly magnificent. Maybe it will provide a shot in the arm to the game in the Borders. That would be fantastic as it was so recently one of the world's great rugby areas.